Well I'm watching Forever Red and my wife is like who are these power Rangers. Then I have to go into who each one is and which series they are from. Yet at the end of it its only like 20 minutes long. I haven't seen the Japanese version of it but was it longer then 20 minutes. If it was I feel they so could of done a longer show at least two episodes. I mean I'm a hugh Ranger fan deep at heart and to Have Jason and Tommy on one episode working together again i feel they could of pulled a two parter. Just I love Forever red its just kinda disapointing.
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Keep in mind that PR had a WF/TF that year already. So with "Forever Red" that made three episodes dedicated to crossovers. Forever Red was just meant to celebrate PR's tenth anniversy for the cast, crew, and the long time fans. It was not meant to be more than a special event. Thats why you have to excuse the "how did they get their powers back" question. Forever Red was just supposed to be an entertaining episode, honoring the past. It wasnt made to explain every little detail and how it fit in canon. Sure it would have been nice to have a two parter. But I think its understandable that we got what we got. At one point, the idea of an episode like "Forever Red' was beleived to be impossible outside of fan fiction. I think "Forever Red" stands as a milestone int he series that will never be topped. It also acted as a finalie of sorts for MMPR Productions. |
Thanks for responding. Yeah I understand that. But It would of been nice it was only 20 minutes long though. Which gave little time for anything. Yes I'm glade its made and all but yeah wish it was a two parter. Now on the powers part. I beleave they could of been explaind easy with that Its a one shot deal. They just had enough power to transform once or twice more and that would of push the limits of what was left of the power. It was nice though seeing all the Rangers of the past even the Alien Ranger though he never powered down. But I did find the quote from jason funny. "I was doing all the work while he was kissing on Kimberly in the juicebar" or something like that. I found it rather funny.
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If you think about it the only question in terms of regaining powers is Jason and TJ. The zeo powers were never really lost. Some people argue that Jason still retained his powers after the "Power Transfer", with them only being copied to Rocky. Others think he got them back somehow. From what I heard, Amit wrote the team up as if the orginal team has gotten back together. As for TJ, well look at how Justin got his powers back from Mountain Blaster. The same could have happened with TJ and Red Lightning Cruiser. The Zeo Powers were never really lost so its not surprising Tommy had his Zeo Morpher. The reason why Aurico didn't demorph was because his orginal actor didn't come back. The same thing almost happened with Leo. But lucky Danny Slavin made a last minute deal to film some scenes unmorphed on blue screen. |
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As for your TJ & Justin, still wrong. The powers come from Eltar not Lightning Cruiser nor Storm Blaster, they merely gave TJ & Justin a conduit to access the powers. So LC & SB didn't give them back their powers. For them to give back the powers they would have to fix the power source on Eltar which clearly they can't do since they have no hands. It is Storm Blaster not Mountain Blaster. Mountain Blaster is a Zord not a sentient living vehicle. It's just plain Lightning Cruiser not Red Lightning Cruiser. |
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disapointed with forever red with the storie line they just wanted the ranger to morph and fight we wanted that to but good storie line needed.
serpenter was not a power full as expeced. expected them to call there zords and stuff good longer hour needed to storie line didnt add up just did make sences didnt mention zordons death infact they made something up but cant remember what they said |
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Yes the ending did feature all of their previous Red warriors. Yes, it certainly stands as a milestone in Power Rangers. Also you're right in regards to the questioning the powers but granted it was only Jason's power that needs questioning despite what Kamen Rider Black wants you to believe. Quote:
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I hadn't heard of that Alpha 7 scene previously but the rocky relationship between Jason and Tommy I believe had something to do with an internet Fanfic that made things awkward between the 2 of them. Quote:
Yes, that's correct with the zord battle but it was nixed because not enough of the suits were in good enough condition for filming so they were going to need to use CGI for it but CGI for 10 zords was too much for the budget. That's correct with the Dark Specter resurrection but I believe it was Koichi's idea that he wanted Amit to work these specific suits (the B-Fighter and B-Fighter Kabuto) suits into the story instead. That's partially incorrect with Steve, he had been reached but during the time he was moving, they attempted to reach him again but they didn't have the updated contact info. Quote:
In the case of Jason's powers, we'll never really know how he got his powers back but I don't believe in the clone theory. Not sure if when Amit wrote the episode, he actually intended the whole original team to be back or not, I wasn't aware of that information. In the case of the Turbo powers, the Siren Blaster provided Justin a spare Turbo Morpher. Lightning Cruiser likely did the same thing for T.J. provided he didn't get back up his old Morpher. Now despite what KDR (Kamen Decade Rider) would lead you to believe, Siren Blaster and Lightning Cruiser could be powerful enough to power at least Blue Turbo Ranger and Red Turbo Ranger respectively... since there would be no reason for them to act as a conduit for their powers. Eltar was indeed the source of the Turbo powers and once that fell, the Turbo Rangers lost their connection to them but that doesn't mean Justin and T.J. had to use their non-zord vehicles in order to power themselves. Yes, that's correct with David Bacon (Aurico) and Danny Slavin (Leo) but unsure if it's blue screen or green screen. I think they usually use green screen unless they can't for whatever reason but no biggie there. Quote:
The story itself wasn't a bad idea, it just wasn't executed properly. Fighting was pretty much all they could do in the length of one episode - bringing all Red Rangers together, fight and then destroy the episode's villains as well as Serpentera. Yea, it needed to be a longer episode - like an extra episode and it did need a zord battle considering how Serpentera was destroyed and all but it just wasn't something that they could deal with. Zordon's death had been mentioned in the original produced episode of "Forever Red" but I believe an ADR Director wasn't happy with how Christopher (Andros) had said it so they had him re-voice it and they had him say that he saved 2 worlds which isn't technically making up something, it's just not the whole truth since he saved the whole universe, just not 2 worlds. |
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To me Forever Red just like Once a Ranger is one of those episodes that everyone thinks could have been improved but at the same time not everyone can agree on what that would be.
For instance I think they should have made it a two parter, and gone with the original idea of bringing back Dark Specter but I also would have liked it if there were other villain besides the Machine Empire like Bansheera's demons, mutants from 3001, space pirates, etc. As for how everyone gets their powers back just have it where when the bad guys bring back Dark Specter it causes some flux in the balance of good and evil that brings back Zordon who gives the Red Rangers their powers back, and destroying Dark Specter again also destroys Zordon again at the end. |
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I agree, yes, it's like "Once a Ranger" where pretty much every single person thinks it could have been improved.
I agree with a 2-part episode but not with the Dark Specter resurrection attempt. He's dead, Zordon's dead, both characters should stay dead. They should've went with another route, like bringing back ones that they can explain away escaping the Z-wave. I mean you don't see the energy wave hitting villains such as Goldar, Scorpina, Rito, Master Vile, Gasket and Archerina for example so they should have went that route. It should be something that progresses the story rather than basically go back to 1998. It's why I wasn't entirely happy with their "Forever Red" idea since the villains were basically all new. Also that'd be an interesting idea, a Demonic Org that escapes from the future that embedded itself with Mutant DNA. Thing is, not everyone lost their powers. Only the Ninja Coins were truly destroyed, the Dino Coins were not. |
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See I always forget that since I know the ninja powers, and Turbo powers were destroyed but everyone else just retired.
And there were the Mutorgs from Reinforcements from the Future so it wouldn't be too much to say that one survived, and sold it's soul to Banshera or one of her minions. Actually now that I think about it it's been a long time since I saw Lightspeed Rescue did Jinxer ever die or get banished? If not he could be the one the Mutorg sold it's soul to, and in exchange it gathers the surviving villains of the previous seasons to help him destroy Earth. |
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What part do you always forget? The Ninja powers were destroyed but the Turbo powers weren't, their source was Eltar, once that fell, the powers were rendered useless for the time being.
Very true with the Mut-Orgs or there could be a hidden one that aligned itself with Bansheera or Jinxer. Last we saw of Jinxer was he went down with the Omega Megazord's destruction... as far as we know of since he was piloting it along with a few of his Batlings before the Rangers had no choice but to blow it up. Him escaping the destruction would be normal since how many times have the Rangers avoided the destruction of zords even when they logically should be right in the middle of the explosion? |
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