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Oh I see Matt. When Saban Fan and myself give Saban his just due you say Saban had nothing to do with creative. But now he did all of the sudden when it coes to Tommy?

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considering they were pretty much friends and I think I've heard stories where Haim actually invited him to his house that should tell you all you need to know. It wasn't even him who was treating JDF that way even the Producers did since JDF wanted to leave in Zeo but he was threatened to stay basically the threat was "if you leave then we're replacing the others" so a compromise was made where he would leave during Turbo.

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Tommy was still the start of the show. They wanted to keep him as long as they could. And lets not forget things were great ratings and toy sale wise during season 2. They wouldn't have made demoted JDF for season 3. Nor would he have gotten the blame for season 3's woes.

By the time Zeo finished things were low enough that the producers were more open for major changes. Not to mention the major behid the scences changes that happened in Turbo. Plus JDF wanted out anyway. And they already had gotten him to stay longer.

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Tommy was the reason for the ratings and toy sales going down. People finally wised up and realized what a bad character he was. People weren't mesmorized by the overrated Green Ranger Powers. If I was Saban I would have moved on from Tommy a lot earlier. Pay Austin St. John whatever he wanted to stay or come back as Jason earlier.

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that's different because you people claim that he has everything to do with the show including writing the show when he doesn't he has small things to do with it but generally nothing big unless it involved his bud.

exactly although the ratings weren't that good by the time of Zeo but yes Tommy was supposed to be "the star of the show."

he wasn't the reason for the ratings and sales declining what happens on the show has very little to do with the merchandise stuff the show was just declining in popularity as a show. Austin wanted the show to go union and it was something both he, Walter and Thuy wanted and if they agreed to their demands then they've needed to give them to JDF, Amy and David too since they would all have to be paid the same amount of money due to union rules.

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I do think the change over in Turbo helped to freshen things up for the targer audience. Which mostly have came in after the early seasons. But to say PR's decline was Tommy's doing doesn't seem right to me. Sometimes shows just grow cold quickly. Especially children's shows designed to sell toys. Really the MMPR bubble was going to burst after not to long in any case. Its amazing the shlw rebounded and has existed at the current level for so long.

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The planned Zyu3 footage would have been cool to see. But season 2 worked out. Even with the unexpected cast change.

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yea I agree the changeover in Turbo did help to freshen things up "flr" the targer (or rather target) audience and I also agree that it's wrong to say that Tommy or any character for that matter was responsible for the show's declining popularity since it wasn't always going to be popular regardless of whether they had Tommy on the show or not. I agree the MMPR bubble was going to burst sooner or later anyway and yes it is amazing that the show rebounded and has existed at the current level for so long not always a pleasant level mind you like Samurai and Megaforce for example but hey not every season can be a winner.

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Lol fixed the typo.

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Its an interesting what if. But I don't think they were just going to keep paying for more Zyu footage. Not when Toei was making new Sentais every year. And casts were alreay starting to have massive turnover. Saban Entertainment had to know cast changes were inevitable once the actors got too old. So it made ir more convient to go with the new Sentai Footage and change things up.