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King
08-06-2008, 11:28 PM
Do you think people big up the Mighty morphin power rangers to much? It seems that every time somebody makes a thread or poll asking who the best team is or who the most powerful team is MMPR always seems to come out on top or close to on top despite lack of the more advanced arsenal, vehicles, technology, battilizers, and power-ups of teams that came after them. And its not just with the rangers. People act like Zedd could own any villain out there as well. I remember when once a ranger came out people acted like it was a plot hole that the son of Zedd could get beat so easily as if Zedd was a badass fighter who could roll over any opponent that stood in front of him.

Green_With_Evil
08-06-2008, 11:45 PM
Zedd was a badass who could roll over any opponent that stood in front of him. As I recall, he whooped Tommy pretty well, and Tommy was an extraordinarily powerful Ranger.
It's true that other, later Rangers had extra equipment, extra powers, and the like... but the Rangers of MMPR did not need any of that to face and defeat evil. I believe that is the reason they come out on top most of the time in these polls. They relied on themselves and the most basic Ranger powers to fight evil, not battilizers or power-ups.

Hear All
08-06-2008, 11:46 PM
MMPR is so popular because it was the first show of its kind when it first premiered, it was something fresh and new, no one had even attempted this kind of TV show before.

Most people on this board (including me) have an emotional connection to MMPR. We grew up with the show and wanted everything with the logo on it (sleeping bags!).

DTGR
08-07-2008, 12:05 AM
MMPR was the start of it all. People tend to respect that fact and in my opinion, they are the best. Also, in my opinion again, it's not the Ranger power that makes the Ranger. It's the person using it that counts. You could give some the most power Ranger power ever, but if they don't know how to use it, what good is it? MMPR didn't have power ups (except Tommy's dragon shield could be transfered and metallic armour much later on). That's what made them great!

King
08-07-2008, 12:07 AM
I understand the popularity but should the show being the most popular make people act like they were the best team out as far as quality?

Zedd was a badass who could roll over any opponent that stood in front of him. As I recall, he whooped Tommy pretty well, and Tommy was an extraordinarily powerful Ranger.
It's true that other, later Rangers had extra equipment, extra powers, and the like... but the Rangers of MMPR did not need any of that to face and defeat evil. I believe that is the reason they come out on top most of the time in these polls. They relied on themselves and the most basic Ranger powers to fight evil, not battilizers or power-ups.

He whooped Tommy until Tommy decided to use a weapon. Seconds after Tommy armed himself Zedd retreated because his little staff got broke.

The rangers lost there powers twice, never defeated there enemy for good, and even had to have a whole other team come and replace them for a period of time so how do you figure that they didn't need extra equipment, powers, and all that other good stuff?

You could give some the most power Ranger power ever, but if they don't know how to use it, what good is it?

I don't know if you noticed or not, but when rangers morph for some reason they always know how to use there powers.

Hear All
08-07-2008, 12:09 AM
He whooped Tommy until Tommy decided to use a weapon. Seconds after Tommy armed himself Zedd retreated because his little staff got broke.

The rangers lost there powers twice, never defeated there enemy for good, and even had to have a whole other team come and replace them for a period of time so how do you figure that they didn't need extra equipment, powers, and all that other good stuff?

All that is excusable because no other team has had to fight 3 different Super-Villians, Rita, Zedd and Master Vile

King
08-07-2008, 12:10 AM
^^^How many villains did OO have again?

Hear All
08-07-2008, 12:15 AM
^^^How many villains did OO have again?

None of them can be considered "super-villians". They were all like a bunch of second in command bad guys, like Goldar, Zeltrax, Zurgane etc...

Thrax was the only villian in OO that I consider a "super-villian"

golden_phantom_ranger
08-07-2008, 12:19 AM
i really don't think that it gets to much. in some aspects it doesn't really get enough. all the characters were portrayed excellently. the villians were awesome. about the only thing that they could have done was to have made it more violent. i think that it might attract some older viewers if it was just a little more dark and violent. i understand that it might take a some of the youngers viewers away but not for long. i mean look how great the dark knight was. they went away from the stereotypical comic book movie and it turned out amazing.

King
08-07-2008, 12:22 AM
So you consider OO a season with no Super villains? Even if you want to say that MMPR is the only one who had to face 3 super villains, how did that really effect them compared to other teams? They basically faced the same thing as every other team which is foot soldiers and villains that can turn them into random shit. Also, you have to look at the quality of the villains. One main villain in Mondo was way worst then the combo of Zedd and Rita(zordon basically said so himself) and I can name plenty of other single main villains who are a bigger threat then them. Dark Spector himself thought Astronema was the big shit when it came down to main villains. In addition to that, if they would have defeated the main villain when it was only one of them they wouldn't have to face all them at the same time.

RyanRXP
08-07-2008, 02:20 AM
I watch MMPR often and I feel that 3 of the top 5 seasons were MMPR. The biggest, and most obvious, reason is the unmorphed fight scenes. I think that, besides Tommy, MMPR had some of the best actors in the shows history. The characters were also had strong personalities, and were established friends/good people (they helped children outside of ranger work), an idea that later seasons neglected. MMPR also reached the highest point of popularity, earning a big budget movie. Don’t rule out the fact that MMPR had a cast outside of the rangers. They gave an outside view on the power rangers, and expanded the city. Bulk and Skull allowed the writers to add comedy to the show. I don’t know about other people, but I don’t like the comedy coming, primarily from the rangers. The fact that the rangers went to school adds an aspect that other shows don’t. The mega zords were not overcomplicated (not having like 7 mega zords or 500 extra zords).


Look, people are entitled to their opinions. I personally think that Space was the best season, followed by S1, S3, and S2, bit that is just me. If you don’t get why people like MMPR so much, I understand, I can’t figure out why people like SPD so much. As far as the power ups go, I don’t think much people like them. I know I hate them (They are just reasons to sell toys and use unneeded CGI scenes).

King
08-07-2008, 02:23 AM
I watch MMPR often and I feel that 3 of the top 5 seasons were MMPR. The biggest, and most obvious, reason is the unmorphed fight scenes. I think that, besides Tommy, MMPR had some of the best actors in the shows history. The characters were also had strong personalities, and were established friends/good people (they helped children outside of ranger work), an idea that later seasons neglected. MMPR also reached the highest point of popularity, earning a big budget movie. Don’t rule out the fact that MMPR had a cast outside of the rangers. They gave an outside view on the power rangers, and expanded the city. Bulk and Skull allowed the writers to add comedy to the show. I don’t know about other people, but I don’t like the comedy coming, primarily from the rangers. The fact that the rangers went to school adds an aspect that other shows don’t. The mega zords were not overcomplicated (not having like 7 mega zords or 500 extra zords).


Look, people are entitled to their opinions. I personally think that Space was the best season, followed by S1, S3, and S2, bit that is just me. If you don’t get why people like MMPR so much, I understand, I can’t figure out why people like SPD so much. As far as the power ups go, I don’t think much people like them. I know I hate them (They are just reasons to sell toys and use unneeded CGI scenes).

This thread isn't about the quality of the show or which season was the best. But with that said, In space is, was, and will always be the best season :).

RyanRXP
08-07-2008, 02:26 AM
This thread isn't about the quality of the show or which season was the best. But with that said, In space is, was, and will always be the best season :).

I thought you were asking why people liked the show so much.

King
08-07-2008, 02:36 AM
No. I know why people like the show so much. I'm asking why people think they are the most powerful (both the team and the villains) and overall the best team.

Red Master
08-07-2008, 05:36 AM
I respect the orginal rangers,they had to go throught alot more with alot less than most teams get now.Do this make them a great team?Yes.Does it make them the greatest team?Well everyone has their own opinons on that.

Hear All
None of them can be considered "super-villians". They were all like a bunch of second in command bad guys, like Goldar, Zeltrax, Zurgane etc...
Thrax was the only villian in OO that I consider a "super-villian"

No they weren't a bunch of second in commands.Super villians don't sereve anyone else but themselves.Moltor,Kamdor,Mig & Benglo constanly made and enacted their own plans just like Rita,Zedd, and so on.Flurious was the only one who was like a second in command.Tharx was a super villian becuase of his lineage and because he brought them down,if only for a short while.

Now if we do a top three count down of who had to face the most super-villians it would be

#3)MMPR seasons 1-3--Rita/Zedd/Master Vile
#2)OO--Flurious,Moltor,Kamdor,Mig & Benglo
and
the
#1
team
is....
In Space--Rita,Zedd,Master Vile,King Mondo,Divatox + Astronema/Dark Spector

RyanRXP
08-07-2008, 05:43 AM
None of them can be considered "super-villians". They were all like a bunch of second in command bad guys, like Goldar, Zeltrax, Zurgane etc...

Thrax was the only villian in OO that I consider a "super-villian"

The only true super villian Power Rangers ever had was Dark Spector. I don't thing Overdrive had any real strong villians, but don't over exagerate their weakness. P.S. Thrax was not a super villian, he just had one trick, that he could only do once. You could maybe call Zedd a super villian, seeing as he conquered many worlds through his own power (unlike Mondo, who just had a huge mech army)

2580
08-07-2008, 06:40 AM
One thing I'd like to note is that Goldar and other monsters could be fought fairly successively without the Rangers morphing. Beginning in Zeo, we were introduced to the idea of the Rangers having to morph in order to defeat foot soldiers. All of this means that the villains have gotten more powerful, which means that the Rangers' powers have become more potent to compensate.

RyanRXP
08-07-2008, 07:40 AM
One thing I'd like to note is that Goldar and other monsters could be fought fairly successively without the Rangers morphing. Beginning in Zeo, we were introduced to the idea of the Rangers having to morph in order to defeat foot soldiers. All of this means that the villains have gotten more powerful, which means that the Rangers' powers have become more potent to compensate.

Goldar could not be fought any where near successfully. He could, however be tricked/outsmarted. Also for the foot soldier part, look at who they had. The only members on the Zeo team that were good at fighting foot soldiers were Tommy and Adam. Rocky was not shown to be that good of a fighter, Tanya was new, and Kat just was not good at fighting. The only time Jason morphed, by himself, to fight them was when he was weakened. That said the cogs were harder to defeat than the Z-putties (you have to fight them, not hit their chests).

Tidus21
08-07-2008, 11:48 AM
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers get the credit because it did something that no one did both in within the show and outside the show.

MMPR influenced my generation of people and had a great impact on the culture at the time. You couldnt change the channel without running into a MMPR commercial. MMPR was on the weekend during the best timeslot and then was put into heavy rotation during the week day as well.

MMPR within the show itself had character who developed and changed to match the people watching the show with it. Billy was the most notable character change through out the series and then Rocky's change from a character that no one liked to a good blue ranger.

They are considered the best for the countless times they saved the world and challenged evil. Every Character had something to bring to the table and had great fighting abilities and those abilities grew. Each character also became leader material through the shows original run. Billy became a substitute leader, Tommy took over, Kim had her spots, Adam...became a legend and lead the Retro Rangers, Rocky became leader quality after Zeo, Zack had the potential along with Trini and Kat.

Andros and Zhane were great rangers but the full Space team wasnt all too great but were better than when they were in the Turbo Suits.

The Strongest team
Jason
Trini
Kim
Billy
Zack
Tommy

Other notable strong rangers
Andros
Zhane
Adam
Rocky

Find a full team that can go toe to toe with the original cast or rangers.

Jiemusu
08-07-2008, 06:01 PM
MMPR is better than most of the later seasons because the MMPR rangers could kick ass UNMORPHED, then they moved up to the next level 'if they HAD to'. That's the principle. Not only this, but the cast were extrodinary fighters, and you believed they were fighters because that's the kind of character they were in the show.

It wasn't just "Oh s***, grunt enemies attacking during the middle of my gig or soccer match. Quick guys, let's morph. YEAH! SOLAR BLAST!!"

It was "Ok, so that concludes the karate class for today. Woah, what's that, enemy grunts stiring trouble? I'll tackle them all on unmorphed. I'll save the morphing for when real danger comes." It was believable.

Everytime a monster appeared in later seasons, they messed themselves because they were unable to step up to the next level, because they were already morphed. It's psychological.

The connection between the team was believable, they all believed in the same thing.

It wasn't "Ok so we have an entire coperation and base to tackle villains, mostly consisting of extras standing near consoles just so it looks like they're doing something. Ok we'll recruit a sky cowboy, rock climber, fireman, shark swimmer and a military captain's daughter to form a super team of SUPER HUMANS!!"

It was "Ok, here we are, you and me in our tiny base, we know exactly what we are doing, viewing globe. Now let's find some ordinary teenagers with attitude who are all close friends."

See my point?

Night_Fang
08-08-2008, 04:42 AM
too much credit? no way! they set the tone of what the power rangers should be. people with different personalities and backgrounds coming together to save the world. they were just teenagers with attitude chosen to be put in the middle of something bigger than them and they came out on top without needing 50 power ups and weapons. Just their original morphed forms and their martial art skills they practiced in every episode proving that practice makes perfect.

Primal Slayer
08-08-2008, 05:57 AM
I dont think people give them to much credit since MMPR was a good team all around. And they didnt require constant power-ups as teams nowadays do. They had natural skill and knew what they were doing. They didnt rely on any battelizers or Red Rangers to save the day constantly.

King
08-08-2008, 04:14 PM
And they didnt require constant power-ups as teams nowadays do. They had natural skill and knew what they were doing. They didnt rely on any battelizers or Red Rangers to save the day constantly.

They didn't rely on those things because they didn't have them. Instead they relied on Zordon to hold there hand through all there problems, power switches, and having a team from another planet come and take there place when they failed. Maybe if they had constant power-ups and battilizers they would have won.

Rebelde
08-08-2008, 04:23 PM
OMG YES! They get FAR to much credit "They were the original, so they're the best!" to be honest..MMPR is one of the most BORING season IMO... it's like..the same thing over and over... Kimberly's line "POWER BOOOOW" still runs over and over inside my head

Izout
08-08-2008, 04:25 PM
So are every season, so whats the point?

Jiemusu
08-08-2008, 04:25 PM
Someone could say the same about 'Overdrive Accelerate' or 'Spd, swat mode!'

It's the name of her weapon.

Rebelde
08-08-2008, 04:27 PM
Yeah, but that line is kinda annoying xD lol

And I think MMPR was boring..this is my opinion..you don't have to think the same...but I think it gets FAR to much credit..

Jiemusu
08-08-2008, 04:31 PM
That's fair enough, I think the same about Time Force.

Rebelde
08-08-2008, 04:45 PM
Yeah, and I respect your opinion as I hope you respect mine ^_^

Jiemusu
08-08-2008, 04:46 PM
Don't see why not. ^_^

Izout
08-08-2008, 06:34 PM
You know, I wonder why some have issues against MMPR now? That's what started boards like this. There must have been something good about it to take Power Rangers as far as it's gone.

Skeleman
08-08-2008, 06:53 PM
You know, I wonder why some have issues against MMPR now? That's what started boards like this. There must have been something good about it to take Power Rangers as far as it's gone.

I don't think most of them have anything against MMPR itself but have problems with other people putting it up on a much higher pedestal than they think it deserves. And I for one hate it when someone says something like, "MMPR was first, it was best!" I have no problem with anyone liking any season more than any other but I do have a problem when someone backs up their opinion with a stupid reason like "because it was first."

Tidus21
08-10-2008, 11:42 PM
Well for me the reason that MMPR is the best and well my last post says it all...

the overall effect it had on the world, multiple countries were airing it, commercials, and the influence it had over the kids of my generation.

the show itself was great, very corny now if you watch it but i still enjoy it, lol.

Scaletex
08-10-2008, 11:54 PM
The show would have been nothing without Ron Wasserman's music. I believe the music was the selling point. The music made it into a sort of euphoric trance of an experience for the audience. Otherwise, it was just dinosaur-themed spandex beating the crap out of Barney every single week. (Not that there isn't fun to be had it that!)

Later seasons didn't have as much of Ron Wasserman's music in them, and that's part of what ruined those shows.

On top of that, dinosaurs sell. "Shapes" don't, unless you're marketing to 3-year-olds. Cars sell, but not as well as dinosaurs. Spaceships sell, but not as well as dinosaurs though better than cars. Ripping off Star Trek only works on nerds.

Rescue vehicles sell, but not like dinosaurs and race cars and spaceships do. Ripping off Back to the Future is a bad strategy to kids too young to remember that franchise. PR: Captain Planet Force without Captain Planet was just a dumb idea period.

Ninjas sell, but not as well as dinosaurs or spaceships or race cars. Police sell even worse than ninjas. Ripping off Harry Potter is a risky venture. Construction vehicles sell about as well as rescue vehicles. Jungle beasts sell about as well as ninjas.

In the 10-year-old boys' market, nothing tops dinosaurs!

And few musicians top Ron Wasserman.

Jiemusu
08-11-2008, 12:10 AM
Lack of Mighty RAW is why most later seasons suck, also... Mighty RAW is why S.P.D is one my favorite Disney seasons.

Zedd's the man
08-11-2008, 03:06 AM
OMG, yes it is the most overrated season of all time. The quality of writing is horrible, horrible, horrible. Also the villains are complete jokes (seriously who's bright idea was it to make every villain in the show comedy relief? I couldn't respect any of them post season 2, not even the new Zedd.)

Primal Slayer
08-11-2008, 03:51 AM
Do you remember the 90s? They only changed Zedd and Goldar because soccer moms thought they were to dark and ofcourse PR didnt want any kind of backlash.

Zedd's the man
08-11-2008, 05:35 AM
Goldar was goofy all the way from season one, Zedd didn't get stupid until the wedding.

Primal Slayer
08-11-2008, 09:31 PM
Golday was goofy in S1? He didnt seem goofy to me. Maybe my memory is just getting old.

Jiemusu
08-11-2008, 09:59 PM
Personality

Goldar certainly was not goofy in terms of personality at the start of Season 1, no chance. He was an aggresive, ferorious general of Rita's empire. With no care or remorse. While I will agree that, as time went on in Season, and Season 2, Goldar kept his same brutal personality but he had began to become goofy in terms of his communication and diction. By the time Season 3 and 4 came about, Goldar had finally turned into a complete joke, thanks to parents.

Appearance

Has always been goofy, always will be.

RyanRXP
08-11-2008, 10:11 PM
Goldar was goofy all the way from season one, Zedd didn't get stupid until the wedding.

In season 1 all Goldar wanted to do was serve Rita, and never complained. He didn't talk much, all he did was follow orders and fight Power Rangers. He also had a much cooler voice in season 1.

Ernde38
08-12-2008, 01:50 AM
They didn't rely on those things because they didn't have them. Instead they relied on Zordon to hold there hand through all there problems, power switches, and having a team from another planet come and take there place when they failed. Maybe if they had constant power-ups and battilizers they would have won.

They didn't fail you twit! They were turned into children by something that they didn't know was coming!

Iron Ranger
08-12-2008, 02:16 AM
It does get too much credit...

End of story.

OhioRedRanger08
08-12-2008, 02:41 AM
Im a little biased towards the MMPR. I mean it was THE SHOW, nothing in my opinion will ever replace it. Not any of the newer Power Ranger shows. I mean who didnt LOVE it? Name 1 show today that there was SO Much Merchandise. you have to go with the fact that MMPR was EVERYWHERE. From Cookies to figures MMPR Had it all, and it also had a much better Character background than any of the newer rangers.

King
08-12-2008, 03:21 AM
They didn't fail you twit! They were turned into children by something that they didn't know was coming!

If they didn't fail how come another ranger team from another planet had to come fight for them?

Your needless insult and point about them not seeing it coming doesn't change the fact that it was a loss and that they failed as MMPR's.

Primal Slayer
08-12-2008, 03:28 AM
how are they suppose to see everything that coming? That doesnt mean they failed. Not like MasterVile sent them memo "im going to turn you back into children! muwahaha"

King
08-12-2008, 03:32 AM
how are they suppose to see everything that coming? That doesnt mean they failed. Not like MasterVile sent them memo "im going to turn you back into children! muwahaha"

So they didn't fail because they didn't see it coming? You have to see it coming for it to be counted as a failure?

I guess the AOE didn't fail then since they didn't see the Z-wave coming.

Primal Slayer
08-12-2008, 03:35 AM
I dont see it as a failure since you cant exactly fail at something you dont see coming. If they knew that Vile was planning on turning them into children and failed to stop him from doing so, thats a failure.

King
08-12-2008, 03:41 AM
They didn't fail at something they didn't see coming they failed because of something they didn't see coming. What they failed at was the battle vs. evil. It was basically the MMPR's vs. the big bads. Because they failed, Zordon had to call the alien rangers and it became the alien rangers vs. the big bads. Look at it like a sports game. Team 1 vs. Team 2!! If Team 1 comes up with some trick play that nobody has ever seen before to win the game does team 2 not lose since they didn't see it coming?

Legendary.
08-12-2008, 03:43 AM
A lost is a lost whether you see it coming or not.

Primal Slayer
08-12-2008, 03:52 AM
I guess this just comes down to how you look at it. IMO I still see it as, you cant fail as a team when you cant see someone changing the whole world into children. No way you can possibly know its going to happen thus no way you are can stop it. Its you are walking down the street and there is drive by, you get shot. So its your fault for getting shot because you didnt think about some random people coming and shooting up the place. Its your fault you get hit by a car because you dont see the car coming.

King
08-12-2008, 04:18 AM
I guess this just comes down to how you look at it. IMO I still see it as, you cant fail as a team when you cant see someone changing the whole world into children. No way you can possibly know its going to happen thus no way you are can stop it. Its you are walking down the street and there is drive by, you get shot. So its your fault for getting shot because you didnt think about some random people coming and shooting up the place. Its your fault you get hit by a car because you dont see the car coming.

The rangers have been getting attacked with random plans for years. They might not have known the specific plan that was coming at them next but they knew one was coming. The analogy's you used are totally different situations because the person getting shot at probably doesn't get shot at every day. The person who gets hit by a car probably doesn't have somebody trying to hit them with a car everyday.

Scaletex
08-17-2008, 10:11 PM
I dont see it as a failure since you cant exactly fail at something you dont see coming. If they knew that Vile was planning on turning them into children and failed to stop him from doing so, thats a failure.

It was a failure. Failure simply means failure. What you're trying to say is that it was justified because they had no clue it was happening - even Zordon didn't see it coming, when he very well should have.

The justification, you can make a case for.

tsda
08-18-2008, 12:36 AM
Zedd was a badass who could roll over any opponent that stood in front of him. As I recall, he whooped Tommy pretty well, and Tommy was an extraordinarily powerful Ranger.
As I can recall, Andros easily wiped out Zedd's attack during "From out of Nowhere". Besides, he runned away fearing for his life during the beginning of Zeo and, although he didn't like the suddenly apparition of Master Ville bossing around his henchmen, he never lift a finger to do anything against him. So I disagree with it.

It's true that other, later Rangers had extra equipment, extra powers, and the like... but the Rangers of MMPR did not need any of that to face and defeat evil. I believe that is the reason they come out on top most of the time in these polls. They relied on themselves and the most basic Ranger powers to fight evil, not battilizers or power-ups.

It's true that the MMPR weren't as powerful as the other teams were (talking about technology, power ups, battlizers, ...). However, they also had to defeat the weakest villains out of the PR Universe (until now, though). The Putties were the weakest foot soldiers out there, and it became even easier to the rangers when Zedd brought with him the Z ones. The first monsters had all some weaknesses, so it was easy to win against them. The fact that the rangers had only minimal changes (Thunderzords, White Ranger and Power Cannon) after Rita was banished by Zedd shows that he wasn't that big threat of a villain. This only started to change shape when Rita and Zedd united their forces against the rangers (and their army was reinforced with Rito, Tengas, Master Ville (although for a brief moment), ...).

BTW, I grew watching MMPR and S3 is my third favorite season out there. :)

Ernde38
08-18-2008, 09:12 PM
If they didn't fail how come another ranger team from another planet had to come fight for them?

Your needless insult and point about them not seeing it coming doesn't change the fact that it was a loss and that they failed as MMPR's.

The Aquitian Rangers had to come because the Earth Rangers lost their powers when Zedd and Rita destroyed the Ninja Power Coins. It can't be a loss if it was never a battle! There was no battle over the device that turned back time!

King
08-18-2008, 10:32 PM
Ernde38, you know what, I just did something that I should have done earlier and something that I usually do in discussions like this which is watch the actual episode before posting about what happened in it. I usually don't go off of memory but in this little exchange between Primal Slayer and yourself I did. And because I went off of memory I waisted time arguing against points that aren't even true. Your first excuse for why the Mighty morphin rangers didn't lose was because they didn't see it coming. But after watching "rangers in the reverse" I clearly saw that the rangers DID see this coming. All 6 rangers were in the command center when Zordon warned them of the orb of doom. He told them that if the orb of Doom is placed in the right longitude and latitude that the orb has the power to stop time and reverse the Earths rotation. Ultimately thats what Master vile did. The fact that Zordon told them what the plan was and then sent them to stop him shows they saw it coming.

Your latest excuse for why they didn't lose was because "It can't be a loss if it was never a battle! There was no battle over the device that turned back time!". But guess what? There was a battle for the orb. Rito, Goldar, and some tengas were sent down to place the orb in its proper location for it to reverse time. The rangers knew exactly what they were trying to do so they went to stop them. A battle ensued and ultimately the rangers failed because Rito placed the orb in its proper location and left. So long story short; they did see it coming and there was a battle to stop it.

RangerDCMA
08-19-2008, 02:41 AM
The thing is the Space Rangers did pretty much the same as the Originals, but better.

They were relatively inexperienced and yet they managed to hold off against the UAOE and Zordon only came in when absolutely neccessary. They were willing to reveal their indentities to everyone to protect their lives.

They had relatively no extra powers, other than Andros' Battalizer, and that itself was seldom used.

And as far as they knew, they were the last ones left. They didn't know Zordon could wipe out the evil by being destroyed himself, but they still fought to the very end

To be honest, the Mighty Morphin's just held evil back. It was the Space(Or Lightstar as i've heard somewhere before) Rangers who came in to finish the job.

RyanRXP
08-19-2008, 02:52 AM
MMPR made the show hit popularity marks never before seen from kids TV. No season after it could ever get anywhere near the popularity. All of your complaints can be said for every show at that time. Why people say the acting was bad, I will never know. The only person that could not act was JDF, plus I would say that Amy Jo Johnson and Walter Jones are the 2 best actors the show has ever had. One thing MMPR did better than any other season was show kids how to be better people. They had episodes showing that you should not start fights, how important teamwork is, you should help the environment, and above all, to have self confidence.

King
08-19-2008, 03:21 AM
MMPR made the show hit popularity marks never before seen from kids TV. No season after it could ever get anywhere near the popularity. All of your complaints can be said for every show at that time. Why people say the acting was bad, I will never know. The only person that could not act was JDF, plus I would say that Amy Jo Johnson and Walter Jones are the 2 best actors the show has ever had. One thing MMPR did better than any other season was show kids how to be better people. They had episodes showing that you should not start fights, how important teamwork is, you should help the environment, and above all, to have self confidence.

Thats not what the thread is about

Ernde38
08-19-2008, 03:26 AM
Thats not what the thread is about

It's not about your opinion on whether they failed either, but you wanted to continuously argue about that.

RyanRXP
08-19-2008, 03:28 AM
Thats not what the thread is about

Yes it is. The question is "Does MMPR get to much credit" I am giving reasons why it is not. If I can't give reasons why, while people give reasons why, than this thread should be closed.

King
08-19-2008, 03:29 AM
It's not about your opinion on whether they failed either, but you wanted to continuously argue about that.

Its about how they get to much credit as a strong team and them failing is apart of why they arent a strong team compared to others.

And i guess you ran out of excuses on why they didnt fail huh?

King
08-19-2008, 03:30 AM
Yes it is. The question is "Does MMPR get to much credit" I am giving reasons why it is not. If I can't give reasons why, while people give reasons why, than this thread should be closed.

Did you skip the first post explaining what i think they get to much credit on?

RyanRXP
08-19-2008, 03:45 AM
So, we can only debate what you said? That my friend is censorship, I thought that people on this board were above that.

Ernde38
08-19-2008, 03:49 AM
Its about how they get to much credit as a strong team and them failing is apart of why they arent a strong team compared to others.

And i guess you ran out of excuses on why they didnt fail huh?

I guess that means that the Turbo Rangers, Magna Defender Mike, Ninja Storm Rangers, Dino Thunder Rangers and any other rangers that "lost" their powers are failures too...

King
08-19-2008, 03:50 AM
So, we can only debate what you said? That my friend is censorship, I thought that people on this board were above that.

Well since I made the thread yeah. Same way I can't go into one of your "positive" ranger season threads and start saying negative stuff about other seasons.

King
08-19-2008, 03:51 AM
I guess that means that the Turbo Rangers, Magna Defender Mike, Ninja Storm Rangers, Dino Thunder Rangers and any other rangers that "lost" their powers are failures too...

The turbo rangers yes. The DT rangers, Magna defender, and NS rangers no because they won at the end of there season and didn't have to have another ranger team come fight there battle for them.

Ernde38
08-19-2008, 03:54 AM
The turbo rangers yes. The DT rangers, Magna defender, and NS rangers no because they won at the end of there season and didn't have to have another ranger team come fight there battle for them.

How do you expect the Rangers to fight when they've been turned into children!?

King
08-19-2008, 03:55 AM
How do you expect the Rangers to fight when they've been turned into children!?

I don't. I expect them to stop rito, Goldar, and some tangas from putting them in that situation.

RyanRXP
08-19-2008, 04:06 AM
Did you skip the first post explaining what i think they get to much credit on?

Well since I made the thread yeah. Same way I can't go into one of your "positive" ranger season threads and start saying negative stuff about other seasons.

I make the rules clear in the first post. You did not set up rules, you just said your opinion, and expected people to debate only that. There was no rules set up. It would be like I start a thread, and a week later I decide that I want to say that you can only talk about one thing. You can either have a mod change the title, or open it up. In your fist post you say why you think they are overrated, but you never said that people can't bring up their own reasons as to why it was not. You can not just say that it is overrated, and not allow others to bring up reasons outside of the show to say whether or not MMPR is overrated. If you just set up rules in the fist post, I could not complain, but you did not.

King
08-19-2008, 04:25 AM
I make the rules clear in the first post. You did not set up rules, you just said your opinion, and expected people to debate only that. There was no rules set up. It would be like I start a thread, and a week later I decide that I want to say that you can only talk about one thing. You can either have a mod change the title, or open it up. In your fist post you say why you think they are overrated, but you never said that people can't bring up their own reasons as to why it was not. You can not just say that it is overrated, and not allow others to bring up reasons outside of the show to say whether or not MMPR is overrated. If you just set up rules in the fist post, I could not complain, but you did not.

Look around. Most threads don't have people listing rules because most people know how a forum works. Somebody makes a topic and the thread is about what the person made the topic about. I made the thread about how the MMPR's get to much credit when it comes down to saying who is the strongest and most powerful therefore thats what this thread is about.

RyanRXP
08-19-2008, 04:41 AM
Look around. Most threads don't have people listing rules because most people know how a forum works. Somebody makes a topic and the thread is about what the person made the topic about. I made the thread about how the MMPR's get to much credit when it comes down to saying who is the strongest and most powerful therefore thats what this thread is about.

But you never set it up in that way. If you did, I would have no problem. Like I said, you just said why you think it is overrated. You can not just expect people to do things your way. You can not just set up rules after a period of time has passed. That is why I set up rules, to avoid all this. You never put up rules, or set up a direction to where this thread would be going. Most threads that don't list rules have a direction for the thread set from the start.

King
08-19-2008, 04:46 AM
But you never set it up in that way. If you did, I would have no problem. Like I said, you just said why you think it is overrated. You can not just expect people to do things your way. You can not just set up rules after a period of time has passed. That is why I set up rules, to avoid all this. You never put up rules, or set up a direction to where this thread would be going. Most threads that don't list rules have a direction for the thread set from the start.

If its a thread I made then I can expect things to go my way as far as the topic. Thats how it is for everybody who starts a thread.

If you would have read the thread you would have seen the direction it was going. My first post says what direction this thread was suppose to be going. And hell, you can go back to page 2 post 13 and 14 where I told you specifically what this thread was about when you misunderstood it the first time. And yet you come back again with the same type of post.

RyanRXP
08-19-2008, 04:50 AM
If its a thread I made then I can expect things to go my way as far as the topic. Thats how it is for everybody who starts a thread.

If you would have read the thread you would have seen the direction it was going. Hell, go back to page 2 post 13 and 14 where I told you what this thread was about when you misunderstood it the first time. And yet you come back again with the same type of post.

Like I said, you set up rules after the thread was made. The fact that you keep on having to remind people what it is about, shows that you made it with no sense of direction. You can not dissallow people to say what want, just because it deflates your point.

King
08-19-2008, 04:54 AM
Like I said, you set up rules after the thread was made. The fact that you keep on having to remind people what it is about, shows that you made it with no sense of direction. You can not dissallow people to say what want, just because it deflates your point.

I don't have to keep reminding people I have to keep reminding you. Why are you even bringing this up? You knew what the thread was about since page two because I told you specifically.

RyanRXP
08-19-2008, 05:03 AM
I don't have to keep reminding people I have to keep reminding you. Why are you even bringing this up? You knew what the thread was about since page two because I told you specifically.

And I was too tired to fight, I was sick. Now I am healthy and full of energy and will not back down. You can not talk only in show, as much as you would like to. Popularity effects the way the characters are viewed. Wild Force was not popular, so no one liked the charcters. MMPR was the most popular, so people liked the rangers. Like I said, you just leave what you like, and you don't allow what does not help you.

King
08-19-2008, 05:08 AM
And I was too tired to fight, I was sick. Now I am healthy and full of energy and will not back down. You can not talk only in show, as much as you would like to. Popularity effects the way the characters are viewed. Wild Force was not popular, so no one liked the charcters. MMPR was the most popular, so people liked the rangers. Like I said, you just leave what you like, and you don't allow what does not help you.

Its my thread so I can talk about just in show. If you wanna talk about outside of the show then you go make a thread about it. Its not up to you to tell me what I can talk about in this thread. I made this thread to talk about how the MMPR's get to much credit for being powerful(as well as zedd) not how much they are liked or how popular they are. If you don't wanna talk about that then make a thread about what you do wanna talk about.

RyanRXP
08-19-2008, 05:11 AM
King, you are wrong to say that my post does not fit into this thread. If you really think that what I said is not what this thread is about, then you have to reread all the other posts. I posted my comments after reading all of the posts(like I always do). I would say that about 70% of the post don't fit this thread(using what you said about my post) so complain about them, don't just single me out.

Emily Corbett
08-19-2008, 05:18 AM
ok you guys, get back to the topic of this thread please.

King
08-19-2008, 05:18 AM
King, you are wrong to say that my post does not fit into this thread. If you really think that what I said is not what this thread is about, then you have to reread all the other posts. I posted my comments after reading all of the posts(like I always do). I would say that about 70% of the post don't fit this thread(using what you said about my post) so complain about them, don't just single me out.

Damn near every thread branches off topic in someway or another but its usually a natural evolution that still has to do with what the overall topic is about. Its usually somebody trying to make a point about the topic. For example, earlier in this thread there was a discussion about who was considered a main villain and who wasn't. That discussion came from somebody trying to make a point in favor of the MMPR's not getting to much credit and although it wasn't what this topic is specifically about it was still on topic because its talking about in show. Not popularity and out of show stuff which I specifically told the person who's bitching about this thread right now(which is you) that its not what this thread is about. I'm singling you out because you won't shut up. I told you since page 2 what this thread is about. You know what this thread is about and continue to purposely argue just to be arguing.

Legendary.
08-19-2008, 05:21 AM
I thought you were asking why people liked the show so much.

No. I know why people like the show so much. I'm asking why people think they are the most powerful (both the team and the villains) and overall the best team.

Thread title, "Do the might morphin rangers get too much credit?"

Answer, only because they came first. A lot of people smoke nostalgia. That's why too them it's always Tommy=PWN, Kim=<3, Jason=Best red ranger...

Yeah no, I don't give them credit for crap. I personally think that show was filled with too much to say it was the best.

The team is either overrated or under rated. The villains wanted to take over the world so they start with a town we never heard of, where Power Rangers just happen to be, why didn't they just attack somewhere else, apparently new rangers in different areas are yearly so I mean hey why not leave A.G and head to Brisbane, Britain, Nigeria, I mean come on...I know they had episodes where they left A.G but for some reason trouble followed them instead of trouble finding somewhere there aren't power rangers.

RyanRXP
08-19-2008, 05:28 AM
I was responding to the direction it was going on my page 2(30-60) I don't see how mine was more off topic then theirs. They went from talking about MMPR's effects on the world, and then the music. But you let all of them go and picked me out, that is why I am fighting. This thread never fit anything like how you say it is. Now we should take the blueforever2212's advice and drop it. I will not back down if you keep complaining about my posts. I have a good point, and you have a good point, but neither is better than the other.

King
08-19-2008, 05:31 AM
Ryan go cry about my thread in your own thread. This wasn't an issue until you made it an issue. The mod said drop it so drop it. The only reason why I had a post after the mod was because we posted at the same time.

Ernde38
08-19-2008, 06:58 AM
Thread title, "Do the might morphin rangers get too much credit?"

Answer, only because they came first. A lot of people smoke nostalgia. That's why too them it's always Tommy=PWN, Kim=<3, Jason=Best red ranger...

Yeah no, I don't give them credit for crap. I personally think that show was filled with too much to say it was the best.

The team is either overrated or under rated. The villains wanted to take over the world so they start with a town we never heard of, where Power Rangers just happen to be, why didn't they just attack somewhere else, apparently new rangers in different areas are yearly so I mean hey why not leave A.G and head to Brisbane, Britain, Nigeria, I mean come on...I know they had episodes where they left A.G but for some reason trouble followed them instead of trouble finding somewhere there aren't power rangers.


Rita Repulsa started attacking before the modern Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers existed. Zordon and Alpha 5 didn't recruit the 5 originals until AFTER Rita started attacking the city. The reason they kept attacking Angel Grove after the rangers arrived is because they wanted to get rid of them, because even if they had started attacking in another city, the rangers wouldn't have just sat around and said, "It's ain't Angel Grove, so we ain't fightin'.". You have to remember that the villains weren't just trying to conquer Angel Grove, they were trying to take over Earth. Angel Grove is the first step in the plan because that's the city the rangers live in. Once you take them out, the Earth is yours for the taking.

And if you don't believe me, go watch the first movie again. It may not be cannon, but it sure was a good plan by Ooze. Trick the kids, which brainwashes the parents (same thing as conquering the city), the rangers battle the Oozemen, Ivan takes out Zordon, and the city, and the Earth is defenseless against him.

Legendary.
08-19-2008, 08:02 AM
Rita Repulsa started attacking before the modern Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers existed. Zordon and Alpha 5 didn't recruit the 5 originals until AFTER Rita started attacking the city. The reason they kept attacking Angel Grove after the rangers arrived is because they wanted to get rid of them, because even if they had started attacking in another city, the rangers wouldn't have just sat around and said, "It's ain't Angel Grove, so we ain't fightin'.". You have to remember that the villains weren't just trying to conquer Angel Grove, they were trying to take over Earth. Angel Grove is the first step in the plan because that's the city the rangers live in. Once you take them out, the Earth is yours for the taking.

And if you don't believe me, go watch the first movie again. It may not be cannon, but it sure was a good plan by Ooze. Trick the kids, which brainwashes the parents (same thing as conquering the city), the rangers battle the Oozemen, Ivan takes out Zordon, and the city, and the Earth is defenseless against him.

Okay so apparently the command center and Angel Grove are close. But uh, what made them go to Angel Grove in the first place. Did they they play darts with the earth? Did they know Zordon was there? How did they not notice a the Command Center there before?

Without the evil in Angel Grove there wouldn't have been Power Rangers in Angel Grove. It's not like she knew the power were there. While I understand your logic, try and see mine. Divide and conquer. You send the rangers to different parts of the world forcing them to save millions, rather then hundreds of townies.

The difference between Ivan and Zedd & Rita is that Ivan went straight for the Power Source but that made no sense either because their powers were from the coins not Zordon. Since Ivan attacked their power source they had no choice but to abandon the city to find new powers. And even then Ivan only focused his attack on Angel Grove, sure he had intentions of the world, but where did the rangers go to the moment they had their powers again?

Scaletex
08-25-2008, 01:40 AM
Okay so apparently the command center and Angel Grove are close. But uh, what made them go to Angel Grove in the first place. Did they they play darts with the earth? Did they know Zordon was there? How did they not notice a the Command Center there before?

Without the evil in Angel Grove there wouldn't have been Power Rangers in Angel Grove. It's not like she knew the power were there. While I understand your logic, try and see mine. Divide and conquer. You send the rangers to different parts of the world forcing them to save millions, rather then hundreds of townies.

The difference between Ivan and Zedd & Rita is that Ivan went straight for the Power Source but that made no sense either because their powers were from the coins not Zordon. Since Ivan attacked their power source they had no choice but to abandon the city to find new powers. And even then Ivan only focused his attack on Angel Grove, sure he had intentions of the world, but where did the rangers go to the moment they had their powers again?

They had to keep it in the same city as long as possible in order to keep rehashing the same sets over and over again for as long as possible. And the forcing of things even when they didn't make sense just to keep everything in one area is a plague that is not exclusive to PR. As I recall, the same thing happened on Alf, Small Wonder, Boy Meets World, Big Comfy Couch, Ghostwriter, and countless other shows from the 80's and 90's.

Until the WB came along and we had Smallville and similar shows, most TV programs were restricted to budgets that were unfathomably minuscule compared with the budgets of major films of that era. We take for granted today the fact that the visual effects on Heroes are at least on par with the effects in films of just five years ago.

But 90's PR was restricted to a budget that you could hardly make a season of Survivor on these days. Keep in mind that PR is a little less than half the age of Sesame Street (16 vs. 39), and that should provide some perspective.

Primal Slayer
08-25-2008, 03:17 AM
Isnt the Dragonzord near Angelgrove? Rita had apparently attacked around there before she was put into her dumpster and when she gets out she wants revenge and sets her sights on somewhere close to where she was defeated.. Maybe she picked it because she knew Zordon was somewhere in the area but she couldnt pin-point him and tried to draw him out per say.