Is Connor truly the strongest?

[Super Jeff]

He was a ranger that has went through many power ups. Super Dino Mode, Triassic Ranger, and his battelizer. He has been known to be a power junkie. WIth all this at his disposal do you think he is one of if not the the most powerful ranger of all time?

Feel free to discuss you opinions on this.

[PowerOnyx]

The more power-ups you need, the weaker you are.

[Jiemusu]

The more power-ups you need, the weaker you are.

Sort of like how the more returns and guest apperances you need, the poorer character you are.

But people don't tend to buy that.

So people, in theory, shouldn't buy that Connor is weak because he needs the powerups.

The power up he recieved were not because he was so weak that he needed them to be on the same level as everyone else. He was similar to that unmorphed anyway.

Connor having all those powerups, i.e being the Triassic Ranger and THEN having a battlizer, was to make up for Abareranger only having a max of 5 Rangers, and not a 6th.

Connor is practically a Ranger god when maxed out, what with his own Triassic dimension that only he controls.

But STRONGEST?

Nick and Mac would have something to say about that.

I mean Nick apparently has infinite magic and can do practically anything, and Mac pocessed abilitites too strong for a human to ever achieve.

If Connor was more powerful than Mac then that would mean that Connor pocessed abilities way of of the leagues of humans, and Connor is a human, it would be a contradiction, and would make some kind of paradox.

Nick is different because of pure good magic, which Connor (not being a wizard) cannot tap into. Unexplained Disney plotdevice that make Nick pretty much invincible.

Wizard Human --> Android --> Normal Human.

Connor, however, is still the 3rd most powerful Red Ranger, and would still **** everyone's shizzle up.

But the true question is, the rest of the Mystic Force team's potential.

Would every Ranger in Mystic Force be above Mac?

Also now that Mac is human, not an android, would that affect things?

Is Connor now the 2nd most powerful Red Ranger?

[PowerOnyx]

So would this mean Tommy is the weakest?

He's been through some many colors and had had a power failure with almost all of them.

[Jiemusu]

So would this mean Tommy is the weakest?

He's been through some many colors and had had a power failure with almost all of them.

Tommy is a strange case, his body shouldn't even be able to contain all of that energy, since it each comes from a different part of the morphin grid, the sheer quantity of the infusion of all those seperate powers should be too much for one person to have, even if the other powers are dormant, his body still harnesses the energy from all those different powers.

[Green Elephant]

With all those upgrades, I believe Conner was "compensating for something"

[PowerOnyx]

^Lack of personality?

[DaiRed]

^Lack of personality?

Uh yeah, that's it.:o;)

[eraofdinothunder4eva]

i like dino thunder a lot as u can probably tell by my name. but i cant imagine him being the strongest. in the season itself trent is the strongest in my opinion. the whole of the pr universe? its debatable i mean silver ranger was said to be the strongest ranger in the galaxy or something like tat

[Jiemusu]

Connor is easily far more powerful as Triassic Ranger than Trent is as White Ranger.

Also Silver Ranger was the most powerful up to that point, anything after hasn't really been explained.

[eraofdinothunder4eva]

what's your proof? him defeating evil white ranger clone doesn't count. 1st his not trent, 2nd evil white ranger is weak because of morphing grid thingy

[Jiemusu]

what's your proof? him defeating evil white ranger clone doesn't count. 1st his not trent, 2nd evil white ranger is weak because of morphing grid thingy

Well put it this way.

The power of Trent's White Ranger power went into assembling the power of the Triassic Ranger's Shield of Triumpth, which also contained the energies of the Yellow, Blue, Black and Red Rangers, and that made up Triassic Rangers' power. Then add a battlizer to that.

So yeah, fairly sure Triassic Ranger at full power is stronger than Trent at full power.

[eraofdinothunder4eva]

alright.. :( but at least trent is the coolest right u gotta admit..:p

[Jiemusu]

Agreed. Trent was the only character in that season that made it bearable for me.

[DarkProject]

I still say that it would have been cooler if the Shield of Triumph could have been used by any of the rangers.

If that was the case, my vote would be for Triassic Black as strongest. (In season, of course.)

As far as the OP, I really don't like it, but since SK seems to be Super-Zordon, and Mack and SK merged, it seems like he's the strongest. (Even after becoming human. I think that if they wanted, SK could change him back simply for the power-up, then back to human afterwards.)

I think that Nick's (possibly) limitless magic ability would make the Red Dragon Ranger second, if only because I think that SK would beat him in a "I can do anything" contest.

So, that leaves Connor at lonely 3.

[Jiemusu]

I still say that it would have been cooler if the Shield of Triumph could have been used by any of the rangers.

If that was the case, my vote would be for Triassic Black as strongest. (In season, of course.)

As far as the OP, I really don't like it, but since SK seems to be Super-Zordon, and Mack and SK merged, it seems like he's the strongest. (Even after becoming human. I think that if they wanted, SK could change him back simply for the power-up, then back to human afterwards.)

I think that Nick's (possibly) limitless magic ability would make the Red Dragon Ranger second, if only because I think that SK would beat him in a "I can do anything" contest.

So, that leaves Connor at lonely 3.

Similar to what I thought actually, except I swapped Mac and Nick around.

[DarkProject]

Similar to what I thought actually, except I swapped Mac and Nick around.

I see what you did up there and I see it this way.

Android and Omni-Powerful Being --> Wizard Human --> Normal Human.

[Rebelde]

Conner*

:p

[Super Jeff]

MAc I can see being more powerful. Not sure about Nick, he seemed strong but not as strong as Connor or Mac.

[Razor]

MAc I can see being more powerful. Not sure about Nick, he seemed strong but not as strong as Connor or Mac.

This is where we disagree, Jeff. Mac was strong as an android. Once he became human, he became no different than any other core 5 ranger. I agree with whoever said Nick has infinite magic. The Tribunal of Magic gave them infinite magic when they gave them the Legend Warrior powers, didn't they?

[King]

Mack and maybe Nick>>>>>>Conner



Also Silver Ranger was the most powerful up to that point.

says who?

The more power-ups you need, the weaker you are.

Not true. A lot of it has to do with how strong the opponent is. Also, some teams didn't really need it but ended up getting it anyway. That doesn't make them weaker, just luckier then some other teams.

[3eazy]

This is where we disagree, Jeff. Mac was strong as an android. Once he became human, he became no different than any other core 5 ranger. I agree with whoever said Nick has infinite magic. The Tribunal of Magic gave them infinite magic when they gave them the Legend Warrior powers, didn't they?

The Mystic Force's Magic Is Unlimited But Mack Is Still Strong In My Opinion. Conner Is One Strong Red Ranger But In A Fight I Think Nick Could Beat Him. (I Don't Know Just Me)

[Jiemusu]

says who?


Well I look at it this way.

PRIS states Zhane, at that point, as the most powerful ranger known.

But later, other ranger powers became known or created, such as Mystic Force with their potential for unlimited magic including MisNICK's Force as the almsot unstoppable Red Dragon Fire Ranger, Connor with his incredibly dosed up Triassic Ranger powers WITH a battlizer added for lulz, and Mac's battlizer that's not only impossible for humans to wield but it merges Mac directly with a being that's Disney plotdevice personified (broken powers? *zap* no more, I am God!)

Zhane as the Silver Ranger is very powerful, but without having any nociable differences that put him LEAGUES above others (just on top of the same league) and without doning anything extra like a battlizer or supernatural like magic or something that's impossible or too powerful for humans to wield, I find it hard to believe Zhane is more powerful than Mac, Nick hell even Conner.

[King]

Well I look at it this way.

PRIS states Zhane, at that point, as the most powerful ranger known.

.

when and what episode?

100 bucks to anybody who can find me that quote within the series.

[Jiemusu]

when and what episode?

100 bucks to anybody who can find me that quote within the series.

As noobish as it sounds, I remember it being said but I can't remember the episode or number.

I know that sounds bad.

That's why I'm rewatching PRIS to find out exactly.

Fairly sure it was stated, but we'll see what happens.

[King]

you cant remember it because it was never said

astronema called him "one of" the most powerful but nobody ever called him "the" most powerful.

[Jiemusu]

Potato, potatoe.

You can nitpick if you wish, but in the end it comes down to one thing. Zhane's silver ranger powers, at that point, were one of the strongest ranger powers ever, currently known.

And I never even said he was the strongest anyway, I said that Connor, Nick and Mac were all stronger than him. It's just Zhane was the strongest known at that point. I don't really see why you're taking this further.

[Razor]

Potato, potatoe.

You can nitpick if you wish, but in the end it comes down to one thing. Zhane's silver ranger powers, at that point, were one of the strongest ranger powers ever, currently known.

And I never even said he was the strongest anyway, I said that Connor, Nick and Mac were all stronger than him. It's just Zhane was the strongest known at that point. I don't really see why you're taking this further.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't someone say the same thing about Ryan in Lightspeed Rescue?

[DarkProject]

Potato, potatoe.

You can nitpick if you wish, but in the end it comes down to one thing. Zhane's silver ranger powers, at that point, were one of the strongest ranger powers ever, currently known.

And I never even said he was the strongest anyway, I said that Connor, Nick and Mac were all stronger than him. It's just Zhane was the strongest known at that point. I don't really see why you're taking this further.

I agree with what was said about Zhane, although I couldn't find it on Rovang. Either way, I would suggest not feeding King of the trolls over there.

[eraofdinothunder4eva]

king, lets face it pris did state that zhane is the strongest ranger. as for this discussion who knows if zhane indeed is the strongest..

[MegaWinger]

I disagree with Conner being the strongest. No one can truly state which one is stronger but only take a side based on evidence however another people could take that evidence and state an opposition to it.

- I could say Zhane is the strongest because of his hype of being one of th strongest and potentially the strongest, another person could disagree with that and say no Nick is in fact the strongest.

So Conner being the strongest maybe but you can't say for sure.

[Super Jeff]

True Megawinger while we can't say for sure, to me though he is undoubtfully probably one of the stoingest rangers out there.

[MegaWinger]

That's why I love debates, such as this one, they make for great discussion, or essays.

I I think he is up there myself but I don;t like his character so its painful to say he is up there.

[Super Jeff]

I admit I didn't like connor my first run in the series. However when I rewatched the series he is still hard to like in the begining but he ended up getting better when the series progressed. He while still a sterotypical dumb jock, he became more caring for his freinds and learned how to be a better leader. While not the official leader because of Tommy he did help lead the team to victory in many battles. I admit the series gave him to many power ups but he still became a better character near the end.

[MegaWinger]

Well, power ups don';t really show how strong a character is with out it, its unfair to say he is weaker because of them or stronger since any ranger regardless of color did not have a Batilizer before IS (Sure you have the Metallic armor but I don't count that.)

Yeah he is a Jock and I normally don;t like Jocks in shows or in real life so its more of prejudice on my part, maybe if I want DT again I'll like him more but who knows until i do.

[Super Jeff]

Well rewatching a series helps me. Like I hated Rocky when he first appeared, but when I rewatched it, I enjoyed his character. Sometime watching a series more then once can give you better understanding of the character, but that is just me though.

[MegaWinger]

No your correct it does, also its a source of entertainment.

As for Rocky I enjoyed him almost from the get go, I was hoping he'll beocme a ranger but I was upset when he replaced Jason though Rocky is a better second in command ranger then Jason since Jason had more of a leader quality to him.

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Also one could ague that Time force's Quantum Ranger is the strongest since by the year 3000 advancements in technology would be significant. But I don't think he is just put forth a thought I had.

[Green Elephant]

It didn't need to be stated that Zhane was the strongest for him to be such

Reasoning:

In every Zordon-era season of PR, the Rangers get an upgrade, making that season's powers stronger than any of those before it. As the final Zordon-era season, the Space powers were the strongest to that point.

Sixth Rangers are always stronger than any individual member of the core team without a group powerup in effect (except possibly Red if he has a Battlizer, which at the time Andross did not). Zhane is the Sixth Ranger of Space

Therefore, Zhane was the most powerful Ranger up to that point. Since the series have not carried over since Space (making relative power debatable) and the Battlizers and the like have become so prevalent, that rank is up for debate currently.

[King]

Potato, potatoe.

It's just Zhane was the strongest known at that point.

Its not potato potatoe. It's apples and oranges. Their is a difference between being "one of the strongest" and "the strongest". Being "one of the strongest" does not equal "the strongest known at that point"..You telling me out of all the rangers we've seen up to that point the strongest one was the dude that got hurt so bad he was in a coma for 2 years? lol


lets face it pris did state that zhane is the strongest ranger.

Thats not what was stated. Again, their is a difference between the strongest and one of the strongest.

[Jiemusu]

What amazes me is, not once did I EVER say Zhane was the strongest ranger ever.

In fact if you cared to look closely, you'll see I was actually saying Zhane wasn't.

Key detail in bold.

Connor is easily far more powerful as Triassic Ranger than Trent is as White Ranger.

Also Silver Ranger was the most powerful up to that point, anything after hasn't really been explained.

Well I look at it this way.

PRIS states Zhane, at that point, as the most powerful ranger known.

But later, other ranger powers became known or created, such as Mystic Force with their potential for unlimited magic including MisNICK's Force as the almsot unstoppable Red Dragon Fire Ranger, Connor with his incredibly dosed up Triassic Ranger powers WITH a battlizer added for lulz, and Mac's battlizer that's not only impossible for humans to wield but it merges Mac directly with a being that's Disney plotdevice personified (broken powers? *zap* no more, I am God!)

Zhane as the Silver Ranger is very powerful, but without having any nociable differences that put him LEAGUES above others (just on top of the same league) and without doning anything extra like a battlizer or supernatural like magic or something that's impossible or too powerful for humans to wield, I find it hard to believe Zhane is more powerful than Mac, Nick hell even Conner.

Potato, potatoe.

You can nitpick if you wish, but in the end it comes down to one thing. Zhane's silver ranger powers, at that point, were one of the strongest ranger powers ever, currently known.

And I never even said he was the strongest anyway, I said that Connor, Nick and Mac were all stronger than him. It's just Zhane was the strongest known at that point. I don't really see why you're taking this further.

So really, you're pretty much putting words into my mouth that I didn't even say, just for the sake of arguing.

[King]

What amazes me is, not once did I EVER say Zhane was the strongest ranger ever.

In fact if you cared to look closely, you'll see I was actually saying Zhane wasn't.

Key detail in bold.







So really, you're pretty much putting words into my mouth that I didn't even say, just for the sake of arguing.

What amazes me is the fact that I never said you said that and yet your saying that I did.

Quote me saying you called him the strongest ever. Hell, my previous post specifically said up to that point. You are the one putting words in my mouth.

I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm arguing because everybody twists the quote made in that episode to say he was "the strongest" when they said "one of the strongest".

[Red Master]

DarkProject
Android and Omni-Powerful Being --> Wizard Human --> Normal Human.

Omni-powerful is streching it dude.If he was that powerful nobody would have been able to get the crown at all.

Android and Ancient Magical Guradian(fused with)Ancient Goddess Sword --> Wizard Human --> Normal Human. Is more correct.

[eraofdinothunder4eva]

nobody mentioned tommy? cause i just remembered he took down a giant without the zords. wind strike, land strike, wave strike;etc that can knock out any rangers

[Green Mystic Ranger]

The more power-ups you need, the weaker you are.

This is true. I though Connor was a great red ranger in the first few episodes, but once he started getting power hungry, I hated him with passion. :D

[Super Jeff]

nobody mentioned tommy? cause i just remembered he took down a giant without the zords. wind strike, land strike, wave strike;etc that can knock out any rangers

Oh Tommy's strong but not as strong as Mac, Nick, and Connor.

[Jiemusu]

What amazes me is the fact that I never said you said that and yet your saying that I did.

Oh really?

Then why are you even arguing with me anyway, if we both agreed Zhane wasn't the strongest ever but one of the most powerful up to that point lol?

Never accused me? Hell, I can do it in the post you just made.

I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm arguing because everybody twists the quote made in that episode to say he was "the strongest" when they said "one of the strongest".

So by this logic, you're arguing with me because you think I'm one of the people that aren't placing a distinction between the strongest or one of the strongest.

Then above you said that you're amazed when I suggested you were accusing me of thinking Zhane is the strongest ever, which you denied.

If you denied it, then you wouldn't be arguing with me (the strongest =/= one of the strongest)

If you're arguing, then you would'e be denying the accusation you made by putting the words 'I think Zhane is the strongest ever' into my mouth, when I never said, or thought.

You're doing both, it doesn't really make much sense. And because of that, it seems you're arguing just for the sake of arguing.

One or the other.

Like you said, apples and oranges.

Personally, it sounds to me like you're the one that needs to take a closer look at the distinction between "the strongest" and "one of the strongest", otherwise we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Because Zhane being "the strongest ever" is not something I ever said. So I really can't see the point in this. You've no reason to carry this on because you said you're reasoning for this discussion is because people don't know the distinction between Zhane being ONE of the strongest or THE strongst, and Zhane being THE strongest ever is not a view I hold or ever held, (so you are putting words in my mouth) so we'll just be going in circles.

[King]

Oh really?

Then why are you even arguing with me anyway, if we both agreed Zhane wasn't the strongest ever but one of the most powerful up to that point lol?



We both agreed that Zhane wasn't the strongest ever (and somehow you thought I claimed you said he was the strongest ever in the first place). But in your previous posts you didn't make the distinction between zhane being the most powerful and one of the most powerful. For whatever reason you are doing so in this particular quote (the bolded) but earlier you didn't. And before you go off saying you did and I am just putting words in your mouth, lets check out your previous posts....



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PRIS states Zhane, at that point, as the most powerful ranger known.





Also Silver Ranger was the most powerful up to that point.

Potato, potatoe.

You can nitpick if you wish, but in the end it comes down to one thing. Zhane's silver ranger powers, at that point, were one of the strongest ranger powers ever, currently known.

And I never even said he was the strongest anyway, I said that Connor, Nick and Mac were all stronger than him. It's just Zhane was the strongest known at that point. I don't really see why you're taking this further.

And by the way, this post seems to be the one where you first thought I said you were claiming he was the strongest ever. Go back and you'll notice the quote your referencing never said that. It was simply correcting you on what was said in that episode.

you're arguing with me because you think I'm one of the people that aren't placing a distinction between the strongest or one of the strongest.

Yes, I do think you are one of the people...... Why? Because I read your quotes from above.

Because Zhane being "the strongest ever" is not something I ever said. So I really can't see the point in this. You've no reason to carry this on because you said you're reasoning for this discussion is because people don't know the distinction between Zhane being ONE of the strongest or THE strongst, and Zhane being THE strongest ever is not a view I hold or ever held, (so you are putting words in my mouth) so we'll just be going in circles.

Again, I never put those words in your mouth. If I did, quote me doing it. Quote me saying "you think he is the strongest ever". You came at me out of nowhere claiming I said you're calling him the strongest ever based off of these two quotes....

you cant remember it because it was never said

astronema called him "one of" the most powerful but nobody ever called him "the" most powerful.

^^^Me simply clarifying what was said in that episode (and by the way, I think the monster said it not astronema but im not totally sure)

Its not potato potatoe. It's apples and oranges. Their is a difference between being "one of the strongest" and "the strongest". Being "one of the strongest" does not equal "the strongest known at that point"..You telling me out of all the rangers we've seen up to that point the strongest one was the dude that got hurt so bad he was in a coma for 2 years? lol

Notice I said "at that point" in the very quote where you tried to claim I said you said he was the strongest ever.

[Titanium Ranger]

Connor is easily far more powerful as Triassic Ranger than Trent is as White Ranger.


Trent as the White Ranger, couldn't even handle Elsa in one battle I recall. Trent as the evil white ranger is another story... just thought I'd say that :p

Connor could be right up there with the strongest. To be honest though, I never really acknowledged Nick's potential for infinite magic... he was only the Light or whatever. Though I liked the character, he was just another Red Ranger IMO. Besides, just because he has the potential doesn't mean he can tap into it whenever he wants (unless I need to rewatch MF...)For all we know, Connor could finish him off before he started tapping into the magic..
As for Mack, well, it was only a battlizer which humans couldn't take on, but that doesn't end the argument. Humans also cannot be charged up by electricity... electronics can, so it seemed to be more along the technological lines rather than strength. Even when you put all that aside, Connor has his power up mode for starters, Triassic Ranger powers for the actual battle and if it really got down to it, the battlizer to boot. He'd have quite a chance in a fight...

[eraofdinothunder4eva]

trent cant beat elsa during the period where there was the evil white ranger. he was stronger then trent(he could do super dino mode), which means that the morphing grid was being unfair to trent during the evil white ranger period

[War's Paladin]

To end this discussion: Take a list of all Kamen Riders, and put their names in a hat.

One signature move from any of those riders will take out a ranger.

And, nobody can prove that the Triassic Ranger is stronger than the Quantum Ranger, or the Mercury Ranger, or any other 6th ranger. Because, for all we know, the Dino Thunder rangers got the weakest batch of enemies.

[eraofdinothunder4eva]

dude.. if we wanted the discussion to end like this this tread would never have been started. obviously there was gonna be things like "how come he cant beat him" crap; that is why this tread was started

[Super Jeff]

To end this discussion: Take a list of all Kamen Riders, and put their names in a hat.

One signature move from any of those riders will take out a ranger.

And, nobody can prove that the Triassic Ranger is stronger than the Quantum Ranger, or the Mercury Ranger, or any other 6th ranger. Because, for all we know, the Dino Thunder rangers got the weakest batch of enemies.

That is not true as Lothor was beaten by mesagog. And if I remember correctly Lothor was ging the Ninja Storm rangers a fight for their money.

[War's Paladin]

Now someone prove me wrong about the Quantum Ranger/Mercury Ranger theory, please?

And, all that really means is that the Ninja Storm rangers are weaker than Dino Thunder. Nobody's saying the Ninja Storm are stronger than every team before (and after) them.

[Jiemusu]

And, nobody can prove that the Triassic Ranger is stronger than the Quantum Ranger, or the Mercury Ranger, or any other 6th ranger. Because, for all we know, the Dino Thunder rangers got the weakest batch of enemies.

How does that work?

You can't prove that the quantum ranger or mercury ranger, or any other 6th ranger, is stronger than triassic ranger obviously then, I presume.

Why should we prove something if you're not? It's not up to us to prove you wrong, you're devianting away from the original question, it's up to you to prove yourself right. Works both ways.

The thread's question is whether Connor is the strongest, not wether he's weaker than some.

Mac wielded power that's considered too powerful for humans, Mac is stronger than all human rangers.

Nick apparently is some kind of prophecy that has unlimited magic, in fact potentially all Mystic Force warriors do.

Connor not only has the red ranger powers, but the triassic ranger powers which were actually powered by the ranger energies of all Dino Thunder rangers (red rangers, blue ranger, yellow ranger, black ranger, white ranger) all within the same shield, then they added a battlizer to that. Now, even if the Dino Thunder powers are SO weak, when they're all added up like that, they're not going to be as weak as you're making out anymore, and if they still are in your eyes, you're creating a FAR too bigger gap. If the DT rangers were that weak, they wouldn't survive any battles, if they were THAT weak... they wouldn't even be used of risk of putting the rangers in hazard without justified protection.

Nothing proves mercury ranger being stronger than triassic ranger either.

And for the quantum ranger, we're now comparing the triassic ranger to the quantum ranger, as both recieve a battlizer later.

Now, we know that triassic ranger has powers from red, blue, yellow, black and white rangers, and displays amazing feats such as creating a dimension out of nowhere or at least opening a portal to it where he's practically godmodded.

Justify quantum ranger, go.

[Super Jeff]

Now someone prove me wrong about the Quantum Ranger/Mercury Ranger theory, please?

And, all that really means is that the Ninja Storm rangers are weaker than Dino Thunder. Nobody's saying the Ninja Storm are stronger than every team before (and after) them.

I never said the ninja storm rangers were stronger then other teams. They were formidable yes and they gave the DT rangers a fight for their money when they were fighting eachother.

Anyways I like to believe when each season starts fresh, every ranger are on the same level of power. It isn't until they add new new rangers and power ups that make each team powerful then another.

[Jiemusu]

Still waiting for War's Paladin to prove the quantum ranger is stronger than the triassic ranger.

See how I turned it? :D

[King]

I'm still waitin on you to provide the quote where I said you said Zhane was the strongest ever :D.

Anyway, Triassic ranger is more powerful than the quantum ranger but if the quantum ranger can take out a full grown monster im sure he could do the same to Triassic ranger.

[Jiemusu]

I'm still waitin on you to provide the quote where I said you said Zhane was the strongest ever :D.

You hinted that I thought it throughout (which I've already quoted above), otherwise you wouldn't have started arguing, because you'd have no reason to.

Anyway, Triassic ranger is more powerful than the quantum ranger but if the quantum ranger can take out a full grown monster im sure he could do the same to Triassic ranger.

Depends on Connor's state.

I mean Eric is tenfold the badass Connor is. but in terms of their powers maxed out however, Connor is ahead, but only if he uses them right, Eric is pretty confident in his ability, while Connor was too much of a goof to be given the role he got, so Connor needs to be on the ball.

If Connor uses his powers right, he should, in theory, be able to thrash Eric, but it comes down to Connor doing a good job.

[Razor]

If Connor uses his powers right, he should, in theory, be able to thrash Eric, but it comes down to Connor doing a good job.

I don't know about that. Eric's got that military-ish training with the Silver Guardians, while Connor was a mere teenager. I think it might come down to experience and training, in which case, Eric would still kick Connor's pubescent butt.

[Jiemusu]

I don't know about that. Eric's got that military-ish training with the Silver Guardians, while Connor was a mere teenager. I think it might come down to experience and training, in which case, Eric would still kick Connor's pubescent butt.

That's what I mean. In theory, Connor's powers SHOULD give him an easy win, but don't get me wrong... Eric as a person is genuinly more badass and focused than the goof that Connor is.

If they both act normally, I'm pretty sure Eric would get the upper hand, but Connor has the potential to thrash Eric with those powers, he just needs to actually try, he has the power, he just needs to use it.

[King]

You hinted that I thought it throughout (which I've already quoted above), otherwise you wouldn't have started arguing, because you'd have no reason to.





The reason I had to argue was because you didn't make the distinction between "one of" the strongest up to that point and "the" strongest up to that point.

I never hinted that you said he was the strongest ever. The post where you went off about thinking I said that you thought he was the strongest ever was followed by me specifically saying "up to that point".

my post......

Its not potato potatoe. It's apples and oranges. Their is a difference between being "one of the strongest" and "the strongest". Being "one of the strongest" does not equal "the strongest known at that point"..You telling me out of all the rangers we've seen up to that point the strongest one was the dude that got hurt so bad he was in a coma for 2 years? lol

your response......

What amazes me is, not once did I EVER say Zhane was the strongest ranger ever.

In fact if you cared to look closely, you'll see I was actually saying Zhane wasn't.

Key detail in bold.

So really, you're pretty much putting words into my mouth that I didn't even say, just for the sake of arguing.

Notice the part you bolded after saying "key detail in bold" is the exact same terms I used in my post ("known up to that point", "up to that point").

But its cool if you don't wanna admit that you put words in my mouth. I understand :p

[Jiemusu]

I never hinted that you said he was the strongest ever. The post where you went off about thinking I said that you thought he was the strongest ever was followed by me specifically saying "up to that point".

my post......



your response......



Notice the part you bolded after saying "key detail in bold" is the exact same terms I used in my post ("known up to that point", "up to that point").

But its cool if you don't wanna admit that you put words in my mouth. I understand :p

I don't know why you're trying so hard to push this lol.

We both agreed a long time ago that Zhane was known as one of the most powerful rangers ever, but wasn't THE MOST powerful, and we both knew that distinction.

If we both knew the distinction, and knew each other knew the distinction, you would have no real reason to take the argument further.

It's just going round in circles now.

[King]

Up to that point he was known as one of the most powerful. But you didn't say that. You said he was the most powerful known at the time. Maybe you didn't mean that and that's why you don't know why were arguing, but thats what you said....

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PRIS states Zhane, at that point, as the most powerful ranger known.





Also Silver Ranger was the most powerful up to that point.

Potato, potatoe.

You can nitpick if you wish, but in the end it comes down to one thing. Zhane's silver ranger powers, at that point, were one of the strongest ranger powers ever, currently known.

And I never even said he was the strongest anyway, I said that Connor, Nick and Mac were all stronger than him. It's just Zhane was the strongest known at that point. I don't really see why you're taking this further.

[Razor]

That's what I mean. In theory, Connor's powers SHOULD give him an easy win, but don't get me wrong... Eric as a person is genuinly more badass and focused than the goof that Connor is.

If they both act normally, I'm pretty sure Eric would get the upper hand, but Connor has the potential to thrash Eric with those powers, he just needs to actually try, he has the power, he just needs to use it.

Agreed. Connor could be devastating with his powers, but on the other hand, Eric just seemed to be a never-say-die survivor. Perhaps it would come down to a battle of wills?

[King]

. Perhaps it would come down to a battle of wills?

in which conner would lose unless a pretty girl was watching lol

[Razor]

in which conner would lose unless a pretty girl was watching lol

Naw. I think a girl would distract him, thereby giving Eric the open to move in and finish Connor.

[Jiemusu]

Up to that point he was known as one of the most powerful. But you didn't say that. You said he was the most powerful known at the time. Maybe you didn't mean that and that's why you don't know why were arguing, but thats what you said....

You already typed the answer you were looking for.

Zhane was the most powerful known at that point in time, not ever, just the most out of what was known.

Since the known powers before him where MMPR, in which the white ranger was the strongest, then the zeo powers which were stronger than the white ranger, and the gold ranger and turbo powers were stronger than the zeo ones, the silver ranger was the strongest in terms of what powers were known up to that point, disregarding anything after that. As stronger rangers would later come, Mac, Connor, Eric, Nick etc, but they were not known or possibly even created at that point.

[King]

You already typed the answer you were looking for.

Zhane was the most powerful known at that point in time, not ever, just the most out of what was known.

Since the known powers before him where MMPR, in which the white ranger was the strongest, then the zeo powers which were stronger than the white ranger, and the gold ranger and turbo powers were stronger than the zeo ones, the silver ranger was the strongest in terms of what powers were known up to that point, disregarding anything after that. As stronger rangers would later come, Mac, Connor, Eric, Nick etc, but they were not known or possibly even created at that point.

And thats where the argument lies because he was never said to be the most powerful known at that time. How do you know he is more powerful than the gold ranger or the Phantom ranger?

Plus, the turbo powers aren't stronger than the Zeo powers (as far as we know). They could be just as powerful or less. Only the zords were said to be stronger.