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Psycho Silver
04-02-2009, 01:41 AM
I saw a few threads similar to this one asking about unappreciated or ignored rangers in general. I wanted to be more specific and figure out which red rangers people felt were ignored or didn't get enough credit. So which red ranger or rangers do you feel were unappreciated?

I will start with a couple then we will go from there.

1. Jack (SPD)- I think Jack is definitely overlooked as being a good red ranger. Everyone always talks about how Sky would and did make an awesome red and how Bridge was cool as the red ranger, but what about Jack? He is the one who started it all, the first B-squad red ranger. Considering how little training he had compared to Sky, Bridge, and Syd I thought he did a great job at SPD especially as red ranger.

2. Wes (TF)- I believe that Wes also doesn't get as much credit as he should. IMO Wes is one of the best red rangers. He had a little trouble starting out, but who doesn't. He taught his team that no matter what happened they could choose their own fates. In the process he managed to change the future several times.

Super Jeff
04-02-2009, 01:49 AM
Rocky Definetly as he was over shadowed by Jason. I admit I didn't like Rocky at first but when I started to rewatch some episodes he was a good ranger. Also when he first became a ranger they trusted him to go head to head with a giant monster. They could of had Tommy do it but no they trusted Rocky with his new powers to take on the giant monster.

MegaWinger
04-02-2009, 02:02 AM
Rocky by far is the most unappreciated red when compared to other Red Rangers such as Jason who's shoes seemed too big for Rocky to fill to some, and Tommy. He is a very good Ranger most certainly one of the best. He was not the leader type as Jason was but by that time Tommy was leader anyway. Rocky gave a fun character series he deserves more credit. He should not have people comparing him to Jason saying he was a bad red ranger he too me was the only one of the 3 replacement Rangers who had it that bad when being compared to the former one. Adam had it the least even succeeding Zack to some people, Rocky was not so lucky not even close.

Jiemusu
04-02-2009, 02:55 AM
As soon as I saw the thread title. I thought Rocky.

1. Jack (SPD)- I think Jack is definitely overlooked as being a good red ranger. Everyone always talks about how Sky would and did make an awesome red and how Bridge was cool as the red ranger, but what about Jack? He is the one who started it all, the first B-squad red ranger. Considering how little training he had compared to Sky, Bridge, and Syd I thought he did a great job at SPD especially as red ranger.

On a personal level, I just never really warmed to Jack as a character.

I can't speak for others but a large part to why I dislike Jack as red, for the similar reasons to how I used to feel about Tommy being white, is because he didn't earn it. He was just given it, and then required to make up for not earning it later. It's to do with having a higher status or class assigned to certain people from the very start, no matter what they do or how they act, it's bias. That's wrong, in my eyes, being a Marxist. So that's a personal reason why I never really liked Jack.

Him getting less training is even more reason why he shouldn't have been squad leader.

Hell, for some time he didn't even KNOW he was squad leader.

2. Wes (TF)- I believe that Wes also doesn't get as much credit as he should. IMO Wes is one of the best red rangers. He had a little trouble starting out, but who doesn't. He taught his team that no matter what happened they could choose their own fates. In the process he managed to change the future several times.

Wes, along with Jason, is what I believe to be the personification of all that a Red Ranger should be. He lacks nothing concerning being a Red Ranger. But where did you get that he was unappreciated?

As far as I see it, he saved time, and is appreciated a great deal for it.

Rocky Definetly as he was over shadowed by Jason. I admit I didn't like Rocky at first but when I started to rewatch some episodes he was a good ranger. Also when he first became a ranger they trusted him to go head to head with a giant monster. They could of had Tommy do it but no they trusted Rocky with his new powers to take on the giant monster.

Rocky, easily.

People constantly said "Oooh he's not Jason therefore he's rubbish" and didn't do the same with Adam replacing Zack. People don't judge Adam based on Zack, they judge Adam based on Adam. Yet for Rocky, they keep feeling the need to judge HIS personality on someone else. For that reason alone, he's pretty unappreciated, simply for being... well, himself.

People, it's a different character.

Rocky by far is the most unappreciated red when compared to other Red Rangers such as Jason who's shoes seemed too big for Rocky to fill to some, and Tommy. He is a very good Ranger most certainly one of the best. He was not the leader type as Jason was but by that time Tommy was leader anyway. Rocky gave a fun character series he deserves more credit. He should not have people comparing him to Jason saying he was a bad red ranger he too me was the only one of the 3 replacement Rangers who had it that bad when being compared to the former one. Adam had it the least even succeeding Zack to some people, Rocky was not so lucky not even close.

This, ditto'd.

DaiRed
04-02-2009, 03:01 AM
Rocky, Aurico, Carter, and Cole.

Jiemusu
04-02-2009, 03:08 AM
Rocky, Aurico, Carter, and Cole.

Actually, yeah, Carter and Cole are good choices.

Carter, generally being a badass with a firearm, venturing to hell, and being the only likable Ranger in Lightspeed Rescue (for me), he's definitly unappreciated for what he is.

Cole as well, as much as people hate him he single handedly destroyed Serpenterra (which not even Jason Lee Scott or Tommy Oliver could do for christ sake) ALONE using just a normal size bike. You can't ignore that.

Green Elephant
04-02-2009, 03:47 AM
Of course you underappreciate Rocky and Aurico
Rocky was the replacement for Jason and never got to be leader (Tommy overshadows just about everyone around him), the only Red Ranger who never led. While Adam and Aisha pretty much took on similar roles to the people they replaced, Rocky's role was radically different than Jason's.
Aurico (and the AR's in general) were just stand-ins for the true MMPR as children.

Rocky and Aurico are both stand-in Reds.

Super Jeff
04-02-2009, 03:59 AM
Maybe Mac, he found out he was android and it was tough for him and even himself almost gave up if it wasn't for spencer. After tough fights he knew he had to almost risk himself to save his freinds. He unselfishly gave his life to defeat Flurious. Although he did get revived into a human.

Psycho Silver
04-02-2009, 04:10 AM
As soon as I saw the thread title. I thought Rocky.



On a personal level, I just never really warmed to Jack as a character.

I can't speak for others but a large part to why I dislike Jack as red, for the similar reasons to how I used to feel about Tommy being white, is because he didn't earn it. He was just given it, and then required to make up for not earning it later. It's to do with having a higher status or class assigned to certain people from the very start, no matter what they do or how they act, it's bias. That's wrong, in my eyes, being a Marxist. So that's a personal reason why I never really liked Jack.

Him getting less training is even more reason why he shouldn't have been squad leader.

Hell, for some time he didn't even KNOW he was squad leader.

The whole it being given to them without them earning it and having a higher status happens with most of the red rangers. The only example where this doesn't apply as much is Carter. He was a firefighter and risked his life to save others before he became a ranger. There may be other examples where someone "earned" the privilege of being red ranger before actually becoming red ranger, but that is the only one I can think of at this time. Usually what happens is the group walks in and one is picked over the rest to be the leader of the team. As far as SPD is concerned none of them were really red ranger material at the beginning, especially Sky which I have heard many people say he should have gotten it from the start. Jack however was IMO the best choice for red ranger attitude wise. He made up for the lack of training a few episodes into the season. As I said earlier none of them really had the experience to be considered red ranger material. Jack just had less to make up for in the long run.


Wes, along with Jason, is what I believe to be the personification of all that a Red Ranger should be. He lacks nothing concerning being a Red Ranger. But where did you get that he was unappreciated?

As far as I see it, he saved time, and is appreciated a great deal for it.

I agree, Wes was what all red rangers should aspire to be. I put him as unappreciated because the only red rangers I hear people talking about is Jason, Andros, Casey, and Conner. Not saying that they shouldn't be mentioned, but what about the others who deserve to be mentioned as well. As I said earlier Wes was definitely one of the best red rangers.

Jiemusu
04-02-2009, 04:17 AM
I suppose you could loosely say that Wes came from the same season as Jen, who people overhype like HELL. But the more Timeforce progressed, Jen took more of a backseat and Wes stepped up. So she was pretty much just "holding the place" until Wes was ready.

Psycho Silver
04-02-2009, 04:18 AM
I forgot about TJ. People mention TJ being the red turbo ranger quite frequently, but most of the time it is something bad or negative.

As far as Rocky and Cole are concerned I agree that they were pretty decent red rangers. Rocky doesn't get much credit for being red ranger because he was overshadowed by Tommy.

Jiemusu
04-02-2009, 04:22 AM
I honestly didn't think TJ was that bad of a leader, I mean he didn't do anything that Tommy didn't already do himself.

TJ just lacked the experience, but he gave it his best shot, and that's all you can really do!

Psycho Silver
04-02-2009, 04:31 AM
I honestly didn't think TJ was that bad of a leader, I mean he didn't do anything that Tommy didn't already do himself.

TJ just lacked the experience, but he gave it his best shot, and that's all you can really do!

I completely agree. I just added him because it seems to me that he always gets the credit for everything that went wrong that season, but not the things that went well. This could be because at the end of the season the rangers technically lost, but that isn't really his fault.

Super Jeff
04-02-2009, 06:48 PM
TJ was a good ranger, he made the tough decsision to destroy the megazords to defeat the monster. Even though it didn't work he did have another plan and it worked that time.

ForeverBlue
04-02-2009, 06:59 PM
I go for Rocky the most ignored Red Ranger

TokuFan
04-02-2009, 07:16 PM
1.Rocky
He was funny in the Pachinko episode.
2.Turbo Tommy
He had to put up with Alpha 6,Dimitria and Justin.
3.TJ
He was quite cool.
3.Wes
He stopped time ripping apart,which kills everybody.Andros only stopped the world being enslaved by Astronema,which doesn't.
4.Cole
He forgave Master Org. A bit of a Jesus allegory,but still.
5.Hunter
Hunter's really cool and nobody's really noticed.
6.Jack
He had to put up with Sky all series. He shouldn't have given Sky the morpher though.
7.Leanbow
Same as Hunter.
8.Mack
Not exactly up to Satoru standard,but he had the sense to stop that freak leading the team.
9.Casey
He's the only one of those 3 who didn't get a girl or boy. Dom's just the bad older boy who doesn't want commitment and Casey,the one who REALLY cares about her,is left standing there.

Green Mystic Ranger
04-02-2009, 07:44 PM
I agree with the people here who think Rocky was unappreciated. Him taking over from Jason will always be the most talked about ranger passing. Jason has and always will overshadow Rocky which sucks because Rocky was such a great red ranger.

Mustang3173
04-02-2009, 07:55 PM
You could argue that Acuro was unappreciated, but in fact he didn't really do much to gain appreciation. He could've at least gotten one episode for himself in the mini-series.

I've noticed a recent trend of claiming Carter to be unappreciated. It seems like a lot of people really like Carter, and they are right to admire him. He earned his powers, unlike some rangers, and used them to stop the demon invasion.

Rocky, it's been said here already.

Cole, he may have been a hippie, but he did destroy Serpenterra.

ZeoX
04-02-2009, 08:00 PM
....
Leo: no one ever mentions him. Or his bare Rambo chest. :p No but seriously, that shirt rippping bullcrap was REALLY "bad*** attitude" for a power rangers type Environment. Probably the most testosterone driven act of pointless non plot moving randomness ever occurring in PR.

MegaWinger
04-02-2009, 08:36 PM
Leo also as a another claim. He is the first ranger ever to bear blood on screen. Can't remember the episode but it was soon after Mike had come back. Any way first to show blood, now you tell me that should give him more appreciation.

Cole I agree as unappreciated he deserves more credit for what he did. He however did not deserve to destroy serpentara give that honor to all the Red Rangers not just one.

TokuFan
04-02-2009, 09:09 PM
If the other red rangers wanted to I think they would have. Jason probably thought "It's the new guy,I'd better step aside."

NekoLLX
04-04-2009, 04:46 PM
Maybe Mac, he found out he was android and it was tough for him and even himself almost gave up if it wasn't for spencer. After tough fights he knew he had to almost risk himself to save his freinds. He unselfishly gave his life to defeat Flurious. Although he did get revived into a human.

Amen, i mean he learns he's a android and he he devalues himself. I mean how many rangers do you know who were willing to

1: pilot a zord wll past their skill level because it's power was needed (The murcury ranger's zord)
2: destroy themselves in self sacrificeing self destruction to win the day in said zord
3: fight a giant monster unmorphed with only a magic sword in hand
4: take a enhanced magic sword intended for zord use to bail your freinds out of a jam
and
5: solo the imortal, invincible super evil, at the cost of your own life.

SteelSpaceRanger
04-04-2009, 08:18 PM
1)TJ
2)Jack
3)Carter
4)Leo
5)Eric
6)Hunter

Question
04-04-2009, 08:19 PM
This thread needs more Carter.

Razor
04-04-2009, 08:35 PM
Rocky
Aurico
Carter
Cole (unappreciated AND hated by a lot of people)
Hunter (his brother was more in the spotlight and everything than he was)
Casey (some people around here seem to not like him too)
Scott (unappreciated right now since it's been mostly been about Ziggy and Dillon so far)

Jiemusu
04-04-2009, 08:38 PM
Aye, we need more Carter.

Carter, generally being a badass with a firearm, venturing to hell, and being the only likable Ranger in Lightspeed Rescue (for me), he's definitly unappreciated for what he is.

TokuFan
04-04-2009, 09:33 PM
I think the general consensus is that he was a sissy because he used a gun and not his hands.

Question
04-04-2009, 09:48 PM
I think the general consensus is that he was a sissy because he used a gun and not his hands.

And I think that's a silly consensus.

If you're fighting against otherworldly demons, you do what you have to to get the job done, you don't try to inflate your ego by outpunching the opponent.

Besides, I didn't see anyone else almost condemn themselves to Hell to save the world.

NekoLLX
04-04-2009, 10:00 PM
And I think that's a silly consensus.

If you're fighting against otherworldly demons, you do what you have to to get the job done, you don't try to inflate your ego by outpunching the opponent.

Besides, I didn't see anyone else almost condemn themselves to Hell to save the world.

Well There is Leanbow who no only went to hell but got stuck there...

And Mac who killed himself to stop the bad guy (the pink lg ranger too)

Question
04-04-2009, 10:10 PM
Leanbow wasn't in Hell. He was in the Underworld. Technically. The Underworld was just a pit that that monster from the second episode dug.

And Mack came back to life. He was never in Hell.

DaiRed
04-05-2009, 02:55 AM
Leanbow wasn't in Hell. He was in the Underworld. Technically. The Underworld was just a pit that that monster from the second episode dug.

And Mack came back to life. He was never in Hell.

Underworld, Hell, same thing.

Question
04-05-2009, 03:04 AM
A cave underground is not really the same as an otherworldly monsterous afterlife.

DaiRed
04-05-2009, 03:09 AM
A cave underground is not really the same as an otherworldly monsterous afterlife.

Doesn't matter, hell is typically shown to be beneath the Earth anyway. It was hell in it's own way.

Question
04-05-2009, 03:18 AM
Okay.

It was Hell in the same way clouds are Heaven.

NekoLLX
04-05-2009, 03:23 AM
Okay.

It was Hell in the same way clouds are Heaven.

actually they made it quite clear the underworld was some sort of hell dimension and they only had limited power (at the start) to reach the human world.

And yes Mac never went to hell but suicide is pretty close to "going to hell' in the "DYAM!" department.

Question
04-05-2009, 03:29 AM
The third episode had the giant worm that dug the Pit dig up and attack the world.

There was a magical barrier, but the pit was just a hole.

NekoLLX
04-05-2009, 03:32 AM
The third episode had the giant worm that dug the Pit dig up and attack the world.

There was a magical barrier, but the pit was just a hole.

but the Pit was not the Underworld, in fact i believe it was called specificly The Pit to refer to the earth side. Rember Leaonbow in the great battle "sealed" then in the underworld, then at the beginning of MF they were comming back.

Ranger Black
04-05-2009, 12:33 PM
I agree about Jack being unappreciated as Red Ranger. Personally, i think he's one of the best. He lead B-Squad really well.

As for any others, i'd say Rocky obviously. I admit i didn't like him at first due to me bein a Jason fan. But then i started seein Rocky in his own light and by the end of season 2, i found myself likin him.

Cole is another. Yeah, ok, he was annoyin and a little TOO god modded (I mean destroyin Serpentera alone with a motorbike), but he was decent leader and good fighter.

I think Shane is a little unappreciated to. He had some cool skills as Red Ranger and also did a great job as a leader.

Last one, Nick. For some reason people don't like him. Another solid leader IMO, and his fightin abilities were awesome

Psycho Silver
04-05-2009, 04:04 PM
I agree, Shane was a great red ranger. Cole was also a good red ranger.

DaiRed
04-05-2009, 05:18 PM
Last one, Nick. For some reason people don't like him. Another solid leader IMO, and his fightin abilities were awesome

I think it was because he usually an a-hole.

Ranger Black
04-05-2009, 06:01 PM
Hmm, he DID have his A-Hole moments i admit, but he still did a good job

MegaWinger
04-05-2009, 06:46 PM
Carter is unappreciated considering he is a true red along with Wes, Leo, Jason, and Andros. As with those four Carter is the true and clear leader of the team (Though its implied with other Red Rangers). Through out each of the series take Time force for example at first Jen was the leader but Wes quickly implied his will on the team he was not handed the term leader he just took it. Then you have Space, Andros was pretty much given leader status based on his knowledge of well space and the fact it was his ship, though he did a great job as leader and trusted his team.. In MMPR Jason was not given any rank for all Zordon knew Jason could have been a bust as with the others chosen but Jason boldly took charge of the original team and later acted as Co-Leader along side Tommy. Next you have Leo who also had to earn the title leader Kai was the orderly one who could think well, Kendricks was smart, Maya had knowledge from her people about all the Galactic stuff, and Daemon well he was the Mechanic, but above all he had Mike's shadow over him for most of the beginning. Carter was sort of given the term leader but he imposed his will on the rest of the team as Wes did the next season, he boldly took charge for the team as Jason did in the past, Carter also did a very good job as leader and trusted his team. Carter is to be the only unappreciated "true red".

The_Green_Ranger
04-05-2009, 09:42 PM
I'd say TJ. TJ is literally never mentioned by fans. What little I have seen of Turbo, I liked him. He was the first black Red Ranger. I'm not sure if he was a great ranger or not because I haven't seen enough Turbo, but I liked him as a character.

Jiemusu
04-05-2009, 10:42 PM
I'd say TJ. TJ is literally never mentioned by fans. What little I have seen of Turbo, I liked him. He was the first black Red Ranger. I'm not sure if he was a great ranger or not because I haven't seen enough Turbo, but I liked him as a character.

Honestly, TJ wasn't as bad as most people make out in the grand scheme.

Two things that people grade TJ down for are that he his careless leading allowed the Megazords to be destroyed, and allowed the main villain to win.

But it's ironic how Tommy is the only other Ranger in the franchise to allow this to happen. Along with TJ, Tommy is the only Ranger who's leadership let 2 Megazords be destroyed, Thunder Megazord and Tigerzord, and also the only other ranger besides TJ who the main villains actually won against, Vile (they even needed to call Rangers in from a different planet to take over) and Zedd/Rita (they had their powers destroyed and had to even change their suits). And Tommy had more experience, and should have known better, and he still let the same things happen, yet people don't judge him as harsh as they judge TJ. Also all this happened to TJ at the same time, kinda overwhelming what with the lack of experience. Where as it happened on three seperate occasions to Tommy, so each scenario was evened out and thus easier to deal with seperately, and with more experience each of those three times should have been less overwhelming.

I'm just saying. If people are going to pick up on TJ doing that, they should probably take a closer look at who he replaced, and discover that it's not that different.

Perhaps it's the curse, past and future, of the Red Turbo suit. :D

But yeah, even if TJ was pretty bad, Tommy was too. And because people don't rank Tommy down for it, but they do TJ, that alone makes TJ unappreciated.

He wasn't even a leader for a year and had to deal with something as heavy as that in the finale to his leadership without enough experience, or anyone in his team with enough experience. I give him props for even going through with it.

MegaWinger
04-05-2009, 11:01 PM
Two things that people grade TJ down for are that he his careless leading allowed the Megazords to be destroyed, and allowed the main villain to win.

Quite unfair actrually. I mean the Thunder megazord was destroyed as Tommy was the leader why doesn't he get beef for that (as Jiemusu said above). Andros had let the Delta Megazord, and the Mega Voyager.
Carter had the Lightspeed solar destroyed while Super Train and Omega were also down.
As with those sitation the Turbo and Turbo rescue Megazords would have been destroyed regardless of who is the Red Ranger Tommy, Jason, Rocky, Wes, Leo it does not matter they would have faced the same results of TJ most likely.

Also as for the Main villain thing what would any one really be able to do agents thousands of creatures attacking you relentlessly. I mean Terra Venture had to be evacuated do the Sting Wingers their situation was very similar to the one TJ faced in Turbo but Terra Venture was not the source of their powers, the similarity is that both were over run by the enemy.

Jiemusu
04-05-2009, 11:23 PM
^ Exactly!

I'm going to go on a wild hunch here

I'm going to say that people don't dislike TJ just because of what happened the zords and powers at the end (since that happens to alot of zords/powers in the end), they dislike TJ automatically for the same reason that people dislike Rocky automatically. Because they replaced "legends".

Think about it.

Rocky replaced Jason (a Red Ranger and leader who is considered a legend and also the best by many), and got a lot of stick for it, and wasn't liked as MMPR Red for alot of people. When he became Zeo Blue, he became his own Ranger designation and thus became more liked as Blue.

TJ replaced Tommy (a Red Ranger and leader who is considered a legend and also the best by many), and got a lot of stick for it, and wasn't liked as Turbo Red for alot of people. When he became Space Blue, he became his own Ranger designation and thus became more liked as Blue.

Pattern?

I think the two are linked.

Honestly, I don't really think it's TJ himself that people hate, whoever became Red Turbo would have probably have been hated for replacing Tommy.

So they make excuses up for it to try and hide the obvious reason, blaming TJ for causing bad things to happen, which is pretty hypocritical because the person he replaced did exactly the same, but obviously they didn't think it through when they blame TJ, they just look for any reason to try and justify something else.

Makes me wonder actually, what would have happened if they went with their original plan, and made Adam the Red Turbo Ranger, rather than axe all the veteran cast.

MegaWinger
04-05-2009, 11:45 PM
If Adam became the Red Turbo Ranger they better have made TJ the Blue Turbo Ranger and get rid of Justin. Also if they did that Turbo would have been much better Adam, TJ, Carlos, Ashley, and Cassie would have made a pretty good team. Though even with Adam as leader the same results would have happened

TJ is a person I find really hard to dislike same with Rocky. Besides by Turbo Tommy was getting on my nerves I needed a change TJ was welcomed. TJ did not cause bad things to happen he was not the best leader but he was a good one and consistently took charge during in space when Andros was seen unfit. He was a good leader in his way which was a strategist but a risk taker you can;t compare him to Tommy.

Also its also kind of strange Adam replaces Zach the original black, and later becomes Zeo then turbo green. Carlos replaces Adam as Turbo Green and later becomes Space Black, like with Rocky and TJ but in reverse. (Red- Blue), (Red-Blue), (Black-Green), (Green-Black)

Question
04-05-2009, 11:54 PM
I love TJ. I love the second half of Turbo, really.

I just liked TJ better in blue.

NekoLLX
04-06-2009, 12:02 AM
you know i could tottally see Adam as Red, make a interesting fic

Green Elephant
04-06-2009, 01:09 AM
The original plan was just for Carlos and Ashley to join, replacing Tommy and Kat. Had that been the case, there never would have been a TJ or Cassie (until possibly the beginning or middle of Space, just speculating here)

MegaWinger
04-06-2009, 02:12 AM
I say they did the right thing then sort of. Justin should have still gone, and have added TJ and Cassie before Space since Zhane,Andros, TJ, Carlos, Cassie, and Ashley are an awesome team and would not want to have to wait for that team (Though I did because we needed Zhane to be reviled) but that's not my point.

Also I could also see Adam as Turbo red. Black, Green, red. He would just need white and he and Tommy will be matching.

PowerOnyx
04-06-2009, 03:46 AM
The original plan was just for Carlos and Ashley to join, replacing Tommy and Kat. Had that been the case, there never would have been a TJ or Cassie (until possibly the beginning or middle of Space, just speculating here)


TJ would have replaced Justin as Blue, thus not contradicting Space. Cassie could have been a friend Adam phoned in to help on board the ship. Possibly a friend of Billy's at NASADA.

Thus Blue would still be there.

Of course, this means Andros would Silver and be in stasis when the Rangers find a ship. Zhane is only a soldier from KO-35 who occasionally helps out.

Cassie and Alpha help the Rangers alongside DEKA.

Thus this opens for Cassie to become an American made Ranger for InSpace or a possibly later on, Pink Lost Galaxy Ranger. Or very well, in the vein of Bulk and the professor, she may have worked alongside Damon. Thus opening once again for an American made Ranger.

There's so many ways this could go.

Rocky, Aurico, Carter, and Cole.

Yep. That's all of them.

TokuFan
04-06-2009, 10:59 AM
Wait wait wait,what about Wes?

He saved time.Without him,there'd be no Cole,Shane,or anybody.They'd all be floating in nothingness. What does he get? An invitation to join the Silver Guardians.

The_Green_Ranger
04-06-2009, 09:19 PM
you know i could tottally see Adam as Red, make a interesting fic


anyone wanna photoshop Adam as Turbo Red? I'd like to see it myself :)

Question
04-06-2009, 09:53 PM
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/dkfromtk/Zeo%20Two/Zeo5Adam.jpg

TokuFan
04-06-2009, 09:56 PM
Adam:So TJ,you're gonna be the new red ranger?
TJ:Yeah.
Adam:Hey look at that.
*he steals his morpher and runs off*
TJ:Hey,come back here!

Jiemusu
04-06-2009, 09:59 PM
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/dkfromtk/Zeo%20Two/Zeo5Adam.jpg

Lol oh god... >_> I don't think I could stomach Adam leading in Zeo. At least not in Zeo, the season would be painful and dull.

At least Turbo is more excusable since he developed his character then.

He was too reserved and bland in Zeo IMO, hadn't developed yet.

Question
04-06-2009, 10:03 PM
Lol oh god... >_> I don't think I could stomach Adam leading in Zeo. At least not in Zeo, the season would be painful and dull.

At least Turbo is more excusable since he developed his character then.

He was too reserved and bland in Zeo IMO, hadn't developed yet.

Not the televised season, no. Not even y the end of Turbo, really.

I'm just referencing the fanfic I gave up on because I was not invested.

Jiemusu
04-06-2009, 10:09 PM
Not the televised season, no. Not even y the end of Turbo, really.

I'm just referencing the fanfic I gave up on because I was not invested.

Ah fair enough, I became worried then lol.

Out of interest, who was Zeo Ranger IV in this fic?

NekoLLX
04-06-2009, 10:11 PM
Ah fair enough, I became concerned about you then Question lol.

Out of interest, who was Zeo Ranger IV in this fic?

a gurl! (and a OC)

Question
04-06-2009, 10:21 PM
Out of interest, who was Zeo Ranger IV in this fic?

Xander.

It was the Once a Rangers with an OC as Zeo Ranger I because Bridge was back in the future. I wrote it solely to win a fanfic contest because I was willing to bet the judges would be fans.

(Mission accomplished!)

It should still be floating around in the fanfic section somewhere.

The_Green_Ranger
04-06-2009, 10:58 PM
I meant a Photoshop of adams face over tommy/tj's when he has the turbo red suit on and helmet off.

Titanium Ranger
04-06-2009, 11:51 PM
Rocky to some extent. He's unappreciated. He wasn't great but he wasn't bad either... just had a lot to live up to, which he couldn't. But as his own person, he was good enough.

Cole - As a character, he was definitely one of the best Red Rangers out there and the most unique. As mentioned, like it or not, he destroyed Serpentera on his own. I myself find the childishness of his character/bad acting a bit of a let down, but it makes sense with the story. He wasn't supposed to have matured enough to take on the world when he just came from the jungle.

Carter was a great Red Ranger. Yet some people don't give him credit either.

I also feel Mack was unappreciated. As a ranger and leader, he was pretty good and far as the suicidal part goes, it only made sense considering the position he found himself in.

Jiemusu
04-07-2009, 12:36 AM
Rocky to some extent. He's unappreciated. He wasn't great but he wasn't bad either... just had a lot to live up to, which he couldn't. But as his own person, he was good enough.

Hell, I'm probably the biggest Rocky fan out there, or at least a very strong candidate. And he's very unappreciated.

If the lineup of MMPR2 (second)/MMPR3 (first) was recruited by Zordon originally, people's perspective of Rocky would be a hell of a lot different.

Rocky had independant focus and characteristic, the only thing Jason really had going for him was the fact he was leader, otherwise he wouldn't have that much in his favour. I mean if Rocky was black and Adam was red (for example), Adam would be the one that was disliked for not "living up to a high standard" and Rocky would be praised for being the best thing since sliced bread.

Really, it's just down to Jason being the first leader.

Come Zeo time, Jason actually got episodes devoted to his character rather than just being linked to him being "leader" all the time. Every focus Jason had in MMPR was just about him being the "leader", nothing else. It's as if he wouldn't be much in MMPR if he wasn't the leader. But that changed in Zeo.

Cole - As a character, he was definitely one of the best Red Rangers out there and the most unique. As mentioned, like it or not, he destroyed Serpentera on his own. I myself find the childishness of his character/bad acting a bit of a let down, but it makes sense with the story. He wasn't supposed to have matured enough to take on the world when he just came from the jungle.

Exactly.

As much as I dislike Cole, the canon had him single handedly defeat a zord that the "legends" of Jason and Tommy couldn't even do.

In many ways, he reminds me of Goku.

Carter was a great Red Ranger. Yet some people don't give him credit either.

This, a thousand times this.