Return of an Old Friend...were the rangers right?

[The_Green_Ranger]

In Return of an Old Friend, were the rangers right to turn in their power coins (thus dooming the entire world to save 10 people), or should they have chosen to save the world and sacrifice their parents?

I was just watching those episodes and it dawned upon me, that maybe they didn't make the right choice and how hard of a choice that would be. I think my Mom would rather sacrifice herself to save billions than to know that I handed all my powers over to an evil force and potentially setting thee world up for billions and them to die anyway.

[Turbo_Red]

IMO there's no wrong decision in a situation like that. That is a very difficult decision to make and if I'm faced with that choice I probably make the same one. It's like asking a parent to kill their kid if it's going to save a hospital full of kids. If the parent doesn't want to kill their kid, then it's not a "wrong" choice on their part. Maybe not a popular one, but certainly not the wrong one.

[Beta Ranger]

Maybe I'm just more cynical then Turbo Red but I see it as totally the opposite, there is no right choice in that situation. Whichever choice you make you'd be sure you made the wrong choice. Saying that though if you can't get it right you can't get it wrong either as wrong can only exist if there is a chance to be right. Maybe Jason led them into that desicion knowing he still had the Dragon coin and planning to use it to get the other coins back. If that was his plan it was risky but I applaud his forethought.

[Question]

They made the absolute wrong choice, but it was understandable. They were children at the time, just beginning high school, and faced with the prospect of losing their parents. It was a horrible situation for any kids to be in, secret superheroes or otherwise.

Dooming the world to save ten people was selfish and wrong, but they had every right to make that wrong choice, if I'm making any sense.

[Red Master]

Like Question said it was harder on them because they were teenagers.If your old yes you can make the other choice with a better concience,though it would still hurt to make it.


Beta Ranger
Maybe Jason led them into that desicion knowing he still had the Dragon coin and planning to use it to get the other coins back.

Jason can't morph with it,only Tommy could.So what your saying is Jasons plan rested in the hands of the least dedicated member of the team.Jason was a good leader,but that has to be the worst plan hes had.

[The_Green_Ranger]

Jason can't morph with it,only Tommy could.So what your saying is Jasons plan rested in the hands of the least dedicated member of the team.Jason was a good leader,but that has to be the worst plan hes had.

I wouldn't say that Tommy is the least dedicated. I would say that Jason's plan rested on a former ranger who was stripped of his powers. Tommy's dedication was probably stronger than any of them. He was told of the immense danger of the infusion morph and still decided to go with it without question. His only response was "when do we begin?" If that isn't dedication, I don't know what is.

[Green Elephant]

Did the Rangers ever hear of a "bait and switch"

[Question]

At fifteen? Probably not.

[ZeoX]

Did the Rangers ever hear of a "bait and switch"

forget at 15, ZORDON is 200 freaking years old! He should have done bait and switch THIS TIME instead of later.....there was an episode where they did do that.....

Also, even at 15, you should know that as long as you have what they want, they won't hurt your parents.

[Question]

That's not necessarily true, though.

And, as memory serves, Rita and Goldar did lie about giving back their parents, so...

[DaiRed]

They actually thought Goldar would make good on his part of the deal?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1IG5houmW0Q/SL8tqi6EyvI/AAAAAAAAAJE/3zEfg_yyDlA/s320/simpsons_nelson_haha2.gif to the rangers.

[Super Jeff]

As much as it pained them to make a tough decision, they wanted to save their folks. It was understandable. Like one person said before if they were older then they knew what they had to do. However they were young and thought it was the best. Their was not real wrong choice in the matter.

[GreenRanger4Life]

I think that both decisions would have ended up wrong, if they kept there coins and saved there world and then Rita killed or turned there parents evil it would have destroyed the rangers for the rest of there life. I do remember the bait an switch where they gave up candy coins lol. Tommy was and always will be the most dedicated ranger, no one else has gone thru what he went he thru in Season 1.

[Jiemusu]

Tommy was and always will be the most dedicated ranger,

Ok.

Rethink this line VERY carefully.

no one else has gone thru what he went he thru in Season 1.

No one else forgot or left behind communicators and no one else was constantly late for duty time after time because they were putting their personal life as a priority before saving the world instead of the other way round. Yes, no one else went through that.


And then it's the simple fact that it was the others in MMPR1 that had to CONVINCE Tommy to return in "Return Of An Old Friend" due to them having lost pocession of their own coins, rather than Tommy pushing himself to return what with being so "dedicated" for duty.


Tommy, the most dedicated?


Maybe as Zeo Ranger V he was dedicated, not the most, but still.

White Ranger is debatable because Zordon was practically handing everything to him on a plate at that point, of course he'll be "willing" then, anyone would.

As Black Dino, being the mentor, the circumstances are slightly different.

But not as Green Ranger, uhuh, no way, and the same seemes to apply for Red Turbo Ranger since you could sense and see that his heart was no longer in it anymore.

[Green Elephant]

The Most dedicated Ranger is the one who fights a main villain out of armor.

[Beta Ranger]

Jason can't morph with it,only Tommy could.So what your saying is Jasons plan rested in the hands of the least dedicated member of the team.Jason was a good leader,but that has to be the worst plan hes had.

I never said it was a good plan, just that it might have been his plan.

[shiftinto]

i think the rangers made the right choice, being a ranger was never as important as there parents, and when did they give candy coins?. Also does any1 miss the villans going after the powers, like the coins and zeo crystal?

[Jiemusu]

I forgot to actually state my opinion on the thread title lol.

Yeah, it kind of was a bad decision. But rarely any leaders sans Jason had to really make an impulsive decision on the spot, time wasn't a factor, they didn't have the luxury to sit down and think too carefully, a decision HAD to be made on the spot. Jason, being the impulsive type, is very good at that.

So yes, in the short run it was a bad decision, but I'm not holding it against him because Jason was forced to make alot of difficult decisions during his leadership. Not all of them are going to be right, some are bound to be wrong, but Jason had to think on his feet.

I say don't bash his decisions until you're put in similar situations.

Also, in the long run, the reprocussions of Jason's decisions ended up being a bold and grand mood.

If Jason didn't give Goldar the coins, they wouldn't ask Tommy to return as the Green Ranger. If it didn't happen, and Tommy didn't come back, that means no White Ranger. It means Kim, Billy or Rocky, would have been the leader of the Power Rangers. This may have made Billy or Rocky Zeo Ranger Five and the Red Turbo Ranger who would lead the others in Forever Red, and then later return in Dino Thunder. Simply put, no Tommy, Green Candle would have been the last we ever saw of him.

Zordon recruited him as White Ranger because of how he proved himself after he returned in Return Of An Old Friend, because Jason gave up the coins.

So Anti-Jason/Pro-Tommy fans might wanna think about that.

[GreenRanger4Life]

I forgot to actually state my opinion on the thread title lol.

Yeah, it kind of was a bad decision. But rarely any leaders sans Jason had to really make an impulsive decision on the spot, time wasn't a factor, they didn't have the luxury to sit down and think too carefully, a decision HAD to be made on the spot. Jason, being the impulsive type, is very good at that.

So yes, in the short run it was a bad decision, but I'm not holding it against him because Jason was forced to make alot of difficult decisions during his leadership. Not all of them are going to be right, some are bound to be wrong, but Jason had to think on his feet.

I say don't bash his decisions until you're put in similar situations.

Also, in the long run, the reprocussions of Jason's decisions ended up being a bold and grand mood.

If Jason didn't give Goldar the coins, they wouldn't ask Tommy to return as the Green Ranger. If it didn't happen, and Tommy didn't come back, that means no White Ranger. It means Kim, Billy or Rocky, would have been the leader of the Power Rangers. This may have made Billy or Rocky Zeo Ranger Five and the Red Turbo Ranger who would lead the others in Forever Red, and then later return in Dino Thunder. Simply put, no Tommy, Green Candle would have been the last we ever saw of him.

Zordon recruited him as White Ranger because of how he proved himself after he returned in Return Of An Old Friend, because Jason gave up the coins.

So Anti-Jason/Pro-Tommy fans might wanna think about that.

I love Jason, I am not anti anything. What you just summed up was the idea from the start, Tommy was going to leave and have his own show the actor(JDF) was the V R Trooper, complete with Green Ranger dubbed over as the theme song. And the guy who ended up being the leader in VR Troopers was going to be the White Ranger, that is until they ordered more episodes and brought JDF back as Tommy. We also do not know if rocky/billy would have come back in DT, it might have been adam instead or no come back at all. Your idea sounds like your own dreamed up fantasy. And to be honest the show might have died by Season 3 in your dream world. Tommy was a ratings draw, White Ranger made millions in toys and ect.

[Jiemusu]

I love Jason, I am not anti anything. What you just summed up was the idea from the start, Tommy was going to leave and have his own show the actor(JDF) was the V R Trooper, complete with Green Ranger dubbed over as the theme song. And the guy who ended up being the leader in VR Troopers was going to be the White Ranger, that is until they ordered more episodes and brought JDF back as Tommy. We also do not know if rocky/billy would have come back in DT, it might have been adam instead or no come back at all. Your idea sounds like your own dreamed up fantasy. And to be honest the show might have died by Season 3 in your dream world. Tommy was a ratings draw, White Ranger made millions in toys and ect.

What I mean is that it was Tommy's absence from after he return in Return Of An Old Friend till Green No More that motivated parents and children writing in complaining.

SO if it wasn't for Jason's decision in Return Of An Old Friend then Tommy wouldn't have come back. Which, as you say, would have meant Power Rangers would have died.

Yes it's a dreamed up fantasty because we don't know for sure what would have happened, it's not set in stone, it's an untold alternative future, of course I'm guessing lol.

So, in all honesty, if Jason's decision forced them to ask Tommy to return, who saved PR that led to 15 more seasons, doesn't that mean that Jason's decision is the greatest decision that PR has ever faced?

[Super Jeff]

By god Jiemusu if that is True that would make Jason the greatest ranger ever! I knew it! lol

But in all seriousness, Jason did have the coin and it was going to be a long shot but I think he did have a plan to see if Tommy could return. It wasn't perfect but at least he had a back up plan to help save the earth. That is how I saw it.

[DarkProject]

You know... Jason's backup plan could have been way cooler.

Yes, take our power coins, but behold, we've got Thunder Power!

Enter the Mega Morphin Power Rangers! (Dairangers)

[Question]

I forgot to actually state my opinion on the thread title lol.

Yeah, it kind of was a bad decision. But rarely any leaders sans Jason had to really make an impulsive decision on the spot, time wasn't a factor, they didn't have the luxury to sit down and think too carefully, a decision HAD to be made on the spot. Jason, being the impulsive type, is very good at that.

So yes, in the short run it was a bad decision, but I'm not holding it against him because Jason was forced to make alot of difficult decisions during his leadership. Not all of them are going to be right, some are bound to be wrong, but Jason had to think on his feet.

I say don't bash his decisions until you're put in similar situations.

We... can't say it was a bad decision until our parents are kidnapped by aliens?

Also, in the long run, the reprocussions of Jason's decisions ended up being a bold and grand mood.

If Jason didn't give Goldar the coins, they wouldn't ask Tommy to return as the Green Ranger. If it didn't happen, and Tommy didn't come back, that means no White Ranger. It means Kim, Billy or Rocky, would have been the leader of the Power Rangers. This may have made Billy or Rocky Zeo Ranger Five and the Red Turbo Ranger who would lead the others in Forever Red, and then later return in Dino Thunder. Simply put, no Tommy, Green Candle would have been the last we ever saw of him.

The ends don't justify the means.

Zordon recruited him as White Ranger because of how he proved himself after he returned in Return Of An Old Friend, because Jason gave up the coins.

So Anti-Jason/Pro-Tommy fans might wanna think about that.

When was this stated?

How do you know Zordon didn't always intend to make Tommy the White Ranger,m but Rita forced him to bring back Tommy early?

[Mustang3173]

Situations such as this are a staple in the world of television. The villain offers a trade to the hero, gets what they want, and then doesn't keep up their end of the deal. It's classic and the good guys never see it coming.

[Turbo_Red]

No one else forgot or left behind communicators and no one else was constantly late for duty time after time because they were putting their personal life as a priority before saving the world instead of the other way round. Yes, no one else went through that.


And then it's the simple fact that it was the others in MMPR1 that had to CONVINCE Tommy to return in "Return Of An Old Friend" due to them having lost pocession of their own coins, rather than Tommy pushing himself to return what with being so "dedicated" for duty.


Tommy, the most dedicated?

:eek::eek: HOLY TWISTED FACTS BATMAN!!

Somebody really wants to make they're opinion right here eh? j/k Seriously though why do people always try to say that Tommy was selfishly ignoring his Ranger duty. There's only ONE time where a person can legitimately say that he put his own priorities ahead of being a Ranger and that's when he did that commerical and didn't have his communicator on him. (which isn't exactly that bad as no one wants to fight with a watch on, generally why you see people take off their watches and jewelry before a fight). Why doesn't anyone ever complain about Jason not wearing his commuincator during his competitions? I'm pretty sure he wasn't wearing it when he and Tommy first met.

Then there's you talking about him needing to be convinced to come back in Return of an Old Friend...did you actually watch that episode? He was showing up for parents day (Billy was also late for everything...pretty much everything falls on him in the first freakin place) got there after everyone was gone wondered where everyone was at and before he could turn his head good he got teleported to the Command Center where Jason slaps his coin in his hand as soon as he rematerialized. He didn't have to be convinced to come back as you have wrongly stated, he said and I'm pretty sure this is close to his exact words. "Look I want to do whatever I can to help, but I don't have any powers." Thats when Zordon explained the process to give him back his powers (cause you know he was under the impression he could never be a Ranger again) and he immediately asked when they were to start. So yeah...way to completely twist facts to try to make your point for you.

[Jiemusu]

We... can't say it was a bad decision until our parents are kidnapped by aliens?

I never said that.

Elaborate please.

The ends don't justify the means.

True, but it ended up being for the greater good. It doesn't justify it completely, but it's something that needs to be considered.

When was this stated?

Well if it wasn't true. Zordon would have made Tommy the White Ranger early, after Green Candle but before Return Of An Old Friend, yes no?

How do you know Zordon didn't always intend to make Tommy the White Ranger,m but Rita forced him to bring back Tommy early?

Well, there is always that.

But maybe Zordon wanted Tommy to really PROVE himself as a good guy first on the field before he gave him the White Ranger powers.

Green With Evil - Green Candle, Tommy barley fought on the field as a good Ranger at all. He was a backup Ranger who came at the last minute and called on Dragonzord.

Return Of An Old Friend - Green No More, Tommy started morphing with the others and fighting on the field.

Maybe Zordon was waiting until Tommy proved himself as a good guy, fighting with the others on foot more.

:eek::eek: HOLY TWISTED FACTS BATMAN!!

Somebody really wants to make they're opinion right here eh? j/k Seriously though why do people always try to say that Tommy was selfishly ignoring his Ranger duty. There's only ONE time where a person can legitimately say that he put his own priorities ahead of being a Ranger and that's when he did that commerical and didn't have his communicator on him. (which isn't exactly that bad as no one wants to fight with a watch on, generally why you see people take off their watches and jewelry before a fight). Why doesn't anyone ever complain about Jason not wearing his commuincator during his competitions? I'm pretty sure he wasn't wearing it when he and Tommy first met.

Then there's you talking about him needing to be convinced to come back in Return of an Old Friend...did you actually watch that episode? He was showing up for parents day (Billy was also late for everything...pretty much everything falls on him in the first freakin place) got there after everyone was gone wondered where everyone was at and before he could turn his head good he got teleported to the Command Center where Jason slaps his coin in his hand as soon as he rematerialized. He didn't have to be convinced to come back as you have wrongly stated, he said and I'm pretty sure this is close to his exact words. "Look I want to do whatever I can to help, but I don't have any powers." Thats when Zordon explained the process to give him back his powers (cause you know he was under the impression he could never be a Ranger again) and he immediately asked when they were to start. So yeah...way to completely twist facts to try to make your point for you.

So just because I don't agree with you, you're automatically right and I'm the one twisting? Lol riiiiiiight.

You're totally barking up the wrong tree here troll, not sure what you were trying to achieve. But you probably could have done it better.

[Question]

I never said that.

Elaborate please.

I say don't bash his decisions until you're put in similar situations.

I was replying to this.

[The_Green_Ranger]

come on guys, must all threads degenerate into arguments? Please keep things civil.

[Jiemusu]

I was replying to this.

LOL!

OH I see now!

Sorry, that was an error on my part.

I didn't say "exactly" having your parents kidnapped by aliens, I meant "similar situations" in general.

I meant you shouldn't judge Jason too harshley for making impulsive decisions until you're in a situation when you're forced to regulary make difficult or impulsive decisions from time to time too.

Hope that's clearer.

[Question]

I know, I just think absurd absolutes are awesome. *shrug*

come on guys, must all threads degenerate into arguments? Please keep things civil.

Just because we disagree doesn't mean we're not being civil. We're allowed to talk about things we don't agree on.

In other news, welcome to the internet, you must be new!

[Light Ranger]

In Return of an Old Friend, were the rangers right to turn in their power coins (thus dooming the entire world to save 10 people), or should they have chosen to save the world and sacrifice their parents?

I was just watching those episodes and it dawned upon me, that maybe they didn't make the right choice and how hard of a choice that would be. I think my Mom would rather sacrifice herself to save billions than to know that I handed all my powers over to an evil force and potentially setting thee world up for billions and them to die anyway.

There's no question they were completely wrong. It ticked me off that they'd be that selfish (and generic, since generic action movies the good guys always cave and risk everything just because the bad guy has a gun to one person, etc.)

There's no way they're getting MY coin :D

[Turbo_Red]

So just because I don't agree with you, you're automatically right and I'm the one twisting? Lol riiiiiiight.

You're totally barking up the wrong tree here troll, not sure what you were trying to achieve. But you probably could have done it better.

What the hell? Did you just call me a troll? Really? I don't even know where to start with this crap.

Okay, first of all, I don't have a problem with anybody disagreeing with me, so don't try to play it that way to not address you twisting the facts of the episode. You're not wrong because you disagree with me, you're wrong because you said that Tommy had to be convinced by the others to help them in Return of an Old Friend in order to try to make your point about him not being dedicated and the episode clearly shows that what you said was WRONG and full of crap.

As for this troll crap...really? Are you trying to bully me or intimidate me? I'm barking up the wrong tree? Who the hell are you supposed to be? Is calling me a troll your sad excuse of an insult or do you honestly think I'm trolling you in this thread, which I...you know happen to have the second post in long before you showed up. I think you owe me an apology for this ridiculous and uncalled for outburst.

[Jiemusu]

What the hell? Did you just call me a troll? Really? I don't even know where to start with this crap.

Okay, first of all, I don't have a problem with anybody disagreeing with me, so don't try to play it that way to not address you twisting the facts of the episode. You're not wrong because you disagree with me, you're wrong because you said that Tommy had to be convinced by the others to help them in Return of an Old Friend in order to try to make your point about him not being dedicated and the episode clearly shows that what you said was WRONG and full of crap.

As for this troll crap...really? Are you trying to bully me or intimidate me? I'm barking up the wrong tree? Who the hell are you supposed to be? Is calling me a troll your sad excuse of an insult or do you honestly think I'm trolling you in this thread, which I...you know happen to have the second post in long before you showed up. I think you owe me an apology for this ridiculous and uncalled for outburst.

Yep, you're trying to provoke a negative reaction from me, you're still doing it in fact. That's called being a troll. I see them as I call them.

If you really don't think you are then, well you might need to read through what you type beforehand and think about how you come across.

Anyway, this thread isn't about you generally looking down on certain members and treating them with an air of no respect, it's about whether Jason made the right decision in Return Of An Old Friend. If you could stick to the topic rather than have a crisis, that would be great.

I probably would have been more willing to discuss what you said about the topic and my opinions maturely, and would have accepted I was wrong about what happened in the episode etc... but your general atittude to just treat someone poorly like you did kinda blew that.

[Turbo_Red]

Yep, you're trying to provoke a negative reaction from me, you're still doing it in fact. That's called being a troll. I see them as I call them.

If you really don't think you are then, well you might need to read through what you type beforehand and think about how you come across.

Anyway, this thread isn't about you generally looking down on certain members and treating them with an air of no respect, it's about whether Jason made the right decision in Return Of An Old Friend. If you could stick to the topic rather than have a crisis, that would be great.

I probably would have been more willing to discuss what you said about the topic and my opinions maturely, and would have accepted I was wrong about what happened in the episode etc... but your general atittude to just treat someone poorly like you did kinda blew that.

You're kidding me right? How am I trying to provoke a negative response from you by responding to your negative, name calling attack on me? Don't try to turn this into some BS about me looking down on people cause clearly I was not looking down on anybody. I was responding to this....

Ok.

Rethink this line VERY carefully.


No one else forgot or left behind communicators and no one else was constantly late for duty time after time because they were putting their personal life as a priority before saving the world instead of the other way round. Yes, no one else went through that.


And then it's the simple fact that it was the others in MMPR1 that had to CONVINCE Tommy to return in "Return Of An Old Friend" due to them having lost pocession of their own coins, rather than Tommy pushing himself to return what with being so "dedicated" for duty.


Tommy, the most dedicated?


Maybe as Zeo Ranger V he was dedicated, not the most, but still.

White Ranger is debatable because Zordon was practically handing everything to him on a plate at that point, of course he'll be "willing" then, anyone would.

As Black Dino, being the mentor, the circumstances are slightly different.

But not as Green Ranger, uhuh, no way, and the same seemes to apply for Red Turbo Ranger since you could sense and see that his heart was no longer in it anymore.

YOU were talking down to that guy (so much so you forgot to post your opinion on the topic at hand) and I simply called you on not having your facts straight about the episode while you were trying to make your point to him that Tommy wasn't dedicated. So don't sit here and try to make it seem like you were this mature angel that I came along, trying to pick a fight with like some immature a-hole. Don't try to lecture me about talking to someone poorly when that's what you were doing that drew my response in the first place. I wasn't trying to come off like a a-hole to you in the orignal post, if that's the way you took it, that's on you, but don't come back calling me a troll and all this other crap when I didn't call you any names and then try to spin it like I'm trying have a go at you or something and not sticking to the topic at hand, because YOU took the topic down a road about Tommy's dedication.

Discussions can expand and evolve to different things that stem from the original point and this dedication thing is an example of that. You weren't wrong in continuing down that path of conversation and I'm not wrong for talking about it either as that's where the discussion expanded to. I won't continue this argument with you, but I am still expecting an apology because YOU provoked all of this.

[Question]

You're kidding me right? How am I trying to provoke a negative response from you by responding to your negative, name calling attack on me? Don't try to turn this into some BS about me looking down on people cause clearly I was not looking down on anybody. I was responding to this....

Please quote the part where he called you a name, because I can't find it.

[Jiemusu]

I'm not apoligising for anything. I haven't done anything.

I didn't provoke you oiginally, since you responded to me first remember? This isn't the first time you've done this, y'know.

If you're not going to even consider apoligising for your own general attitute, how on earth can you expect others to? Seems kinda hypocritical.

And you're still being off topic.

All you're doing, with this outburst, is just lowering your validity and increasing mine (of something that's off topic anyway.)

The topic is whether Jason made the right decision in Return Of An Old Friend.

If you're just going to use this thread to just be a jackass to a member and not link to the topic, you might as well just leave now.

[Turbo_Red]

So just because I don't agree with you, you're automatically right and I'm the one twisting? Lol riiiiiiight.

You're totally barking up the wrong tree here troll, not sure what you were trying to achieve. But you probably could have done it better.

Considering I was posting in this topic before him, I assume he's just generally calling me a troll or something, as I'm not sure how I can troll him in a topic I'm already posting in nor have I ever had any confrontations with him before this.

[Jiemusu]

Considering I was posting in this topic before him, I assume he's just generally calling me a troll or something, as I'm not sure how I can troll him in a topic I'm already posting in nor have I never had any confrontations with him before this.

Whether you posted in the topic before hand is irrelevant. It's whether who posted in the topic first that had that post RESPONDED to by the other member.

I never quoted your precious "first" post in this thread, while you did mine. With that, you displayed a trollish attitude towards me first, trying to provoke a negative reaction.

And I'm saying you're trolling because, well, you are, and if you don't want to be given that title, then why do it?

No confrontations before this? I think your memory is going. I'll happy to backtrack through the site, this isn't the first scenario of you doing this.

Now, for the upteenth time, this thread is about whether Jason made the right decision in Return Of An Old Friend. If you aren't going to stick to the topic, get out. Since you're just using this thread to vent your general life frustration at this point.

[Turbo_Red]

I'm not apoligising for anything. I haven't done anything.

I didn't provoke you oiginally, since you responded to me first remember? This isn't the first time you've done this, y'know.

If you're not going to even consider apoligising for your own general attitute, how on earth can you expect others to? Seems kinda hypocritical.

And you're still being off topic.

All you're doing, with this outburst, is just lowering your validity and increasing mine (of something that's off topic anyway.)

The topic is whether Jason made the right decision in Return Of An Old Friend.

If you're just going to use this thread to just be a jackass to a member and not link to the topic, you might as well just leave now.

First time I've done what? Have I gotten into it with you before? Cause I certainly don't recall it. Can you link me so I can refresh my memory on getting into something with you?

[Super Jeff]

all right guys back on the subject, we don't want this thread shut down for arguing.

The decision was hard but you really can't blame them. They loved theri parents. I know if me and my freinds were put into a similar situation then we might have done it as well.

[Turbo_Red]

Yeah, I still stand by that. It's such a ridiculously hard choice to make that you can't really say either one is wrong. However to throw a different wrinkle in there, exactly how much damage did they expect Rita to do? She only ever attacked Angel Grove and pretty much everyone in Angel Grove was in the Youth Center when she kidnapped everybody. I won't say everyone, but close to it as we've seen Angel Grove doesn't have that big a population lol. I mean, we knew she wasn't going to destroy the coins right? So they're chances of getting their parents and the coins back were better than they're chances of keeping them and stopping her without their parents getting offed.

[Raging Phoenix]

Stop bickering. Discussion ain't personal. Stay polite or I'll bite someone

[Jiemusu]

Look, the Rangers were like... what 15 years of age at this time?

They were in (I'm going with the US system of education because chances are it's more well known) 9th grade?

5 kids in 9th grade are given this kind of responsibility?

Hell, if you went to any 15 year old in the 9th grade right now and told then that they have to give you an item of your choice of you'll kill their parents. How d'u think they'll handle it?

Right, now imagine if this item of choice was a power coin that they used n conjuntion with the huge responsibility of protecting their town daily from various monster freaks of nature. Imagine you asked them to hand that over, and risk the ability of the town no longer being able to be defended, in exchange for their parents life.

Anyone else in the same situation would be hit hard by this, unless they were an affectionate psychopath.

Most would freak out and probably have a nervous breakdown right there and then.

I think the fact that Jason and the Rangers stayed on his toes, controlled, during all of this pretty much goes in their favour as a merit.

And yes, the reprocussions of this event meant that the Power Ranger team didn't crumble to crap when Jason had to go to the Teen Summit.

[Green Elephant]

I actually have the Rangers go through a similar decision (except the hostage is a Ranger instead of the parents). My plan applied to their scenario is as follows:

The five rangers meet Goldar ready to make the exchange.
At the last second, one wavers (Kim probably) and the five get into an arguement.
Meanwhile Tommy (who the villains have forgot about due to his "powerlessness") sneaks around back to free the parents while everyone is distracted.
Goldar gets fed up with the arguement and grabs the box.
Surprise! It's empty. The Coins were at the Command Center the whole time.
Tommy gets the parents away, then Alpha brings the coins back to the Rangers.
Goldar gets his 24-karat keister handed to him.

[Light Ranger]

Look, the Rangers were like... what 15 years of age at this time?

I thought they were like 8 or 10ish? So even worse.

Anyone else in the same situation would be hit hard by this, unless they were an affectionate psychopath.

Hit really really hard, but I'd still do the right-none-bad-action-movie thing (I hope) :D

And yes, the reprocussions of this event meant that the Power Ranger team didn't crumble to crap when Jason had to go to the Teen Summit.

Oh help, not the summit :D

Okay, so why can Justin use his powers when he's a little twerp, but not the real rangers when they're that age? I mean it could just be that their equipment at that time needed someone older to operate it, and the equipment Justin used didn't (or had something specially built to take care of that issue).

And...ugh...I hated how they never took their helmets off when Justin showed up, since...well he coudln't take his helmet off. I *HATED* that whole thing.

Justin is probably my Wesley Crusher :D

[NekoLLX]

let me try and put things in perspective for people on the fence

I'm holding a gun to your parents heads
You have something that can save the world
I want it
You have 3 seconds to give it to me before i blow their heads off.
2 seconds
1 second

it's speeding bullet time...CHOOSE