The End....

[SteelSpaceRanger]

A new zealand herald article that basically confirms the end of power rangers

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10560372

I for one will be sad to see it go.

[DarkProject]

Finally a real source.

*curses*

[DaiRed]

LA LA LA LA LA I'm not listening! LA LA LA LA LA

[Urataros]

Well, goodbye power rangers...
At least we still have sentai and the other power ranger seasons.
And Kamen Rider and KRDK

[DarkWish]

And so the reliable sources are proven right once again, unfortunately. It's sad to see Power Rangers end, but it had a good run.

[GekiCosmic]

So, it's finally over... I'm hoping in a few years Disney will bring it back, or sell it to another company..

I'm optimistic that Disney will make a final decision after RPM's aired.

Everybody watch RPM, even if it's inconvenient for you.. we need to get the ratings up..

As Tommy would say: "Aw, man!"

The show may have gone (not permanently, I hope) but the Power will always live on within us all.

[Evil Green Ranger]

I thought they were moving to canada, man this is gonna kill a lot of jobs

[Green Elephant]

RIP

Power Rangers

Beloved Series

1993-2009

[GekiCosmic]

It'll be back eventually, we all know it will.

The power will never die.

And here comes the golden age of fanfiction to keep us going..

[DaiRed]

Um... if a news article can't get it's facts straight before it goes to press, it is instantly discredible in my book.

Call me when there really is no season next year.

He's right. It said the guy voiced General Crunch for 3 years.:rolleyes: I'm still saying that as long as their is Super Sentai, there will be Power Rangers.

RIP

Power Rangers

Beloved Series

1993-???

FIXED.

[Beta Ranger]

Reading the artical I can't help but think they're saying the same thing they'd be saying whether it was stopping altogether or moving to Canada.

[rmssw]

My God, people are desperate...

As of right now, Power Rangers is cancelled. Get used to it. There's a chance it will come back...there's even a chance that Disney will change their mind...but that's not the plan right now. It's the same situation as the animated series rumors...just because it ultimately didn't happen doesn't mean the rumors weren't true. Disney WAS creating an animated series. They chose not to air it and made Jungle Fury and RPM instead. Right now, Disney HAS cancelled the series...we'll see how things turn out, but seriously don't be surprised if there's no Power Rangers next year.

[ZeoX]

Exactly, Dai.
There have been rumors of Power Rangers ending since Zeo, and the closest it's come until the present time was Wild Force. I don't know about you, but that says something to me.

I never even knew it was supposedly cancled after Wildforce.

Zeo was, at the time, the biggest failure ever. A new series coming off an IMMENSELY popular old series, and starting a bad trend. It also had subpar special effects compared to the orignal, recycled music, recycled storylines, costumes looked Pre-schoolish, Rita and Zedd, who IMO were the some of the best villains ever, and up until PRiS were THE BEST, shoved to the side for the really not so well designed Machine People....

However Turbo QUICKLY and effectively DESTROYED the idea the good actors, good costumes, and good specail effects a good series makes. Zeo looked like a Freaking hemingway npovel comparatively speaking for story and what not. And this brought Zeo's popularity up, to little, to late. and its becuase of hte under preformance of Zeo, the MMPR movie, and turbo both ratings wise and box offcie wise, whywe have no DVD seaons box sets.

Hence we have one of the BEST PR seasons ever in PRiS becuas they learned what Americans liked and wanted. GOOD Costummes, GOOD special effects, good acting, and MOST IMPORTANTLY a Storyline that continued to intrigue a now TEENAGE audience. Lost Galaxy in particular, and to some extent Lightspeed Rescue and Timeforce continued on in this fashion.

Enter Disney and the whole thing goes to ***. Jungle fury was probably the absolute LAST straw, both it and Mystic force were apparently FAR better in the Japanese versions.(At the very lest the pilots were better, I can't say the entire series was for sure, but I strongly suspect it when pilots are usually the best of a series). mystic force in particular disappointed me as is up until the end they had me hooked, but that ending was trash. Where as I have said before MMPR was a vast improvement over Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger.

essentially if it were canned now, it would be the most appropriate time to do so IMO, or better yet sell it off to someone that knows and appreciates an American audience of YOUNG adults. i bet anything the people that made blade and underworld would do a VERY nice job at this......

[DaiRed]

Zeo was, at the time, the biggest failure ever. A new series coming off an IMMENSELY popular old series, and starting a bad trend. It also had subpar special effects compared to the orignal, recycled music, recycled storylines, costumes looked Pre-schoolish, Rita and Zedd, who IMO were the some of the best villains ever, and up until PRiS were THE BEST, shoved to the side for the really not so well designed Machine People....

However Turbo QUICKLY and effectively DESTROYED the idea the good actors, good costumes, and good specail effects a good series makes. Zeo looked like a Freaking hemingway npovel comparatively speaking for story and what not. And this brought Zeo's popularity up, to little, to late. and its becuase of hte under preformance of Zeo, the MMPR movie, and turbo both ratings wise and box offcie wise, whywe have no DVD seaons box sets.

Hence we have one of the BEST PR seasons ever in PRiS becuas they learned what Americans liked and wanted. GOOD Costummes, GOOD special effects, good acting, and MOST IMPORTANTLY a Storyline that continued to intrigue a now TEENAGE audience. Lost Galaxy in particular, and to some extent Lightspeed Rescue and Timeforce continued on in this fashion.

Enter Disney and the whole thing goes to ***. Jungle fury was probably the absolute LAST straw, both it and Mystic force were apparently FAR better in the Japanese versions.(At the very lest the pilots were better, I can't say the entire series was for sure, but I strongly suspect it when pilots are usually the best of a series). mystic force in particular disappointed me as is up until the end they had me hooked, but that ending was trash. Where as I have said before MMPR was a vast improvement over Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger.

essentially if it were canned now, it would be the most appropriate time to do so IMO, or better yet sell it off to someone that knows and appreciates an American audience of YOUNG adults. i bet anything the people that made blade and underworld would do a VERY nice job at this......

Dude, Zeo was pretty popular. It still had the remaining rangers from MM, and then it started going downhill when all but Justin left in Turbo.
And it's not Americans' fault for the costumes. That's all Sentai. It's up to Americans to give the source footage a good story.
And really? IMO Jungle Fury is Disney's 2nd best season behind and it's my 5th favorite. Mystic Force had its moments too. The only Sentai they really ****ed up was Boukenger with Operation Overdrive.
I do agree that if Disney doesn't want it anymore, just give it to someone else who will do a great job *cough*WB*cough. But as far as it getting cancelled, I've said it once, and I'll say it again: As long as Sentai continues, so will Rangers.

[ThatGuy83]

I love this fandom. Unwilling to accept that Power Rangers is over.

[2580]

To ThisSpaceForRent: National Geographic is a respected magazine that generally gets facts straight but misprints still appear in it and they are acknowledged in later issues. People that work for newspapers and magazines generally don't willingly include misprints, they just make mistakes and don't spot them until some of their readers write in to point out the misprints. This New Zealand newspaper article could be wrong about Power Rangers coming to an end, but I can't believe that they would willingly include misprints.

[Super Jeff]

Actually WIld Force was supposed to be the last season. I heard that was the main reason for forever red as it would help contribute to the legacy of all 10 seasons.
I guess Disney thought the series was to poular to kill off so they just continued. I don't see how the show got to expensive though as they were able to do 5 seasons without any real trouble. I guess the problems started with Jungle Fury.

[rmssw]

There's a difference between being skeptical and choosing not to believe something because you don't want to. The former is wise; the latter is irresponsible.

[SteelSpaceRanger]

I've gone through and re-read the article and it only states that it will be the last season filmed in New Zealand. So there is hope it seems. And power rangers will come back in some way shape or form I believe.

[Question]

Um... if a news article can't get it's facts straight before it goes to press, it is instantly discredible in my book.

Call me when there really is no season next year.

You know I love you, right?

Because I do.

[Jiemusu]

This again?

Me thinks this is going to be another recurring monthly thread to add to the collection.

From the people that brought you "Rita is the Mystic Mother?!" and "OMG ADAM IS BACK".

[Super Jeff]

This again?

Me thinks this is going to be another recurring monthly thread to add to the collection.

From the people that brought you "Rita is the Mystic Mother?!" and "OMG ADAM IS BACK".

and don't forget the people that keep on asking if Wes's is sky's father. lol

[Razor]

and don't forget the people that keep on asking if Wes's is sky's father. lol

Yeah, that one is annoying.

[Jiemusu]

I managed to block those Wes is Sky's Dad threads out my head for the time being lol.

The rage.... returning...

[Question]

Sky is Wes' dad!

Different enough?

[Super Jeff]

Honestly it can never end. In my mind the only way to truly end the series is a massive crossover but that will never happen. So it will never end. My weird logic.

[Green Elephant]

A massive crossover is an end with a bang

IMO, if this is the end, it will be going out with a whimper instead of a bang.

[NekoLLX]

According to whom, exactly, is Power Rangers canceled?

When no new season is announced or something INDISPUTABLE is presented... THEN I will believe it.

Does the Producer for the first 18 episodes of RPM count? He stated point blank on RangerBoard "Disney told me RPM is the last season" and to "swing for the fences"

Not indisputable enough for you or do we need to dig up Walt Disney's head?

[rmssw]

Get me PROOF. Indisputable proof.

Tell you what. Get me Jackie Marchand to state, in no uncertain terms, that it's curtains and I'll believe it. And I mean have her come TO THE BOARDS and make the statement herself. Otherwise, I'm holding out. It's not irresponsible to not believe every word of everything you hear... by that stretch of logic, Power Rangers should have been over over a decade ago.

But Jackie Marchand no longer works with the show. By your logic that prevents you from believing Eddie Guzelian, we shouldn't believe a word that comes out of her mouth, either.

Something tells me that no matter who said what, you'd find a reason to deny it. Wrong font size, perhaps...

[Soul Of Darkness]

End no this can't be the end,nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooo
this killing me!

[NekoLLX]

Sorry, but you might as well dig up somebody other than a terminated EP. Maybe I'm being ~delusional~, but something about his comments doesn't add up for me.

For instance, if RPM was the last season, why would they care enough to replace him mid-season?

Nothing short of someone credible literally coming to the boards to do an announcement in no uncertain terms will I believe anything about cancelation this early in the game. Let RPM premiere. Let Shinkenger finish. We'll see what's up in time.

because some little b**** on the crew didn't liek how PR was going and cried to mommey to get him fired? Just because a show is being canned doesnt mean the owners will let anything pass.

For example if Paramount knew Enterprise would be the last season of Star Trek and the EP decided to turn it int osoft core porn half way through the season do you think Paramount would let things continue or try to save something of their legacy?

[rmssw]

Strange that you're willing to believe the sources that revealed that both Eddie and Jackie were let go from the show despite the fact that we've yet to see episodes without their credits but you don't believe those same sources when they say that Disney made this season with the intention of it being the last.

You're right in thinking that it's possibly NOT the last season. Things can change...just as they have before. As much as you're bothered the by the "sheep" mentality, I'm bothered by the people who go through life with the attitude of "if I don't see it, it must not be real." Disney considered going animated...that's true...they opted against it, but that doesn't make it any less true that they went as far as to create a pilot and promos. Disney wants RPM to be the last season...that is true, too...it could change over the course of the next year, but that won't make it any less true that, as of now, they don't want to make the show anymore.

[Jiemusu]

Since when has it suddenly been news that Disney's heart is no longer into Power Rangers?

Disney's heart hasn't been into the show for years now, honestly, people need to stop running around like headless chickens.

Keep yourself entertained with the 16 other seasons that have already been produced for your well being, which were made to be watched continously and weren't made so you could watch them once then never again, and wait patiently. You'll find out when it happens.

If people really want to let their superego take control of ther id and wish on the impulse, then believe what you want at the time. But considering Disney has changed their minds a dozen of times. If you really want to believe the now, chances are Disney is going to change their minds and you're going to end up looking rather silly when Disney changes their mind again.

I'm sick of this "oh but even if it later changes, at the time the rumours are true, so we should take it as fact" routine. Are people serious? You're basically admitting that the information you choose to believe now WILL be faulty, and need to be corrected in the future, but you'll basically go along with the flow and believe what's thrown at you.

If it needs to be changed, or even considered to be changed, at ANY point then obviously... it's not right the first time. Am I right?

[Green Elephant]

For now, I believe the show is to be cancelled until we hear otherwise.

At least we still have one more season. Hopefully they will change their minds by September (when I assume production would start)

[Rocky157]

I don't know about this. Isn't Power Rangers the show that gets the most views from young boys? Don't the toys have a high popularity amongst young children? Why would Disney Cancel it?

[RJ James]

I'm not sure. I agree. I'm going to wait until I hear word further along in the season. Not to say this isn't a reliable source but the new season has just started.

[Jiemusu]

I don't know about this. Isn't Power Rangers the show that gets the most views from young boys? Don't the toys have a high popularity amongst young children? Why would Disney Cancel it?

Asking Disney to explain their actions or to do something logically that the fans would appreciate is like jumping off a building and hoping that you'll land convienantly into a poor of chocolate ice cream.

It doesn't happen.

The PR fanbase have been attempting to understand Disney's actions for years now, we just can't. I don't think even Disney knows themselves.

Basically, their heart hasn't been into Power Rangers for a while now.

I don't believe that they're quitting though because I've heard this same story with Operation Overdrive and Jungle Fury, and they went through ok (well, I say PROO was ok, but... y'know).

It's up to Disney only to literally prove us wrong that it's not being cancelled, it's not up to us to prove that will carry on.

And when I say Disney needs to literally prove us wrong, I don't mean that a fan reading an article from one nation counts as Disney "literally" proving us wrong.

[RJ James]

Jiemusu: I whole-heartedly agree there. I'll believe there's no Power Rangers when February/March comes by and there's no new series premiere or even before that when there are no new toys.

Call me an optimist, but I have a bright outlook.

[NekoLLX]

Asking Disney to explain their actions or to do something logically that the fans would appreciate is like jumping off a building and hoping that you'll land convienantly into a poor of chocolate ice cream.

It doesn't happen.

The PR fanbase have been attempting to understand Disney's actions for years now, we just can't. I don't think even Disney knows themselves.

Basically, their heart hasn't been into Power Rangers for a while now.

I don't believe that they're quitting though because I've heard this same story with Operation Overdrive and Jungle Fury, and they went through ok (well, I say PROO was ok, but... y'know).

It's up to Disney only to literally prove us wrong that it's not being cancelled, it's not up to us to prove that will carry on.

And when I say Disney needs to literally prove us wrong, I don't mean that a fan reading an article from one nation counts as Disney "literally" proving us wrong.

Wait i'm confused...so Disney (accournding to you) needs to prove their NOT canclingthe show or they ARE canceling the show. Cause you talk about a article for one nation but eveything "fan" have been posting are saying "this is the last season" the New Zealand times, the EP Edddies post on RB...theirs never been a statement from disney that "we will keep doing Power Rangers"

[NekoLLX]

Jiemusu: I whole-heartedly agree there. I'll believe there's no Power Rangers when February/March comes by and there's no new series premiere or even before that when there are no new toys.

Call me an optimist, but I have a bright outlook.

Toys don't a season make, hell i saw a comercial duing over drive for a new toy line that included the White MMPR (something about sharing armors)

Bandai and Disney don't even live in the same fantasy land. Unless i'm the one living in a dream and the Jungle Fury rangers fought "evil Aliens" and were trained by a Elephant, Shark, and Bat who were Power Rangers before the Red, Blue, and Yellow Rangers were...

[Jiemusu]

Wait i'm confused...so Disney (accournding to you) needs to prove their NOT canclingthe show or they ARE canceling the show.

Yes, it's their responsibility, they own the show.

Cause you talk about a article for one nation but eveything "fan" have been posting are saying "this is the last season" the New Zealand times, the EP Edddies post on RB...theirs never been a statement from disney that "we will keep doing Power Rangers"

Rumours fly around all the time and fans, no offence (well, I'm one myself) will often believe anything.

This whole "___ is the last season" has been around since Operation Overdrive, it's just more fans are starting to hear them as they get repeated each season.

I'm not saying definitly that Power Rangers is carrying on, just that I want something solid from Disney.

And the most solid evidence you can get is wait a year and see if it's airing.

[NekoLLX]

Yes, it's their responsibility, they own the show.



Rumours fly around all the time and fans, no offence (well, I'm one myself) will often believe anything.

This whole "___ is the last season" has been around since Operation Overdrive, it's just more fans are starting to hear them as they get repeated each season.

I'm not saying definitly that Power Rangers is carrying on, just that I want something solid from Disney.

And the most solid evidence you can get is wait a year and see if it's airing.

your still confusing me:
Do you
A: belive rpm is not the last season and Disney has to Prove it is
or
b: RPM is the last season and Disney has to prove it isn't

[Jiemusu]

your still confusing me:

Well, I said both.

Do you
A: belive rpm is not the last season and Disney has to Prove it is

As of now, until something solid (and I literally mean solid) comes from Disney (and I literally mean Disney), yes.

or
b: RPM is the last season and Disney has to prove it isn't

I don't think it is the last season, but Disney hasn't given any solid indication at all on if it is or isn't yet. Only "other" sources which, considering it's the internet and PR rumours aren't exactly known to be overflowing with validity, are probably faulty unless it's from the real thing.

Basically, to make it simple. We don't know RPM's fate at all, and we're still waiting for Disney to prove that it either is or isn't the last.

[NekoLLX]

So the fact the executive Producer for the first half of the show said Disney told them it was cancled, that's not good enough for you?

[Jiemusu]

So the fact the executive Producer for the first half of the show said Disney told them it was cancled, that's not good enough for you?

You realize it's the internet we're on?

I'm not being naive about this, lies flow regularly through this information highway. Just because something says someone said something, doesn't mean they did.

And from what people go on about with this whole "Oh even if the rumour changes, it was true at the time" garbage people use for a pro-PR cancelling argument in a twisted way, then most of what Disney "apparently" state as true at the time will be changed a few months later to PR coming back again.

So no, it's not good enough for me. I'm waiting until a year after RPM is finished, and then I'll know for real.

[Dr.Darkness]

Can't wait for this thread next year too.........

But really. If people are going to make these threads, don't make them so early. I am not taking sides on the matter, but if we are going to have a good discussion that doesn't go around in circles about this, wait to speculate a lot later, when more information is going to be released.

This is one article we are speculating over. We don't even know if the woman heard anything other than "Power Rangers isn't being filmed in New Zealand anymore." That could mean anything. If it means that Power Rangers is being canceled than we are going to have to accept that. But being canceled doesn't mean Power Rangers is going to die. That is why we as a fandom are here.

[mmartina]

This Sucks Maybe they will start bringing out the Season by Season DVD's

[Rocky157]

I heard this somewhere, I don't know if it's true or not, but did they get the producer of PRiS to finish RPM?

[rmssw]

I heard this somewhere, I don't know if it's true or not, but did they get the producer of PRiS to finish RPM?

They got Judd Lynn, who wrote from the second half of Turbo through Time Force. That sounds like a good thing at first, but apparently, he undid a lot of the good that Eddie Guzelian did in the first 18 episodes and the remaining 14 will be dramatically different.

Just from the first two episodes, I'm extremely impressed with what Eddie did to the show. I'd really hate to see all of the good things being set up right now fall apart in the second half of the season.

[Let'sRocket!335Enter]

They got Judd Lynn, who wrote from the second half of Turbo through Time Force. That sounds like a good thing at first, but apparently, he undid a lot of the good that Eddie Guzelian did in the first 18 episodes and the remaining 14 will be dramatically different.

Just from the first two episodes, I'm extremely impressed with what Eddie did to the show. I'd really hate to see all of the good things being set up right now fall apart in the second half of the season.


Ohhh, that's interesting. Yea you would think it was a good idea. I really don't know how it's going to change the atmosphere of the show but changing drastically from one thing to another in the middle of the season would probably cause havoc for the storyline and feel of the show. I have faith. If Eddie G. left because he ....(input)...., then I really hope Judd L. can use his writing skills to at least make the plot interesting like the seasons he did in past and just continue from there. All in all, I really hope the feel of the show doesn't go from dark and interesting(the feeling I get from Eddie G. so far) to light and "kiddish" because of Disney.


I'm hoping someone would just buy Power Rangers from Disney already. Enough with the milking, raping and dilution of our once heroic show for a few quick bucks. Disney should focus on their amusement parks.....and probably go away. Lol.

[Xerox]

I really love you guys; everybody on this site that I know to some extent and even those I don't at all, you guys are all pretty awesome. However, I can't believe another thread has come out of this. Isn't the "End of Live Action Power Rangers?!" thread a good enough place to discuss this? But I digress...
The article in question is credible enough for me to believe, but you've gotta scrutinize the exact wording. Bottom line is:

The current production company will not be shooting another season.

This could open numerous doors. An animated season, a different company buying the rights to produce it, or any possibility. I'm not being naive, but I'm stating from experience what I know to be true. Power Rangers has impacted history.

Look at your favorite things from your childhood, kids of the 80's and 90's:
Pokemon, Mario, Power Rangers, Voltron, Transformers, etc.
Now think of your parent's childhood heroes/characters/shows:
The Flintstones, Scooby-Doo, Batman, Superman, Star Wars

How many of these things are currently dead? None. They are still alive and kicking because of the impact they've left in our lives.
Take it from me. RPM is not the last we'll see of our Rangers.

May the Power Protect you all.

[NekoLLX]

I really love you guys; everybody on this site that I know to some extent and even those I don't at all. I can't believe another thread has come out of this. Isn't the "End of Live Action Power Rangers?!" thread a good enough place to discuss this? But I digress...
The article in question is credible enough for me to believe, but you've gotta scrutinize the exact wording. Bottom line is:
The current production company will not be shooting another season.
This could open numerous doors. An animated season, a different company buying the rights to produce it, or any possibility. I'm not being naive, but I'm stating from experience what I know to be true. Power Rangers has impacted history.
Look at your favorite things from your childhood, kids of the 80's and 90's:
Pokemon, Mario, Power Rangers, Voltron, Transformers, etc.
Now think of your parent's childhood heroes/characters/shows:
The Flintstones, Scooby-Doo, Batman, Superman, Star Wars
How many of these things are currently dead? None. They are still alive and kicking because of the impact they've left in our lives.
Take it from me. RPM is not the last we'll see of our Rangers. May the Power Protect you all.

Do you rember this little shwo that aired in 1966 staring a Captian named Kirk?

Strange but its been what 3 years now since we saw the Federation flag ship fly.

Star Trey has been in the consiously for 30 years, Power Rangers half that. If star Trek can die you think Power Rangers can't?

[Dr.Darkness]

Yes because I guess the new Star Trek movie doesn't count.

[Xerox]

Gotta go with Dr. Darkness, a new Star Trek has been in the works for some time now.

[NekoLLX]

Yes because I guess the new Star Trek movie doesn't count.

no it doesnt considering its a single 2 hour movie after again what 3 years of no TV show.

[Xerox]

But that still means Star Trek has not hit its end. Just because RPM may be the last Power Ranger season for years doesn't necessarily mean the franchise is dead.

[NekoLLX]

But that still means Star Trek has not hit its end. Just because RPM may be the last Power Ranger season for years doesn't necessarily mean the franchise is dead.

No it means Star Trek MAY be getting a revivla or it may just do a movie every 2 years. As a series it is Dead. The ast Serialezed episode of Star trek was MAY 15, 2005 and there is still no new TV show Four years later.

if Star Trek which premiered in the Sixties can die Power Rangers can to.

MAYBE in 4 years Power Rangers might ciem back like Star Trek MIGHT be commming back but that doesn't thant the fact once new episodes stop airing a series is "dead"

[rmssw]

In the case of Power Rangers, I do think it's important that it continue immediately. There's nowhere near the cult following that there is for other franchises and I don't think it could survive a lenghty hiatus. It has a hard enough time keeping it's target audience as it is. So, if it is going to go on, Disney needs to make the decision soon so either they or another company will have time to work on adapting Shinkenger or creating a new format and getting the show on sometime in 2010.

[Dr.Darkness]

Yes, but he means that the franchise is not. Even if Power Rangers comes out with a moive it would still be part of the series, even if it isn't in continuity with the show. We don't even know if R.P.M is in the same timeline, but it is part of the series.

[NekoLLX]

Yes, but he means that the franchise is not. Even if Power Rangers comes out with a moive it would still be part of the series, even if it isn't in continuity with the show. We don't even know if R.P.M is in the same timeline, but it is part of the series.

i've never talked about the frience being dead. I said Series. Numerous times.

Star Trek the series died, but they still make novels and games.

But if the Power Ranger Series does what will we have left? Toys?

[Xerox]

Neko, I'm not sure you read my initial post in this thread. I said this won't be the last time we see the Power Rangers. Of all the examples I listed, few of them have had constant yearly incarnations.
Power Rangers is LUCKY to have had 16 years of consecutive seasons. All I'm saying is I have a feeling that if RPM is the last season, Power Rangers will appear again within the next ten years.

[Dr.Darkness]

In the case of Power Rangers, I do think it's important that it continue immediately. There's nowhere near the cult following that there is for other franchises and I don't think it could survive a lenghty hiatus. It has a hard enough time keeping it's target audience as it is. So, if it is going to go on, Disney needs to make the decision soon so either they or another company will have time to work on adapting Shinkenger or creating a new format and getting the show on sometime in 2010.

I doubt finding the target audience will be a problem.

[NekoLLX]

Neko, I'm not sure you read my initial post in this thread. I said this won't be the last time we see the Power Rangers. Of all the examples I listed, few of them have had constant yearly incarnations.
Power Rangers is LUCKY to have had 16 years of consecutive seasons. All I'm saying is I have a feeling that if RPM is the last season, Power Rangers will appear again within the next ten years.

and i think you missed mine. If Star Trek can die and FOUR YEARS LATER isn't back on the air you think Power Ranger's is more resistant

[Dr.Darkness]

Power Rangers isn't Star Trek. They are tow completely different things made by two completey different companies. Just because Star Trek isn't on the air doesn't mean that Power rangers can't be.

[NekoLLX]

Power Rangers isn't Star Trek. They are tow completely different things made by two completey different companies. Just because Star Trek isn't on the air doesn't mean that Power rangers can't be.

Your right, their not the same thing Star Trek is a religious phenenom with it's own language.

Power Rangers doesn't stand a chance

[rmssw]

I doubt finding the target audience will be a problem.

It will be if it stays on ABC Kids and, if it airs in your market at all, airs at varying times or is pre-empted completely. RPM will be lucky to have half the audience of the previous few seasons between it not being aired at all in some markets, only airing at 5:00 or 6:00 in the morning when few kids are even awake to watch it in other markets, and being frequently pre-empted in the markets that show it at noon.

[Dr.Darkness]

You are not seeing the point. Even is Power Rangers goes on hiatus, it's chances aren't affected by Star Trek what so ever. If Star Trek doesn't come back on TV, it doesn't mean Power Rangers still can't.

[Dr.Darkness]

It will be if it stays on ABC Kids and, if it airs in your market at all, airs at varying times or is pre-empted completely. RPM will be lucky to have half the audience of the previous few seasons between it not being aired at all in some markets, only airing at 5:00 or 6:00 in the morning when few kids are even awake to watch it in other markets, and being frequently pre-empted in the markets that show it at noon.

Things might change in a few years though. Disney could very well decide put it back on Toon Disney aswell.

[NekoLLX]

It will be if it stays on ABC Kids and, if it airs in your market at all, airs at varying times or is pre-empted completely. RPM will be lucky to have half the audience of the previous few seasons between it not being aired at all in some markets, only airing at 5:00 or 6:00 in the morning when few kids are even awake to watch it in other markets, and being frequently pre-empted in the markets that show it at noon.

Case in point i have 3 ABC Channels (and 3 HD versions) here in socal.

Disney XD
ABC Family
ABC (normal)

RPM aired Once today on ABC
At 3:30 PM
With one episode
'Fade to black'

That was the soCal premier of RPM

[Xerox]

and i think you missed mine. If Star Trek can die and FOUR YEARS LATER isn't back on the air you think Power Ranger's is more resistant

I didn't miss anything you said. We're talking about two different things here. I never said that Power Rangers will necessarily stay on the air. I just said this will not be the very end. You're the one who argued back saying that Star Trek as a series is no more, when I wasn't even talking about Power Rangers as a live action series, per se. It's cool. I understand what you're getting at.

[NekoLLX]

I didn't miss anything you said. We're talking about two different things here. I never said that Power Rangers will necessarily stay on the air. I just said this will not be the very end. You're the one who argued back saying that Star Trek as a series is no more, when I wasn't even talking about Power Rangers as a live action series, per se. It's cool. I understand what you're getting at.

Well if you get my point that's cool I'm just trying to get people to realize that something being around for wile doesn't guarantee it immunity.

After all EGM, Computer Shopper magazine and the New York Post all shut down.

[twister111]

and i think you missed mine. If Star Trek can die and FOUR YEARS LATER isn't back on the air you think Power Ranger's is more resistant

Fact, Star Trek was cancelled. Fact, if it were not for Star Wars, Star Trek movies, Star Trek: The Next Generation, and beyond wouldn't have been created. Fact, they revived the series when they figured from Star Wars they could get money out of it. Fact, Power Rangers hasn't been cancelled yet (I consider a show cancelled when it's been more then a year with no new episodes. Since there's always a chance the higher ups'll change thier minds. Like with Starter Wife, that show got revived from fan support. Write to Disney!). Power Rangers already is more resistant to cancellation then pratically any other show out there.

:cool:

[Dr.Darkness]

I actually wouldn't say it is more resistant to anything out there, but I would say there is quite a high chance that it will be revived if it is canceled.

[NekoLLX]

I actually wouldn't say it is more resistant to anything out there, but I would say there is quite a high chance that it will be revived if it is canceled.

Higher then the religion of Star Trek though?

I'm more incliened to belive if PR is canceled were more likely to see Star Trek Generation NeXt before we see PR The Next Generation.

[Dr.Darkness]

No I mean resistence to being canceld, not revived.

[NekoLLX]

No I mean resistence to being canceld, not revived.

and again you belive PR is more resisnt to being cancled then the Holy Order of the Federation? Really when Star Trek can be cancled you really can't hold anything us up to it and say "this show has more staying power then star trek"

I can't think of one other TV show with people trying to deplare it a religion and schools teaching a made up language from the series as a Second Language (some school DO teach Klingon you know, not many but the fact they exist...)

[Dr.Darkness]

Neko, I never said PR is more resistent to being canceled than Star Trek. And according to you Star trek has already been canceled, so really, you can't compare the two. Stop roping Star Trek into this.

[rmssw]

Can we drop the Star Trek argument, please? It's pretty much completely irrelevant and has degraded into bickering. Let's get back on topic.

[Dr.Darkness]

Can we drop the Star Trek argument, please? It's pretty much completely irrelevant and has degraded into bickering. Let's get back on topic.

Lol, that is what I just said.

[RJ James]

and i think you missed mine. If Star Trek can die and FOUR YEARS LATER isn't back on the air you think Power Ranger's is more resistant

I think this argument is going in circles as Dr. Darkness never said that the new incarnation would be the series as we know it either. I have faith that we might see toys, an animated series, or even movies even if the series is dead.

[2580]

I work on a newspaper. I know how they work. Retractions, corrections, rebuttals. I know, I know, I know.

I also know that it's customary to fact-check dates and tenure. "3 years". Because General Crunch has been a recurring character... Misprints are never supposed to get that big. Typos are one thing... but one big mistake like that ruins the validity of the rest of the article.

I'm reminded of something that Gandhi once said:

"You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."

Granted the above quote isn't about validity and it's scope is much bigger, but I think you get the point: just because one fact in a newspaper is invalid, it doesn't necessarily mean that all of the article's facts are invalid.

I'm so sick of fandom and it's sheep-like tendency to believe everything they hear or read... even if it comes from an obscure and incorrect New Zealand newspaper. What level is this Herald on? Is it New York Post level or more New York Times. There is a huuuuge breadth of difference between the two... and if it's the former, then I absolutely put no heed in it whatsoever.

And I'm sick of smart people snubbing groups of people that they don't agree with by implying that they're stupid. The New Zealand newspaper might be obscure to us, but maybe not to the people of New Zealand. What do you mean by level? Reputation? Size of budget? Circulation? What? If it's reputation, then that's understandable, but anything else I think smells of elitism.

I'm hoping someone would just buy Power Rangers from Disney already. Enough with the milking, raping and dilution of our once heroic show for a few quick bucks. Disney should focus on their amusement parks.....and probably go away. Lol.

Agreed. It would be kind of weird for Disney to go away, but I wouldn't be troubled by it as long as the parks were sold to a company or companies that would properly maintain them.

[Turbo_Red]

Well for those wishing that Disney would sell the rights to Power Rangers, myself included, here's a little something that doesn't bode well for any of us. I found this on a site of Greg Weisman, co-creator of Gargoyles and supervising producer of The Spectactular Spider-Man.

2. Why was Gargoyles cancelled? Wasn't it fairly successful?

The short answer is that it didn't perform up to Disney's expectations. It did well enough, to the degree that it could be considered a hit (at least before The Goliath Chronicles). However, Disney really wanted it to outdo Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, and it failed to succeed at that.
3. How can we get Gargoyles back on the air?

For now, keep the flame alive. Get as many people as you can to watch the re-runs on Toon Disney, and come to the Gatherings. It wouldn't hurt to petition Disney either.


4. Would Disney ever consider selling the rights to Gargoyles?

No. They won't even let go of Clarabelle Cow. They don't want to take the risk that someone else could make a mint on their property and make them look bad.

So yeah, I wouldn't hold out any hope of Power Rangers ever ending up anywhere other than with Disney. Sure things can change someday, but it isn't very likely.

You realize it's the internet we're on?

I'm not being naive about this, lies flow regularly through this information highway. Just because something says someone said something, doesn't mean they did.

And from what people go on about with this whole "Oh even if the rumour changes, it was true at the time" garbage people use for a pro-PR cancelling argument in a twisted way, then most of what Disney "apparently" state as true at the time will be changed a few months later to PR coming back again.

So no, it's not good enough for me. I'm waiting until a year after RPM is finished, and then I'll know for real.

Why do you keep calling it garbage? So if a judge sentences you to death, has reason to change his mind at a later time or new evidence gets you out of jail altogether it suddenly becomes fiction that you in fact did spend time on death row? If for whatever reason Disney decides to bring back PR next season, the fact remains that at this point in time, they'd pulled the trigger on cancelling the show by telling the people working on the show that things were done. Are you going to try to tell me next that Family Guy was never cancelled because it's on TV now? Anyway, isn't now about the time that they start casting and filming anyway? Furthermore why is it that the sources are always reliable to people when giving information about the upcoming season long before we start seeing the commericals on Disney but with this, they're all suddenly a bunch of liars and people that have actually worked on the show are bitter jerks making things up when they confirm what sources say?

As for the newspaper article maybe, just maybe you're reading the article wrong and so determined to convince yourself ThisSpace that PR isn't coming to an end that you've drowned out the obvious point of what was being said in the line you've deemed inaccurate. Considering it's possible that being a voice actor only, he's been on the show for the past three seasons (and a simple check of his IMDB page shows that he's been on RPM, Jungle Fury and Operation Overdrive) it's possible that they mentioned his current character and just ran it along with the number of years he's worked on the show. It's a minor mistake and it doesn't hurt the credibilty of the article. Unless of course you're a huge PR fan who can't live with the idea of their beloved show no longer being what it once was.

I can understand all the denial if, as I said in the other thread, all the signs weren't there looking us in the face of Disney's slow phasing out of Power Rangers. You don't eliminate the Saban era of the show that just makes you so much money as you guys are suggesting. You don't cut down on the timeslots that the show that is supposed to be one of your station's biggest ratings draws has. You don't then rebrand your network to aim at boys in the demographic of said show and leave said show off that network that you're making a big deal about everywhere. You certainly don't make the only place to see said show during a timeslot on a station that half the country won't even get to see the new episodes. Yes I realize that we've had rumors of the show's end before, but none of them ever had these obvious signs accompanying them. If the show does continue for another year it's only a matter of time before Disney really does pull the plug then as these moves would be considered show suicide on any other network.

And for those rumors that some of you are trying to make out going back to Zeo...please stop the lying. There was absolutely NO chance of that show ending after Zeo like you're claiming. You know with the Turbo movie being made at that time and all and Bulk and Skull being slated to get their own TV show that left them out of the first half of Turbo. So yeah, that definitely wasn't the case. Turbo had done pretty poorly which obviously sparked the cast change and they decided they'd wrap up the story and end the series after Space. Fortunately Space did well and re-energized the franchise. Then of course we got the rumors of the end after Wild Force and the show WAS going to end then as Disney simply wanted Fox Family and the way the show was being produced at the time simply cost too much. Doug Sloan saved the show by giving the idea of moving the show to New Zealand. As for the "rumors" after Operation Overdrive or Mystic Force I can't remember exactly, there's a difference between rumors and sources actually confirming the end of the show. The rumors that came then (and I like how this has been left out) came based on Ron Wasserman menitoning he was doing music for an animated PR which we now see is true. There was never mention by him or any sources that the show was ending, it was speculation among the fanbase that the logical thing would be for the live action show to end in place of this "rumored" animated show. There's a difference between that and this. As for why it was going around that JF would be the end, it was going to be the end, but as mentioned it didn't happen because of contractual obligations.

As I said, I can understand why you guys don't want this to be the end and despite what you want to believe or how YOU define cancellation, in the entertainment business cancellation doesn't come when people decide that it's been a certain amount of time since they've seen a new episode or we have to wait until the usual season premiere time. The higher ups say that a show is cancelled and it is unless they change their minds at some point.

[rmssw]

I think you're blowing one piece of slightly misinterpreted information on the part of the writer of the article way out of proportion and as much as you would like it to, it does not invalidate the entire rest of the piece. The key information in there is the quote from Sally Campbell stating they would not be filming another season at this stage. She's certainly credible and would certainly know what was going on.

[rmssw]

Uh-huh. The fact remains that it's entirely too early, in my opinion, for any sort of judgment to be called on the future of the franchise.

...except for the people who are or have been involved in making the show...all of whom seem to be saying the same thing.

And yes, I am aware of what liable means...and the misprint in the article amounts to nothing and certainly bears no significance on the information provided in the rest of the article. It probably went something like this...the guy told the interviewer he worked with the show for three years...the interviewer went on Wikipedia and saw that he was playing General Crunch and assumed that had been his character all along...Is that thorough journalism? No. Will Disney or the actor sue her for libel? No. Does it matter? No.

[Jiemusu]

I just want to make it clear what side I'm on. I'm not denying RPM is the last or not the last. I'm saying that none of us can know for sure until a year passes and we discover naturally. It could be either way.

Turbo Red. tl;dr, you're just posting run-on sentences when you don't need to.

It can be summed up much simply.

"If something is deemed right at the time, but needs to be changed later, then it was obviously faulty at the time and shouldn't be applied to the final conclusion."

Power Rangers AT THE TIME was supposed to end at Jungle Fury, and it hasn't. So obviously, that rumour was wrong. Even if they had the intent of cancelling it at the time, in the end when it came to the crunch, that rumour ended up being false eventually.

I recall the same thing being said about Operation Overdrive too.

If Power Rangers continues this pattern then AT THE TIME Power Rangers will end at RPM, then later on it will be changed. So even if it's true that RPM is the last now, in the future they're will be other seasons after RPM.

It's faulty to go down this belief.

We shouldn't buy something as fact just because it's "rumoured" to at the time.

Let's look at a related analogy.

Take writing an essay for college. You write the first draft of an essay, thinking you've done the task set, answered the question and brought in information from a range of sources. You hand the first draft in, and it only gets a C.

The teacher explains that you need to link the paragraphs correctly, and that some areas lack accuracy in their outlining or depth in their evaluation.

What do you do? Go back and redraft that essay. Then you have a second draft that you hand in, it ends up being an A.


When the deadline comes, which essay do you hand in?

The faulty 1st draft that, before checking with the professor, you thought was right at the time.

Or.

The correct 2nd draft that, with confirmation, has been proven right by the professor.

The second one, you go with the claim that ended up being true, not the one that was true at the time.

It's the same thing.

Thinking on impulse is good, acting on impulse is not.

I'm not saying RPM isn't the last. I wouldn't be suprised if it was the last to be honest. I mean I've seen previews, it looks like they're putting ALOT of effort into RPM. That indicates the me that it could be the last. I'm saying we shouldn't freak out until we are 100% sure.

[rmssw]

And you need to understand that even a remedial understanding of how the television industry works says that we'll know if RPM is the last long before a year passes. A lot of things have to be done before a show ever gets on the air. There's a reason why we always know the title of the next season sometimes close to a year before the show debuts. Things have to be licensed, copywritten, rights need to be secured...all things that leave a trail that we would know about. I think the final nail in the coffin will be the licensing show in June. If Disney doesn't show any evidence of Power Rangers then, we'll know that there will not be a new season of Power Rangers in 2010.

[Green Elephant]

But we barely got ANY info about RPM before December.

[rmssw]

But we barely got ANY info about RPM before December.

The title was rumored for quite a while before that and there was a (very small) display at the licensing show in June. Usually every year the first clue we get is the copywriting of potential titles by Disney, then we see something at the licensing show. If neither of those things happen, we can probably be assured that there will be no Power Rangers in 2010, not just because it's what has happened in the past, but because it's what NEEDS to happen in order for the show to be on the air. That's just how it is for all TV shows like this.

[NekoLLX]

The title was rumored for quite a while before that and there was a (very small) display at the licensing show in June. Usually every year the first clue we get is the copywriting of potential titles by Disney, then we see something at the licensing show. If neither of those things happen, we can probably be assured that there will be no Power Rangers in 2010, not just because it's what has happened in the past, but because it's what NEEDS to happen in order for the show to be on the air. That's just how it is for all TV shows like this.

so basicly all the people who refuse to bive waht all the cast an crew of the show are saying will get their indisputable proof in 3 months time right?

[rmssw]

so basicly all the people who refuse to bive waht all the cast an crew of the show are saying will get their indisputable proof in 3 months time right?

Indisputable? Not necessarily. Pretty freaking conclusive? Absolutely.

[Green Elephant]

So, we shouldn't believe any rumors earlier than June?

[Dr.Darkness]

Once again, this whole conversation has gone around in yet another circle. This is one freakin article people. Seriously, the same things get said over and over again. It is way to early for this kind of thread in the frst place. You guys get over-dramatic over what one person said. I am not saying Power Rangers will continue or will end, all I am saying is, stop getting so hyped-up over a small comment someone made.

[PRangerX]

I never even knew it was supposedly cancled after Wildforce.

Zeo was, at the time, the biggest failure ever. A new series coming off an IMMENSELY popular old series, and starting a bad trend. It also had subpar special effects compared to the orignal, recycled music, recycled storylines, costumes looked Pre-schoolish, Rita and Zedd, who IMO were the some of the best villains ever, and up until PRiS were THE BEST, shoved to the side for the really not so well designed Machine People....

However Turbo QUICKLY and effectively DESTROYED the idea the good actors, good costumes, and good specail effects a good series makes. Zeo looked like a Freaking hemingway npovel comparatively speaking for story and what not. And this brought Zeo's popularity up, to little, to late. and its becuase of hte under preformance of Zeo, the MMPR movie, and turbo both ratings wise and box offcie wise, whywe have no DVD seaons box sets.

Hence we have one of the BEST PR seasons ever in PRiS becuas they learned what Americans liked and wanted. GOOD Costummes, GOOD special effects, good acting, and MOST IMPORTANTLY a Storyline that continued to intrigue a now TEENAGE audience. Lost Galaxy in particular, and to some extent Lightspeed Rescue and Timeforce continued on in this fashion.

Enter Disney and the whole thing goes to ***. Jungle fury was probably the absolute LAST straw, both it and Mystic force were apparently FAR better in the Japanese versions.(At the very lest the pilots were better, I can't say the entire series was for sure, but I strongly suspect it when pilots are usually the best of a series). mystic force in particular disappointed me as is up until the end they had me hooked, but that ending was trash. Where as I have said before MMPR was a vast improvement over Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger.

essentially if it were canned now, it would be the most appropriate time to do so IMO, or better yet sell it off to someone that knows and appreciates an American audience of YOUNG adults. i bet anything the people that made blade and underworld would do a VERY nice job at this......

Zeo was a failure yes ( its popular among the fandom but that doesn't equal ratings and toy sales). But Turbo and Space stablized things. LG season 1 got the highest ratings out of any PR season. Season 2 saw the ratings down. LG season 2-WF were failures in terms of ratings and toy sales. NS-SPD actually saw things go up. Its MF-JF that saw things go down again.

[PRangerX]

Once again, this whole conversation has gone around in yet another circle. This is one freakin article people. Seriously, the same things get said over and over again. It is way to early for this kind of thread in the frst place. You guys get over-dramatic over what one person said. I am not saying Power Rangers will continue or will end, all I am saying is, stop getting so hyped-up over a small comment someone made.

The problem is some people are in complete denail that Power Rangers has been cancelled. You can't just simply dismiss the credible sources, Eddie's comments, pr's banishment to ABC Kids with almost no promotion, and the article in question here. And its not like the show wasn't almost canceled after Jungle Fury. Anybody that thinks PR isn't cancelled is living in lalala land. There is not going to be an official press release. RPM will just finish up and that will be that (until some sort of revival).

Also someone said something about PR continuing as long as their is Super Sentai. That just isn't true. Power Rangers will continue as long as its profitable for Disney. And truth be told its really never been that profitable during there tenure. And really for most of the Saban years. Power Rangers costs a lot of money to produce.

Toei and Bandai are the ones making the most money right now. Toei makes more money off of PR then it does Super Sentai.

[Dr.Darkness]

Once again, I am not taking sides. It honestly doesn't matter to me wheter or not it is canceled. It already has so much already, and there are a lot of loyal fans.

[2580]

The fact remains that if you want your publication to be regarded as reputable, such things as date checking are pertinent in seeking that goal.

The fact that that 3 years thing went to press, so to speak, is enough to discredit the entirety of not only that article, but the entire paper. These are rudimentary things one learns in journalism. Slip ups are made, yes... but dates are almost NEVER screwed up.

This distinction between dates and all other misprints means nothing to anyone not working for a newspaper. Getting dates wrong is bad, sure, but it doesn't seem any worse to me than getting a name or place wrong.

That isn't what I was doing at all... That's how you interpreted it?

How else could it be interpreted? Sheep are so stupid that they would probably die if they wandered away from their flock and shepherd.

Reputation. Obviously. Did you read what I wrote?

Yes I did. When you called the paper insignificant, it brought to mind things like budget and circulation, so I wasn't quite sure what you meant by level. Level really doesn't tell me anything specific. If you had maybe said something like "level of the paper's reputation," it would be obvious what you meant.

Don't try to make me out to be the bad guy simply because I refuse to believe any of this mess until there's absolutely no room left to hope.

You seem to be confusing me with someone who has formed an opinion on the issue of Power Rangers ending or not ending after R.P.M.

Disney is always painted as the Big Bad in this fandom, and it's just ridiculous. As if Saban ever did any better. As a matter of fact, had Saban still been in control, Power Rangers would have ended over a decade ago. Heck, if the rumors about Power Rangers ending were EVER true, Power Rangers would have ended a decade ago...

If PR had ended ten years ago, it wouldn't have been a bad thing because then it would've ended with Countdown to Destruction Part 2, which was a very fitting end to the series. Saban continued to be in charge of PR production through most of Wild Force and even if Saban hadn't finished all of Wild Force, PR would've ended around the end of 2002, which would mean that PR would've ended at least six years ago (counting from the end of 2002 to the end of 2008), not a decade. Numbers with no ties to the real world can be rounded up, but not years. For somebody that made a big stink about the accuracy of dates, you sure made a big mistake with them.

What's so wrong about holding out until it's absolutely indisputable that Power Rangers is over?

Nothing and I never said that there was something wrong with it.

And if it does die, I can only hope the fandom goes with it. More than anything, I regret discovering this contingency of hard-hearted, hard-headed, completely narrow-minded people. It's like crack... The fandom sullies most of my enjoyment of the series, and yet I can't pull myself away from it because of the rare person who I can intelligently discuss the series with... But, I'm tired. If Power Rangers does die, I can only pray it takes the fandom with it.

Yeah. I said it.

Don't try to make me out to be the bad guy simply because I refuse to believe any of this mess until there's absolutely no room left to hope.

Looks like I don't have to; you do a pretty good job of it without my help. Discussing something is one thing but pointing a finger at a group of people and accusing them of undesirable traits that you've probably possessed at one time or another is just silly.

[Dr.Darkness]

The sad part is that someone believes that they can "intelligently discuss" people changing into spandex to fight rubber suited monsters and taking orders from a giant floating head.

TSFR,Fandom is like that. Hell,society is like that. Just because people don't agree with you in a simple matter makes them not as intelligent as you. To be honest, your first couple of post in this thread made me believe that your logical thinking was deluded by fanboy/girlishness. You've have proven me wrong on that, but don't look down on people because there knowledge of PR(or anything else) isn't as vast as yours.

[NekoLLX]

The sad part is that someone believes that they can "intelligently discuss" people changing into spandex to fight rubber suited monsters and taking orders from a giant floating head.

TSFR,Fandom is like that. Hell,society is like that. Just because people don't agree with you in a simple matter makes them not as intelligent as you. To be honest, your first couple of post in this thread made me believe that your logical thinking was deluded by fanboy/girlishness. You've have proven me wrong on that, but don't look down on people because there knowledge of PR(or anything else) isn't as vast as yours.

Boobs

That is all

((somone had to lighten the mood))

[2580]

Boobs

That is all

((somone had to lighten the mood))

(LOL) Thank you for that. :)

[Mnikolic]

Zeo was a failure yes ( its popular among the fandom but that doesn't equal ratings and toy sales). But Turbo and Space stablized things. LG season 1 got the highest ratings out of any PR season. Season 2 saw the ratings down. LG season 2-WF were failures in terms of ratings and toy sales. NS-SPD actually saw things go up. Its MF-JF that saw things go down again.

As I recall, LG was just a single season. It had no second season:

MMPR S1 - Season 1
MMPR S2 - Season 2
MMPR S3 - Season 3
PRZ - Season 4
PRT - Season 5
PRiS - Season 6
PRLG - Season 7
PRLR - Season 8
PRTF - Season 9
PRWF - Swason 10
PRNS - Season 11
PRDT - Season 12
PR S.P.D. - Season 13
PRMF - Season 14
PROO - Season 15
PRJF - Season 16
PR R.P.M. - Season 17

The problem is some people are in complete denail that Power Rangers has been cancelled. You can't just simply dismiss the credible sources, Eddie's comments, pr's banishment to ABC Kids with almost no promotion, and the article in question here. And its not like the show wasn't almost canceled after Jungle Fury. Anybody that thinks PR isn't cancelled is living in lalala land. There is not going to be an official press release. RPM will just finish up and that will be that (until some sort of revival).

Also someone said something about PR continuing as long as their is Super Sentai. That just isn't true. Power Rangers will continue as long as its profitable for Disney. And truth be told its really never been that profitable during there tenure. And really for most of the Saban years. Power Rangers costs a lot of money to produce.

Toei and Bandai are the ones making the most money right now. Toei makes more money off of PR then it does Super Sentai.

I agree about everything that you said. PR is over. While there were moments, which made us, fans think that PR will be around as long as Sentai is, those moments are now gone.

Accept the fact, people. Power Rangers is over. R.P.M. is the final season. All good things come to an end someday.

[PRangerX]

As I recall, LG was just a single season. It had no second season:

MMPR S1 - Season 1
MMPR S2 - Season 2
MMPR S3 - Season 3
PRZ - Season 4
PRT - Season 5
PRiS - Season 6
PRLG - Season 7
PRLR - Season 8
PRTF - Season 9
PRWF - Swason 10
PRNS - Season 11
PRDT - Season 12
PR S.P.D. - Season 13
PRMF - Season 14
PROO - Season 15
PRJF - Season 16
PR R.P.M. - Season 17



I agree about everything that you said. PR is over. While there were moments, which made us, fans think that PR will be around as long as Sentai is, those moments are now gone.

Accept the fact, people. Power Rangers is over. R.P.M. is the final season. All good things come to an end someday.


LG was made back when PR still had a summer hatius. When I say LG Season 1 and LG season 2 I am refering to the two halves of the season. Fox Kids actually treated the second half of PR incarnations as new seasons until Time Force ( when PR ceased to have summer a hatius). Even though they aren't officially such.

Oh and PR may be over now. But it will be revived in some form. So there will be a new beginning. I think its pretty clear that the show is cancelled for now though.

[Raging Phoenix]

To be honest, if I look at how the first episodes of RPM looked I don't see them stopping now. It seems their funding is getting better, judging on the amount of footage and CGI they made extra. And after all we've had these rumours for two years now if not longer. First Overdrive would be the last season, then Jungle Fury would be the last before they went cartoon, then they would even stop after Jungle Fury and now it stops after RPM? Well, I'll just wait until the next episode is overdue and start to worry about it then. I don't want to sound like someone who thinks Power Rangers will never die, because I don't think any show will last forever, but RPM doesn't strike me as a last season before the doors close. It seems in an upward movement if anything.

Also, I'd like Power Rangers to continue simply because I love Sentai. How does that work? Well, no matter how you look at it, Power Rangers makes out part of the budget of Super Sentai. The fact Saban and now Disney buys the rights and the footage means more money is available to Super Sentai. Sure a share will end up as pure profit, but I think part of it is going into the budget of making new seasons. Power Rangers stopping or going cartoon would create a gap in that budget. I don't think that's such a good thing.

I must also say I enjoy seeing how they manage to adapt the footage and story into something completely different year in, year out and the additional battlizer and other things are just classic. It gives a bit of extra enjoyment of the Super Sentai season for me, if that makes sense.

[Ranger Black]

Maybe Power Rangers will only be takin a break for a few years. However, if it IS to end after RPM, let's hope it goes out in style, with Jason and Tommy fightin it out for supremacy lol

[Green Elephant]

After seeing the first two episodes, I am having my doubts about it dying.

The two episodes collectively used about 10-15 minutes of Sentai footage.

Making so much of it original footage, particularly with the level of CGI that ep 1 had, is an incredible commitment of time and money, particularly when they had alternate footage (the Go-Onger pilot) ready to go almost immediately.

Why would they put so much into a show they are killing?

[Dr.Darkness]

After seeing the first two episodes, I am having my doubts about it dying.

The two episodes collectively used about 10-15 minutes of Sentai footage.

Making so much of it original footage, particularly with the level of CGI that ep 1 had, is an incredible commitment of time and money, particularly when they had alternate footage (the Go-Onger pilot) ready to go almost immediately.

Why would they put so much into a show they are killing?


To make it shine if it is the last maybe.

But I am not saying I am right.

[rmssw]

Disney told Eddie Guzelian to basically do whatever he wanted because he had nothing to lose since the show was being cancelled. That could explain the apparently higher production values. I don't know what we can expect once the Judd Lynn episodes start, but I think we're in for a good ride up through at least episode 18.

I disagree that it's too early for a thread like this...there is too much evidence and too many statements regarding the cancellation of the show. It deserves to be discussed. However, anything is still possible. When it comes right down to it, Power Rangers is still relatively cheap and simple to produce, so it's not like Disney wouldn't be able to change their minds. I just don't think they will.

[Dr.Darkness]

Disney told Eddie Guzelian to basically do whatever he wanted because he had nothing to lose since the show was being cancelled. That could explain the apparently higher production values. I don't know what we can expect once the Judd Lynn episodes start, but I think we're in for a good ride up through at least episode 18.

I disagree that it's too early for a thread like this...there is too much evidence and too many statements regarding the cancellation of the show. It deserves to be discussed. However, anything is still possible. When it comes right down to it, Power Rangers is still relatively cheap and simple to produce, so it's not like Disney wouldn't be able to change their minds. I just don't think they will.

I see your point, but I am still not convinced on either side. I hope it continues, but I am not going to make myself think that it won't be cancel.

[Mr. Yellow]

I thought maybe that the themes and appear of Shinkenger had anything to do with Disney's choice not to do Power Rangers based off it.

[Green Elephant]

what about the season AFTER Shinkenger? I assume that Toei has no intention of stopping AND they usually do themes back-to-back that are opposite in nature.

[Mr. Yellow]

They seem reluctant to do many things that had any Japanese references, so they re shoot scenes. I say, what's wrong with the Power Rangers having some Japanese references in their powers of sorts? And no, Toei has no intention of stopping, Sentai was around way before Power Rangers, and it will continue long after Power Rangers.

[rmssw]

I haven't seen much of Shinkenger, but from what I have seen, it looks better than Go-onger...a lot better, in fact. So, if Disney can make Go-onger as good as they apparently are, I would feel fine with them adapting Shinkenger should they choose to do so. I'm quite impressed with the Mecha...and I think Disney could easily avoid having to say that they're based on origami. As for the rest of the themes, they can do what they've done with the other heavily Asian-inspired seasons and say the Rangers are part of a magical martial arts school.

So, I really don't think Shinkenger had anything to do with the cancellation. In any case, the decision apparently was made long before Shinkenger's themes were ever revealed.

[Dr.Darkness]

I haven't seen much of Shinkenger, but from what I have seen, it looks better than Go-onger...a lot better, in fact. So, if Disney can make Go-onger as good as they apparently are, I would feel fine with them adapting Shinkenger should they choose to do so. I'm quite impressed with the Mecha...and I think Disney could easily avoid having to say that they're based on origami. As for the rest of the themes, they can do what they've done with the other heavily Asian-inspired seasons and say the Rangers are part of a magical martial arts school.

So, I really don't think Shinkenger had anything to do with the cancellation. In any case, the decision apparently was made long before Shinkenger's themes were ever revealed.

Shinkenger is awesome.

There was also a lot of Japanese Writing in Ninja Storm, but that didn't seem to bother them. Didn't bother me.

[veylre]

Okay...forgive me... I know I'm Johnny-Come-Lately to this thread but after almost an hour of reading all the fluff, crying & sobs... and watching everybody prepare to stand stalwart in the moonlight and wait for the End with the executioner's bullet.... would it not behoove us to start a formal writing campaign/petition/whatever... Last I checked the House of Mouse (Disney) is being slapped by the economy like the rest of us. If a proper show of concern is voiced for the program - would not they and/or the sponsors realize that cancellation is inapropriate?

[Hidden Ranger]

I don't know yet if this is the last Power Rangers show, and heck, there was a time when Power Rangers in Space was going to be the absolute last show in the franchise, and that was more than a decade ago. The distinct increase in quality from Turbo to PRiS helped pull the franchise out of its nosedive, and it's had more seasons after that than it's had prior to that, even though the threat of absolute cancellation has been looming over the franchise's head for years. So we've heard all this before, and for all we know, Power Rangers could pull out of another nosedive.

But even in the likelihood that this is the final season, I'm not terribly broken up about it. First of all, Power Rangers has had more seasons than most shows I know about, even those that are far superior in quality. Seven seasons is more than most shows (regardless of genre or target audience) can hope for, and Power Rangers has had over twice that throughout its many reiterations.

Second, I firmly believe the franchise would be going out on a high note. Heck, this past year or so has been amazing in terms of the tokusatsu genre. While I didn't care for Gekiranger and I certainly had a low opinion of Operation Overdrive, I enjoyed Jungle Fury from the first second, and I don't care what anyone else says. I've been completely uninterested in Go-Onger, but I was floored by how dark and mature Kamen Rider: Dragon Knight turned out to be. And now Shinkenger and RPM are kicking butt right out of the gate, the former getting it right on every level (great costume designs, great mythos, great zords, intriguing characters and conflict) and the latter kicking so much butt that one barely notices how goofy the zords look. This has been a great year for tokusatsu, so if the Power Rangers leg of it ends with this season, it'd be going out with style. The only downside for me would be that I wouldn't be able to see how PR adapts Shinkenger.

But that leads me to the third point: we still have Super Sentai, and we still have the fan community. We fans have taken the fully-customizable nature of the Sentai/Rangers concept and run with it, leading to a wide variety of fanfics and RPGs. If this continues, then the fans are going to be making Ranger versions of Sentai shows for years to come. On this board, there's already an RPG (G.E.R.E.) that has adapted Shinkenger's costumes, mecha, and villains -- I'm sure there will be more RPGs that will do the same. And I've seen fan material that's reached back into past Sentai shows that existed before PR, from Jetman on back. And then there's that whole 'making up teams and costumes completely from scratch' thing. As long as fans don't completely jump ship, there's still plenty to keep us busy.

'Course, for me there's a fourth thing as well: I'm interested in more fandoms than just Power Rangers/Super Sentai. There's also comic book superheroes, Transformers, and other things to keep me busy. But I dunno, I might be called a traitor for bringing that one up. So I won't. :)

[Dr.Darkness]

I don't know yet if this is the last Power Rangers show, and heck, there was a time when Power Rangers in Space was going to be the absolute last show in the franchise, and that was more than a decade ago. The distinct increase in quality from Turbo to PRiS helped pull the franchise out of its nosedive, and it's had more seasons after that than it's had prior to that, even though the threat of absolute cancellation has been looming over the franchise's head for years. So we've heard all this before, and for all we know, Power Rangers could pull out of another nosedive.

But even in the likelihood that this is the final season, I'm not terribly broken up about it. First of all, Power Rangers has had more seasons than most shows I know about, even those that are far superior in quality. Seven seasons is more than most shows (regardless of genre or target audience) can hope for, and Power Rangers has had over twice that throughout its many reiterations.

Second, I firmly believe the franchise would be going out on a high note. Heck, this past year or so has been amazing in terms of the tokusatsu genre. While I didn't care for Gekiranger and I certainly had a low opinion of Operation Overdrive, I enjoyed Jungle Fury from the first second, and I don't care what anyone else says. I've been completely uninterested in Go-Onger, but I was floored by how dark and mature Kamen Rider: Dragon Knight turned out to be. And now Shinkenger and RPM are kicking butt right out of the gate, the former getting it right on every level (great costume designs, great mythos, great zords, intriguing characters and conflict) and the latter kicking so much butt that one barely notices how goofy the zords look. This has been a great year for tokusatsu, so if the Power Rangers leg of it ends with this season, it'd be going out with style. The only downside for me would be that I wouldn't be able to see how PR adapts Shinkenger.

But that leads me to the third point: we still have Super Sentai, and we still have the fan community. We fans have taken the fully-customizable nature of the Sentai/Rangers concept and run with it, leading to a wide variety of fanfics and RPGs. If this continues, then the fans are going to be making Ranger versions of Sentai shows for years to come. On this board, there's already an RPG (G.E.R.E.) that has adapted Shinkenger's costumes, mecha, and villains -- I'm sure there will be more RPGs that will do the same. And I've seen fan material that's reached back into past Sentai shows that existed before PR, from Jetman on back. And then there's that whole 'making up teams and costumes completely from scratch' thing. As long as fans don't completely jump ship, there's still plenty to keep us busy.

'Course, for me there's a fourth thing as well: I'm interested in more fandoms than just Power Rangers/Super Sentai. There's also comic book superheroes, Transformers, and other things to keep me busy. But I dunno, I might be called a traitor for bringing that one up. So I won't. :)

Amen to that!!

[rmssw]

I don't know if anyone has posted this one yet:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03102009/tv/lights_out_for_power_rangers_158807.htm

Nothing new and it uses the NZ paper as a source, but the word is spreading...

[DaiRed]

I don't know if anyone has posted this one yet:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03102009/tv/lights_out_for_power_rangers_158807.htm

Nothing new and it uses the NZ paper as a source, but the word is spreading...

Dam it, even the post is believing an article that had its facts wrong. It didn't say anything in there about it ending, but that it was ending production in New Zealand!

[Titanium Ranger]

Umm, yeah, whatever. Good to see the source finally. But the only line that indicates the "end" is Sally saying there're no intentions as of yet for producing another season. RPM has just begun... imagine if RPM was the very first season of PR. You don't expect too much of a response or whatever and hence, it's not like just as soon as you start production, you start planning another season. I think Judd Lynn just has to settle down to things as the new EP before deciding on another season. They'll come around eventually, especially after seeing the way this season's shaping up.

Just noting something (I know it contradicts what I said but it's something I noticed) there does seem to be some sort of lacking in the visual effects department. I mean the explosions scenes and everything were cool but the ending credits look sort of amateur-ish. Personally, I like it being simple and to the point, but I can't help wondering maybe that's their way of showing they don't really care that much about the show (something just about everyone knows already)

I don't know if anyone has posted this one yet:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03102009/tv/lights_out_for_power_rangers_158807.htm

Nothing new and it uses the NZ paper as a source, but the word is spreading...

The article made me laugh. I feel like I'm thrown in the SPD timeline now, because that article seems to be from the future.

After 17 years, Disney has stopped producing new episodes of the show that was a pop-culture touchstone of the '90s.

Either they already finished shooting the entire series of RPM, the writer's grammar sucks or the article is what many believe it to be - a hoax.

[NekoLLX]

The article made me laugh. I feel like I'm thrown in the SPD timeline now, because that article seems to be from the future.

After 17 years, Disney has stopped producing new episodes of the show that was a pop-culture touchstone of the '90s.

Either they already finished shooting the entire series of RPM, the writer's grammar sucks or the article is what many believe it to be - a hoax.

you do know TV shows are filmed in advance of their release. Hell ALL FOURTY EPISODES of Kamen Rider Dragon Knight were filmed and in the can before the first episode hit air.

[Mr. Yellow]

I don't put much faith in the post, really.

[Green Elephant]

I find it difficult to believe a show ith more than 13 episodes is filmed all at once, even if they get it half done.

They probably have finished up to their first break (May).

[twister111]

I find it difficult to believe a show ith more than 13 episodes is filmed all at once, even if they get it half done.

They probably have finished up to their first break (May).

It's not impossible. I know from "Heroes" they had 13 episodes (of season 3) done before thier season three premiered. Applying that timetable to Power Rangers. 26 episodes minimum could be possible since, Heroes is an hour and, Power Rangers is a half hour. Then taking into consideration that about half of the possible footage is already produced. It's not unlikely that they have all the episodes filmed and, just doing post work on them now.

:cool:

[rmssw]

The filming season of Power Rangers has run from around October to around March since Disney took over. So yeah, it's likely that filming has wrapped on RPM and all that's left to do is post-production on probably the last half of the season or so. That should wrap up by May. Normally, that's when Disney would start gearing up for the next season with casting calls and such, but not this year...

[DaiRed]

The filming season of Power Rangers has run from around October to around March since Disney took over. So yeah, it's likely that filming has wrapped on RPM and all that's left to do is post-production on probably the last half of the season or so. That should wrap up by May. Normally, that's when Disney would start gearing up for the next season with casting calls and such, but not this year...

All rumors until announced from Disney otherwise.

[NekoLLX]

It's not impossible. I know from "Heroes" they had 13 episodes (of season 3) done before thier season three premiered. Applying that timetable to Power Rangers. 26 episodes minimum could be possible since, Heroes is an hour and, Power Rangers is a half hour. Then taking into consideration that about half of the possible footage is already produced. It's not unlikely that they have all the episodes filmed and, just doing post work on them now.

:cool:

and again, all 40 episodes of Kamen Rider Dragon Knight were inthe can before the first episdode aired, and like PR they use stock so.....

[AetherTeen]

Maybe someone else will pick it up and bring it back to the US. That way, I can acheive my life long dream of becoming a Power Ranger!

[rmssw]

All rumors until announced from Disney otherwise.

If you're waiting for Disney to make an announcement, you're going to be waiting a very long time...a very long time without seeing Power Rangers...

[DaiRed]

If you're waiting for Disney to make an announcement, you're going to be waiting a very long time...a very long time without seeing Power Rangers...

You don't think Disney will even announce it's over?

[rmssw]

You don't think Disney will even announce it's over?

No, I don't. If they were going to, they would have done it before RPM started to drum up ratings for the final season. If they cared that much, they wouldn't have moved the show to ABC Kids where it either airs at a time too early in the morning to be seen by most kids, at a time when it will get frequently pre-empted by sports or infomercials, or doesn't air at all, depending on your market's ABC affiliate. They would have kept it on Disney XD with lots of fanfare about it being the final season. The show is being quitely phased out. Like I've said before, the most definitive proof we'll have that the show is over will be the lack of information leaking out about a season next year. Each year, there's a small but usually fairly predictable stream of info that we get regarding the following year's season...domain names registered by Disney, casting calls, a display at the liscensing show in June, etc. These are all things that NEED to happen for there to be a show next year because they are part of the necessary process of Disney preparing the show for broadcast. If we don't see any of these things, there will be no more show, at least not in 2010.

[Turbo_Red]

Maybe someone else will pick it up and bring it back to the US. That way, I can acheive my life long dream of becoming a Power Ranger!

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but.....yeah, go ahead and read below.

Well for those wishing that Disney would sell the rights to Power Rangers, myself included, here's a little something that doesn't bode well for any of us. I found this on a site of Greg Weisman, co-creator of Gargoyles (the main guy responsible for the show) and supervising producer of The Spectactular Spider-Man.

2. Why was Gargoyles cancelled? Wasn't it fairly successful?

The short answer is that it didn't perform up to Disney's expectations. It did well enough, to the degree that it could be considered a hit (at least before The Goliath Chronicles). However, Disney really wanted it to outdo Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, and it failed to succeed at that.
3. How can we get Gargoyles back on the air?

For now, keep the flame alive. Get as many people as you can to watch the re-runs on Toon Disney, and come to the Gatherings. It wouldn't hurt to petition Disney either.


4. Would Disney ever consider selling the rights to Gargoyles?

No. They won't even let go of Clarabelle Cow. They don't want to take the risk that someone else could make a mint on their property and make them look bad.

So yeah, I wouldn't hold out any hope of Power Rangers ever ending up anywhere other than with Disney. Sure things can change someday, but it isn't very likely.

All rumors until announced from Disney otherwise.

*Face palms*

Can you please honestly tell me the last Disney show that they made a commerical or posted on their website was cancelled? I honestly don't know of Disney ever making an announcement about a show of theirs being cancelled. Also notice how the second rumors started flying about Hannah Montana being cancelled, Disney quickly shot those down. I suppose now they just haven't gotten word of the "rumors" yet huh?

This denial really is like a guy being found standing over his wife (whom he has a history of violence against) covered in blood and holding a smoking gun with a group of people all confirming he did the deed. Only problem is the group of people who weren't anywhere near the scene of the crime swearing the guy is innocent because they didn't actually SEE him do it.

[Super Jeff]

The whole selling rights make sence. Adult swim wanted to air Invader Zim but Nickelodian was afraid they would make it a better hit then what they did.

[ZeoX]

Originally Posted by Turbo_Red View Post
Well for those wishing that Disney would sell the rights to Power Rangers, myself included, here's a little something that doesn't bode well for any of us. I found this on a site of Greg Weisman, co-creator of Gargoyles (the main guy responsible for the show) and supervising producer of The Spectactular Spider-Man.

2. Why was Gargoyles cancelled? Wasn't it fairly successful?

The short answer is that it didn't perform up to Disney's expectations. It did well enough, to the degree that it could be considered a hit (at least before The Goliath Chronicles). However, Disney really wanted it to outdo Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, and it failed to succeed at that.
3. How can we get Gargoyles back on the air?

For now, keep the flame alive. Get as many people as you can to watch the re-runs on Toon Disney, and come to the Gatherings. It wouldn't hurt to petition Disney either.


4. Would Disney ever consider selling the rights to Gargoyles?

No. They won't even let go of Clarabelle Cow. They don't want to take the risk that someone else could make a mint on their property and make them look bad.

So yeah, I wouldn't hold out any hope of Power Rangers ever ending up anywhere other than with Disney. Sure things can change someday, but it isn't very likely.

Power ranger stands a better chance of being sold then Gargoyles. Gargoyles was produced DIRECTLY BY AND MARKETED BY DISNEY!!!! power rangers tarted off as a saban production and is NOT directly credited to disney. Until I jioned this place, I simply though Disney bought the RIGHTS TO AIR from Fox/Saban. So yeah they MIGHT let it go.

Heck I'm WILLING TO BET if I offered to buy/recieve the Production/air rights Rangers(if I had the money) and let them keep ALL the merchandise profits, they would probably jump...since I'd only be making money off the show's airing payments. Of course if i got a hold of power rangers, it would be more an adult sci-fi/sitcom format(think Star trek TNG/Voy), not as much a children's character build up show.

[Kero]

Hey which is the company that made Kamen Rider Dragon Knight?

I heard that the guy who was producing the series was a fan of the original japanese versions. Maybe if Power Ranger end up in his hands, he could make it better than ever!

[Titanium Ranger]

you do know TV shows are filmed in advance of their release. Hell ALL FOURTY EPISODES of Kamen Rider Dragon Knight were filmed and in the can before the first episode hit air.

and again, all 40 episodes of Kamen Rider Dragon Knight were inthe can before the first episdode aired, and like PR they use stock so.....

No I actually thought they shot the episodes the day before the release...

You do realize the level of difference between KRDK and PR right? Their producers actually seem to care for the show, Disney's don't. There are differences, which is why I asked. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing only half or so episodes are done, especially since Eddie was laid off not too long ago, and according to him, he had handed down the script for the 18th episode before he was fired. I'm guessing they should be filming halfway through or something...

Another reason for not believing is that I don't recall reading newspaper articles stating production on a season ended, or that a new season was being casted or something. If I'm wrong, my apologies but I think that news came from inside sources and wasn't splashed on newspapers?

[ZeoX]

okay I watched all three episodes of RPM.

that said.....

I don't think this is over.......I think Toel is going to run this themselves. Outside of the STUPID zords,i think this series is the best since Lost galaxy, although OO is second best (yes I like operation over drive, its no MMRP, but its better then a LOT of the newer (Jungle fury, wild force), and this has NOTHING markedly Disney on it(even the zords are toned down from their very Diseny esque sentai appearence. That would have been easy for them to run with)

Anyway on to proof there of:

In the ending credits, BVR (AKA Saban's company) is credited yes, BUT Disney's name deosn't appear at at, And Toel's name appears on the US credits, and not jsut the japansse. Also ranger productions is new.....

If toel is going to start running the American side of things too.....we're going to see some Legenddary Win and some epic fail, but it WILL be live action....

[ZiggyxDillonShipper]

It'll make it. I remember back in '93 or '94, the publicity from Morphin's 'adult substances' was the talk of the town. They were pretty close to shutting down production because of the clicker moms and their 'fears.' I mean, it was that graphic, just a couple of kids in spandex fighting robotically controlled morons. So, I for one, will not believe it 'till I see it.

[Turbo_Red]

Power ranger stands a better chance of being sold then Gargoyles. Gargoyles was produced DIRECTLY BY AND MARKETED BY DISNEY!!!! power rangers tarted off as a saban production and is NOT directly credited to disney. Until I jioned this place, I simply though Disney bought the RIGHTS TO AIR from Fox/Saban. So yeah they MIGHT let it go.

Heck I'm WILLING TO BET if I offered to buy/recieve the Production/air rights Rangers(if I had the money) and let them keep ALL the merchandise profits, they would probably jump...since I'd only be making money off the show's airing payments. Of course if i got a hold of power rangers, it would be more an adult sci-fi/sitcom format(think Star trek TNG/Voy), not as much a children's character build up show.

Gargoyles being produced and marketed by Disney means nothing. Someone coming along to take Power Rangers off of Disney's hands isn't this simple transaction that everyone seems to think it will be. You have to take off your PR fanboy glasses (like I have done) long enough to realize that Power Rangers is the black sheep of Hollywood/the entire industry of acting. It's like the worst possible thing to have on your resume and that's quite evident by the fact that only two or three people throughout the history of the show have found even minimal success in acting after their Ranger days (Amy Jo, Erin Cahill and Archie Kao).

There is no big market for a Power Ranger movie and as we've seen it's popularity as a television show has dwindled to almost nothingness. The reward is not worth the risk in pursuing the show, at least certainly not in these economic times in the world. No matter how you try to work it, Power Rangers will not be a big summer blockbuster movie, whereas a live action Gargoyles movie could make major bank. The only thing Power Rangers has going for it as far as the possibilty of it being bought from Disney is toy sales and like the show's ratings those aren't what they used to be.

Do you think that Disney is going to sell the franchise for cheap? Toei would get a cut of that sale and I'd imagine it'd be a rather nice chunk of it to. In order to get what I'm sure they think the show is worth, there is going to be a hefty pricetag on the show and paying that price is just too big a gamble for a show that jumped the shark about a decade ago.

I've gotta head out for work, but I'll continue this when I get home.

[NekoLLX]

actually their is one more. Johny young Bosch (Adam) not only was he in a rather bloddy kung fu movie. He is THE go to guy for voice acting and motion cpature. laluch of Code Geas is voiced by him. Bleaches Ichigo. And all the Mocap for Dante and Nero in Devil May Cry 4 is JYB

[Green Elephant]

Keith Robinson (Lightspeed Joel) was in Dreamgirls.

[thedefender]

Plain and Simple Disney has ruined everything PR

[ZiggyxDillonShipper]

Plain and Simple Disney has ruined everything PR

No kiddin'.

[ZeoX]

actually their is one more. Johny young Bosch (Adam) not only was he in a rather bloddy kung fu movie. He is THE go to guy for voice acting and motion cpature. laluch of Code Geas is voiced by him. Bleaches Ichigo. And all the Mocap for Dante and Nero in Devil May Cry 4 is JYB

AND is part of eyeshine.

Also JDF has had a few good roles, and could have commanded more if that's what he wanted. JYB though isn't the only PR guy to move on. St.Austin John has some movie roles too. basically anyone from MMPR has it good :P.

David Youst got some pretty decent roles in dramamentaries.

Machiko Soga (Rita Repulsa/bandora) has been in several children's shows since, although everything she shot was japanese, but Zyuranger was much earlier in japan.

Barbara Goodson (Rita Repulsa USA) has a freaking resume an ocean's wide, here's her IMDB page:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0329361/
ANime, children's shows, movies you name it.

same goes for one of the Zedd's:

Robert Axelrod
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0043498/


David fielding (Zordon) kinda got cast typed and was zues in an Olympian film, and couple other things of that natre.

Robert L. Manahan(another Zordon) has a huge list of post Rangers sound credits.

Paul Schrier (Bulk) has a pretty impressive resume(although Skull didn;t do so well):
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0775390/

So I beg to differ on PR being a dead end. I think Disney would let got of it at a REASONABLE(NOT dirt cheap) price if they wanted to offload it, and actually though, as I mentioned in another topic, looking at RPM's credits I think maybe they sold it to Toel.

[Turbo_Red]

Okay I didn't exactly make my point as clear as possible on the after-Ranger thing. I don't mean that people can't get jobs because obviously they can, but I'm talking about being apart of something relevant and respected in the industry. I actually forgot about Keith, but he is one of the fortunate few who have broken through from the show to actually getting himself out there.

But there is a reason that people like Amy Jo Johnson hated their Power Ranger past and it's because the show is a joke in the public eye outside of the hardcore fans like us that grew up with the show and whatever little kids were watching it nowadays. It's a joke in Hollywood and there won't be any huge markets for the show like there was during it's heyday that could make a new PR movie important. Again no matter how much we may like the franchise and the show in general, no one buys into people magically changing into multi-colored spandex and figting monsters in giant robots. Whereas a really good, serious movie could be made about the Gargoyles especially with all the Shakspeare and whatnot involved.

In fact I'm pretty sure that studios have been trying to get a Gargoyles movie going for years. Basically the whole point is that Disney isn't going to sell Power Rangers and even if they wanted to sell it, no one is going to take the risk on it because the return on the investment isn't worth it. While you may be willing to take on all the production costs of the show and allow Disney to keep the profit from the show, the people who actually matter (the ones that actually have the money to buy it) aren't interested in making things with no potential return profit.

[iamthegreenranger9084]

its about time, they've messed my show up long enough. If it does go off then im glad, i wouldn't miss any of this new crap because they are beating a dead horse and now they finally came to their senses. I not saying its a smart thing because of all the money their gonna lose out on, but they have more then enough it start on something else. They were just trying to make more money from a dead story-line show that i think offically ended if not after PRIS then definitly Wild Force.

[ThatGuy83]

PR died after Dino Thunder, RPM is the last hurrah for the show. It's been great so far. I don't mind the show ending. It's been a fun 17 years. RIP Power Rangers 1993-2009.

[Razor]

AND is part of eyeshine.

Also JDF has had a few good roles, and could have commanded more if that's what he wanted. JYB though isn't the only PR guy to move on. St.Austin John has some movie roles too. basically anyone from MMPR has it good :P.

David Youst got some pretty decent roles in dramamentaries.

Machiko Soga (Rita Repulsa/bandora) has been in several children's shows since, although everything she shot was japanese, but Zyuranger was much earlier in japan.

Barbara Goodson (Rita Repulsa USA) has a freaking resume an ocean's wide, here's her IMDB page:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0329361/
ANime, children's shows, movies you name it.

same goes for one of the Zedd's:

Robert Axelrod
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0043498/


David fielding (Zordon) kinda got cast typed and was zues in an Olympian film, and couple other things of that natre.

Robert L. Manahan(another Zordon) has a huge list of post Rangers sound credits.

Paul Schrier (Bulk) has a pretty impressive resume(although Skull didn;t do so well):
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0775390/

So I beg to differ on PR being a dead end. I think Disney would let got of it at a REASONABLE(NOT dirt cheap) price if they wanted to offload it, and actually though, as I mentioned in another topic, looking at RPM's credits I think maybe they sold it to Toel.

I heard that Skull is college professor now, teaching Drama.

[Titanium Ranger]

Gargoyles being produced and marketed by Disney means nothing. Someone coming along to take Power Rangers off of Disney's hands isn't this simple transaction that everyone seems to think it will be. You have to take off your PR fanboy glasses (like I have done) long enough to realize that Power Rangers is the black sheep of Hollywood/the entire industry of acting. It's like the worst possible thing to have on your resume and that's quite evident by the fact that only two or three people throughout the history of the show have found even minimal success in acting after their Ranger days (Amy Jo, Erin Cahill and Archie Kao).

Hold on... judging from the last few lines, you're saying that it's because of PR that they don't get acting jobs? What about their own acting skills/why acting in PR sucks in the first place? I doubt it's as much to do with PR. I think they still have auditions for stuff and IMO it might be more to do with the actors not coming up to par at the time. I dunno, saying that producers just shun PR actors or something because of just one TV show they did for a while seems kind of a stretch, especially if the actors actually auditioned well enough...

[TerryR]

its about time, they've messed my show up long enough. If it does go off then im glad, i wouldn't miss any of this new crap because they are beating a dead horse and now they finally came to their senses. I not saying its a smart thing because of all the money their gonna lose out on, but they have more then enough it start on something else. They were just trying to make more money from a dead story-line show that i think offically ended if not after PRIS then definitly Wild Force.

Agreed. Disney's series are okay but in reality are crap especially when compared to Saban's series. Power Rangers should have ended after C2D, thats when the true story, at least IMO, ended. Zordon dies, evil is destroyed and the universe is saved.

[TokuFan]

But then we wouldn't have Time Force. Everyone likes Time Force. Oh,and we wouldn't have Ninja Storm which was hilarious.

[Super Jeff]

But then we wouldn't have Time Force. Everyone likes Time Force. Oh,and we wouldn't have Ninja Storm which was hilarious.

Lothor proved that you can have a sence of humor while beating up rangers at the same time.

[grayguardianranger]

And finding out Dustin's name was Waldo was a pretty funny scene!

[2580]

But then we wouldn't have Time Force. Everyone likes Time Force. Oh,and we wouldn't have Ninja Storm which was hilarious.

Not having Time Force is something that always seems to make me hesitate to fully commit to the idea of PR ending after Space. However, if the seasons after Space were never produced and aired on television, we would never get the chance to watch them and grow fond of them, making it impossible for us to consider their absence as a drawback to PR ending after Space. :)

[Question]

http://henshinjustice.com/2009/03/20/breaking-news-power-rangers-lives/

BAM

[Kayube]

YESSS!!!!!!!

I guess they knew they had a winner on their hands with this one.

[NekoLLX]

so what season had "Jindrax" in it?

[DaiRed]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! In yo faces nonbelievers!

so what season had "Jindrax" in it?

Wild Force.

[Hidden Ranger]

Great news! I may get to see the PR adaptation of Shinkenger after all! Even better, I'd be able to get the figures for it without having to shell out an arm and a leg for the Japanese versions.

Even so, I'm still cautiously optiministic. It doesn't make a lot of sense to take the negative news with a grain of salt, only to instantly buy the first bit of good news that comes along. So, as before, I'll have a wait-and-see attitude.

[DaiRed]

Great news! I may get to see the PR adaptation of Shinkenger after all!

And that's one the best part of all this. I'm very much looking forward to Shinkenger. "Power Rangers Samurai Squadron." Eh?;)

You know what's gonna suck though? A year from now, we're gonna get these same damn discussions on whether it's ending or not.:rolleyes:

[Hidden Ranger]

And that's one the best part of all this. I'm very much looking forward to Shinkenger. "Power Rangers Samurai Squadron." Eh?;)

Maybe. I was thinking more along the likes of Power Rangers: Samurai Path", but I've also seen fans come up with titles like "Samurai Strike" and whatnot.

You know what's gonna suck though? A year from now, we're gonna get these same damn discussions on whether it's ending or not.:rolleyes:

Oh yeah. It's an annual tradition.