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Ernde38
03-05-2009, 06:55 PM
I subscribe to the theory that during "The Power Transfer", Zack, Trini, and Jason's power coins were duplicated, but the power "in" them was transferred to Adam, Aisha, and Rocky's power coins. However, not all of it was transferred, leaving very minimal power in the original three coins, which "could" explain why Adam, Aisha, and Rocky seemed a little less powerful than the original five rangers.

Now, I also believe that the Z-Wave restored Zack, Trini, and Jason's power fully, but not the other coins because they were damaged.

In "Once a Ranger" we know the Sentinel Knight restored Adam's power fully. Now Zack and Adam both have fully powered Mastodon coins.

So my question to the RT! members is, do you think Zack and Adam could sustain a morph with their separate power coins at the same time, as well as if Aisha and Rocky's were restored, if they and Trini and Jason could morph at the same time?

Also, I believe the Robots that were built on Eltar had their own Turbo morphers and keys. Do you think they (the robot Turbo Rangers) and the "real" Turbo Rangers could morph at the same time?

I'm wondering this because each has their own power source, which, IMO, would allow each one to morph without interfering with the dual source.

Razor
03-05-2009, 06:58 PM
Interesting thought.

It was stated in Dino Thunder that Trent and his fake could not both be sustained by the morphing grid (or somethng like that), so could do rangers with the same powers morph at once? That is a good question.

Jiemusu
03-05-2009, 07:15 PM
I subscribe to the theory that during "The Power Transfer", Zack, Trini, and Jason's power coins were duplicated, but the power "in" them was transferred to Adam, Aisha, and Rocky's power coins. However, not all of it was transferred, leaving very minimal power in the original three coins, which "could" explain why Adam, Aisha, and Rocky seemed a little less powerful than the original five rangers.

Now, I also believe that the Z-Wave restored Zack, Trini, and Jason's power fully, but not the other coins because they were damaged.

In "Once a Ranger" we know the Sentinel Knight restored Adam's power fully. Now Zack and Adam both have fully powered Mastodon coins.

Just wanna point out. I'm in agreement with all of this, and it's a view I think more members should probably take as a good explanation, while not canon, but highly possible. I pretty much treat it as factual since it explains everything and isn't really countered.

Also, related to the threads question.

Yes, two Rangers can exist at the same time, simply because it's already been seen, what with Trent in Dino Thunder, and technically Billy in Blue Ranger Gone Bad.

HOWEVER it's only short-term, since the morphin grid cannot sustain two of the same active Ranger power for too long, and the power would either fail or be lost, maybe reversable by sticking to one but then again (if it's sustained for too long) maybe not.

So Adam and Zack could exist as Black MMPR at the same time, but IMO they'll both be weaker (again seen with two of Billy) by about half compared to if only one of them were Black MMPR. They couldn't keep this up though.

I imagine it's the same with the Robot Turbo Rangers.

Even if they are using a different morpher, unlike Billy and his evil clone in MMPR2, the powers are still directed to the same point in the morphin grid. Personally I don't think using 1 morpher or 2 morphers make much difference, none that I can see anyway, since they're both linked to the same part of the morphin grid, but that's just me.

Durakken
03-05-2009, 07:17 PM
All 6 could morph using the dino coins as it stands right now, but Rocky and Aisha's (Tanya's? not sure how the time line was effected by that shift) would probably have problems of various degrees...including dying from it. It would be worse if Jason, Zack, and Trini used the powers to morph as well, but I think there is pretty strong evidence that the powers were duplicated, not transfered with the fact that the dino red ranger coin was full powered in forever red.

As far as how they'd react if they were fully powered, I think the power would be split and eventually one would break down...I think Jason, Zack, and Trini's power coin would last longer than the other coins though. I think Adam's coin's circuit were just fixed, not restored...so it's like he had his old copied power coin...but it could be better made after the repair and out last Zack's, but that is impossible to tell.

Jiemusu
03-05-2009, 07:25 PM
All 6 could morph using the dino coins as it stands right now, but Rocky and Aisha's (Tanya's? not sure how the time line was effected by that shift) would probably have problems of various degrees...including dying from it. It would be worse if Jason, Zack, and Trini used the powers to morph as well, but I think there is pretty strong evidence that the powers were duplicated, not transfered with the fact that the dino red ranger coin was full powered in forever red.

And what makes you think that Tommy's, Billy's and Kim's dino coins are in a different state to Rocky's and Aisha's anyway?

Ninja Quest affected them all.

Adam is excluded, what with Sentinal Knight restoring them.

You know what happened to Adam in PRIS, him almost dying. Yeah, that would happen to Tommy, Kim, Billy, Rocky and Aisha if they tried to morph with their dino powers.

Nothing was ever stated that Tommy, Billy and Kimberly were excluded from this, otherwise why would they need their ninja spirits? Nothing suggested that the power was restored later either.

And you realise the Power Transfer is called a transfer, and not a dublication for a reason right?

Read Ernde38's post. Coins dublicated, not power. Power transferred, hence power transfer, and Z wave restores it.

Durakken
03-05-2009, 07:27 PM
On that note it also raises a question of how many powers can be integrated into one?

I mean tommy, by the end of all of what we know, if he wanted to, could call on....

White TigerZord power
Red Zeo power
maybe Red Turbo, depending how those power were transferred
Black DinoThunder
and Possibly Green SPD

If he wanted to he could theoretically call all of those power at once. We know the powers can merge together via the Red/Green Ranger coins used together in s1, but how many powers can be merged and how does it decide appearance?

Durakken
03-05-2009, 07:32 PM
And what makes you think that Tommy's, Billy's and Kim's dino coins are in a different state to Rocky's and Aisha's anyway?

Ninja Quest affected them all.

Adam is excluded, what with Sentinal Knight restoring them.

And you realise the Power Transfer is called a transfer, and not a dublication for a reason right?

Read Ernde38's post. Coins dublicated, not power. Power transferred, hence power transfer, and Z wave restores it.

By all 6 i mean, Jason, Trini, Zack, Rocky, Adam, Aisha/Tanya, and i mean the coins duplicated not the power ^.^

The Dino coins for all the active rangers, save for Adam, are the same and Adam showed that they weren't destroyed. The coins were burned out, but could be used. Granted some of the coins could be more or less damaged but it should be assumed they function, but its dangerous to use them. Remember Adam appeared before Sentinel restored the coin in an episode using the Mastadon Coin.

Jiemusu
03-05-2009, 07:32 PM
On that note it also raises a question of how many powers can be integrated into one?

I mean tommy, by the end of all of what we know, if he wanted to, could call on....

White TigerZord power
Red Zeo power
maybe Red Turbo, depending how those power were transferred
Black DinoThunder
and Possibly Green SPD

If he wanted to he could theoretically call all of those power at once. We know the powers can merge together via the Red/Green Ranger coins used together in s1, but how many powers can be merged and how does it decide appearance?

Wait, where are you getting this all from? All of that was never stated ever.

Tommy's White coin, Kim's Dino coin and Billy's Dino coin are in the same state as Aisha's and Rocky's.

Nothing has disproven that.

If any of them tried to morph, it'll be a repeat of what happened to Adam in PRIS.

Jiemusu
03-05-2009, 07:35 PM
By all 6 i mean, Jason, Trini, Zack, Rocky, Adam, Aisha/Tanya, and i mean the coins duplicated not the power ^.^

Ah ok, miscommunication there. I get you now.

The Dino coins for all the active rangers, save for Adam, are the same and Adam showed that they weren't destroyed. The coins were burned out, but could be used. Granted some of the coins could be more or less damaged but it should be assumed they function, but its dangerous to use them. Remember Adam appeared before Sentinel restored the coin in an episode using the Mastadon Coin.

They can still be used but it almost killed Adam in PRIS, it may kill the rest of his team too. Adam was only lucky.

So they weren't destroyed as objects, the objects still exist, but I guess you can say they've shortfused.

For an analogy, if you break a cell phone, the object of the phone still exists but the phone won't turn on.

Durakken
03-05-2009, 07:37 PM
Wait, where are you getting this all from? All of that was never stated ever.

Tommy's White coin, Kim's Dino coin and Billy's Dino coin are in the same state as Aisha's and Rocky's.

Nothing has disproven that.

If any of them tried to morph, it'll be a repeat of what happened to Adam in PRIS.

Yes...but Adam was still able to use the power, just not for long. Like I said he could still call on the power...just no idea for how long. and that has nothing to do with this...I'm asking how the morphing grid would determine is morphed form.

Beta Ranger
03-05-2009, 07:41 PM
I've always wondered if Billy just swapped the six ninja coins for replicas (or even quarters) and never said anything as the Rangers at the time were too young and then unlocked the zeo powers. Obviously their is nothing in the show to back this up (unless you count the costumes at the back of the Power Chamber, which I don't) I've just always liked that idea.

As for sustaining two Rangers with the same power, it was established in Wild West Rangers that it was dangerous to draw too much from the morphing grid, which was why their was no Wild West Pink Ranger, I'd say sustainable but dangerous.

As for Turbo and Robo-turbo, I think they'd be drawn from different power sources, Turbo from Earths morphing grid, Robo-turbo from Eltars.

Jiemusu
03-05-2009, 07:42 PM
Yes...but Adam was still able to use the power, just not for long. Like I said he could still call on the power...just no idea for how long. and that has nothing to do with this...I'm asking how the morphing grid would determine is morphed form.

I get what you're saying, so you're saying that at the time Adam (and presumably Rocky, Aisha, Billy, Kim and Tommy too since nothing shows otherwise) were still connected to the morphin grid after Ninja Quest.

Even if the power could have killed then, hence why they had to change, they were still connected, hence why Adam could still morph in PRIS. Yeah, I do agree with that.

Also, on the notion of how long one of the MMPR Rangers can be determined to keep the power. I'm very much in the idea that Jason, Trini and Zack's coins are only charged temporaraly.

I'm thinking "Return Of An Old Friend" when Zordon temporaraly charged Tommy's Green Ranger coin, just... on a much larger scale.

Since the Z Wave was, after all, still Zordon's energy, the same energy that gave the Green MMPR powers a second try for the time being.

Durakken
03-05-2009, 07:56 PM
See but the thing is the Dino Coins aren't power by Zordon...none of the powers were other than Green Ranger and White Ranger...and possibly Space Rangers and Turbo

Dino Coins, Ninja coins, and Aquitian Power rangers were powered from 3 sources initially, themselves, Ninjor, and morhping grid... after they were transferred and if Ninjor was cut off they were powered by the Morphing grid...then again the Zords could have been the only thing powered by Ninjor too...

Zeo Rangers were powered by the Zeo Crystal

Turbo, White Ranger Powers, and Space Rangers powered by Zordon and the morphing grid, which as I said are debatable as Turbo's power source is never stated, white Ranger is never stated to be powered by zordon, just by good, and space rangers were never stated as far as i know... but they must have been other wise their powers would still be in tact at the end which they are in forever red which accounts for that.

Others from what I know are powered by various gems, relics, and the morphing grid.


Each of the original ninja rangers could actually call forth their Powers at any time as the majority of the power, before they were separated from the coins came from them, not the morphing grid or Ninjor. So theoretically Tommy, Billy, Adam, Rocky, and Aisha? could call on the Ninja power at any time, though not for long (Kim couldn't because she exhausted all the power to do so and transferred her powers from herself to Kat, making it like the dino coin)

I think if anything the Z-wave reconnected Jason's Dino coin to the morphing grid the way it was supposed to be. I think the way they were connected previously was due to Zordon experimenting, though that's not backed up, it is plausible since the powers were for some reason tied into the command center, but existed before the command center existed so it is likely a lot of the problems with depowering in the early years were caused due to a large part to Zordon and Rita's messing with the Dino coins

Jiemusu
03-05-2009, 08:13 PM
See but the thing is the Dino Coins aren't power by Zordon...none of the powers were other than Green Ranger and White Ranger...and possibly Space Rangers and Turbo

Dino Coins, Ninja coins, and Aquitian Power rangers were powered from 3 sources initially, themselves, Ninjor, and morhping grid... after they were transferred and if Ninjor was cut off they were powered by the Morphing grid...then again the Zords could have been the only thing powered by Ninjor too...


I know Ninjor created the power, but we have seen on the show in the episode 'Return Of An Old Friend' that it is possible for Zordon to temporaraly restore the powers that Ninjor created, as well as provide new zords for them (Thunderzords).

What I'm saying is, if Zordon's direct energy to Tommy's Dragon coin restored his powers, then a full wide radius blast of the same energy would do the same for Jason, Zack and Trini's coin. Again it will only be temporaraly, but maybe because of the increase in the power as well as the chaotic distrupution of the radius, the 'battery power' if you will, will be longer.

And I don't think Zordon created the Green Ranger power, many are under the idea that Ninjor created it, Rita stole it, and Zordon just accepted the holder into the team with the rest of the powers Ninjor created.

But I think I might be getting at what you're hinting. Because of the difference in creators, are you saying that produces a significance in difference on how the two creators' powers relate to the morphin grid, and if that affects two of the same Rangers at one time or not?

Each of the original ninja rangers could actually call forth their Powers at any time as the majority of the power, before they were separated from the coins came from them, not the morphing grid or Ninjor. So theoretically Tommy, Billy, Adam, Rocky, and Aisha? could call on the Ninja power at any time, though not for long (Kim couldn't because she exhausted all the power to do so and transferred her powers from herself to Kat, making it like the dino coin)

You see I always wondered about this anyway.

Either time was reversed and then taken back, but during that time history had been changed, so that the Rangers never recieved their Ninja coins, Ninja zords and Shogun zords, but most of all it's possible that because time was screwed that they never technically recieved their spirits.

However you could say that the spirits were always with them but they were simply too young during MMAR to harness the full power. Since (apart from their age) their presence, memory, and possibly other factors (debatebly their ninja spirits) remained fairly intact during the events of MMAR as if they were seperate from the time disorder, that the spirits remained in them when they became adults again. Why didn't they use them afterwards? Well, the same reason Tor and Titanus was never used, Ninjor was never seen, or why everything relating to Zeo appears to have just been forgotten, wierd in show reasons that will never be explained.

Razor
03-05-2009, 08:26 PM
I know Ninjor created the power, but we have seen on the show in the episode 'Return Of An Old Friend' that it is possible for Zordon to temporaraly restore the powers that Ninjor created, as well as provide new zords for them (Thunderzords).

What I'm saying is, if Zordon's direct energy to Tommy's Dragon coin restored his powers, then a full wide radius blast of the same energy would do the same for Jason, Zack and Trini's coin. Again it will only be temporaraly, but maybe because of the increase in the power as well as the chaotic distrupution of the radius, the 'battery power' if you will, will be longer.

And I don't think Zordon created the Green Ranger power, many are under the idea that Ninjor created it, Rita stole it, and Zordon just accepted the holder into the team with the rest of the powers Ninjor created.

But I think I might be getting at what you're hinting. Because of the difference in creators, are you saying that produces a significance in difference on how the two creators' powers relate to the morphin grid, and if that affects two of the same Rangers at one time or not?



You see I always wondered about this anyway.

Either time was reversed and then taken back, but during that time history had been changed, so that the Rangers never recieved their Ninja coins, Ninja zords and Shogun zords, but most of all it's possible that because time was screwed that they never technically recieved their spirits.

However you could say that the spirits were always with them but they were simply too young during MMAR to harness the full power. Since (apart from their age) their presence, memory, and possibly other factors (debatebly their ninja spirits) remained fairly intact during the events of MMAR as if they were seperate from the time disorder, that the spirits remained in them when they became adults again. Why didn't they use them afterwards? Well, the same reason Tor and Titanus was never used, Ninjor was never seen, or why everything relating to Zeo appears to have just been forgotten, wierd in show reasons that will never be explained.

Okay see, the way is see it is this:
When time was restored, the ninja quest they had went on had simply still remained, so basically the teens did it twice and then by the time that time was restored they decided to go with the new Zeo powers rather than continue to use their old powers anymore.

Durakken
03-05-2009, 08:32 PM
I think that Jason, Trini, and Zack can tap into the morphing grid any time they please. There really is nothing to back this up other than Jason being able to use it later on.

I think the Dino, Thunder, and Turbo Zords on the other hand were powered by Zordon...
Shogun and Ninja Zords were powered by Ninjor
Zeo by Zeo crystal

Battle Borgs were powered by? we don't know...obviously not ninjor because he went away and stopped powering the zords apparently. No idea what's up with that but I would assume he assumed that with the zeo crystal, no reason for him to expend power for them any more.

The powers themselves are separate from the zords but tied in so that the rangers can push their powers to make the zords stronger...

The reason the Ninja powers are never used again is simple... The coins were destroyed and while they could still use the powers they could only do so a few times, much like the green ranger powers...they eventually would fail, but they can still be called...it's just not worth it unless it was an emergency which it wasn't since they had the zeo powers and crystal.

Razor
03-05-2009, 09:19 PM
What about their ninja suits? Could they stil summon those ninja suits without their ninja powers.

Ernde38
03-05-2009, 11:30 PM
Here's how I see it:

Mastodon Power Coin (original): In Zack's possession. 95% of it's power transferred to the duplicate that was bestowed upon Adam. When Zordon was destroyed, the Z-Wave restored it's power to full capacity. (Here's where Jiemusu and I differ, I believe that the power was restored for good.)

Pterodactyl Power Coin: In Kimberly's possession. Severely damaged when the Thunderzords were destroyed. Could be used, dangerously (like Adam in "Always a Chance"), but still connected to the Morphing Grid. Was NOT restored to full capacity with the Z-Wave, but was given a power boost by the Z-Wave. (Think of it like a bottle of pop with a small hole in it.) Could be restored to full power thanks to the Sentinel Knight.

Triceratops Power Coin: In Billy's possession. In the same state as the Pterodactyl Power Coin.

Saber-toothed Tiger Power Coin (original): In Trini's possession. In the same state as Zack's Mastodon Power Coin.

Tyrannosaurus Power Coin (original): In Jason's possession. In the same state as Zack's Mastodon Power Coin, and Trini's Saber-toothed Tiger Power Coin.

Dragon Power Coin: In Tommy's possession. It's state is similar to the damaged power coins, in the fact that it's like the bottle of pop reference I made. Powers were temporarily restored by the Z-Wave.

Tiger Power Coin: In Tommy's possession. In the same state as the Pterodactyl Power Coin, and the Triceratops Power Coin.

Mastodon Power Coin (duplicate): In Adam's possession. Was in the same state as the Pterodactyl Power Coin, Triceratops Power Coin, and the Tiger Power Coin until the Sentinel Knight restored it to full power permanently.

Saber-toothed Tiger Power Coin (duplicate): In Aisha's possession. In the same state as the Pterodactyl Power Coin, Triceratops Power Coin, and the Tiger Power Coin.

Tyrannosaurus Power Coin (duplicate): In Rocky's possession. In the same state as the Pterodactyl Power Coin, Triceratops Power Coin, Tiger Power Coin, and Aisha's Saber-toothed Tiger Power Coin.

Falcon Power Coin (Earth): Completely destroyed by Rita Repulsa and Lord Zedd. However, I feel that morphs could still be attained, as I think that the Ninja Rangers animal spirits are still with them, that they can call for Ninja Ranger Power, and that they can use the "coin" on the Ninja Ranger Suit chest to morph and allow access to the Ninjazords and Shogunzords. (Only Kimberly can use this method because Katherine didn't "bond" with the Crane.)

Frog Power Coin (Earth): Same state as the Earth Falcon Power Coin.

Crane Power Coin: Same state as the Earth Falcon Power Coin and the Earth Frog Power Coin.

Wolf Power Coin (Earth): Same state as the Earth Falcon Power Coin, Earth Frog Power Coin and the Crane Power Coin.

Bear Power Coin (Earth): Same state as the Earth Falcon Power Coin, Earth Frog Power Coin, Crane Power Coin, and Earth Wolf Power Coin.

Ape Power Coin (Earth): Same state as the Earth Falcon Power Coin, Earth Frog Power Coin, Crane Power Coin, Earth Wolf Power Coin, and Earth Bear Power Coin.

Falcon Power Coin (Aquitar): In Delphine's possession. Still fully powered and active.

Frog Power Coin (Aquitar): In Corcus' possession. Same state as the Aquitar Falcon Power Coin.

Wolf Power Coin (Aquitar): In Cestro's possession. Same state as the Aquitar Falcon Power Coin and Aquitar Frog Power Coin.

Bear Power Coin (Aquitar): In Tideus' possession. Same state as the Aquitar Falcon Power Coin, Aquitar Frog Power Coin, and the Aquitar Wolf Power Coin.

Ape Power Coin (Aquitar): In Aurico's possession. Same state as the Aquitar Falcon Power Coin, Aquitar Frog Power Coin, Aquitar Wolf Power Coin, and the Aquitar Bear Power Coin.

Circle/Pink Zeo Subcrystal: In Katherine's possession. Still fully powered and could be used at any moment.

Double Bars/Yellow Zeo Subcrystal: In Tanya's possession. In the same state as the Circle/Pink Zeo Subcrystal.

Triangle/Blue Zeo Subcrystal: In Rocky's possession. In the same state as the Circle/Pink Zeo Subcrystal and the Double Bars/Yellow Zeo Subcrystal.

Square/Green Zeo Subcrystal: In Adam's possession. In the same state as the Circle/Pink Zeo Subcrystal, the Double Bars/Yellow Zeo Subcrystal and the Triangle/Blue Zeo Subcrystal.

Star/Red Zeo Subcrystal: In Tommy's possession. In the same state as the Circle/Pink Zeo Subcrystal, the Double Bars/Yellow Zeo Subcrystal, the Triangle/Blue Zeo Subcrystal, and the Square/Green Zeo Subcrystal.

Golden Power Staff: In Trey's possession. Fully powered and still active.

Blue Turbo Key and Morpher (original): In Justin's possession. Fully powered and still active. I think he kept it after Storm Blaster gave it back to him just in-case he'd be called back to action again.

Green Turbo Key and Morpher (original): In Carlos' possession. Fully powered and still active. Could be called upon if needed.

Yellow Turbo Key and Morpher (original): In Ashley's possession. Same state as the Green Turbo Key and Morpher.

Pink Turbo Key and Morpher (original): In Cassie's possession. Same state as the Green Turbo Key and Morpher and the Yellow Turbo Key and Morpher.

Red Turbo Key and Morpher (original): In TJ's possession. Same state as the Green Turbo Key and Morpher, Yellow Turbo Key and Morpher and the Pink Turbo Key and Morpher.

Blue Turbo Key and Morpher (duplicate): In Robot Justin's possession. Same state as the original Turbo Keys and Morphers.

Green Turbo Key and Morpher (duplicate): In Robot Carlos' possession. Same state as the other Turbo Keys and Morphers.

Yellow Turbo Key and Morpher (duplicate): In Robot Ashley's possession. Same state as the other Turbo Keys and Morphers.

Pink Turbo Key and Morpher (duplicate): In Robot Cassie's possession. Same state as the other Turbo Keys and Morphers.

Red Turbo Key and Morpher (duplicate): In Robot TJ's possession. Same state as the other Turbo Keys and Morphers.

Power Ruby: In Phantom Rangers possession. Fully powered and active.

Red Astro Morpher: In Andros' possession. Fully powered.

Blue Astro Morpher: In TJ's possession. Fully powered.

Black Astro Morpher: In Carlos' possession. Fully powered.

Pink Astro Morpher: In Cassie's possession. Fully powered.

Yellow Astro Morpher: In Ashley's possession. Fully powered.

Digimorpher: In Zhane's possession. Fully powered.

Super Jeff
03-06-2009, 04:33 AM
From what I got their is only one morphing grid. Thrax destroyed then sentinal knight restored Adam's coin. So Adam can morph without using the grid at all.
But what about Jason, When his power was transfered to rocky, either he gave rocky his coin or just a duplicate. Since it was a transfer and Jason, Trini, and Zack teleported with their suits then I assume they always still hade their powers but not to an extent.
Either he kept the powers or rocky returned the coin but I will be safe and say Jason still had a coin of his own. However since Rocky's coin didn't exsist he was able to use his coin at full power when he fought the machine empire with the other red rangers.

coolbluetj
03-06-2009, 12:52 PM
From what I got their is only one morphing grid. Thrax destroyed then sentinal knight restored Adam's coin. So Adam can morph without using the grid at all.
But what about Jason, When his power was transfered to rocky, either he gave rocky his coin or just a duplicate. Since it was a transfer and Jason, Trini, and Zack teleported with their suits then I assume they always still hade their powers but not to an extent.
Either he kept the powers or rocky returned the coin but I will be safe and say Jason still had a coin of his own. However since Rocky's coin didn't exsist he was able to use his coin at full power when he fought the machine empire with the other red rangers.

There is the universal morphing grid but Thrax did not destroy it. Thrax severed the connection of the overdrive tracker to the grid, thus the Overdrive rangers could not become power rangers. Bridge, Tori, Xander, Adam, and Kira's powers were restored or given access to their powers via the universal morphing grid. That's what I got from it.

I looked at it like this. Here at my school computing services can from their location blocked your computer from accessing the internet no matter where you go within the room; however everyone else in the room can still use the internet if their computer has not been blocked.

In that case the OO team had their trackers blocked from the morphing grid while anyone non OO ranger could possible come back as ranger.

DarkProject
03-06-2009, 10:52 PM
I really wish that Rocky had been in Forever Red. They'd have had to give us an explanation for it, and our cool debate could be settled. However, it never will be. Your personal canon is the compass you follow unless a show says otherwise.

My take:

TPT created duplicate coins, the power supports only one color of "Dino Ranger" except for temporary arrangements, in which duplicate rangers can be powered, albeit at 50% power.

The Z-Wave destroyed evil, but it also created the Universal Morphing Grid.

Damaged morphers/coins are dangerous to use. They are weaker than normal, and can hurt/kill you.

The Universal Morphing Grid is now the way to access powers. Technology can tap into this grid, and transforms a person into a ranger. This creates a link between that person and said power, which fills them. If their morpher is lost/broken, or they expend too much energy, the link is severed to preserve the Grid itself.

SK can do anything he wants, the rules are thrown out the window.

Durakken
03-07-2009, 02:51 AM
DarkProject... no... The Morphing Grid is and always has been universal. It was not created by Zordon, nor does Zordon's death have any effect on it directly. The Morphing Grid was created by the Morphing Masters, long before Zordon was even born.

Think of having duplicate powers the same way a plug works. The morphing Grid was designed to have power drawn from it by one socket at a time. You put two sockets where there should only be one, it may work, but you have a high chance of causing an overload and/or damaging the wiring.

Like wise the reason why morphing is dangerous with a broken morpher/coin is the same reason you don't plug a cord in with frayed wiring...it can short and do damage to both the plug and the device.