What it takes to wear red

[Super Jeff]

Which rangers do you think Defined Red other then Jason? (Lets face it he is on everyone's top red ranger list)

I think Andros as he was a good leader and he made a hard descision to destroy Zordon's energy tube.

Wes while not the main leader he did lead the team to victory countless of times and he helped save history from being messed up.

Conner also. I didn't like him at first and thought he was a block head through the series. However as I rewatched the series he was a good ranger and he learned how to be responsible. He overcame his doubts and became stronger.

Cole while he wasn't the greatest ranger I admire his passion to help save the earth and his compassion he forgave Master Org for killing his parents.

Carter because he has dedication to fight evil. He also was a tactition time to time. He unlike the other red rangers in Forever red when the fought hand to hand with cogs he used a fire arm intead. This is because he never grew up as a fighter but a fire fighter instead. He also went to hell for finishing off Banshira.

[Green Elephant]

You have a thing for red "C's"?

[Tenaglia]

Cole? Come on man, he sucks...

Id pick Tommy as the leader of all seasons.
1ª He has been the leader for more seasons than anyone else
2ª In my opinion, he did it very well, better than all of the other Red Rangers(maybe Jason was as good as him)
3ª He was the Ranger that used more colors. It seems like "ohh, it doesnt matter". But look, if he wasnt a good Ranger, he wouldnt be throw out of the serie.

Well, I also like Jason, TJ and Andros. I think the old seasons were so much better =P Anyway, from the new ones, I like Jack and Sky (SPD, the only season Disney did well).

[Scales]

I think to be a red ranger it takes both Courage, fine leadership qualities and the ability to make hard choices. In Andros's case he had all three and showed it in, In Space

[Jiemusu]

To me, Red shows courage, bravery, strong body and strong mind, switched on, highly independant, people look to them for guidance, a leader of men. In Japanese culture, this colour represents leadership, command and power, while in Western cultures it's more linked to courage (obvious reference being Harry Potter's Griffindor house).

This is why Rangers such as Andros, Jason, Carter, Cole and Wes fit the Red Ranger description very well. They are independant, take charge, think on their feet, and protect what they must at any costs, even putting themselves in danger, they are courageous and strong enough to back it up.

This might be a reason why Casey, Aurico, Bridge and Rocky, although not bad Rangers, may not be considered good 'Red Rangers'.

Rangers with the Red characteristics don't always have to be Red Rangers. This includes Tommy and Delphine as White (although he did become Red later) and Jen as Pink.

Which rangers do you think Defined Red other then Jason? (Lets face it he is on everyone's top red ranger list)

Yeah Jason for a start did define Red, purely for the shallow reason that he was the first, setting the trend. That can't really be ignored. Zack started black, Trini started yellow etc.

But after we watch each season and scale each Red Ranger on how well they did conforming to the part, we end up discovering who was the best. For me, I found these characteristics to be pretty strong within Wes and Jason.

I mean both of these leaders constantly thought about their team members as a priority almost every time, constantly putting them forward, thinking about their benefits rather than their own. They were brave, ambitious, and caring

I don't consider Jason the best Red Ranger because Carter, Andros (and Wes) all performed more impressive feats. But Jason was a very good Red Ranger, and also one of the best leaders in PR along with Wes... and Leo too it must be said.

I think Andros as he was a good leader and he made a hard descision to destroy Zordon's energy tube.

I didn't count that as leading the team because Andros was acting independantly to his team members, Zhane was actually the leader during the finale, Andros became the lone wolf, they appeared to switch roles for the finale.

Andros is a good leader though, considering he was pretty much leading AND mentoring a bunch of people that had never been in space EVER.

And the Z Wave incident is hard to ignore, he saved the universe, destroying all evil currently active from the previous 5 seasons. That DOES make him one of the best Red Rangers, debates of murder aside. He still saved the universe, and Zordon told Andros to do it. He could have left it and watched the universe be destroyed, what would people make of him then?

Wes while not the main leader he did lead the team to victory countless of times and he helped save history from being messed up.

Agreed.

While Jen was the "defined" leader, Wes appeared to be the one most suited, although not officially leader by title.

Jen was a terrible leader in my opinion. That's why I think Lucas, Katie and Trip actually preferred Wes being in that role.

Conner also. I didn't like him at first and thought he was a block head through the series. However as I rewatched the series he was a good ranger and he learned how to be responsible. He overcame his doubts and became stronger.

I was never really fond of Dino Thunder at all, yet alone each of it's Rangers, so I never really liked Connor that much. It's also difficult to judge the Rangers because they seemed so... juvenile. I mean the original MMPR1 lineup were like 15 in the show and already more mature than the Dino Thunder lineup. It was difficult to judge Connor's character in terms of leadership.

I'm willing to label Tommy as the leader AND mentor in Dino Thunder, just like RJ seemed to be in Jungle Fury (even if he did say Casey was).

Cole while he wasn't the greatest ranger I admire his passion to help save the earth and his compassion he forgave Master Org for killing his parents.

As much as I dislike the guy, he single handedly saved the entire Earth ALONE by destroying Serpenterra ALONE, not treating it like an ego-boost, he was willing to travel into space for the first time to save the planet he loved.

Carter because he has dedication to fight evil. He also was a tactition time to time. He unlike the other red rangers in Forever red when the fought hand to hand with cogs he used a fire arm intead. This is because he never grew up as a fighter but a fire fighter instead. He also went to hell for finishing off Banshira.

Carter going to hell automatically makes him one of the greatest Rangers in the franchise.

You have a thing for red "C's"?

Lol most of the Red Rangers begin with C, it seems.

Cole? Come on man, he sucks...

Id pick Tommy as the leader of all seasons.
1ª He has been the leader for more seasons than anyone else
2ª In my opinion, he did it very well, better than all of the other Red Rangers(maybe Jason was as good as him)
3ª He was the Ranger that used more colors. It seems like "ohh, it doesnt matter". But look, if he wasnt a good Ranger, he wouldnt be throw out of the serie.

Again, Cole single handedly saved the ENTIRE GLOBE from the potential power of Serpenterra (huge-ass death zord) using like a bike (normal size) by flying directly into the heart of the "storm".

Tommy has never done anything as impressive as that, ever.

Even worse, Tommy was even leading the team when Cole did that, and Cole outclassed him there and then. If Tommy is so impressive... he should have done it himself, and well he didn't. Simple as that.

And Tommy isn't that good of a leader in an overview of everyone. He didn't care about each individual member of his team enough, he didn't build up their self esteem (leading to them being mosty underconfident to act independantly), he needed godmodded powers in order to be in that status, he didn't really deserve the position originally because he was forgetful/late/ignorning of his communicator, and it seemed he only liked to be around his "friends" when he has powers to use (adding to him not caring about his team).

Him having the most colours doesn't mean he was a better leader. Oh, and Tommy made a bunch of mistakes that people like to ignore. An example being, pretty much going off with Kat behind Kim's back, losing the Falconzord in the process, and pretty much leaving the entire team zordless for a significant portion of time (since the other Ninjazords became inoperable). Doesn't sound like something a good leader would do.

I think to be a red ranger it takes both Courage, fine leadership qualities and the ability to make hard choices. In Andros's case he had all three and showed it in, In Space

I can't dispute this, because well... it's true!

This adds to Jason and Wes being great leaders, Wes had to make difficult choices such as tampering with time. And let's not get started on ALL the difficult decisions Jason was faced with about his team and other matters every over day.

[Beta Ranger]

I'd agree about Wes, Carter and even Cole. I think Jack deserves a mention too though. He had to learn what a Red Ranger was and how it defined the person he was. He didn't understand how leadership worked to begin with, compare confronted to reflections part 2, he has learned how to be a leader.

[Durakken]

Jason = Charisma that a leader should have. His voice and look just works for the catch phrases. They really forced a leadership role on him it seems, not because of good leadership but because he gave off the leader vibe and yes there are a lot of people that do this...go to your local highschool and watch all the cliques. There are a lot of people with the leader vibe that are not leaders.

Tommy = To me he seems like he embodied more of the traits of a leader than any of the others. The downside is that he while he did have a lot of leader qualities he didn't really have the leader vibe nor was he always the best man for the job, but luckily he knew when to step aside which make him more of a perfect second than a Red Ranger, leader character.

Andros = more or less seemed like the rich kid from what I remember of the series. Let's face it the rangers were at his mercy for the entirety of the show. He could just chuck them out at the next stop... or into space whenever he wanted. The Space Ranger gear was his and he used it to accomplish his goal. He wasn't so much a leader or a hero as he was a I want this to happen, if you're with me good, if not you just might end up dead, character. He didn't really lead. He just went and did what he wanted and the other rangers who had a goal that would achieved by going with him followed.

Rocky = He's a non-character. In a way i'm glad that he came in when he did, because if he hadn't Jason would have been where he is today. They had one episode centered on him, sorta, in MMPR and so far i haven't come across any in Zeo (unless you count that acting one, which I don't) on him, but the one in MMPR would have been Jason and Jason would have been the guy who is just there through out season 3. Or he would have had a lot of Adams stuff as Adam was a combination of all the good things of Zack and Jason while Rocky seems to have been created from all the suck of those two characters.

TJ = Let's be honest here, and this gonna make me sound racist, but the only reason he even exist is because they wanted to say look we have a black Red Ranger! I don't remember anything else about him, but then I didn't watch much Turbo when I was younger after Tommy, Adam, Rocky, and Tanya left, leaving the most retarded one in the group, Justin?, to stay...

[Jiemusu]

Rocky = He's a non-character. In a way i'm glad that he came in when he did, because if he hadn't Jason would have been where he is today. They had one episode centered on him, sorta, in MMPR and so far i haven't come across any in Zeo (unless you count that acting one, which I don't) on him, but the one in MMPR would have been Jason and Jason would have been the guy who is just there through out season 3. Or he would have had a lot of Adams stuff as Adam was a combination of all the good things of Zack and Jason while Rocky seems to have been created from all the suck of those two characters.

I trust you can back this entire paragraph up, because it seems you're getting confused as to what Adam was really like in MMPR - Zeo.

[DigificWriter]

I don't agree with the idea that being Red Ranger automatically means you're going to be a good leader. My top 5 favorite Red Rangers are Andros, Wes, TJ, Leo, and Shane, and they all share one thing in common: they had to grow into a position of leadership over the course of their respective journeys.

To Durakken: It's pretty obvious that you didn't watch Turbo, because if you had, you would give TJ the credit he's due as both a Red Ranger and as a team leader. I can't think of a single Ranger team leader (regardless of Ranger color) who had a more difficult 'trial by fire' than he did. He had to lead his team through 3 major crises in relatively quick succession, all of which could be considered defeats, and yet it was during these crises that it really became clear just why he was a worthy replacement for Tommy. I can't think of a more stark example than the events of 'Chase into Space', when he had to make the decision to sacrifice both the Turbo and Rescue Megazords just to get rid of Goldgoyle, and then had to lead his battle-weary and battered team against an unending horde of Piranhatrons and witness the destruction of the Power Chamber without giving in to defeat or despair. The ironic thing, though, is that TJ really came into his own as a leader after he lost the position of Red Ranger, since he effectively spent a good portion of PRiS (at least the first quarter to half of the season) leading the team and/or fighting to get Andros to realize just how much he needed to let other people in, although you can definitely see how his experiences as Red Ranger honed his leadership skills.

[Durakken]

Jiemesu: Adam became Tommy's sparring partner, taken from Jason, and Adam also took on the more frog like personality, as the Ninja powers tell... it was taken from Zack. This is more or less how they were made because they weren't going to rewrite the season just for 3 new chars since they are up tight about money... So a lot of the personalities of the other 3 were mixed into the replacements hence Adam just got the better mix, unfortunately for Rocky.

DigificWriter: Yup i didn't. I still think that TJ was put as red ranger because of the racial thingm though he might have been a stronger character than i remember, but the show was aiming to have a span of ethnicity and I'm sure it was felt that to keep people from talking they should have a black leader...

[Legendary.]

You can't be color blind obviously.

[Beta Ranger]

DigificWriter: Yup i didn't. I still think that TJ was put as red ranger because of the racial thingm though he might have been a stronger character than i remember, but the show was aiming to have a span of ethnicity and I'm sure it was felt that to keep people from talking they should have a black leader...

Perhaps TJ was given the chance for racial reasons, but he was a good Red Ranger because of who he was. Its what a Ranger does that defines him and why TJ belongs in this list, no matter how he got the position.

[Legendary.]

Are we talking about Selwyn Ward or TJ? Cause if your saying Tommy picked TJ just so no one would say a black guy could be red ranger, you make no sense.

TJ was an awesome red ranger and his race has nothing to do with it.

The racial thing was fixed in MMPR s2 when they had an Asian Guy play the black ranger and black female to play the yellow ranger.

[Super Jeff]

Tommy was a good ranger but an ok Red. to me he never did anything real fascinating as a red ranger(From what i remember anyways) As White Ranger he beat Zedd in a fight whcih at the time was morphinaminal. even though he was losing his powers but never gave up when he was green. As black he was help training and leading the dino rangers into victory.

TJ was a good red ranger. He made the tough descisions to sacrifice the zords to help take down a tough foe. Also leading the team for a final battel against divatox even though they failed he was ready to go to space to help save zordon.

[Durakken]

Legendary... Who knows with Zordon >.> He's an oddball that one is. But I'm I can't comment on TJ in character because like I said I lost interest in the story of Turbo with the pointless change of powers, the kid becoming a ranger, and then kicking off the 4 characters I like and then zordon and Alpha 5 left... I mean it was literally a different show and all without any real point.

[Razor]

Legendary... Who knows with Zordon >.> He's an oddball that one is.

Yeah, but at least Zordon made sense when he spoke. What about Demetria? Now she was an oddball. All that Riddle me this, riddle me that crap was annoying.

[Jiemusu]

Can I just point out something that I think might be interesting. Related or not related, I found it interesting.

Tommy and TJ both lost 2 Megazords under their leadership. For Tommy, he allowed the Thunder Megazord and the White Tigerzord to be destroyed. For TJ, he allowed the Turbo Megazord and the Rescue Megazord to be destroyed.

This is a fair thing to say to be honest and it did happen.

It's up to you to decide which one was the nervous rookie who can be excused for such mistake and which one was the focused veteran that due to his experience that apparently got him the role he was in, he should have known better.

Jiemesu: Adam became Tommy's sparring partner, taken from Jason, and Adam also took on the more frog like personality, as the Ninja powers tell... it was taken from Zack. This is more or less how they were made because they weren't going to rewrite the season just for 3 new chars since they are up tight about money... So a lot of the personalities of the other 3 were mixed into the replacements hence Adam just got the better mix, unfortunately for Rocky.

That didn't actually back up your paragraph or elaborate on your point at all.

You were suggesting Adam's character took all the best bits from Zack and Jason's characters to form his combination. Where as Adam's personality (what was present) was nothing like Jason or Zacks.

Saying that Adam became a sparring partner isn't taking the best points from Jason and Zack's character. And him being more like a frog personality is pretty much doing the exact opposite of what Jason and Zack were like. It feels like you're reaching out here.

And from what I see, Rocky seemed to be the one to take Zack's upbeat charismatic vibe (well in MMPR at least), and Tommy was the one who borrowed Jason's leader qualities (although tampered with).

Adam had an entirely different personality to both Jason and Zack.

The only character I could see Adam borrowing from was probably Trini.

So I ask again, what is it about Jason and Zack's personality or good points that Adam "borrowed" exactly?

[Durakken]

Uhh no Jiemusu the whole frog thing was exactly Zacks character. That's where they were going with Zack the entire time despite us the viewer seeing him as cool it appears that in universe he was seen more as a loser than a cool guy. Likewise Jason's rivalry, with Jason, even though you say there was none so you don't accept this was transferred to Adam.

Rocky on the other hand...do you know what charisma means? No really I gotta ask because if you watch MMPR 2nd and 3rd season Rocky is invisible for the most part. He leaves no impression on the viewer whatsoever. In Zeo he became a bit better, but I'm 21 episodes in and he is neither SIC nor is he very memorable. I mean come on they replaced him with Justin...JUSTIN! and this was before the switching of all the rangers. Really that is some balls on the producers part to kick out a character with the charisma of Zack and Jason.

Also like I said Tommy did not destroy the Thunderzords. The circuits are fried on them which are easily replaced. They simply haven't and it wasn't Tommy's fault so much as it was Zordon's when you think about it.

Have you watched the series lately? From all the garbage you speak about the original Saban era series you have either forgotten or made up a lot of stuff that just isn't right.

[Jiemusu]

Uhh no Jiemusu the whole frog thing was exactly Zacks character. That's where they were going with Zack the entire time despite us the viewer seeing him as cool it appears that in universe he was seen more as a loser than a cool guy. Likewise Jason's rivalry, with Jason, even though you say there was none so you don't accept this was transferred to Adam.

Don't 'uhh' me. Explain exactly how Zack is a 'frog' character in detail?

And I don't know where you're going by saying Jason's rivalry but you're not making much sense. Jason didn't have a rivalry with either Zack, Rocky, Billy, or Adam. Just Tommy. And no one else had a rivalry with Tommy, just Jason. So I don't see where you're going with this.

You're reaching out now.

Rocky on the other hand...do you know what charisma means? No really I gotta ask because if you watch MMPR 2nd and 3rd season Rocky is invisible for the most part. He leaves no impression on the viewer whatsoever. In Zeo he became a bit better, but I'm 21 episodes in and he is neither SIC nor is he very memorable. I mean come on they replaced him with Justin...JUSTIN! and this was before the switching of all the rangers. Really that is some balls on the producers part to kick out a character with the charisma of Zack and Jason.

I'm pretty sure Rocky was more upbeat than Adam.

I gotta ask if you've watched MMPR 2nd and 3rd season as you're getting confused with Adam's character.

EDIT: Also you do realise that Steve Cardenas WANTED to leave on his own accord right? To run his dojo. That's why he was written out.

No, obviously you didn't know that, it seems.

Might want to brush up on facts next time. ;)

Also like I said Tommy did not destroy the Thunderzords. The circuits are fried on them which are easily replaced. They simply haven't and it wasn't Tommy's fault so much as it was Zordon's when you think about it.

Tommy allowed the Thunderzords to be destroyed.

TJ allowed the Turbozords to be destroyed.

It's the same thing.


Have you watched the series lately? From all the garbage you speak about the original Saban era series you have either forgotten or made up a lot of stuff that just isn't right.

Keep on the trolling, you'll lose your credibility. I'm just asking questions, trying to discuss things maturely, asking you to back up your claims. Don't get angry at me just because they lack validity and you simply can't support them without getting defensive.

If you were so sure of your claims, you'd be able to answer then maturey without aggession. So try that.

[Durakken]

Learn to read...really.

Tommy and Jason had a rivalry which you are now accepting where you said they didn't in another thread. After Jason left Tommy and Adam sparred, while not the same rivalry it still took the form of getting each other better much the same way Tommy and Jason did.

Upbeat and charismatic have nothing to do with each other. A brain dead blonde can be upbeat it doesn't mean they are charismatic. I think in SPD the character named bridge? is a perfect example. He's upbeat, he is not charismatic.


No it is not the same thing. If I come your house and fry the circuit board of your computer it is not the same thing as me taking a sledge hammer to it. You can be fixed, the other can't be.

This is not trolling this is trying to figure out how the hell you think you know what you are talking about when it is blatantly obvious you don't.

[Ranger Yellow]

To the both of you, you can have a healthy discussion without arguing over who's wrong or who should be right. If this discussion doesn't turn into a more mature discussion, then the thread will be closed.

[Jiemusu]

Learn to read...really.

And yet you're still trolling.

Very well, if that's how you want to play it.

Tommy and Jason had a rivalry which you are now accepting where you said they didn't in another thread. After Jason left Tommy and Adam sparred, while not the same rivalry it still took the form of getting each other better much the same way Tommy and Jason did.

When did I ever said Tommy and Jason didn't have a rivalship lol?

Anyone in their right mind already knows they do and have always thought so.

Nice attempt at trying to make up a false claim and paste it on me, but it's not working.

Again. Sparring does NOT mean Adam borrowed Jason's characteristics, it mean's nothing. Adam and Rocky sparred in MMPR2, so are they both the new Jason and Tommy? No, it's just sparring.

Upbeat and charismatic have nothing to do with each other. A brain dead blonde can be upbeat it doesn't mean they are charismatic. I think in SPD the character named bridge? is a perfect example. He's upbeat, he is not charismatic.

Actually, they are linked.

And what are you on? Almost any member here will tell you that Bridge was pretty much the biggest charistmatic aspect of SPD. Don't believe me, ask anyone.

No it is not the same thing. If I come your house and fry the circuit board of your computer it is not the same thing as me taking a sledge hammer to it. You can be fixed, the other can't be.

They were both leaders, and they lost two Megazords.

You can flip flop all you like, but in the end the outcome was the same. Tommy even had more in his favour, an Ultrazord and experience, and he still lost them. TJ didn't have an Ultrazord or the experience. Same outcome, whatever perspective you look at it.

This is not trolling this is trying to figure out how the hell you think you know what you are talking about when it is blatantly obvious you don't.

Telling me to learn to read and claiming everything I'm saying is garbage. This promotes a negative reaction and degrading a member for no reason unrelated to an argument's points, and that's trolling. And I've already reported you for it.

I know exactly what I'm saying.

And also, for someone who claims that I obviously don't know what I'm talking about and they do, you still haven't explained in detail why Zack's character reminded you of a frog.

Also for someone who obviously doesn't know what I'm talking about and they do, you didn't know anything about the backstory to why Rocky was written out early in the Turbo Movie. I had to tell you because you got it wrong.

And you try and degrade a member in public just because he challenged your views and you couldn't back then up well enough?

I find this all very ironic.

[Durakken]

you are now doing things you didn't do and not doing things you did? amazing magic.

anyways your one of the most annoy people i've ever come across in any sort of way and i've met a lot so I'm just going to ignore everything you say from now on since you don't actually say anything accurate.

[Jiemusu]

And also, for someone who claims that I obviously don't know what I'm talking about and they do, you still haven't explained in detail why Zack's character reminded you of a frog.

Also for someone who obviously doesn't know what I'm talking about and they do, you didn't know anything about the backstory to why Rocky was written out early in the Turbo Movie. I had to tell you because you got it wrong.

In your own time.

I mean I obviously don't know what I'm talking about, and you clearly act like you know much more. So answer these questions. I mean I already know the answer to the second one, and the first one is simply "it wasn't". But apparently you know best, so in your own time.

1) Can you explain in detail exactly why Zack personality was similar to that of a frog?

2) Why was Steve Cardenas's character Rocky DeSantos written out early in the Turbo Movie rather than later in Passing Of The Torch?

I'm only asking now because you attempted to degrade me in public, claiming your view is superior so, go ahead.

[Ranger Yellow]

After sending you both a PM, I did reopen the thread. But this is the last and final time I will warn you both.

[Super Jeff]

Hey Jiemusu can you diagnose almost every red ranger. I like to hear what you have to say about them. (I also know you like to make long posts lol)

[Jiemusu]

Hey Jiemusu can you diagnose almost every red ranger. I like to hear what you have to say about them. (I also know you like to make long posts lol)

Lol. Sounds cool, I'll give it a whirl.

[Super Jeff]

Lol. Sounds cool, I'll give it a whirl.

heh cool I always like to hear what you have to say.:)

[Jiemusu]

1) Overview
2) Positive
3) Negative

Jason

Ok, firstly, for the shallow reason that he was the first Red Ranger we saw, he set the trend of the Red colour. That cannot be avoided. But if we watch all the seasons then go back to MMPR1/2 we discover that Jason does appear to be one of the better of the bunch.

He was one of the most confident, most strong willed, most bold, most foward, most protecting, ironically due to his tough exterior it seems he was one of the most caring, he took it personally to heart when a team member was in troube even if that team member was capable of handling it themselves... Jason still took it too heart. It appears that he didn't treat his leadership as an ego-trip, he didn't hog the attention if it wasn't necessary (just look at his return in Zeo and Forever Red, he took a back seat at choice, he could have easily stepped up, but a new leader was born in his hands), he didn't need godmodded powers to start as a leader (and he had no known Red Ranger heritage when starting outa as leader, it was all on him), he didn't treat his friends like goons. It appears that Jason constantly put his team first, and un morphed he treated them like equals, hence why Zack, Kim, Billy, Trini, Tommy had more self-esteem than Rocky, Aisha, Adam. For me, Jason could be clased as leader-personified (a trait shared with Leo and Wes). Tommy fans don't like hearing this, but it's true. He had to make ALOT of difficult decisions constantly. Save your friend's powers or save his LIFE. Give over your power coins or risk destroying your PARENTS. Jason had to act on impulse alot, something that not many people could do (yes you, Jason bashers).

Bad points? Guess I'll have to conjure some up. Unrealistic character I guess, a stereotypical high school jock that's caring towards laid back asians and geeks? AND who is an A grade student? The character didn't work at the start, but luckely each Ranger drifted away from their stereotype. People claim Jason had more muscles in his arms than his head, well to be honest he was still top of the class and wasn't dim witted enough to forget things, he was very much on top of everything. And any 'hot-headed' or 'dumb' mistakes he made in his duties was the better of two evils, but I like how Jason-bashers never consider the alternative of what Jason could have done, bias and one-dimensional that criticism is, must be said. So I guess unrealistic character it is.

Rocky

Quite frankely I'm tired of people saying Rocky wasn't that much of a leader. As soon as Jason transferred his powers and got on that plane, Tommy was the official undesputed leader, White became the leader colour (which, if we go by the movie-verse and Wild West Rangers, Zordon probably originally wanted anyway) and Red was just a normal colour.

Well as much as people may cringe, he did improve on Jason's fault. Rocky became a more realistic character, through MMPR and then to Zeo as he developed. In MMPR he was the upbeat and energetic new guy that seeked enjoyment whenever he could,, in a way you could say he borrowed Zack's charismatic charm of the group, keeping the balance steady between work/play. And yes charisma does correlate with being upbeat (example, Bridge in SPD). We see him mature, however, throughout MMPR2, in MMPR3 he became a tad more serious, although still playful, and closer to others. By the time Zeo comes, Rocky had grown up in the natural way people grow up during those school years. He felt established within the group so it was no suprise when he felt replaced by a newcomer, the guy he originally replaced in the first place, this would make anyone feel like a third-wheel, so don't bash. All in all, he had an extremely realistic character. He was brought up in a poor broken home, had to help his mother raise his siblings, treated martial arts as a stress relief, rised up the ranks, all to eventually lead to him being a fifth-wheel later when 2 couples remained in his team and with the last team member having Emily. Rocky seemed to be treated like a nameless grunt, unfair considering he had shown one of the most boldest acts of bravery I have ever seen. He didn't have gododded Special Ranger powers, Battlizer or a whole Megazord to himself. He faced the main villain himself using just one part-of-a-multi-pack zord. I don't think many Rangers top that for bravery. Underappreciated character. And back onto the topic of him not being leader as Red Ranger, he still had a terrific role, to pilot the Thunder Megazord, and did act as Field Commander a lot. So really, ease up. And stop judging him on Jason's standards, until you start judging Adam on Zack's standards, Kat on Kim's standards, Jason on Trey's standards, Aisha on Trini's standards, or Karone on Kendrix's standards. You wouldn't do it with them, so don't do it with Rocky. And why not? Rocky represents you, the fanbase, the third wheel, the outcasted, the underappreciated, yet still qualified.

Negative points? Well he wasn't right for the part of leader purely because he didn't have others' well being or safety in his mind, he seems he wanted the role simply for the spotlight. I don't blame him, anyone else would have done the same, doesn't make him a bad person, and it certainly doesn't make him any worse than the leader he had at the time. But personally blue did suit him better, and I think he made a great Blue Ranger. But as a Red Ranger, many people do tend to rank him quite low. I guess he was underconfident and not that serious. But he had the ambition and potential.

Aurico

It's really, really, really hard to judge the Alien Rangers simply because there is little about their personalities to judge, but I'll give it a go.

While Delphine was the official leader, Aurico did a good job at stepping up as Field Commander, and it seems he was able to keep this role balance under control morphed and unmorphed.

The Alien Rangers lacked personality, simple as. I mean Delphine winked once, that was the ONLY personality I saw from any of the Aquatarian Rangers ever, that wasn't Aurico. Dude has no personality.

Tommy

Debating whether I should just the character overall, or just as a Red Ranger (Red Zeo - Red Turbo). So I decided to go for the neutral ground, and judge him as a Leader (MMPR White - Red Turbo).

As much as it pains me, have to start with the positive. He was confident, he was foward, he was brave, he was ambitious, he was strong willed and bold, and he was the one with the strongest powers who did appear regularly as the Leader (sans Turbo) so Leader seemed more fitting than Special Ranger. In his early career, he was very much like Jason, so it makes sense that he should replace him once Jason sets off to Switzerland. You could argue that Zordon originally wanted Tommy to be the leader (Wild West Rangers, movie-verse) as White Ranger. Hell, if you really want to stretch it, you could say that because Tommy arrived to Angel Grove late, and Rocky, Aisha and Adam were enrolled in Stone Canyon while Jason, Trini and Zack were with Kim and Billy in Angel Grove, that this screwed things up for Zordon. Maybe Tommy was originally set to be Red from the start had the lineup been more to Zordon's desire. I'm mearly speculating now because anything good I could have said about Tommy, I already have. Saying he has the most powers or zords seems a pretty shallow reason, so I refuse to say that. Extremely long-service, I guess that could be considered impressive.

Right then, the easy paragraph. Someone who is constantly ignoring of his communicator, late for missions, forgetful, dim-witted, confused, puts me-time before helping his friends, only hangs with his friends when he's getting Ranger Powers from it, and always getting captured and/or put under an evil spell did not deserve to be leader. Now that's done, let's point out that he's made what could be described as the most mistakes a leader has made, and you could argue that with more experience than all other leaders, Tommy should have known better but still failed. Let's have a look: Going with Kat behind Kim's back, losing the Falconzord in the process, leaving the Rangers zordless for a while, bad leadership. Flip flop all you want, he allowed the Thunder Megazord and White Tigerzord to be destroyed, if he's such a great leader, he should have devised a better plan, bring in Tor maybe. He treated the entire leadership has an ego-boost, pretty much always putting himself first, never others. Needing godmodded powers to lead is also shameful. Which member of Tommy's MMPR team had the least confidence? Aisha, Rocky and Adam, led by Tommy. Who had the most self esteem and confidence? Kim, Tommy and Billy, who were led by...Jason. You know it makes sense. There are dozens more but I need to move on, the paragraph is big enough already.

TJ

Seemely the shortest ever Red Ranger, half a season (you could argue that Aurico has been doing it for years).

I didn't have any beef with him. I mean unmorphed he practically forced his way through an early-Kalishplosions (wait wut) to save Tommy (and Kat too, unless Cassie saved her, I'll have to watch again). That's brave. Divatox was already mad as hell with the Turbo Rangers, and TJ had to lead a brand new team (brand new himself) half way through a battle where the villain was mad at them for something they hadn't even done, something the first half did. That must be tough. It's good to have an upbeat leader though who isn't too serious, for team moral.

However too much upbeatness and not enough seriousness at the time can lead to disaster. TJ lost two Megazords and allowed the Turbo Powers and the Command Centre to be destroyed. I'm not judging him too harshely on this because Tommy lost 2 Megazords and allowed the Dino powers to be destroyed in MMPR2, then allowed the Command Centre to be destroyed in MMPR3. So technically TJ didn't do anything that the person he replaced didn't do anyway. I will say this though, I felt Carlos was more of a natural leader than TJ, and I did prefer TJ as blue.

Andros

Considered by many to be the saviour of the universe.

Myself included, Andros had a choice. Obey Zordon's command for assisted suicide and save the entire radius from the hands of every evil force currently attacking (destroying all evil, and purifying corrupted souls) OR do nothing and watch the universe be destroyed. For this reason alone, Andros is considered by many, including me, to be one the best Red Rangers ever. Not leader, since he wasn't leading during this scenario. More? He single handedly led and MENTORED a new team of Rangers in space, who had never been in space before. This, makes him a good leader and mentor.

Bad points? I guess you can say he still killed, be it for a right or wrong reason, he's still a murderer. Considering Rangers destroy monsters daily, is it any different? Well most of those monsters are pure evil, I'll leave you to decide. Personally I don't think it's any different, Zordon and the monsters both have souls, and Zordon commanded Andros to do it. But others may disagree.

Leo

Leo the lion, brave. Coincidence? I think not.

Yes, he was brave, the final battle against Trakeena was incredible. No really, not many Red Rangers do that, a final battle hand-to-hand against the main villian, single battle. Jason never did this with Rita or Zedd, Aurico never did this with Hydro Hog, Tommy never did this with the Machine Empire, TJ never did this with Divatox, Andros never did this with Astronema (for a good reason, but still, although he did something more impressive). Leo ties with Jason and Wes for being what I consider the greatest leaders of PR. He doesn't take no for an answer.

If anyone thinks of anything bad about Leo, please... contribute, I'm all out. Leo is leader incarnate for me.

Carter

How many Rangers have entered the underworld? Well.

One, him. Carter Grayson. Amazing tactician, using firearms in conjuntion with martial arts. Carter learnt alot from the course of his story, especially at the hands of Captain Michell. Carter's story is moving and realistic. And while going to the netherregions is far from realistic, it showed Carter to be highly ambitious and brave.

I guess his character and personality is a little bland though, but that's probably in the root of the actor rather than the character.

Wes

Way better than Jen, I'll say that now.

Jen wasn't a very good leader at all, she was TOO hot-headed and allowed her personal emotions to conflict with duty way too much. I was glad when Wes took more of a stand. Wes was a great leader, he was caring, took his team members' well being and safety to heart, brave, ambitious and strong willed. Like Leo and Jason, Wes appears to borrow alot more of these leadership qualities than most other leaders. Oh and guess what, he saved time, that's right, time. Along with Carter and Andros, that puts him high in terms of impressive Red Ranger feats.

Again, like Leo, I'm gona need someone to point out some flaws. Apart from his poor taste in woman, I can't see them.

Eric

Yes, he is a Red Ranger.

Well, fantastic character, Eric solos. Special Ranger with a battlizer marks a first, he wasn't a complete conformist. He was able to act independantly, but still do the right thing, and he got judged simply on that and not anything that he didn't do. Eric was the best of both worlds, independant but loyal. It's also great to see how his personality changes over the course of the season, and his personal past adds to his development.

I guess not conforming to the Red Ranger role could be a criticism, but Eric was a Special Ranger too. It's a complicated issue. As a Special Ranger, which he was, he was fine, so no criticisms.

Cole

Like him or not, he did save Earth from Serpenterra.

I'll say that now. I hate the character, bad acting, silly looking, painful to watch, stupid, but he ventured into space for the first time in a click to put the Earth foward in safety. He single handedly saved Earth from what could be classed as the biggest zord ever, and he saved it using just a normal sized bike, by flying right into Serpenterra's mouth. Awful character, but incredibly brave, and a highly impressive feat.

Yeah, awful character, complete and utter dumbass, shouldn't have been leader, someone who doesn't know roughly how to ride a bike shouldn't BE leader. Just because he's Red? Awful, Taylor was a better leader, she knew what she was doing... even if she did go too far with the handbook. If Cole ever returns and goes on about how he is "at one with the lion", I'm going to letterbomb Kalish.

Shane

Fairly neutral this one.

He didn't do anything that I deem wrong, and served as an excellent Field Commander and Pilot.

It seemed at times he wasn't the Leader, it appeared Cam or Tori seemed to take that role more, and Shane was just in Red (although he did clash with Hunter, so it makes me wonder).

Sorry, I was hoping to say more about Shane to be honest.

Hunter

Wondering whether I should class Hunter as Red since he's Crimson (a tone of Red), by that logic I should judge all Pink Rangers too (shade of Red). But I decided, screw it, Crimson won't get their own judging catagory, I'm going for it.

The Thunder Rangers are epic, both of them. Fantastic when evil, badass when good.

Although the epic factor seems to be present when both of them are together, not just one.

Connor


Mixed opinions.

I mean firstly, realistic personality, aside from being the goof ball we all know, he faced genuine concerns about being a Ranger and managing time, when it affected his real life, but he overcame that. With being the Triassic Ranger with a battlizer, I could deem him one of the most powerful Rangers ever.

Although saying that, that makes him a total power junkie. Also I found his personality a little painful, he was way too juvenile.

Jack

SPD B Squad's first Red Ranger.

Well it's clear from a Marxist point of view that Jack was originally supposed to be B Squad's Red Ranger and that Doggie wanted that. Obviously Jack wasn't fit at the start, but in the end he was, it was as if the future was predicted. Anyway Jack learnt a valuable lesson from Doggie about being a Red Ranger, and because of that fall, he got up stronger than ever.

I really don't like Jack's character. Maybe because I'm a Marxist myself and I have a thing about people being in roles because they were fixed to from the start, who conform to improve so that they can fit that role later. I prefer people earning that role through their past actions, seems more fair that way. But that's a personal character trait of mine, and not representitive of a general view at all.

Sky

SPD B Squad's second Red Ranger.

I liked Sky, he had a terrific and realistic personality, the bitter Blue Ranger who was either downgraded from Red and/or felt they deserved Red. This hadn't been seen since Rocky, and appeared to be strangely absent with TJ, but it was back. His father was the Red Ranger, but he was Blue, and he had to answer to someone who abused his position. That must have been tough, I give him kudos for that. He learnt to accept his role eventually, and at that point he realized the true value and meaning of leadership, and became fit to take Jack's place.

You could argue that, like Taylor, he took the urge for Leadership too far. Placing the tip of the balance too much towards order. With this, it could be argued that the motivation for leadership was not the well being and safety of others, but for his own personal gain. This eventually changed though.

Bridge

SPD B Squad's third Red Ranger.

Bridge is a great character, but I'm judging him based on what he did as Red in Once a Ranger. Fantastic fighter, and remains very much the same upbeat and charismatic Bridge from SPD that we all appreciated.

As a Red Ranger though, he didn't adopt any of the original Red Ranger characteristics. Along with Aurico, Rocky, Shane, Casey and maybe TJ, you could say Bridge was one of the Rangers who least conformed to their colour role at the time. I preferred him as Green.

Charlie

SPD A Squad's Red Ranger.

Not much was seen of her enough to judge her in terms of a whole season, but having a female Red Ranger was a bold first move. I mean I never really saw the problem, other toku had female Reds: Jo from Big Bad Beetleborgs, Nagisa from Changeman. And we already had Delphine and Jen as female leaders, so I didn't see what the MASSIVE rave was, but others did... so.

She's a bitch, quite frankely. And she got put in her place.

Nick

Look's like Jen's hot headed nature affecting Ranger duties got in the way again.

When he appears we are led to believe he is the lone wolf new guy, who becomes leader, and eventually over the course of the season we discover his mysterious backstory is elaborated on, he is Bowen the son of Udonna and Lienbow. Upon knowing this, Nick's character deepened, and the "unloved hard done by" aggressive Nick slowly developed into the "sympathizing and loving" Nick. As much as people don't like Nick, his character became deep. Also with his infinite magic and battlizer, he could be deemed as one of the most powerful Rangers ever.

Now the bad points, terrible leader. No really, didn't deserve it, he was hot-headed at the time, it was a bad choice, and in the finale he was even the first one to quit. Craaazy.

(I'm not counting Lienbow because he's a Knight, not a Ranger)

Mack

He's called Mack and a handful of people were suprised at him being an android? Lol.

Discovering you're an android can't be easy, and after a downward spiral Mack learnt to accept this, that took guts. Eventually he was turned into a human, and all was well. He didn't resent his father for it in the end. Being an android, he had super strength, and became adapted to a Battlizer that most consideired impossible for a human to wield. This makes him one of the most powerful Rangers in PR.

Didn't really like any of OO, characters included. Anything I say will just be bias based off the season, so I'll leave it there.

Casey

Certainly a unique Red Ranger.

The character was realistic, a Red Ranger that wasn't portrayed as perfect, competant and brave. A rare example of a morpher for one Ranger not working at the same time it works for the other team mates. Yeah, Casey remains very much a relatable Red Ranger. These are hard to find, in fact Rocky was pretty much the only other one. Casey, like Rocky, represents you, the fanbase.

Although RJ claimed Casey was still the leader, I didn't get the leader vibe from him, I got it from RJ still, even after RJ said that line.

[Super Jeff]

Good Diagnosis Jiemusu

[Razor]

Bravo, Jiemusu. Well said on everyone.