View Full Version : [SS] Should older Sentai seasons be made into PR seasons?
GoldPhoenixRanger
02-28-2009, 10:34 PM
Hello there everyone!
This is a topic that was brought up in another thread, so I thought I'd make one to officially discuss the options. For those that are unaware, Power Rangers is adapted from a Japanese show called Super Sentai, which was on the air for 15 seasons prior to Zuyranger, which became Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. The question here is, could and should these earlier seasons be made into Power Rangers seasons? The issue is whether or not the footage is too cheesy and dated to be used, as well as whether or not the plots could be changed over or created. Personally, I think they could find a way, such as using these as Prequel seasons to MMPR or other teams. For reference, here are the seasons that have not been made into Power Rangers:
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1) JAPAN 1975-1977 === Himitsu Sentai Goranger (Secret Task Force Goranger)
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1975_goranger/images/goranger_title.jpg
2) JAPAN 1977 === JAKQ Blitzkrieg Force
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1977_jakq/images/jakq_title.jpg
3) JAPAN 1979-1980 === Battle Fever J
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1979_battle_fever_j/images/battlefeverj_title.jpg
4) JAPAN 1980-1981 === Denshi Sentai Denjiman
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1980_denjiman/images/denjiman_title.jpg
5) JAPAN 1981-1982 === Taiyou Sentai Sun Vulcan
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1981_sun_vulcan/images/sunvulcan_title.jpg
6) JAPAN 1982-1983 === Dai Sentai Goggle Five
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1982_goggle_five/images/goggle_title.jpg
7) JAPAN 1983-1984 === Kagaku Sentai Dynaman
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b2/Dynaman.jpg
8) JAPAN 1984-1985 === Choudensi Bioman [Super Electron Bioman]
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1984_bioman/images/bioman_title.jpg
9) JAPAN 1985-1986 === Dengeki Sentai Changeman [Blitzkrieg Task Force Changeman]
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1985_changeman/images/changeman_title.jpg
10) JAPAN 1986-1987 === Chousinsei Flashman [Supernova Flashman]
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1986_flashman/images/flashman_title.jpg
Continued in Next Post........
GoldPhoenixRanger
02-28-2009, 10:35 PM
Sorry for the double post, but there’s a limit of 10 images per post.
11) JAPAN 1987-1988 === Hikari Sentai Maskman [Light Task Force Maskman]
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1987_maskman/images/maskman_title.jpg
12) JAPAN 1988-1989 === Choujyu Sentai Liveman [Super Beast Task Force Liveman]
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1988_liveman/images/liveman_title.jpg
13) JAPAN 1989-1990 === Kosoku Sentai Turboranger [High Speed Task Force Turbo Ranger]
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1989_turboranger/images/turboranger_title.jpg
14) JAPAN 1990-1991 === Chikyu Sentai Fiveman [Earth Task Force Fiveman]
http://www.supersentai.com/database/1990_fiveman/images/fiveman_title.jpg
15) JAPAN 1991-1992 === Chojin Sentai Jetman (Birdman Task Force Jetman)
http://www.bloggang.com/data/icebridy/picture/1157118322.jpg
Which, if any of these, do you think could and should be made into a successful Power Rangers season? Any ideas for a plot? Further information on all of these seasons, as well as allies, mentors, villains, and zords, can be found on www.SuperSentai.com.
-GPR
Question
02-28-2009, 10:37 PM
I'm too lazy to look any of them up, but the Maskman uniforms are my very favorites.
ForeverBlue
02-28-2009, 11:09 PM
GPR, I don't think it was really necessary to post all those pics as most of us can just go to supersentai.com to look :p
Anyways, since Disney has taken over PR, there is no chance of the pre-zyuranger series to be adapted into PR seasons. Go-onger to Dynaman is way too old though and they are way out of date. Bioman to Jetman would be the only ones that would have been adapted but we started with Zyuranger. Jetman was originally gonig to be the first one to be started by Saban but that script to be dropped due to the violence and started with Zyuranger instead.
Scales
02-28-2009, 11:35 PM
What a shame. Some of these seasons look like they would have some potential. Especialy the more recent picture. I could defiantly imagine it as another season
Green Elephant
03-01-2009, 01:02 AM
I created five teams based on Maskman through Jetman. They are PR teams created by Jason, Trini and Zack in other countries.
Jiemusu
03-01-2009, 01:25 AM
I've always thought that Liveman and JAKQ would have been great to adapt. I mean the story for Liveman was one of Sentai's better plots, plus the line up is like that to Go-onger (i.e. RPM)... but instead based on animals rather than vehicles. Never really like vehicle toku, but with Liveman adapted we would have had red, blue and yellow start, with green and black coming in "Thunder Ranger" style next, with the animal theme.
I also really enjoyed JAKQ and felt that it's an original sentai that had it's own system and way of things, after Battle Fever J things just seemed to get generic in terms of Ranger colours. JAKQ had some pretty good themes, the idea of them being based on cards rather than simply just animals, colours or vehicles was a totally original idea that was unique only to that Sentai only. PR needed to adapt that, but never did.
But, of course, due to dated footage and... Disney, it will never happen.
Maybe this is a pro for having PR animated. =D Use all the past unadapted sentais.
Scales
03-01-2009, 01:45 AM
But, of course, due to dated footage and... Disney, it will never happen.
Can't you digitally remaster all the outdated footage? Yeah Disney is too big a monopoly to do anything really. So I see your logic there
Jiemusu
03-01-2009, 01:51 AM
Can't you digitally remaster all the outdated footage? Yeah Disney is too big a monopoly to do anything really. So I see your logic there
Well in theory you could digitally remaster old footage. But I feel that most of the early Sentai footage is simply too outdated to digitally remaster.
A linked analogy would be trying to get a purely mono field track on a analogue cassete (distorted and hissed), and trying to digitally remaster it as a stereo field track for a CD with all hiss and distortion removed.
Even if you manage to cut off frequencies to reduce the hiss and distortion, you can't hack off too much without loosing alot of the original content, and there's no way to heal the mono/stereo field situation.
Too dated to digitally remaster, at least that's my opinion.
Super Jeff
03-01-2009, 02:36 AM
Besides the scenes would look older so it would look harder for it to be modern.
DaiRed
03-01-2009, 03:08 AM
I wouldn't want to see the older series made today. It'd be too outdated. Just keep moving forward.
Jetman was originally gonig to be the first one to be started by Saban but that script to be dropped due to the violence and started with Zyuranger instead.
Actually, I heard it was because of poor group testing. Besides, dinosaurs are more popular with kids than birds. If they did start with Jetman, PR probably wouldn't be as big as when they started with Zyu.
mbozzo
03-01-2009, 03:30 AM
Instead of turning the older Sentai seasons into Power Rangers seasons, why not just dubbed the older Sentai seasons? I think the viewers might enjoy a very good dubbed Sentai show.
Super Jeff
03-01-2009, 03:48 AM
I think Dai Ranger would be interesting as that was the only sentai series that was skipped durring the original PR seasons.
DaiRed
03-01-2009, 04:42 AM
I think Dai Ranger would be interesting as that was the only sentai series that was skipped durring the original PR seasons.
Well technically the suits just weren't used, but yeah. They should just make a season of that but have no connection to the regular PR series.
Super Jeff
03-01-2009, 04:54 AM
Well technically the suits just weren't used, but yeah. They should just make a season of that but have no connection to the regular PR series.
Well I know they used the zords and The White Ranger but I think it would have been interesting.
I'm too lazy to look any of them up, but the Maskman uniforms are my very favorites.
I've always been most fond of the Maskman suits, though I don't like those earring type things that dangle from the sides of the female Rangers' helmets; very distracting.
Personally I think that all footage from Denjiman forward has potentional. Some of you think that the footage is too old to be digitally remastered, but I don't think so. The audio wouldn't matter because most if not all of the original Japanese audio is dropped and replaced with American audio when the original source material is adapted for American audiences. If unused two-dimensional footage of Marlon Brando from the filming of the first two Superman films could be used to do something as amazing as creating a three dimensional image of Jor-El for Superman Returns, it should be possible for the old Super Sentai footage to be digitally remastered. The only limiting factor is the amount of money that Disney would be willing to spend to do that, which is obviously none because Disney is cheap and Power Rangers has such a small following these days.
Green Mystic Ranger
03-01-2009, 01:25 PM
Liveman and Jetman would be awesome to see in PR. I love the suits and the theme aswell. Would be quite interesting to see how Jetman would be adapted to :D.
Question
03-01-2009, 01:28 PM
I've always been most fond of the Maskman suits, though I don't like those earring type things that dangle from the sides of the female Rangers' helmets; very distracting.
I've actually never once noticed them in all the years I've liked the Maskman suits. Probably because I've never seen them in action.
Nyteshade Ranger
03-01-2009, 02:09 PM
Alot of the suits look really cool. Maybe if disney wants to do Pr animated they could animate the older sentai seasons and still keep Live Action Pr moving forward.
Ths could benefit alot because it would give PR the ability to develop a much more diverse following imho.
3eazy
03-01-2009, 10:14 PM
Im Actually Working On A Fan-Fiction & Im Including The Older Setai's & The Dairanger... It Would Be Nice To See A Cartoon Version Of The Older Sentai's
Scales
03-01-2009, 11:08 PM
Alot of the suits look really cool. Maybe if disney wants to do Pr animated they could animate the older sentai seasons and still keep Live Action Pr moving forward.
Ths could benefit alot because it would give PR the ability to develop a much more diverse following imho.
Disney's contract with Toei ends with RPM. They can renew it if they want to. But otherwise Toei would need to find another producing if they want to do it animated or live action
GoldPhoenixRanger
03-02-2009, 02:05 AM
That's the thing, Toei really can't because Disney owns all the rights to the Power Rangers name and franchise. Therefore, if someone else takes Toei's footage and tried to produce PR, Disney can sue them for infringment. The only way we will get anything is if Disney decides to make it, and only a live action season if they renew the contract with Toei.
I like the earlier Sentai suits and I think anything after the first three seasons could be adapted somehow and would be entertaining. Just my two cents.
-GPR
furyfatal10
03-02-2009, 02:39 AM
c'mon! gimme a break.
I bet no one wanna see that guffy eposides!
Those series may have been appealing at that time but today, I really don't think children would like them. Even Power Rangers are approaching the destination today...
I've actually never once noticed them in all the years I've liked the Maskman suits. Probably because I've never seen them in action.
I never noticed them either until I saw some Maskman clips on YouTube. Watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHyUREbe6Rw&feature=related) and you'll briefly see the earrings in the shots of the Galaxy Robo cockpit.
Fire Wolf Ranger
03-02-2009, 07:52 AM
That's the thing, Toei really can't because Disney owns all the rights to the Power Rangers name and franchise. Therefore, if someone else takes Toei's footage and tried to produce PR, Disney can sue them for infringment. The only way we will get anything is if Disney decides to make it, and only a live action season if they renew the contract with Toei.
I like the earlier Sentai suits and I think anything after the first three seasons could be adapted somehow and would be entertaining. Just my two cents.
-GPR
The thing is,as long as its not called Power Rangers,any production company can do it.Look at Kamen Rider Dragon Knight.Its not Masked Rider which is a Saban production that I belive is now also owned by Disney.Since its now done by the Adness company,its a differnet show.The same can be done of Sentai.This is just my opinion though.
SilverTigerRanger
03-02-2009, 09:52 AM
Liveman and Jetman would be awesome to see in PR. I love the suits and the theme aswell. Would be quite interesting to see how Jetman would be adapted to :D.
I totally agree as well. Especially since both females were white and blue in Jetman.
Beta Ranger
03-02-2009, 10:47 AM
Liveman and Jetman would be awesome to see in PR. I love the suits and the theme aswell. Would be quite interesting to see how Jetman would be adapted to :D.
I must admit I've always thought that too. Any of the older series would make good PR seasons as long as they had inteligent writing behind them, but what an interesting idea about another company producing non-PR Sentai, oh to be involved in that.
Chris3123
03-02-2009, 10:27 PM
I always laugh when I try to imagine JAKQ translated into Power Rangers. Those rangers just look too ridiculous.
PRangerX
03-03-2009, 10:45 PM
Its not going to happen. Disney only aquired the rights to the early Sentai incarnations to prevent other companies from using them. I don't see any reason for them to adapt older Sentai's when they have new ones to adapt every year. Also I'd have to imagine most of the costumes for the early Sentai's are gone. So I don't see it as being something they can really adapt anyway.
Jiemusu
03-03-2009, 10:58 PM
I always laugh when I try to imagine JAKQ translated into Power Rangers. Those rangers just look too ridiculous.
Only because it was the second Sentai ever. This was in 1977. Of course it's going to look ridiculous compared to any Power Ranger season if it's just dubbed.
I'm willing to bet that if the costumes are used and refilmed to make a new season (it'll never happen, but for discussion purposes) it would be interesting. Considering it appears to be the most unique Sentai/Power Rangers out there. It's not based on numbers, animals or vehicles... but playing cards.
Toei must have had a sudden rush of creativity back in 1977, because other Sentais just copied the same themes over, and PR copied that from Zyuranger onwards.
Ok it's cheesy, but it has enormous potential.
Here's to live action remaking it.
Chris3123
03-03-2009, 11:11 PM
Only because it was the second Sentai ever. This was in 1977. Of course it's going to look ridiculous compared to any Power Ranger season if it's just dubbed.
Actually, I wasn't even thinking of the show itself when I posted that. Just the costumes.
I'm willing to bet that if the costumes are used and refilmed to make a new season (it'll never happen, but for discussion purposes) it would be interesting. Considering it appears to be the most unique Sentai/Power Rangers out there. It's not based on numbers, animals or vehicles... but playing cards.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here. I think it would be stupid.
Jiemusu
03-03-2009, 11:34 PM
So it's just the costumes you don't like? Aye that's fair enough then.
Still, it would be interesting if they used a unique theme like JAKQ did, even if it's not JAKQ, but either something else or something new. Because they do seem to just repeat either vehicles, animals or numbers alot.
Green Elephant
03-04-2009, 01:05 AM
A playing card theme worked pretty well for Kamen Rider Blade. (which really would be a good name for the adaptation of Kiva IMO).
Hollaman
03-04-2009, 01:22 AM
I say no because the older sentai is just to dated. The props for weapons and ect. and the zords/megazords just look plain awful nowadays. The only sentai from the past, if remastered, that I see possibly working are Jetman and Maskman.
Green Elephant
03-04-2009, 01:29 AM
I say anything from Maskman through Jetman could work.
Ernde38
03-05-2009, 06:14 PM
Based on the suits only, the following suits are decent looking compared to the other ones I'm not listing:
Denjiman
Vulcan
Five
Dynaman
Bioman
Changeman
Flashman
Maskman
Liveman
Turboranger
Fiveman
Jetman
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