[PR] End of Live Action Power Rangers?! [Archive]

Jiemusu

02-28-2009, 02:35 PM

As long as Sentai continues, Disney will copy.

When Sentai stops, that is the time to freak out.

Well power rangers fans, According to some reliable PR sorces, RPM will indeed be the last live action Series of PR :(
Read more here at Linear Ranger's website:

http://linearranger.com/RPMNews/NewsFuture.htm

Lol reliable PR sources? Says who? The source itself?

Yeah, you shouldn't be that naive. The internet DOES lie.

They better make RPM the best season EVER!!

Well humans need hope but... good luck with that.

Heard the same thing about Jungle Fury last year. Apparently it's a recurring rumor. I wouldn't put too much stock in it.

pfft, the same was said with Operation Overdrive and Jungle Fury. I'm not believin this one second. Hell, I bet we'll be hearing rumors for season 18 in a few months.

What these two said. People thought Operation Overdrive was the last ever live-action season, and Jungle Fury was actually rumoured worldwide to officially BE the end of live-action PR, and now we have RPM.

Seriously PR fans, rumours, after all this time are people falling for this and STILL believing them at first glance? What happened to a little thing called information rehearsal?

Don't trust PR rumours.

Power Rangers will die if animated. Period.

Agreed. I can picture the horribly exaggerated muscles and packs right now, on the females too.

If these sources are so reliable, how come no one says who they are? Not even a "Disney executive who wishes to remain anonymous" or anything.

I'll believe it when I see a press release from Disney. Not a second sooner.

What Question said.

rmssw

02-28-2009, 02:42 PM

Question

02-28-2009, 02:44 PM

So you're naming the source of the last rumor as a source for this one, even though the last one was proven false? Ballsy, man.

Link me to this source.

ThatGuy83

02-28-2009, 03:32 PM

http://www.rangercast.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7959&page=9

Question

02-28-2009, 03:36 PM

Ctrl-F doesn't reveal either "animated" or "cartoon" in that linked page, and I'm not reading the whole thread to find the reference. What's the post number?

Green Mystic Ranger

02-28-2009, 03:43 PM

If Power Ranger stops, then I doubt the animated version would do it any justice and i'm sure it will lose a heck alot of fans. But as long as Sentai keep making more series, like others have said, Disney will continue to copy because they can't afford to drop it. We've heard rumours like this for the past three years that the series in that year was the last one. The internet is full of lies and people who make things up just to get other people worked up over it. Until I see hard proof by Disney themselves that they are cutting Power Ranger live, I will believe nothing else.

fℓєѕн ∂´ ℓσρєz

02-28-2009, 03:44 PM

If these sources are so reliable, how come no one says who they are? Not even a "Disney executive who wishes to remain anonymous" or anything.

I'll believe it when I see a press release from Disney. Not a second sooner.

Me 2 men i was worried sick last year for the rumors.power rangers is a part of my life i dont wanna loose.

Lets hope linear ranger info isnt reliable

Razor

02-28-2009, 03:50 PM

Question

02-28-2009, 03:54 PM

I must be the only one in the world who *wants* Power Rangers to go animated.

Everyone says the show'd go under, but no one says why. What, better costumes that don't rely on a budget or Sentai, US original plots and designs, decent special effects... these are all bad things now?

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 04:12 PM

Question

02-28-2009, 04:16 PM

Super Jeff

02-28-2009, 04:25 PM

To me if they did an animated series after Space or heck even Wild Force then I would probably be ok with it. However After 17 seasons I just can't picture any of the characters animated. TO me Power Rangers will always be live action, I mean sure I admit I would give the cartoon a try but it won't give you the same feel. Like when the rangers morph and then do a epic roll call. You can't animated that....you can at least dub it but not animated.

If this is the last season then I will cherish it and make sure I don't miss an episode.

Jiemusu

02-28-2009, 05:24 PM

Sources have been named...most notably, the executive producer of most of RPM who was told by Disney that Jungle Fury was supposed to be the last season but because of contractual reasons, RPM would be.

Nice fanfiction, when are you posting the first draft?

In case you didn't notice. Operation Overdrive at the time was supposed to be the last season, but because of contractual reasons, Jungle Fury became rumoured to be the last. Now it's repeating itself.

RPM supposed to be the last? Suuuuure. Then because of contractual reasons, the NEXT PR season will be the last.

Repeat process.

You're trusting Disney to make a decision? For shame.

So you're naming the source of the last rumor as a source for this one, even though the last one was proven false? Ballsy, man.

Link me to this source.

My guess is that rmssw doesn't know what he's talking about.

I also call it trolling.

If Power Ranger stops, then I doubt the animated version would do it any justice and i'm sure it will lose a heck alot of fans. But as long as Sentai keep making more series, like others have said, Disney will continue to copy because they can't afford to drop it. We've heard rumours like this for the past three years that the series in that year was the last one. The internet is full of lies and people who make things up just to get other people worked up over it. Until I see hard proof by Disney themselves that they are cutting Power Ranger live, I will believe nothing else.

Exactly. That's pretty much what I said. As long as Sentai goes, Disney will copy it. When Sentai stops, that's when Disney will actually go into animated production, rather than just talking about a what if of them potentially doing it.

It AMAZES me how PR fans STILL believe all of these rumours when they've ended up being false every time. As harsh as this is going to sound, don't people "learn" anymore?

I'm with Den-O on this one. I had no idea there had been rumors about Operation Overdrive and Jungle Fury. I have to have positive proof before I start getting ****** off about something that, at this point, is unproven to be true.

Exactly.

I must be the only one in the world who *wants* Power Rangers to go animated.

Everyone says the show'd go under, but no one says why. What, better costumes that don't rely on a budget or Sentai, US original plots and designs, decent special effects... these are all bad things now?

My major beef with animated PR will be the overexaggerated toning of the bodies. If they keep it under control though, I'll give it a chance.

But chances are PR will die when it goes animated.

Power Rangers is ending. Deal with. Eddie Guzelian himself confirmed this on Rangercast. Those of you that have known me for a while know that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to rumors. The same sources I have stood by for a long time and have never been wrong are saying it's over. If you don't believe them, that's your problem. You're in denial.

A bit full of yourself aren't you?

To me if they did an animated series after Space or heck even Wild Force then I would probably be ok with it. However After 17 seasons I just can't picture any of the characters animated. TO me Power Rangers will always be live action, I mean sure I admit I would give the cartoon a try but it won't give you the same feel. Like when the rangers morph and then do a epic roll call. You can't animated that....you can at least dub it but not animated.

If this is the last season then I will cherish it and make sure I don't miss an episode.

I know what you mean about the epic role calls.

Animated PR most likely won't capture that the same as live-action does.

Razor

02-28-2009, 05:34 PM

Sure, with an animated series, you could have all sorts of special effects, but they're not really SFX, they're just drawings. With an animated series, everything would be over exaggerated and over the top, thereby making PR look like crap. Screw that!

Super Jeff

02-28-2009, 05:47 PM

Honestly this is the first time I have been hearing about a final season. I never heard any of this during Jungle Fury and Overdrive.

Razor

02-28-2009, 05:50 PM

Honestly this is the first time I have been hearing about a final season. I never heard any of this during Jungle Fury and Overdrive.

Don't feel bad, Jeff. I had never heard of such a thing either. But I guess, being in a place like RT puts you in the loop.

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 05:58 PM

In denial? Sure, whatever you want to think.

It's not as if this exact rumor hasn't been proven false time and time again, even when backed by people who worked on the show. It's not pattern recognition or an unwillingness to believe anything that hasn't been confirmed by Disney itself, it's just denial.

A bit full of yourself aren't you?

Wow, RangerTalk has changed. The people that posted here that knew what they were talking about it less and less. The first time we ACTUALLY had a rumor that Power Rangers was ending was for Jungle Fury. Jungle Fury WAS supposed to be the last season. Everyone keeps saying that we've seen this rumor every year, but no we haven't. What we have seen is some random person saying "why don't we have info yet? ZOMG Power Rangers is ending!" which does NOT equal a rumor.

Just because someone thinks it doesn't make it a rumor. The first, REAL rumor we had was that Jungle Fury was the last season and Power Rangers was ending. That came from Poweranimals and it wasn't ever proven false. That was real. Jungle Fury was going to be the last season, but things changed. At the time it was stated, it was true. That can't be denied.

Now this rumor is here and this time it is true as well. To those that don't think it is, then there's simply two reasons: you either don't know what the definition of a reliable source is or you're in denial. People, Eddie Guzelian himself confirmed that Jungle Fury was going to be the last season and that Disney was treating this season as if it was not even meant to happen. Power Rangers is ending. You want proof? I've given countless bits of evidence over the years and even though it's seriously annoying that everyone has just thrown that out the window, I'll post even more evidence.

Here's a quote from Eddie about the fate of Power Rangers....

The very first meeting I ever had with Disney on the show, they told me flat out that Jungle Fury was supposed to have been the final season of Power Rangers. I don't remember the circumstances exactly, but something involving foreign financing or issues with the toy company had already begun moving forward and put them in a position of being obligated to to go ahead with the RPM season. I guess people familiar with following the show have become used to hearing this every year, but I took it to be true.

Because it was the final season of the show, the executives at Disney pushed me to shoot for something that was ambitious. They told me to "swing for the fences" and often reminded me that, because the show was essentially already cancelled, I had "nothing to lose."

And Jiemusu, you don't know a thing about me so just shut up. When you come on these forums and stand behind the truth for years only to have people still not believe you, then you'll understand why I'm a little ticked. People are still doubting the sources that have always been right, and that completely boggles my mind.

Jiemusu

02-28-2009, 05:58 PM

And what makes you think I've never heard about you? I've been on Rangertalk for a long time you know. I've had 4 different names. I've sat through and watched 1 board crash and 2 reboots. So don't stand their and act like I haven't been here for years.

I know about you. You're the guy who gave information from inside sources a while back, but you've let it gone to your head like... loads now. Acting like you're somewhat superior and always knowing PR's future.

If you tell me to shut up again, you're being reported.

Telling people to shut up isn't being a productive member, and it's not going to get people to treat what you say seriously if you lash out and act irrationally to them. How you think it will is absurd, THAT boggles MY mind.

Honestly this is the first time I have been hearing about a final season. I never heard any of this during Jungle Fury and Overdrive.

Don't feel bad, Jeff. I had never heard of such a thing either. But I guess, being in a place like RT puts you in the loop.

Yeah it was before you guys joined. In fact I think it was on the previous board, animated PR rumours went crazy... and I mean CRAZY, before. It was during Operation Overdrive, with rumours of Jungle Fury being the last season.

Super Jeff

02-28-2009, 06:02 PM

Jerry Jerry Jerry

lol couldn't help my self

Razor

02-28-2009, 06:03 PM

Well I'm glad those were just rumors. That would've sucked if JF had been animated.

Razor

02-28-2009, 06:04 PM

Jerry Jerry Jerry

lol couldn't help my self

lmao @ Jeff. :D

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 06:05 PM

And what makes you think I've never heard about you?

I know about you. You're the guy who gave information from inside sources a while back, but you've let it gone to your head like... loads now. Acting like you're somewhat superior for knowing PR's future.

If you tell me to shut up again, you're being reported.
First off, I did not give information from inside sources. I was posting information from others that had inside information. I was simply the messenger who was able to use logic. Let it get to my head? Oh, please. No, what I've been trying to do is get everyone to stop talking about how "RPM can't end, we have this rumor every year" and instead talk about the season itself. You know, actual productive conversation. Discussing why people think RPM isn't the last season is completely pointless because it is the last season.

And I never once said I'm superior. The only thing I claim is that I can use logic to determine who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't. Logic indicates that RPM is the last season. Simple as that. You can infer what you want, but that is all I am saying. I don't know any more about Power Rangers' future than you do, but I do know how to use logic.

And I should report you for saying I'm full of it. Get a handle on yourself.

I also like how you conveniently didn't respond to any of the proof I showed in the post. Way to go.

EDIT: Ack, stealth edit.

And what makes you think I've never heard about you? I've been on Rangertalk for a long time you know. I've had 4 different names. I've sat through and watched 1 board crash and 2 reboots. So don't stand their and act like I haven't been here for years.

Telling people to shut up isn't being a productive member, and it's not going to get people to treat what you say seriously if you lash out and act irrationally to them. How you think it will is absurd, THAT boggles MY mind.
If you have been here for years, then I'm totally confused as to why you refuse to believe the reliable sources.

And saying someone is full of it isn't being a productive member either. You're calling me irrational when I've always posted proof of what I say. The only proof that you have given is that you claim they are false without any valid reason for doing so.

Jiemusu

02-28-2009, 06:08 PM

First off, I did not give information from inside sources. I was posting information from others that had inside information. I was simply the messenger who was able to use logic. Let it get to my head? Oh, please. No, what I've been trying to do is get everyone to stop talking about how "RPM can't end, we have this rumor every year" and instead talk about the season itself. You know, actual productive conversation. Discussing why people think RPM isn't the last season is completely pointless because it is the last season.

And I never once said I'm superior. The only thing I claim is that I can use logic to determine who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't. Logic indicates that RPM is the last season. Simple as that. You can infer what you want, but that is all I am saying. I don't know any more about Power Rangers' future than you do, but I do know how to use logic.

And I should report you for saying I'm full of it. Get a handle on yourself.

I also like how you conveniently didn't respond to any of the proof I showed in the post. Way to go.

DarkWish, you're being a troll. Simply put.

If you continue with this "attitude", no one's going to take what you say seriously, and they WILL dismiss it.

Until you understand this, there is nothing more anyone can say.

If you want people to listen to what you're saying (yet alone consider it), start being a little less irrational just because a few people "don't" agree with you.

Get a handle on yourself, you are acting full of it.

EDIT: It doesn't matter if one person posts something truthful in the past or not, doesn't mean everything they post in the future is automatically true.

From experiences shown, PR fans are wise to dismiss any PR rumours as soon as they come, 90% of the time they are false. When they are confirmed on the show, that's the right time for the majority of fans to believe it.

If they end up being true, then great. Most of the time, they aren't.

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 06:12 PM

DarkWish, you're being a troll. Simply put.

If you continue with this "attitude", no one's going to take what you say seriously, and they WILL dismiss it.

Until you understand this, there is nothing more anyone can say.

Get a handle on yourself, you are acting full of it.
Once again, you continue to dodge what I said. Tell me how you can say RPM is not the last season. I gave you proof, now I want to see yours. The only attituted I have is simple logic that if someone is right over and over and over for years about stuff that cannot be guessed, then I know they'll be right again.

Tell me this Jiemusu, can you guess that there would have been a teamup in Operation Overdrive with Adam, Bridge, Xander, Tori, and Kira? Definitely not. The people I am talking about are reliable and you still keep dodging the question about why you aren't believing them.

I don't know about you, but I'm here to discuss Power Rangers, not talk smack about people whom you know nothing about. Now please bring this discussion back to Power Rangers and explain your side of the argument instead of just continuing to troll.

EDIT:

EDIT: It doesn't matter if one person posts something truthful in the past or not, doesn't mean everything they post in the future is automatically true.

From experiences shown, PR fans are wise to dismiss any PR rumours as soon as they come, 90% of the time they are false. When they are confirmed on the show, that's the right time for the majority of fans to believe it.
I don't know what you've been reading, but I have never read a false rumor on these forums. The only false things I've read are from people stating their opinions which other people then come to believe are fact. Obviously those were false to begin with. And that still doesn't explain why you're not believe EDDIE GUZELIAN.

Super Jeff

02-28-2009, 06:18 PM

Jiemusu

02-28-2009, 06:21 PM

Once again, you continue to dodge what I said. Tell me how you can say RPM is not the last season. I gave you proof, now I want to see yours. The only attituted I have is simple logic that if someone is right over and over and over for years about stuff that cannot be guessed, then I know they'll be right again.

About 90% of so called "PR predictions" are false.

The wisest thing any PR fan can do is wait until these predictions actually take their cause.

My proof of whether RPM is or isn't the last season is when RPM is finished, we'll find out then. That, my friend, is the biggest "proof" you can ever get.

And by the way, to assume that someone is automatically right all the time no question because they've had a wave of being right a few times is kind of flawed. If they end up being wrong, you'd look silly.

Tell me this Jiemusu, can you guess that there would have been a teamup in Operation Overdrive with Adam, Bridge, Xander, Tori, and Kira? Definitely not. The people I am talking about are reliable and you still keep dodging the question about why you aren't believing them.

I'm not saying I automatically don't believe them, I'm saying with pretty much most PR rumours being fake, I wait until the teamup or season starts before I'm all "z0mg this retr0 ranger is returning".

Rumours told us Adam would be the Jungle Fury Wolf Ranger too.

PR fans are wise to ignore rumours, and wait to see what happens.

I don't know about you, but I'm here to discuss Power Rangers, not talk smack about people whom you know nothing about. Now please bring this discussion back to Power Rangers and explain your side of the argument instead of just continuing to troll.

I'm not actually trolling, that's the thing. You're only saying that because you're just copying what I already claimed you're doing, because you couldn't think of anything more witty, but whatever.

By telling me to shut up, you were.

Anyway. I'm here to discuss Power Rangers too, but I'm not going to just believe rumours just because some people think it's true.

I'll wait until a year after RPM, like any sensible PR fan will do.

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 06:21 PM

Hey now guys calm down.

Now Jiemusu I look forword to what you say every time I post something. However this could be true. Yet Disney could change their minds again. I beleive that Disney probably wants to end it.

Dark Wish I beleive that you have good info as I see you update the Main RPM Forum for the past month.

However this no time to fight. Instead we should just talk about what makes us happy and that is power rangers.

What would Zordon say if he saw 2 passionate fans as yourself fighting?
That is exactly what I want to do. In fact, I said that this whole thing was pointless since we should be discussing the season.

EDIT:
About 90% of so called "PR predictions" are false.

The wisest thing any PR fan can do is wait until these predictions actually take their cause.

My proof of whether RPM is or isn't the last season is when RPM is finished, we'll find out then. That, my friend, is the biggest "proof" you can ever get.

And by the way, to assume that someone is automatically right all the time no question because they've had a wave of being right a few times is kind of flawed. If they end up being wrong, you'd look silly.
If we waited until the show finished for real, true "proof", then we wouldn't know almost all of the things we know about RPM today. I mean, the show hasn't aired yet, so we can't believe all the stuff we know.

And if that's the case, we shouldn't believe a thing that the first post in the RPM info topic says. Daniel Ewing playing the Black Ranger who is named Dillon? Must be fake since Fury Diamond can't always be right. You're just like my roommate who refused to believe anything unless they're a press release. There ARE people out there with inside information, that's actually possible you know.

I don't just believe anyone. I thought MR-Aftershock was just some random guy who didn't know what he was saying for a while, but after a while what he said kept coming true and now I know he knows what he is talking about.

I'm not saying I automatically don't believe them, I'm saying with pretty much most PR rumours being fake, I wait until the teamup or season starts before I'm all "z0mg this retr0 ranger is returning".

Rumours told us Adam would be the Jungle Fury Wolf Ranger too.

PR fans are wise to ignore rumours, and wait to see what happens.
See, I knew this is what you were thinking and I'm glad you said it. Let me clarify this once and for all: THERE WAS NEVER A RUMOR THAT ADAM WAS THE WOLF RANGER. The ONLY thing that was was someone saying that Adam should be Wolf Ranger and it was put up on Wikipedia. The gullible people in the world saw it on Wiki and then posted here saying "I heard Adam was the Wolf Ranger". That was not ever a rumor. If you take into consideration what everyone says as a possibility, then of course you're going to think that most rumors are false. The fact of the matter is though that those were never rumors to begin with, just wishful thinking.

I'm not actually trolling, that's the thing. You're only saying that because you're just copying what I already claimed you're doing, because you couldn't think of anything more witty, but whatever.

By telling me to shut up, you were.

Anyway. I'm here to discuss Power Rangers too, but I'm not going to just believe rumours just because some people think it's true.

I'll wait until a year after RPM, like any sensible PR fan will do.
Because I couldn't think of anything more witty? I'm not here to argue, simple as that. I'm here to state my point, support it with the facts and evidence, and have a discussion about Power Rangers. You can do what you want and keep waiting until the show airs for proof, but don't contradict yourself then. You can't believe that Gem and Gemma are the Gold and Silver Rangers then, simply because it has a 90% chance of being false, right?

Regardless, I've stated my point and given evidence against yours. That's all I intended to do and I intend on continuing a productive discussion on Power Rangers RPM so let's just end this and move on to that.

DarkWolf21

02-28-2009, 06:22 PM

Razor

02-28-2009, 06:24 PM

Question

02-28-2009, 06:25 PM

It's going to be fun bumping this thread when the next series is announced.

DarkWish, you and your high horse are adorable. If I had the patience to respond to seventeen paragraph posts right now, I totally would (search my posts; I've done it before!), but for now, I'm just going to laugh at how you don't seem to like it when people call them like they see them.

PR's not going animated, even if I kind of want it to.

I don't know what you've been reading, but I have never read a false rumor on these forums.

And this is why I'm not just taking your word for anything right now.

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 06:34 PM

It's going to be fun bumping this thread when the next series is announced.
The difference is that at this point in time, RPM is the last season. If it changes, then that statement was never wrong. Eddie Guzelian himself confirmed that Jungle Fury was going to be the last season. At the time the rumor was stated, it was true. It was going to be the last season. Things can always change, however at the moment what I am stating is what is true.

And this is why I'm not just taking your word for anything right now.
Once again, just because someone reads on Wiki that Adam is the Wolf Ranger and then posts it here doesn't mean it's a rumor. I think people have to understand that you can't consider what everyone says as possibly being true. There are some people that you should listen to as a rumor and some you should know right away that are false. That comes with time and hopefully people will come to realize that.

Jiemusu

02-28-2009, 06:38 PM

He'd tell Jiemusu to go for the jugular. lol No, I'm just playing.

:p

The truth of it is, is plain and simple. There's no real way to know how it's going to end this season until we get there. It's all just speculation until then. We can argue about it till the cows come home but until we get there, there's no real way to see the end (unless one of you has a crystal ball).

This, this, a thousand times, this.

There IS no way of knowing for sure until the season or teamups ACTUALLY air, or are confirmed with related media such as promos or images.

People really need to start getting this.

Ignore PR rumours, the risk of them being fake are too high. They outweight the potential right ones, the ratio is too unbalanced and it's not worth it. It will only lead to a lot of disappointment.

There is no way of telling for sure until we cross the bridge.

However, should this be the last season, would someone go back and do an American version season of anything from Goranger-Jetman? Would we maybe see someone pick up Jetman? If we couldn't move forward series-wise, could we go back? Would we go back?

That'll be quite an interesting idea actually. Problem is the Sentai footage is largely tacky and outdated now.

Disney would have to get Sentai to remake all the footage, or remake the footage themselves.

I would kill to see JAKQ and Liveman adapted.

It's going to be fun bumping this thread when the next series is announced.

I recall this being said back when Operation Overdrive was considered the "last season" and Jungle Fury was just a rumour.

DarkWish, you and your high horse are adorable. If I had the patience to respond to seventeen paragraph posts right now, I totally would (search my posts; I've done it before!), but for now, I'm just going to laugh at how you don't seem to like it when people call them like they see them.

This.

If DarkWish has never heard of a false rumour on the boards, then he either needs to lurk more (ALOT more) or only reads and listens simply to what he wants and nothing more.

There's Adam returning as the Jungle Fury Wolf Ranger, AND Black RPM.

There's Kim returning in Mystic Force.

There was even one as Skull returning as the Jungle Fury Shark Ranger.

PR. RUMOURS. SHOULD. NOT. BE. TRUSTED.

Even if they end up being right. If they ARE, then we'll find out WHEN IT AIRES.

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 06:40 PM

If DarkWish has never heard of a false rumour on the boards, then he either needs to lurk more (ALOT more) or only reads and listens simply to what he wants and nothing more.

There's Adam returning as the Jungle Fury Wolf Ranger, AND Black RPM.

There's Kim returning in Mystic Force.

There was even one as Skull returning as the Jungle Fury Shark Ranger.

PR. RUMOURS. SHOULD. NOT. BE. TRUSTED.

Even if they end up being right. If they ARE, then we'll find out WHEN IT AIRES.
Once again, those things were never considered rumors in the first place. I consider a rumor to be anything that is possible, but not yet confirmed. The things above were never possibilities and so they were never rumors.

Question

02-28-2009, 06:42 PM

The difference is that at this point in time, RPM is the last season. If it changes, then that statement was never wrong. Eddie Guzelian himself confirmed that Jungle Fury was going to be the last season. At the time the rumor was stated, it was true. It was going to be the last season. Things can always change, however at the moment what I am stating is what is true.

So... basically, you're allowed to come into this thread and post things like this:

Power Rangers is ending. Deal with. Eddie Guzelian himself confirmed this on Rangercast. Those of you that have known me for a while know that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to rumors. The same sources I have stood by for a long time and have never been wrong are saying it's over. If you don't believe them, that's your problem. You're in denial.

...when you admit yourself that this may not even be the case.

Right.

Telling people to "get over it" because they're "in denial", when you admit the possiblity that things may work out the way they're claiming they will?

This is like if I came into a thread in 2003ish and insulted people for thinking that Tommy was going to come back for Dino Thunder, but I might be wrong so possibly never mind.

Once again, just because someone reads on Wiki that Adam is the Wolf Ranger and then posts it here doesn't mean it's a rumor. I think people have to understand that you can't consider what everyone says as possibly being true. There are some people that you should listen to as a rumor and some you should know right away that are false. That comes with time and hopefully people will come to realize that.

No, that absolutely makes it a rumor. Maybe not a widespread rumor, but it's definitely a rumor. I'm interested to know what you think the word means. This here isn't me mocking you; I'm really wondering if we're thinking of two different words here.

Super Jeff

02-28-2009, 06:44 PM

Ha Ha Pointless

Question

02-28-2009, 06:45 PM

I am very argumentative.

DarkWolf21

02-28-2009, 06:45 PM

Ignore PR rumours, the risk of them being fake are too high. They outweight the potential right ones, the ratio is too unbalanced and it's not worth it. It will only lead to a lot of disappointment

Look, I understand where you're coming from, but situations like this shouldn't be taken too lightly. I see why you don't think the rumors aren't true, but you should pay attention to them incase they are true.

Jiemusu

02-28-2009, 06:46 PM

That's where you could be considered wrong DarkWolf. They SHOULD be taken lightely until it's time for the season or teamup to appear.

It's not worth paying attention to 90% of false rumours people compose to give their fanfictions validity JUST to discover one within the bunch which is true, when it's easier to just not be impatient and wait until that season aires, then we'll discover anyway.

Once again, those things were never considered rumors in the first place. I consider a rumor to be anything that is possible, but not yet confirmed. The things above were never possibilities and so they were never rumors.

Why couldn't they have been possibilities?

Skull being the Shark Ranger, granted that is insane.

Kim simply returning as an ally or friend in Mystic Force isn't that far off, since Rita appeared as the Mystic Mother.

Adam was already given a reputation overflow with fanboyism from PRIS and OAR returns. Tommy had already returned as a mentor in Dino Thunder. Jungle Fury is in the same Ranger format as Dino Thunder, why isn't it possible for Adam to recieve a further fanboyism boost by doing the exact same thing an existing Zordon-era Ranger did?

From what PR fans know of Zordon era Rangers. If you've returned once, you're gona be one of the only ones to ever return.

Granted they were all false. But to make out that all of them were a distinct no possibility is flawed. I could have definitly seen the last one happening. It was a possibility, and it wasn't confirmed. By your logic, that was a rumour, and it ended up being false.

Question

02-28-2009, 06:47 PM

I really wanted to see Captain Janeway in Dino Thunder. I was disappointed when they brought back Tommy instead.

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 06:47 PM

So... basically, you're allowed to come into this thread and post things like this:

...when you admit yourself that this may not even be the case.

Right.

Telling people to "get over it" because they're "in denial", when you admit the possiblity that things may work out the way they're claiming they will?

This is like if I came into a thread in 2003ish and insulted people for thinking that Tommy was going to come back for Dino Thunder, but I might be wrong so possibly never mind.

No, that absolutely makes it a rumor. Maybe not a widespread rumor, but it's definitely a rumor. I'm interested to know what you think the word means.
There's a clear difference. If we are to go by what you say, then we can't believe anything until it airs, which means that most of what we know about RPM is probably false since 90% of rumors are false. Clearly that isn't the case.

In the real world, things change. That is just how the world works. However it is possible to say with certainty how things stand at a certain point. Yes, they may change later, but at that point that is what is going on. I just don't understand how everyone can think people can just get lucky and guess there will be a teamup with Adam, Kira, Tori, Xander, and Bridge. That is not a lucky guess. That is proof that that person has an inside source and what they say is not on the same class as "Adam is the Wolf Ranger". They originated from two different sources: one from nowhere and one from a reliable source.

I stated my definition of the word "rumor" above. To further clarify, let me use video game sites like IGN as an example. A rumor is something that they would be able to post. Something like Adam is the Wolf Ranger doesn't have a clear origin because it was totally made up and if it was video game related, IGN would never post that. They would however post the rumor of RPM ending or whatever because it is a rumor. In this case, I would say it's a true rumor but that's another story.

EDIT:
Why couldn't they have been possibilities?
They can't because the had no origin. They just appeared on forums one day without knowing where the rumor started. A rumor that has no origin could have originated from anyone that simply stated their opinion, someone trying to trick people on Wiki, or whatever other way.

That's like on the news about the Chris Brown incident. At first, nobody knew he beat Rihanna, they just knew he beat someone. There was a rumor that stated that he beat her, and that was considered a rumor because of how what happened to Rihanna at the same time (she was in an accident and her face was bruised; she also wasn't appearing at an awards show or something that day). If someone had said Chris Brown had beat Jordin Sparks for example, that wouldn't be a rumor because there was no place that had said it or even had any sort of evidence.

Super Jeff

02-28-2009, 06:50 PM

Can't we all just agree to disagree?

Razor

02-28-2009, 06:59 PM

Yeah honestly. Like I said, we really won't know PR's fate until we get there. You could find a rumor saying that David Yost was going to make a cameo appearance in RPM in episode whatever whatever but it couldn't be verified until said episode aired.

Jiemusu

02-28-2009, 07:01 PM

There's a clear difference. If we are to go by what you say, then we can't believe anything until it airs, which means that most of what we know about RPM is probably false since 90% of rumors are false. Clearly that isn't the case.

That's just the thing. We can't truely believe anything until it airs.

Impatient fans leads to false speculation, and it always will.

I personally would like to wait until I know something is going to be 100% rather than settle for second, third, or even fourth best to build up.

Start with 10%, then 20%, then 30%.... to 100%.

Or flat out START with 100%.

In the real world, things change. That is just how the world works. However it is possible to say with certainty how things stand at a certain point. Yes, they may change later, but at that point that is what is going on. I just don't understand how everyone can think people can just get lucky and guess there will be a teamup with Adam, Kira, Tori, Xander, and Bridge. That is not a lucky guess. That is proof that that person has an inside source and what they say is not on the same class as "Adam is the Wolf Ranger". They originated from two different sources: one from nowhere and one from a reliable source.

Simply put, if it changes then it obviously wasn't right to begin with. Even if it was true at the time, it was no longer true when the season aired. So to gather information on a new season BASED on the "false" rumours before that had to be corrected, that's not really a smart thing to do.

This only supports that fans should wait until the information is 100% before claiming it as true. You included.

I stated my definition of the word "rumor" above. To further clarify, let me use video game sites like IGN as an example. A rumor is something that they would be able to post. Something like Adam is the Wolf Ranger doesn't have a clear origin because it was totally made up and if it was video game related, IGN would never post that. They would however post the rumor of RPM ending or whatever because it is a rumor. In this case, I would say it's a true rumor but that's another story.

I like how you deny putting yourself on a higher plane or trying to act superior yet you feel you have the right to redefine a dictionary definition.

Sorry to say this, but you haven't got the right to rewrite the English language.

A rumour is a rumour, that's what is is, you can't "change" the definition of a word just because it goes against your point. Are you serious with this?

They can't because the had no origin. They just appeared on forums one day without knowing where the rumor started. A rumor that has no origin could have originated from anyone that simply stated their opinion, someone trying to trick people on Wiki, or whatever other way.

How do you know that?

Their origins could have been the same as yours. You could be one of those people.

I mean how would you know for sure?

... until the season aires.

Question

02-28-2009, 07:04 PM

In the real world, things change. That is just how the world works.

Which is why I said:

If we are to go by what you say, then we can't believe anything until it airs

You actually agree with me!

Since things change in the real world, we can't believe anything until the show airs! Because things could change! In the real world!

King

02-28-2009, 07:06 PM

Power Rangers is ending. Deal with. Eddie Guzelian himself confirmed this on Rangercast. Those of you that have known me for a while know that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to rumors. The same sources I have stood by for a long time and have never been wrong are saying it's over. If you don't believe them, that's your problem. You're in denial.

Eddie also says he does not have first hand info about any of this and actually said that people on the message boards may have a better idea of this then he would.

I really don't know. It sounds like people on the boards have been through the ups and downs of being faced with cancellation for years, so you may have a better idea about this than me. As I've said before, I was told from the beginning that Jungle Fury was supposed to be the final season and that RPM was not even meant to have happened. I should make it clear that I do not have first-hand knowledge about any of this, but this is what I was told by Disney when I first began the job.

Wow, RangerTalk has changed. The people that posted here that knew what they were talking about it less and less. The first time we ACTUALLY had a rumor that Power Rangers was ending was for Jungle Fury. Jungle Fury WAS supposed to be the last season. Everyone keeps saying that we've seen this rumor every year, but no we haven't. What we have seen is some random person saying "why don't we have info yet? ZOMG Power Rangers is ending!" which does NOT equal a rumor.

Just because someone thinks it doesn't make it a rumor. The first, REAL rumor we had was that Jungle Fury was the last season and Power Rangers was ending. That came from Poweranimals and it wasn't ever proven false. That was real. Jungle Fury was going to be the last season, but things changed. At the time it was stated, it was true. That can't be denied.

Now this rumor is here and this time it is true as well. To those that don't think it is, then there's simply two reasons: you either don't know what the definition of a reliable source is or you're in denial. People, Eddie Guzelian himself confirmed that Jungle Fury was going to be the last season and that Disney was treating this season as if it was not even meant to happen. Power Rangers is ending. You want proof? I've given countless bits of evidence over the years and even though it's seriously annoying that everyone has just thrown that out the window, I'll post even more evidence.

Considering the fact that RPM is a season that wasn't suppose to have happened, it seems that we should all be a little more optimistic about PR 2010 and beyond. RPM airing next week proves that whats circulating right now is not 100%.

EDIT: By the way, Darkwish isn't the ass hole that some of you are trying to make him out to be. Even though he may be getting a little ahead of himself. He's just a fan that is concerned (and again, getting ahead of himself).

Question

02-28-2009, 07:10 PM

His very first post that I've read was saying I was in denial and implying I was stupid for believing something that he later admitted may turn out to actually be the case.

He may not be an asshole, but that irked me.

Super Jeff

02-28-2009, 07:18 PM

Now lets give Dark Wish a break I mean he has been updating the RPM thread with valuable info for the month. I think he defends it because he trusts the sources as they do seem reliable.

Jiemusu I look forword to what you have to say in almost every post. Even you have to admit that this could be the final season as their has been struggle for keeping PR in production the last few years. You are a wise one I can tell.

However you are both fans and please respect each other as such.

Razor

02-28-2009, 07:20 PM

Hear, hear, Jeff. Can't we agree to let this rest until after we've seen the final product? We all seem to agree that nothing can be certain until it aires, so how is that this thread is still going?

Rebelde

02-28-2009, 07:23 PM

I am still surprised no one has been going all "OMG ADAM WILL RETURN IN RPM!" >_>

Razor

02-28-2009, 07:25 PM

Cause we're not stupid. If Adam were returning, John Young Bosch would tell us on his myspace blogs, most likely.

Rebelde

02-28-2009, 07:29 PM

Cause we're not stupid. If Adam were returning, John Young Bosch would tell us on his myspace blogs, most likely.

But still, last year people were going all "ADAM IS RETURNING IN JUNGLE FURY blabla" .. "Once a ranger" really made people go crazy -.-

Razor

02-28-2009, 07:36 PM

I know what you mean though. Originally I saw an edited video on youtube with a slightly blurred pic of Adam in the violet wolf ranger costume and I was dupped at first. I actually was looking forward to them using the whole "boxing ring" thing like in the sentai but it didn't happen.

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 08:17 PM

You actually agree with me!

Since things change in the real world, we can't believe anything until the show airs! Because things could change! In the real world!
No, I don't agree. I just understand what you're saying and disagree. All I'm saying is that if we use your logic, then we wouldn't have anything to discuss about Power Rangers RPM because most of what we know didn't come from Disney so we don't know it's true. I think the clear difference is in just how much faith we have in reliable sources. Some people here are like me and think that if someone is reliable, then they can be trusted. Others here aren't as trusting and want to wait it out, not believing anything. I don't think there is anyone here in a third category, which are the people that trust everything they here.

By the way, Darkwish isn't the ass hole that some of you are trying to make him out to be. Even though he may be getting a little ahead of himself. He's just a fan that is concerned (and again, getting ahead of himself).
Thank you! I realize that nothing is 100% set in stone until it airs, but the KEY difference between me and the others here is that I don't need something to be 100% set in stone for me to believe it, while others do. In my experience, I've come to learn that and others have gotten the opposite impression so they do what they do.

His very first post that I've read was saying I was in denial and implying I was stupid for believing something that he later admitted may turn out to actually be the case.

He may not be an asshole, but that irked me.
I never once singled anyone out when I first posted in this topic, go back and check. And once again, it all comes down to how just how much proof you need before you believe something. You and others need basically a press release or the episode itself. I am content with reliable sources. The reason I do that is because I get a lot more information about the show that cannot be obtained by official sources until the episode airs. As a huge PR fan, I just can't wait for the season and so I have accepted reliable sources as valid sources of information. They've never failed me, so I'll continue to do what I've always done.

Now lets give Dark Wish a break I mean he has been updating the RPM thread with valuable info for the month. I think he defends it because he trusts the sources as they do seem reliable.

Jiemusu I look forword to what you have to say in almost every post. Even you have to admit that this could be the final season as their has been struggle for keeping PR in production the last few years. You are a wise one I can tell.

However you are both fans and please respect each other as such.
Thank you. And I do respect Jiemusu. I realized I have seen him around now that he mentioned it and I respect him for his opinion and everything he says. I simply disagreed on something and then everyone in the thread just went against me since I was the lone one who believed reliable sources. I was singled out simply because I had a different opinion. Okay, maybe it was said in a slightly arrogant matter but I was just ticked off (as I stated) that after all the effort I have put in the past few years to prove that certain people were reliable, that was all just thrown down the drain.

I don't know if Jiemusu, Question, or any of the others here respect me as well like I do to them(probably not, as their posts indicate), and I'm fine with that. I'm just here to discuss Power Rangers The people on Rangerboard overall (not everyone) is stuck up and I wanted to go to a friendlier environment so I came here. I wanted to bring my thoughts with me and to help tell what I have learned to everyone here. I've said what needs to be said and it's up to everyone whether they use it or not. My experience has showed me that I can trust certain, specific reliable sources and so that's what I do. Others haven't had those experiences and I haven't had theirs so there's a differing opinion.

Razor

02-28-2009, 08:20 PM

I respect where you're coming from, Darkwish, but as I said, I must reserve judgment on things until I see them for myself. If live action does or doesn't end, we'll just see, but I prefer to wait and see for myself before I believe anything 100%.

Question

02-28-2009, 08:50 PM

No, I don't agree. I just understand what you're saying and disagree. All I'm saying is that if we use your logic, then we wouldn't have anything to discuss about Power Rangers RPM because most of what we know didn't come from Disney so we don't know it's true.

We could always discuss the rumors. Which is what we're doing.

So, same difference either way, really.

I never once singled anyone out when I first posted in this topic, go back and check.

Okay. Here's your first post in this thread. Bolded are the parts that offended me.

Power Rangers is ending. Deal with. Eddie Guzelian himself confirmed this on Rangercast. Those of you that have known me for a while know that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to rumors. The same sources I have stood by for a long time and have never been wrong are saying it's over. If you don't believe them, that's your problem. You're in denial.

You said we're in denial, you said to "deal with ", and you said having our own opinion on the matter is our own problem.

Had this been my first post in this thread, responding to whatever side you were on, you'd have been pretty pissed too, I bet.

And once again, it all comes down to how just how much proof you need before you believe something. You and others need basically a press release or the episode itself.

Which I said, so yes.

I am content with reliable sources.

Even if you admit they may be wrong.

I'm just calling right here and now that they're going to turn out to be wrong, or change in the future, and you're arguing with me (us) on it even though [i]you said the same thing!

The reason I do that is because I get a lot more information about the show that cannot be obtained by official sources until the episode airs. As a huge PR fan, I just can't wait for the season and so I have accepted reliable sources as valid sources of information. They've never failed me, so I'll continue to do what I've always done.

To be fair, part of why they haven't failed you is that you're redefining the English language to suit your needs.

I'm referring to your definition of 'rumor' here.

I don't know if Jiemusu, Question, or any of the others here respect me as well like I do to them(probably not, as their posts indicate), and I'm fine with that.

Despite how into arguments I seem to get, you shouldn't take any heated tone here as evidence of my feelings about you specifically one way or the other. Look at Jiemusu - we're on the same side here, but I've argued vehemently with him in the past about other topics. It's just an argument, not the end of the world.

I don't know you well enough to respect or disrespect you. In a day or so, I'll probably forget this argument even happened. Unless I don't because I said that.

I respect where you're coming from, Darkwish, but as I said, I must reserve judgment on things until I see them for myself. If live action does or doesn't end, we'll just see, but I prefer to wait and see for myself before I believe anything 100%.

This. Oh my, yes, this.

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 09:07 PM

You said we're in denial, you said to "deal with ", and you said having our own opinion on the matter is our own problem.

Had this been my first post in this thread, responding to whatever side you were on, you'd have been pretty pissed too, I bet.
Are you calling me a liar? I said I didn't single anyone out. The "you" in that post, was not in reference to you, Question. It was a generic reference. I was basically telling anyone in the thread that "If you don't believe them, that's your problem. You're in denial." NOT you specificly. I said I wasn't singling you out, so don't say I am.

Even if you admit they may be wrong.

I'm just calling right here and now that they're going to turn out to be wrong, or change in the future, and you're arguing with me (us) on it even though [i]you said the same thing!
Wrong. I said I believe reliable sources. More specifically, I believe Poweranimals, Fury Diamond, KyL416, BurgundyRanger, MR-Aftershock, and Eddie Guzelian. I don't believe any other random person. They have to prove they are credible in my eyes first before I'll believe them. And call what you want, Poweranimals and others were right last year when they said Jungle Fury was going to be the last season. Eddie Guzelian said that it was the last season and was told to treat RPM like he had "nothing to lose" simply because RPM was never supposed to happen.

To be fair, part of why they haven't failed you is that you're redefining the English language to suit your needs.

I'm referring to your definition of 'rumor' here.
I'm not re-defining anything. I think we just both agree on how certain things are obviously fake, like the Adam in Jungle Fury rumors. Because I just know they're fake the second I see it, I have decided to not even think about it and not consider it a rumor. It's not a re-defining of anything, it's just my way of eliminating all the junk to get to the good stuff. I suppose you could consider them rumors, but whatever the case it doesn't even matter to me what you call it because I don't even bother to consider it regardless. I just know those things are fake simply because of the circumstances. I've gotten to learn that by experience I suppose.

Despite how into arguments I seem to get, you shouldn't take any heated tone here as evidence of my feelings about you specifically one way or the other. Look at Jiemusu - we're on the same side here, but I've argued vehemently with him in the past about other topics. It's just an argument, not the end of the world.

I don't know you well enough to respect or disrespect you. In a day or so, I'll probably forget this argument even happened. Unless I don't because I said that.
I know that, I never said this is the end of the world. You have to understand that in any discussion, debate, argument, or whatever, the person that is on a side on his own is going to get heated the most simply because it feels like everyone is against him. That's just the nature of the argument. I have arguments with my roommate basically everyday and we're still friends and stuff. I don't hate anyone here because of any argument I've gotten into with them.

This. Oh my, yes, this.
I already said I understand where you guys are coming from and obviously you're not going to change your mind. I have a right to believe what I want and think what I want too. Like I said, there's one KEY difference between me and you. You won't believe anything until you see it in an episode. I am willing to believe that as well as certain people (NOT just anyone) whom I believe are reliable based on certain criteria. That seems to be the only difference and there isn't more to say on that matter. We just have to agree to disagree, which I already did.

Question

02-28-2009, 09:15 PM

Are you calling me a liar? I said I didn't single anyone out. The "you" in that post, was not in reference to you, Question. It was a generic reference. I was basically telling anyone in the thread that "If you don't believe them, that's your problem. You're in denial." NOT you specificly. I said I wasn't singling you out, so don't say I am.

Okay.

Now show me where I said you were singling people out. All I said was that you said something that offended me and I responded in kind. If I'm part of the group you're talking about like that, I'm allowed to be offended.

Wrong. I said I believe reliable sources.

The difference is that at this point in time, RPM is the last season. If it changes, then that statement was never wrong. Eddie Guzelian himself confirmed that Jungle Fury was going to be the last season. At the time the rumor was stated, it was true. It was going to be the last season. Things can always change, however at the moment what I am stating is what is true.

You yourself admitted things can change. I'm just running with it.

I'm not re-defining anything. I think we just both agree on how certain things are obviously fake, like the Adam in Jungle Fury rumors. Because I just know they're fake the second I see it, I have decided to not even think about it and not consider it a rumor.

You don't consider the Adam in PRJF rumors to be rumors, despite the fact that you just called them rumors in the previous sentence!

This is why I say wacky things like you're trying to redefine the language.

It's not a re-defining of anything, it's just my way of eliminating all the junk to get to the good stuff.

You're... redefining the word. You're using it differently than the dictionary says it should be used.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rumor

If I say that RPM is going to have Trip return as the Red Ranger, and it gets around, it's a rumor. It's a stupid rumor that no one in their right mind would believe, but it's still a rumor. You can't discount things as rumors because they don't come from reputable sources, because that's what rumors are.

I suppose you could consider them rumors, but whatever the case it doesn't even matter to me what you call it because I don't even bother to consider it regardless.

Then they're fake rumors. Still rumors, though.

I know that, I never said this is the end of the world. You have to understand that in any discussion, debate, argument, or whatever, the person that is on a side on his own is going to get heated the most simply because it feels like everyone is against him. That's just the nature of the argument. I have arguments with my roommate basically everyday and we're still friends and stuff. I don't hate anyone here because of any argument I've gotten into with them.

No, I know. I never assumed you disliked me because of the argument we're having here; I was just saying that I don't disrespect you, for the same reason.

I already said I understand where you guys are coming from and obviously you're not going to change your mind. I have a right to believe what I want and think what I want too. Like I said, there's one KEY difference between me and you. You won't believe anything until you see it in an episode. I am willing to believe that as well as certain people (NOT just anyone) whom I believe are reliable based on certain criteria. That seems to be the only difference and there isn't more to say on that matter. We just have to agree to disagree, which I already did.

I would also accept a press release.

GoldPhoenixRanger

02-28-2009, 09:36 PM

Man, this is one heated thread today! Allow me to clarify something regarding this whole "rumor" definition thing. Technically, everyone who has used the word is right, and has simply used it in a different manner. I'll use my old friend Merriam-Webster to explain:

rumor
2 entries found.

1rumor (noun)
2rumor (transitive verb)

Main Entry: 1ru·mor
Pronunciation: \ˈrü-mər\
Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English rumour, from Anglo-French, from Latin rumor clamor, gossip; akin to Old English rēon to lament, Sanskrit rauti he roars
Date: 14th century

1: talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source
2: a statement or report current without known authority for its truth
3: archaic : talk or report of a notable person or event
4: a soft low indistinct sound : murmur

I'll draw your attention to definitions 1 and 2. It is obvious to me that:

1) Darkwish subscribes to definition #2, because he believes that a rumor has a known source (which in this case he believes are reliable) and simply aren't 100% fact yet because the show hasn't aired yet.

2) Jimesu and Question clearly subscribe to definition #1 because they are counting as rumors anything that most anybody says, such as "Adam is going to be the Wolf Ranger" because it has no source yet it was being said.

Therefore, technically you are both right. I think you guys need to agree to disagree. If Darkwish wants to trust people he feels are reliable (and I happen to agree with him on that point) then so be it. If others don't trust the sources and prfer to wait for the show to air, then thats fine too. The thing is a week from today, I think we can last that long without killing each other over this, don't you?

Ok, Sermon over, going on to a legit topic, I would love to see the older Sentai seasons made into PR, but as was mentioned it would look cheesy simply because the footage is aged. The zord footage and probably most of the battle footage is fine for seasons after the first few, but I think GoRanger and JAKQ would need to be re-shot.

-GPR

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 09:40 PM

Okay.

Now show me where I said you were singling people out. All I said was that you said something that offended me and I responded in kind. If I'm part of the group you're talking about like that, I'm allowed to be offended.
My bad, I read your post wrong. I'm sorry. And I came into this whole thing heated after reading this thread full of people that were saying incorrect things. I respect everyone's opinion that RPM may not be the last season, however there were some things said that were incorrect and I was annoyed that they were widespread thoughts. It's one thing to not believe RPM being the last season, but calling those people that have given us inside information liars is something that ticks me off.

You yourself admitted things can change. I'm just running with it.
That goes for anything in the world. I just don't think you can then shut yourself off from society and not believe a word anyone says. If the economy is horrible now and years from now it isn't, then does that mean it was never horrible? No, it means that it was horrible at that time. In this case, you wouldn't be able to prove this stuff officially, but I believe you don't need official things to know if something is real or not. That's the difference that I agreed to disagree on.

You don't consider the Adam in PRJF rumors to be rumors, despite the fact that you just called them rumors in the previous sentence!

This is why I say wacky things like you're trying to redefine the language.

You're... redefining the word. You're using it differently than the dictionary says it should be used.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rumor

If I say that RPM is going to have Trip return as the Red Ranger, and it gets around, it's a rumor. It's a stupid rumor that no one in their right mind would believe, but it's still a rumor. You can't discount things as rumors because they don't come from reputable sources, because that's what rumors are.

Then they're fake rumors. Still rumors, though.

The reason I don't call it a rumor is just because I don't even hesitate to think it could be true, unlike I do for rumors. I just called it a rumor earlier to emphasize that we both know that those things aren't true but you call it a rumor and I don't. I'm not re-defining anything, I just don't even think about those things. I don't have a name for those things. I can have my own interpretation of a word without re-defining it. Regardless, this is now turning into nitpicking and it's pointless. We both have the same idea about those types of things, however you call them a rumor and classify those with all the other rumors and I don't even think about them all. Call it what you want, but it all once again boils down to what you are willing to believe vs. what I am willing to believe.

I would also accept a press release.
Press release or the episode itself, you settle for only the official stuff. I settle for more than that. There is one question bugging me though... do you believe the actor and actress for the Gold and Silver Rangers, as well as the other RPM info in the stickied topic? It's not confirmed after all. Even though every bit of what we now know about RPM officially confirmed what was rumored, did you believe that stuff before the promo or any other official word from Disney?

EDIT:
Man, this is one heated thread today! Allow me to clarify something regarding this whole "rumor" definition thing. Technically, everyone who has used the word is right, and has simply used it in a different manner. I'll use my old friend Merriam-Webster to explain:

I'll draw your attention to definitions 1 and 2. It is obvious to me that:

1) Darkwish subscribes to definition #2, because he believes that a rumor has a known source (which in this case he believes are reliable) and simply aren't 100% fact yet because the show hasn't aired yet.

2) Jimesu and Question clearly subscribe to definition #1 because they are counting as rumors anything that most anybody says, such as "Adam is going to be the Wolf Ranger" because it has no source yet it was being said.

Therefore, technically you are both right. I think you guys need to agree to disagree. If Darkwish wants to trust people he feels are reliable (and I happen to agree with him on that point) then so be it. If others don't trust the sources and prfer to wait for the show to air, then thats fine too. The thing is a week from today, I think we can last that long without killing each other over this, don't you?

Ok, Sermon over, going on to a legit topic, I would love to see the older Sentai seasons made into PR, but as was mentioned it would look cheesy simply because the footage is aged. The zord footage and probably most of the battle footage is fine for seasons after the first few, but I think GoRanger and JAKQ would need to be re-shot.

-GPR
Thank you. I think that about sums it up pretty nicely. I say we end this and agree to disagree.

Question

02-28-2009, 09:46 PM

My bad, I read your post wrong. I'm sorry. And I came into this whole thing heated after reading this thread full of people that were saying incorrect things. I respect everyone's opinion that RPM may not be the last season, however there were some things said that were incorrect and I was annoyed that they were widespread thoughts. It's one thing to not believe RPM being the last season, but calling those people that have given us inside information liars is something that ticks me off.

No worries.

That goes for anything in the world. I just don't think you can then shut yourself off from society and not believe a word anyone says.

You're getting this from my unwillingness to believe hearsay about a television show?

If the economy is horrible now and years from now it isn't, then does that mean it was never horrible? No, it means that it was horrible at that time. In this case, you wouldn't be able to prove this stuff officially, but I believe you don't need official things to know if something is real or not. That's the difference that I agreed to disagree on.

You... kind of do, though.

I know I keep bringing this up to the point where it's probably getting irritating, but you did say these things are possibly subject to change. You can believe it, sure, but that doesn't mean it's absolutely going to happen. Neither of us knows anything for sure, official sources or not.

Press release or the episode itself, you settle for only the official stuff. I settle for more than that. There is one question bugging me though... do you believe the actor and actress for the Gold and Silver Rangers, as well as the other RPM info in the stickied topic? It's not confirmed after all. Even though every bit of what we now know about RPM officially confirmed what was rumored, did you believe that stuff before the promo or any other official word from Disney?

I don't read the stickied RPM topic at all to begin with. Mostly because I believe very little of it. Partially because I want to be surprised.

But have I ever seen reports of actors which were later proven wrong? Yeah, I have.

EDIT:

Thank you. I think that about sums it up pretty nicely. I say we end this and agree to disagree.

Given at this point, we're pretty much just mincing words, I can agree with that.

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 09:54 PM

I don't read the stickied RPM topic at all to begin with. Mostly because I believe very little of it. Partially because I want to be surprised.

But have I ever seen reports of actors which were later proven wrong? Yeah, I have.

Given at this point, we're pretty much just mincing words, I can agree with that.
One last thing I wanted to comment on. There haven't been reports of actors that were proven wrong that were posted by me in the first post. There was one person who was later changed to an extra, but at the time it was posted, she was supposed to be a main character. And I can understand not wanting to be spoiled, however you should know that the information in it has all been true and everything from the leaked promo and whatever we have officially has confirmed it. I think you would better understand (not necessaril agree, but better understand) why I believe what I believe if you saw the sheer amount of information that was posted and I compiled together that turned out to be correct.

Regardless, we shall just move on. I wanted to pose this question to everyone as well. If they were to have an animated series next year, would you want them to try and adapt Shinkenger, do an adaptation of a previous Power Rangers or Sentai series, or do a completely original series?

Question

02-28-2009, 09:59 PM

The Shinkenger costumes are hideous. I figure, if they're going to go animated anyway, better to have original everything.

DarkWish

02-28-2009, 10:04 PM

The Shinkenger costumes are hideous. I figure, if they're going to go animated anyway, better to have original everything.
If they do go animated, I would have to agree with you there. Maybe they can borrow ideas from an unused Sentai series, but I think a completely original desing for the costumes, zords, and everything would be the best for an animated series.

EDIT: Quick clarification. I think the Shinkenger costumes are interesting (not the best, but not bad). I was agreeing with the statement for it to be original.

rmssw

02-28-2009, 10:27 PM

If it goes animated, I think it's all but guaranteed that it would be completely original. The issue from day one with Disney has been cost and if they're going so far as to stop production of the live-action series, they're not going to continue to pay Toei for use of their themes. As much as I will miss live-action Power Rangers, Toei seems to be on a mission to make Sentai impossible to adapt. Each season since Boukenger has been, in my opinion, more ridiculous than the last. The suits have been horrendous and they seem hell-bent on making their footage unusable for American TV. If Disney did continue to make the live-action show, it would have been harder and harder for them to do it decently.

ThatGuy83

02-28-2009, 11:00 PM

Wow, I must be the only one who isn't upset about Power Rangers ending after RPM. Based on the past 4 years of the show I could care less. I just hope RPM will be a good season for PR to end in live action.

Question

02-28-2009, 11:01 PM

I want PR to go animated. It'd be such a better show.

ThatGuy83

02-28-2009, 11:11 PM

An Animated PR would be great. The limitations of live action would no longer be a problem.

Question

02-28-2009, 11:13 PM

...I'm not the only one!

Jiemusu

02-28-2009, 11:14 PM

Ok I've taken a few hours away for a night of stand up comedy followed by kentucky friend chicken, and I present to you, Rangertalk, another view.

If we want to take another direction, we could argue that we'll have 17 season already of adapted Power Rangers, and fans should just stop wanting more, and just be grateful for what's already been made.

I mean they didn't make past seasons so fans could watch those seasons then NEVER watch the season again, and have to watch new seasons after ONLY.

I mean we have like 668+ episodes already. Now for ANY show, yet alone toku, that's WAY more than most franchises have. Hell look at other toku like VR Troopers, only 2 seasons.

I think fans should stop complaining about the future, and just be grateful for the present and past, that's what it was made for.

So what if Power Rangers goes animated. You don't like it? What, are you just like NEVER going to watch any episode of any Power Ranger live-action season EVER again just because the new season is animated? No. Same if it's a live-action series you don't like.

Fans reading this. You have set seasons you like out of the rest right? For me it's Zeo, Ninja Storm, SPD, Mystic Force, Jungle Fury and Zeo. I'll stick to these few seasons. If I don't like newer seasons, I don't care because I won't watch them, I'll watch what's already been made which I like.

Green Mystic Ranger

02-28-2009, 11:30 PM

I think fans should stop complaining about the future, and just be grateful for the present and past, that's what it was made for.

Hit it right on with that. Totally agree with you.

Scales

02-28-2009, 11:30 PM

I'd probably watch animated Power Rangers. But most likely I would laugh at how cheesy it would be.

Also if Power Rangers went animated it would have to compete with quite a lot of other shows out there that are animated. It being live action would keep it being a big fish in a small pond

Ranger Black

02-28-2009, 11:41 PM

Power Rangers should remain live action IMO. It always has been. Making it animated would kill it off. Only 5 year olds would watch it

Green Elephant

03-01-2009, 01:20 AM

Power Rangers is unique because of the blending of American (OK Australian now) and Japanese footage.

Only similar shows like Beetleborgs, Masked Rider, SHSCS, VR Troopers and the current KR Dragon Knight fall into this category

An animated show would eliminate the thing that makes Power Rangers stand out and inevitably kill it by the end of the first animated season.

MMPR22

03-01-2009, 02:38 AM

If this truly the end of live-action PR, do you think they would do a massive teamup movie with every ranger from MMPR to RPM, or would they do a big teamup with the rangers from the shows they created,
or will they continue to shaft us like normal?

DaiRed

03-01-2009, 03:10 AM

DarkWolf21

03-01-2009, 03:19 AM

I really like live-action Power Rangers, but maybe animated won't be so bad. Maybe Disney could find really good animators like the ones who worked on Star Wars! (Well I can dream, can't I? :D)

King

03-01-2009, 05:06 PM

To everybody who wants to throw Eddie's name out their as one of the main reasons you think PR is ending after RPM, how do you explain him not being sure at all about it?

4.) I know RPM is suppose to be the last season, but so was JF. So my question is, on a scale of 1-10 (1 being least likely and 10 being most likely) how likely do you think it is that we may get a live action season past RPM?

4) I wish I could help you here but I would just be guessing. You guys who have been riding the rollercoaster of impending PR doom for all these years would probably know better than I.

twister111

03-01-2009, 05:40 PM

My oppinion about this whole "end of power rangers" thing. The higher ups at Disney might be telling thier staff this to get better seasons out. Thier realistically never gonna go through with it as long as Sentai is around. Yet, they wanted to find a way to get good product. They told some people working on JF "don't worry this is the last season! Go wild." Creative juices flowed. What do you know some contract issue means they got to produce another season. Wash, rinse, repeat with next season. Similar to how Disney calls workers at thier theme parks cast members. Mind games with the staff.

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THAT'S MY OPPINION! JUST WANTED TO STATE THIS SO THAT IT DOESN'T GET CAUGHT UP IN THE RUMOR CONFUSION THING!!! 'KAY THIS IS MY OPPINION! PLEASE DON'T GET WORKED UP, MAD, OR UPSET! THANK YOU.
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Anyways, if live action ended I personally wouldn't want to see an animated Power Rangers. Since they'd most likely animate MMPR instead of going after creating a brand new team. I'de rather them just give the show a rest for a year or, two. Then restart having new seasons or, just release proper DVD boxsets worldwide of the seasons w/special features & all that good stuff.

:cool:

Me-Hostage

03-01-2009, 06:40 PM

Don't you love it. Operation Overdrive was going to be the last season, then Jungle Fury was for fact, going to be the last season. Did you expect this season not to have that same cloud over it? LOL.

Jiemusu

03-01-2009, 06:48 PM

^ What Zeo Power... wait King Goldar said. XD

Also, an interesting thought. Let's take a season of PR that will be the last, for argument sake let's pretend it was OPERATION OVERDRIVE since that was rumoured to be the last originally. :D

Mystic Force aires, then Operation Overdrive aires, as normal. Then instead of adapting Gekiranger (like they did) they went back and remastered previous PR seasons so they are similar to quality as later seasons.

That's right, digitally remaster MMPR. From what I can see, MMPR is averagely outdated, certainly not outdated enough to the point when it can't be digitally remastered, but outdated to the point where it can benefit from it.

Think about it, upgraded CGI morph scenes and updated 'OAR' style morph sequences.

Now that RPM is rumoured to be the last... after RPM, how would people feel about this being an alternative to animated PR?

Razor

03-01-2009, 06:55 PM

Jiemusu

03-01-2009, 07:03 PM

I'd enjoy it. If they did the OAR morph for all the rangers, like TheDragonRanger did with his youtube video, I'd enjoy it very much. However, since the extra rangers always seem to have a morphing sequence different than the rest of the team, I would hope they would make it different for the older teams too.

For example, let's say they used the sequence for the original team that they did for Adam. Okay? The barren landscape that looks like they're on a volcano hill or something? Now enter Tommy (as green ranger), his would consist, I think of some sort of watery-background, a contrast to the rest of the team.

Anyone else think that's a good way to do it?

TheDragonRanger's original sequences had the Green Ranger's morph with the same background as everyone else, it it seemed to work just fine. Remember that his morpher is golden and he acquires a shield mid-morph, so it's not identical to the other 5.

The White Ranger's morph, however, should be different. Different background in this case.

Use Dino Thunder as an example, the Black Ranger was an extra Ranger, identical design to the others but with shield-like additions, and his morph was the same.

However Trent as the White Ranger (2nd Extra like Tommy was in MMPR) recieved a different style morph.

So I'd keep Green as the same, and make White different.

Razor

03-01-2009, 07:09 PM

Well with DT, the rangers flew up in the air and got in costume.

Trent on the other hand, was knelt down and the suit sort of bestowed itself on him, which was a contrast everyone else's.

An example of a different morph: Ryan.

Everyone else in lightspeed rescue came through a shield, Ryan looked like the 'V' was going to crush him, but it didn't.

Hollaman

03-01-2009, 07:34 PM

Power Rangers is just a show. If it ends it ends. There are many other TV shows that are way better than PR which have ended prematurely. We got 17 seasons. I honestly don't care if Power Rangers doesn't get another season. It doesn't run my life.

The show has definently been in decline for almost a decade. I really wish that the show could end with a bang. It's like what Michael Chiklis said about "The Shield" and how he would rather see it end on top than the show "staying to long at the dance" and having people say "Oh, that show used to be good". As much as I like Power Rangers I really think that it "stayed to long at the dance".

2580

03-02-2009, 11:52 AM

The show has definently been in decline for almost a decade. I really wish that the show could end with a bang. It's like what Michael Chiklis said about "The Shield" and how he would rather see it end on top than the show "staying to long at the dance" and having people say "Oh, that show used to be good". As much as I like Power Rangers I really think that it "stayed to long at the dance".

When you say that PR has been in decline for almost a decade, I'm asuming that you're speaking of all seasons after Space. If that is what you meant, then I agree. If PR had ended with Space, it would've gone out on one hell of a high note and we probably would've had all six seasons of PR on DVD a long time ago. :)

Beta Ranger

03-02-2009, 12:11 PM

If these sources are so reliable, how come no one says who they are? Not even a "Disney executive who wishes to remain anonymous" or anything.

I'll believe it when I see a press release from Disney. Not a second sooner.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Wasn't the talk that it was moving to Canada.

DarkProject

03-02-2009, 03:47 PM

Man, I had to stop reading most of the way through because I couldn't handle the annoying degree of certainty certain folks have over their 'sources'.

Those same sources GUARANTEED that we'd have RPM in mid-February on Disney XD. I was called an idiot at the time for not buying one word of it.

I'm going to stick on the side of sanity and not believe it until next year at around this time. If we've got no PR, I guess I move to sub-titled Sentai exclusively. If we do, then I'll be happy. I won't waste time now worrying about it.

Green Elephant

03-02-2009, 04:42 PM

I'd actually prefer it moving to Canada. At least then a few of the actors would be American and maybe even old ones.

Turbo_Red

03-03-2009, 06:47 PM

Wow RangerTalk has gotten crazy since the last time I've been here. All this fighting over nothing.

I personally don't see how it's so hard to accept that Power Rangers may be coming to an end with this season. The writing has been on the wall for years. Disney has NEVER wanted this show. Power Rangers was simply a burden of that they had to shoulder in order to aquire Fox Family. We've talked about this for years, Power Rangers has been the bastard child of Disney since it was bought back in 01. When you see Disney commericals and no sign of a Power Ranger you know where the show stands. When it's a live action show that's relagated only to the cartoon exclusive branch of Disney, you know where it stands.

Power Rangers has been slowly getting phased out of Disney and these reports do nothing but confirm what we all knew was coming. Think about it. Generations slowly had everything Saban phased off television. The many timeslots of the show slowly dwindled down during the week and days. Just think, why would Toon Disney's highest rated shows not make the jump to Disney XD? Disney has made a big deal about XD and it's target audience is Power Rangers' target audience, so why the heck isn't Power Rangers anywhere near XD?

That is proof enough to me. That's not even touching on the fact that RPM will ONLY be seen on ABC, in a timeslot that consistently is pre-empted in numerous markets by college football, golf and all other kind of crap during the course of the Power Ranger season. This has been coming for a while and it should come as no surprise to anybody regardless of whether or not this was a rumor for Jungle Fury.

Mustang3173

03-03-2009, 07:18 PM

I wish 4kids bought power rangers. Sure they ruined a lot of shows, but at least they're doing well with Kamen Rider.

PRangerX

03-03-2009, 10:29 PM

Power Rangers is not neccessarly going to go on as long as Super Sentai goes on. Power Rangers is becoming more expensive to produce by the year. Ratings and Toy Sales have been going down the past few years, which has made it difficult for Disney to make a profit. Thats why RPM is the last season.

Power Rangers won't be gone forever. It will come back in some form. Its too successful a brand to go to be gone forever. Toei and Bandai will certianly pressure Disney to do something with the franchise. Since they make a lot of money of it. Toei makes more money off of Power Rangers then they do Super Sentai.

Wow RangerTalk has gotten crazy since the last time I've been here. All this fighting over nothing.

I personally don't see how it's so hard to accept that Power Rangers may be coming to an end with this season. The writing has been on the wall for years. Disney has NEVER wanted this show. Power Rangers was simply a burden of that they had to shoulder in order to aquire Fox Family. We've talked about this for years, Power Rangers has been the bastard child of Disney since it was bought back in 01. When you see Disney commericals and no sign of a Power Ranger you know where the show stands. When it's a live action show that's relagated only to the cartoon exclusive branch of Disney, you know where it stands.

Power Rangers has been slowly getting phased out of Disney and these reports do nothing but confirm what we all knew was coming. Think about it. Generations slowly had everything Saban phased off television. The many timeslots of the show slowly dwindled down during the week and days. Just think, why would Toon Disney's highest rated shows not make the jump to Disney XD? Disney has made a big deal about XD and it's target audience is Power Rangers' target audience, so why the heck isn't Power Rangers anywhere near XD?

That is proof enough to me. That's not even touching on the fact that RPM will ONLY be seen on ABC, in a timeslot that consistently is pre-empted in numerous markets by college football, golf and all other kind of crap during the course of the Power Ranger season. This has been coming for a while and it should come as no surprise to anybody regardless of whether or not this was a rumor for Jungle Fury.

Disney should get credit for keeping the show alive for seven more years. If it weren't for them PR would have ended after NS most likely. They have put a lot of money into PR and have tried to make it work. The problem is they just don't understand the brand and are worried about the violent aspects of it. Disney isn't used to marketing boy brands. But they did care at least to try to make the franchise work.

The MMPR-PRWF episodes can't air anymore. Because of a deal Saban Entertianment made when PR went SAG. Which was retroactive to the early nonunion years and all of Sabans tv shows. Which meant he agreed to pay royalties to the MMPR-WF actors for reruns and dvd releases. Disney didn't know this and and pulled the episodes. Since its not cost effective to pay all those royalty fees. NS-JF doesn't have that problem because its Non Sag. You're right about them slowly phasing PR out though.

I wish 4kids bought power rangers. Sure they ruined a lot of shows, but at least they're doing well with Kamen Rider.

Kamen Rider Dragon Knight was produced by Adness. And was already filmed by the time 4kids picked them up. So 4kids isn't really responsible for how well Dragon Knight was done. Adness can't afford to buy Power Rangers. A big company like Warner Brothers would have to do it. But I don't think thats likely.

rmssw

03-03-2009, 11:38 PM

Chriz

03-03-2009, 11:58 PM

I've said before I'll say again I'm for animated power rangers if they do it well. After all in animated power rangers you could have the first 6 back together again for a special episode (it would be like extreme ghostbusters / real ghostbusters team up) could be really cool.

Green Elephant

03-04-2009, 01:06 AM

How much did Disney buy PR for in the first place?

rmssw

03-04-2009, 01:38 AM

How much did Disney buy PR for in the first place?

Disney never specifically bought Power Rangers. Disney wanted to purchase FOX Kids and in doing that, they acquired Saban and all of its shows. At that time, Saban was already deep into the production of Wild Force, so Disney went ahead and finished it. They intended to cancel the show after that season, but it was saved when the idea was proposed to move production to New Zealand and save a bunch of money.

2580

03-04-2009, 02:17 AM

Power Rangers won't be gone forever. It will come back in some form. Its too successful a brand to go to be gone forever. Toei and Bandai will certianly pressure Disney to do something with the franchise. Since they make a lot of money of it. Toei makes more money off of Power Rangers then they do Super Sentai.

Toei gets money from Power Rangers through royalty fees (which generally aren't very impressive) and a small slice of what Bandai takes in from its American branch, hardly enough to make them interested in saving the show, especially since the show's ratings and toy sales have been waning. Somebody noted earlier that Toei seems to be on a mission to make Super Sentai unadaptable to American audiences, and I certainly noticed that as far back as Hurricanger with those stupid Karakuri Balls and Go-Onger has presented the toughest challenge yet: mecha with cartoonish faces and mouths that move as they talk. Considering that Bandai America's toy sales have been dropping ever since Disney took over, I doubt that they have an interest in saving the show; they would probably be more interested in putting more money into their other brands and investing in new ones.

The problem is they just don't understand the brand and are worried about the violent aspects of it.

Did you know that Disney produced Starship Troopers, perhaps one of the most violent films ever made, through Touchstone Pictures, the production company that Disney created solely for the purpose of making films for adults without doing it under the Disney brand? It's true. Considering this and the fact that Disney produced a cartoon that used non-cartoon violence like Gargoyles, I'd say that Disney has had no excuse to treat Power Rangers better than it has.

furyfatal10

03-04-2009, 02:31 AM

Seems true this time...
All good things comes to an end...
Even it's just a rumor, it's hard to imagine what Samurai Rangers would be in next year's PR.

powerofair

03-04-2009, 02:42 AM

[/QUOTE]Did you know that Disney produced Starship Troopers, perhaps one of the most violent films ever made, through Touchstone Pictures, the production company that Disney created solely for the purpose of making films for adults without doing it under the Disney brand? It's true. Considering this and the fact that Disney produced a cartoon that used non-cartoon violence like Gargoyles, I'd say that Disney has had no excuse to treat Power Rangers better than it has.[/QUOTE]

Well it would be a big switch for Disney to start producing it as a Pirites of Carr. movie or ST.
Now to my view:
as the classic song goes, we need a Hero.
thats the only way i see Power Rangers making it. Maybe one more season after RPM but were lucky to get RPM. Disney has never wanted Power Rangers. I say Disney puts up Production rights for bid. Another company produce the show while Disney would Distribute it. I dont know, im just thinking of something i know some shows have done this plan before. PR could be filmed and produced by (ex Media 8 entertainment) and just runs plot and scripts by Disney. My point is im highly agianst this animation move. I like Spiderman TAS and Xmen, Ironman etc but really now, Power Rangers is about martial arts (not as much these days) and the awesome suits, weopons, the actors good or bad, the look the feel, the zord seq, and the morphing sequence. Plus i have a bad feeling the would start to stop using Senati ideas for suits and etc and make their own bad show. Lets just hope none of this will happen and RPM will be awesome, and hopefully a Shinkenjer adaption. The past three episodes of Shinkenjer have been good.

We need a hero.

powerofair

03-04-2009, 02:44 AM

Seems true this time...
All good things comes to an end...
Even it's just a rumor, it's hard to imagine what Samurai Rangers would be in next year's PR.

Not really, because ive already written a plot and entire series layout for Power Rangers shinkenjer adaption

Super Jeff

03-04-2009, 02:45 AM

I think the only way to truley end the series is have a massive crossover. That is the only way to truly end the series.

PRangerX

03-04-2009, 02:48 AM

Toei gets money from Power Rangers through royalty fees (which generally aren't very impressive) and a small slice of what Bandai takes in from its American branch, hardly enough to make them interested in saving the show, especially since the show's ratings and toy sales have been waning. Somebody noted earlier that Toei seems to be on a mission to make Super Sentai unadaptable to American audiences, and I certainly noticed that as far back as Hurricanger with those stupid Karakuri Balls and Go-Onger has presented the toughest challenge yet: mecha with cartoonish faces and mouths that move as they talk. Considering that Bandai America's toy sales have been dropping ever since Disney took over, I doubt that they have an interest in saving the show; they would probably be more interested in putting more money into their other brands and investing in new ones.

Did you know that Disney produced Starship Troopers, perhaps one of the most violent films ever made, through Touchstone Pictures, the production company that Disney created solely for the purpose of making films for adults without doing it under the Disney brand? It's true. Considering this and the fact that Disney produced a cartoon that used non-cartoon violence like Gargoyles, I'd say that Disney has had no excuse to treat Power Rangers better than it has.

I don't know where you heard that. Toei makes a ton of money off PR. Disney pays them a lot of money for the rights. They make more money off of PR then they do off of Sentai. And its their only means of exporting the show to the West. Trust me Toei wants Power Rangers to continue. Thats why they weren't too happy about the the possibility if it going animated last year. Their is less money in it for them.

The Power Rangers toyline is is big of a brand for Bandai not to want to revive. They will probably continue to sell PR figures even after the show ends. But I don't doubt they won't want Disney to do something with the franchise so they can sell more toys. Its not like Bandai has to shoulder as much of the Production Costs as Disney.

There is almost no chance that Power Rangers doesn't come back in some other form. Thats just how holywood works. Instead of spending time to build new brands they go back to existing brands. MMPR Nostalgia is going to set in. And with time the demand for Power Rangers will go higher. It will just take someone in charge of the franchise that knows what they are doing.

Starship Troopers isn't a kids show. And is part of miramax , which is a whole other company under Disney. Gargoyles is animation , which more of Disney's cup of tea. Power Rangers is a hard thing to understand for outsiders. But Disney has given the franchise seven years and a lot of money. So they weren't trying to kill the show.

Green Elephant

03-04-2009, 03:14 AM

2580

03-04-2009, 03:21 AM

Well it would be a big switch for Disney to start producing it as a Pirites of Carr. movie or ST.

Ummm... I never suggested that Disney should've produced Power Rangers as though it was a film for adults, I just used Starship Troopers and Gargoyles as examples of Disney flirting with violence in their productions. Hell, if you watch Hercules, the main character is actually shown slicing off the heads of the hydra monster and he's later seen being beaten up by a giant after Hades took away his strength, making him as helpless as any normal person. Mulan featured warfare, though not in grisly detail. Bambi and the Lion King feature the violent deaths of parents. Sleeping Beauty shows a dragon being slain by a sword being driven into its heart. Gaston plunges a dagger into the beast's side in Beauty and the Beast. Aladdin fights a giant cobra in his first film, is nearly beheaded in The Return of Jafar, and fights a muscle bound man wielding metal claws in The King of Thieves. My point was that if Disney could even touch things as violent as Gargoyles and Starship Troopers especially, then Disney couldn't have used violence as a reason to treat the Power Rangers brand as poorly as it has.

I don't know where you heard that. Toei makes a ton of money off PR. Disney pays them a lot of money for the rights. They make more money off of PR then they do off of Sentai. And its their only means of exporting the show to the West. Trust me Toei wants Power Rangers to continue. Thats why they weren't too happy about the the possibility if it going animated last year. Their is less money in it for them.

Perhaps you could enlighten me as to where you got your information. I was speaking from what I felt was a basic understanding of how the business relationships work. When I said that royalties generally aren't impressive, it's because that's what I've always heard about royalties, especially when they come from shows that don't have huge followings like Power Rangers. As I understand it, most of the money made from television shows is made from sponsors that pay to have their advertisements put on television in the form of commercials. In the case of a TV show that puts out toys, their primary sponsor is usually the toy company. In fact, there's usually a mention of Bandai before each episode of Super Sentai.

Starship Troopers isn't a kids show. And is part of miramax , which is a whole other company under Disney. Gargoyles is animation , which more of Disney's cup of tea. Power Rangers is a hard thing to understand for outsiders. But Disney has given the franchise seven years and a lot of money. So they weren't trying to kill the show.

I know that Starship Troopers isn't a kids' show and that's really not the point. My point was that if Disney could allow a production company that it owns to produce a film as violent as Starship Troopers, then they shouldn't be able to use violence as a reason to treat the Power Rangers brand so poorly. Whether or not Disney directly produced Starship Troopers is irrelevant. Miramax had absolutely nothing to do with the production of any of the Starship Troopers films, so I don't know where you got that from. Let's try another example of a big name company trying to do business under a different name like Coca Cola creating the Fanta Orange brand for the purpose of sidestepping a trade ban that the Allies placed on Nazi Germany. Do you look at Coca Cola favorably or do you recoil in disgust as I did when I first heard about it? Whether you're talking about Touchstone Pictures or Fanta Orange, it doesn't matter if the mother company didn't directly produce the product, it matters if the mother company approved production of the product or just looked the other way as the product was produced. As for Gargoyles being animation and therefore being Disney's cup of tea, I think that that's a dumb argument to use. Disney produces lots of live action shows like Sonny With a Chance, Hannah Montana, The Suite Life On Deck, Wizards of Waverly Place, and The Suite Life of Zack and Cody.

PRangerX

03-04-2009, 03:34 AM

PRangerX

03-04-2009, 03:39 AM

Most of the Disney movies you listed ( 2680) are Disney's family films. Disney is very good at that kind of stuff. Its their niche. A lot of those films also appeals to grils, which is where Disney excels with their marketing.

I'm not saying Disney doesn't have a lot to learn. And yes they can treat the Power Rangers brand better. They just don't fully understand it. But on the other side of the coin, they kept the show going for seven years. Which shows that they want to understand it.

GoldPhoenixRanger

03-04-2009, 04:26 AM

If Disney is killing Power Rangers because it's too expensive to produce, then a teamup is a lot to hope for.

I don't see what's so expensive about the production of a show that is recieved already half-finished (I made this point when we complained about episode counts).

Well, I would think the majority of money goes to salaries. 5-7 rangers per season, plus villains and mentors which is 3 or 4 more, plus Koichi's stunt team of probably at least 15 or 20 guys, not to mention the writing and editing staff, hair, make-up, costumes have to be shipped from Japan, plus wardrobe for non morphed scenes. Plus cameramen and backstage staff, as well as special effects people.

Not to mention the prices for all the sets, explosions, special effects, and everything else. Television shows aren't cheap to produce anywhere anymore, although I hear Canada is the new New Zealand in terms of where people are going for cheap television production.

-GPR

2580

03-04-2009, 04:38 AM

Most of the Disney movies you listed ( 2680) are Disney's family films. Disney is very good at that kind of stuff. Its their niche. A lot of those films also appeals to grils, which is where Disney excels with their marketing.

How does that make a difference? A man being brutally battered by a giant much stronger than himself or a beast being stabbed in the side with a dagger is violent whether you call it a family film or an action film. I think maybe we're talking about two different things. I'm talking about Disney moving production of Power Rangers to New Zealand, doing whatever it can to reduce production costs, neglecting to release entire seasons of the show on DVD, and doing a piss-poor job of promoting it. You and the other guy seem to be talking about the level of violence that Disney will allow on the show and the quality of the action sequences. I was never suggesting that Disney should make Power Rangers more violent or that it wasn't doing a good job of filming the action sequences, I was trying to say that violence shouldn't be a reason for Disney to find ways to reduce the amount of money that it spends on Power Rangers, to neglect releasing entire seasons of the show on DVD, and to do an awful job of promoting the show. My screen name is 2580 by the way, not 2680.

Xerox

03-04-2009, 03:27 PM

Multiple reliable sources begin spreading the word that they are learning that Disney has decided that Power Rangers RPM will indeed be the final live action season of Power Rangers. Theses sources aren't just people saying "it's the last season" just to get people worried for no reason. They actually do know people close to the production team and are trustworthy individuals.
Really? Is he serious? Any of you panicking about the end of PR based on that page alone just shows that you all worry too much. I'm not saying that this is definitely not the last season of Power Rangers, but what I'm saying is this page you all are citing has no references and no basis in fact. If anything, it sounds like a middle schooler trying to back up his lies. Something along the lines of: "My brother's friend's cousin knows The President. And he's not one of those people who lies about that stuff, he's trustworthy." Until I see actual proof, I'm hoping to see Shinkenger adapted into English. Do not worry people, until the real evidence is presented.
(Actually, I don't want to see Shinkenger, the suits look awful. I hardly wanna see RPM because of the suits and zords, but I will surely give it a shot.)

Green Elephant

03-04-2009, 11:12 PM

Well, I would think the majority of money goes to salaries. 5-7 rangers per season, plus villains and mentors which is 3 or 4 more, plus Koichi's stunt team of probably at least 15 or 20 guys, not to mention the writing and editing staff, hair, make-up, costumes have to be shipped from Japan, plus wardrobe for non morphed scenes. Plus cameramen and backstage staff, as well as special effects people.

Not to mention the prices for all the sets, explosions, special effects, and everything else. Television shows aren't cheap to produce anywhere anymore, although I hear Canada is the new New Zealand in terms of where people are going for cheap television production.

-GPR

Most of the costumes are already made, half the cast is only voice actors, none of the wardrobe really has any guidelines besides the monochromatic thing, most of the SFX are either done already or are (new stock footage).

At least Canada hires American actors.

rageredranger

03-07-2009, 12:03 AM

Well i don't know if its ending or not but i ve seen many bad signs went to my local walmart today to try and by some of the toys they weren't on the shelves when i asked them why he said they are no longer going to carry them for rpm they aren't selling well he also said alot of other locations wont be carrying them any more.

DaiRed

03-07-2009, 12:19 AM

rageredranger

03-07-2009, 12:36 AM

Yeah i think is due to the channel change alot of people didnt know specially kids the main market for the toys there was no show when they were used to seeing it so they most likely assumed there wasn't one i mean there's been 0 commercials announcing the change.

RangerDCMA

03-07-2009, 01:07 AM

I dunno why Disney doesn't do with PR what Russel T Davies is doing with Doctor Who and just give it a year and a bit off air, maybe with a special or two just for the holidays or something.

I'm sure if PR did come back it's ratings would be huge after so long of not having it

Plus it'd give chance to save some budget for a while

The Master

03-07-2009, 01:10 AM

DarkWish

03-07-2009, 01:13 AM

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10560372

Now do you guys believe me and the many others who have been saying Power Rangers is over?

GekiCosmic

03-07-2009, 01:33 AM

I remain hopeful that it will come back in the future. Power Rangers is a money-maker, so it can never be gone for too long.

May the Power live on within each and every one of us.

TimeForceBlue

03-07-2009, 01:44 AM

Let's hope Power Rangers never die.

2580

03-07-2009, 04:00 AM

To rageredranger: I haven't looked for RPM toys at Walmart, but just the other day when I was killing time browsing at Toys "R" Us while my mom was looking for receiving blankets in Babies "R" Us, I saw at least some of them. They seemed to have the basic action figures for the Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, and Black Rangers as well as the High Octane Megazord and Rev Morpher. I was pretty impressed by the quality of the Yellow Ranger action figure because the mold looked very feminine, the toy seemed to have a lot of articulation, and there were some nice clean lines in the paint job. The High Octane Megazord toy didn't seem very impressive, which is a shame considering that an ugly Megazord like that could've used all the help it could get in terms of toy quality. As I looked at the box, I was struck by how the word "Deluxe" was nowhere to be found in the name of the toy. I did a quick check with the toy guide at Power Rangers Central, and it seems that the Ninja Storm toyline was the first PR toyline to drop "Deluxe" from the Megazord names, which is interesting since Ninja Storm was the first season of PR that Disney produced. I miss the days when Bandai America produced mostly just the basics: Rangers, villains, action figures, arsenal, Zords, and the occasional vehicles that actually appeared in the original Japanese source material. There were some gimmicky toys like the Auto-Morphin Rangers, but they actually had appeal and they were generally a minority in the toylines. These days gimmicky toys that have little appeal actually form the majority of each PR toyline and they usually wind up staying on store shelves until they have to be taken down when the new line is released. Sorry about the rant, but it really steams me that Bandai America used to do things so right and then something went horribly wrong somewhere along the way.

To RJ: I would agree that our bad economy is probably a significant factor in the quality of Bandai America's toys, but I think the biggest factor of all is the one that I just talked about. If Bandai America would just focus on the basics, I believe that its PR toys could be made at a much higher quality than they are now. I think they've done a great job with the Super Legends toys, but I think that's only because they've been made for the diehard adult fans that expect much better than what the normal toy lines have to offer. Still, I noticed very visible seams down the crotches of the latest Super Legends action figures, so now Bandai America is getting sloppy with the Super Legends line as well. I like the Retrofire Mighty Morphin' Megazord, though. :)