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TokuFan
02-14-2009, 09:34 PM
We've had overrated so let's have underrated. I would elaborate but...I don't see how I can.

OK,I'll start. Personally I think Trent. People don't like him because he wasn't evil for long enough. But then again,he wasn't very good at evil acting anyway. He was better off playing a good character. If you look at him in that
episode when Ethan and Cassidy have a picnic,he acts pretty cool there,dancing and doing cheers. I hate to talk about here but I think History was a bit pathetic with just the three.I mean SPD has this great plethora of rangers[even if only 3 of them went] and Dino Thunder's there with 3! I don't think it was because Jeffrey Parrazo couldn't do it,I think it was just because Bruce wanted it that way. In Mystic Force being as they didn't team up with SPD they could have just brought him back. Maybe make him Solaris Knight.

Question
02-14-2009, 09:43 PM
Carter gets more hate than 95% of anyone else on the show (I'm pretty sure only Justin and Cole are hated more, in general), and I've always thought it to be unwarranted. Carter was all sorts of badass.

He (almost) went to Hell to save the world! I've never seen Tommy do that! Unless you count that one Halloween episode, which I do not as it ruins my point.

Jiemusu
02-14-2009, 10:17 PM
Carter gets more hate than 95% of anyone else on the show (I'm pretty sure only Justin and Cole are hated more, in general), and I've always thought it to be unwarranted. Carter was all sorts of badass.

He (almost) went to Hell to save the world! I've never seen Tommy do that! Unless you count that one Halloween episode, which I do not as it ruins my point.

Everything that comes out your mouth is golden. I do, completely agree, with this.

To add to it. Lightspeed is one of the most disliked reasons. This isn't me giving opinions. It seems Wildforce, Turbo and Lightspeed are three seasons that are somewhat drastically far from the "mainstream", obscure seasons that only a minority of fans appreciate. Possibly because it was the first season to be "totally different".

On that notion, people tend to dismiss content within these three (underrated in themselves) seasons. Thus, people tend to just dismiss what happens in Lightspeed Rescue simply because they don't like the season.

Carter aimed to go to freekin hell!

I mean seriously, if it wasn't for Andros saving the universe, or Wes saving time, I would easily class Carter as the greatest Red Ranger.

Because Lightspeed is a dismissed season, Carter does NOT get the appreciation he deserves.



Anyway my personal inputs go to Rocky and Taylor.

Rocky was given alot of stick for having replaced Jason, when none of the other replacements got as much stick for replacing who they replaced. Rocky was judged on who he replaced rather than his own personality, and others were not. He was given alot of responsibility, had an incredibly confident and individual personality and wasn't appreciated for it. He was the only male Ranger in Zeo who wasn't given returns or considered legendary. He was treated like the fifth wheel, and somewhat was forced to put up with it otherwise would be labelled as being a quitter or not being a team fighter. He wasn't treated as a proper asset, just a nameless troop, who (when out of action) was replaced with the dreaded mushroom head of immaturity that, in an ironic twist, gave fans the blues.

Taylor for very much the same reasons as Carter. She was in one of the most hated seasons, thus dismissed almost instantly. Forced to fight in a team full of hopeless dipsticks, and somewhat judged on the same level as the rest of them. She was capable of so much more, and she isn't being appreciated for... well her.

grayguardianranger
02-15-2009, 02:54 AM
I don't know about Rocky. I mean, he did get flack for replacing somebody who set a bar on what that kind of ranger should be. But It appeared to me in an earlier thread that Rocky wasn't as much disliked as people thought.

My vote goes to Mack Hartford, because maybe OO wasn't all that great of a season. However, anyone who goes to a fight looking like this

http://www.rangertalk.com/picture.php?albumid=5&pictureid=774

deserves alot of credit! XD

Super Jeff
02-15-2009, 05:44 AM
Here are some on my list

Carter
He is probably one the greatest underappreciated red rangers. I know he was criticized in Forever Red for not fighting with his skills but firing with his gun. I think he was better fit with a firearm because he wasn't brought up with martial arts. he was brought up with a fire arm he was a trained fire fighter. I think he also probably uses his mind a little bit more then other red rangers. Out of all the red rangers he seems to be more dedicated then others. He helped recruit the time force rangers to help stop the demon from rising and Cole for forever red.

Rocky
I think I don't really need to say anything because others above me has pretty much dsaid for what I was going to say.

Bridge
WHile many people like him others don't. I thought he was wise in his own weird way. Also a technical genious. He can also be up their in ranks of Tommy for suit changes. As he started off as green, then promoted to blue then also became a red ranger. I think his quirkiness added diversity to the SPD team as he was quirky ranger, Sky was the strict ranger, Z was the level headed ranger, Jack was headstrong, Syd was the ranger with a good heart.

TJ
Despite his showings of having one of the worst red rangers showing in red ranger history, I think he was still a good red ranger. He was the one that made the hard choices of destroying the turbo zords to help stop a monster. WHile it wasn't successful he manged to slow down the monster untill he came up with another strategy to destroy it. He can be very tactical when he wants to be as he was the one who came up with the idea to blend the rangers as blue to help take down Pchyo Blue. Also when Andros was gone or unfit to lead at the time TJ would step up to help lead the team to victory.

Tori
I don't know why but I never really hear anyone talk about her. I think she was a fine ranger. She also seemed to be the most level headed of the ninja storm rangers. Also she is the only Ninja ranger to have regained her powers because of sentinal Knight.

Mac
I liked him as he seemed to have the most character development in Overdrive. You feel sorry for the guy because he didn't know if he was doing things on his own or they way he was programmed. He also almost made a big sacrifice to the length of Kendrix if sential knight didn't save him.

TokuFan
02-15-2009, 10:45 AM
I don't know about Rocky. I mean, he did get flack for replacing somebody who set a bar on what that kind of ranger should be. But It appeared to me in an earlier thread that Rocky wasn't as much disliked as people thought.

My vote goes to Mack Hartford, because maybe OO wasn't all that great of a season. However, anyone who goes to a fight looking like this

http://www.rangertalk.com/picture.php?albumid=5&pictureid=774

deserves alot of credit! XD

Nah. Satoru's DaiBouken would eat his Sentinel Knight for lunch.

grayguardianranger
02-15-2009, 01:08 PM
oh' yeah, he'll lose in that battle. doesn't stop him from being underrated.

Razor
02-15-2009, 02:08 PM
There are a few, but I'll start with one and come edit in the rest later. It's early and I can't think of a bunch right now.

1. Zhane: He got so little airtime in my opinion (suit-wise), especially in the beginning. He had that whole..what was it 2 minute limit on his powers?

I never see anyone talk about him on RT. If it wasn't for Zhane, Andros would've probably died in that attack that left Zhane needing to be cyrogenically frozen. Zhane intercepted an attack meant for Andros. If he hadn't, I think Andros would've died. If Andros had died, who would've shattered Zordon's tube? If Zordon's tube had not been shattered, the evil we saw, not only would've continued, but they probably would've enslaved everyone.

So yeah, I like Zhane. We had him for like 3 episodes or something and then he was gone for like 5. I wanted to see more Zhane in action.

2. Mike. He was obviously more superior to his little brother and having actually had real military experience, he probably would've made a better Red Ranger. It was he who pulled out the sword, not Leo. Leo didn't receive the sword 'till Mike gave it to him.

GR4L
02-15-2009, 03:18 PM
Underrated in my opinion reads,

Leo from lost Galaxy, Leo was a good red ranger and he rarely even gets mentioned.......ever!!

Trent from Dino Thunder, I agree with the above statements, Trent just gets lost in the shuffle, his character didn't really develop all that well, and I thinks thats the fault of writing not the actor.

Zach from MMPR, yes an MMPR made my underrated list, how can this be.......Adam is all anyone talks about, (Don't get me wrong I'm a Adam fan), but Zach gets little to no credit for being an Awesome Black Ranger, and until Tommy showed up, Zach was basically #2, other than Jason and Tommy, Zach was the only other ranger to use Tommy's shield. I think that all attention goes to Jason and Tommy for the MMPR days, and Zach get lost in the shuffle. I just think that Zach doesn't get the props he deserves at times.

DarkWolf21
02-15-2009, 05:30 PM
I think Cole is pretty underrated. I personally think he was a good ranger. At times, his enthusiasm got pretty annoying, but he was a good leader. I thought his ability to talk to animals was kinda cool...

Razor
02-15-2009, 05:41 PM
Zach was the only other ranger to use Tommy's shield.

Other than Jason? Yeah you're right. Billy never got to wear it.

TokuFan
02-15-2009, 10:04 PM
I think Cole is pretty underrated. I personally think he was a good ranger. At times, his enthusiasm got pretty annoying, but he was a good leader. I thought his ability to talk to animals was kinda cool...

Yeah I mean if you compare him with Jan from Gekiranger Jan's screaming all over the place! I don't hate Jan but he's a lot more annoying than Cole.

UltimateRainbowRanger
02-16-2009, 12:57 AM
Cole, Carter & Justin were pretty underrated, but, the greatest underrated ranger of all time is Rocky DeSantos, period.

PR_4_Life
02-16-2009, 08:20 PM
Rocky, for reasons already discussed.

I personally liked him a lot.

Jiemusu
02-17-2009, 06:47 PM
Zach was the only other ranger to use Tommy's shield.

Zack used the Dragon shield in Oyster's Stew.

Jason used it in Gung Ho, Green Candle, Birds of a Feather and Clean Up Club.

Cole, Carter & Justin were pretty underrated, but, the greatest underrated ranger of all time is Rocky DeSantos, period.

Rocky, for reasons already discussed.

I personally liked him a lot.

This, and this.

Mustang3173
02-18-2009, 12:54 AM
Carter gets more hate than 95% of anyone else on the show (I'm pretty sure only Justin and Cole are hated more, in general), and I've always thought it to be unwarranted. Carter was all sorts of badass.

He (almost) went to Hell to save the world! I've never seen Tommy do that! Unless you count that one Halloween episode, which I do not as it ruins my point.

Your right, I don't know why Carter is hated so much. I would actually like to hear him do voice work or something.

~serpentera~
02-19-2009, 06:16 AM
Rocky de Santos.
above forumers already explained why.

TokuFan
02-19-2009, 11:10 AM
OK OK I think every series has one. Not every series does but there's two in some so it evens out.

Mighty Morphin 1-2-Jason[at least compared to Tommy or Adam]
Mighty Morphin 2-3-Rocky
Zeo-Jason and Rocky
Turbo-The original people for putting up with all of those weirdos that came
Space-Galaxy-I don't know
Lightspeed-Carter
Time Force-Wes and Lucas
Wild Force-Cole
Ninja Storm-Cam[Cam's awesome,I mean he's a samurai]
Dino Thunder-Trent
SPD-Jack[not many people would stand up to Doggie]
Mystic Force-Leanbow[I know he's an old man but he is quite cool,especially compared to Daggeron]
Overdrive-I suppose Mack but also Will and Rose,no-one else is any good
Jungle Fury-Casey[purely because of the girlfriend thing]

Khayotica
02-20-2009, 09:21 PM
Rocky was given alot of stick for having replaced Jason, when none of the other replacements got as much stick for replacing who they replaced. Rocky was judged on who he replaced rather than his own personality, and others were not. He was given alot of responsibility, had an incredibly confident and individual personality and wasn't appreciated for it. He was the only male Ranger in Zeo who wasn't given ret urns or considered legendary. He was treated like the fifth wheel, and somewhat was forced to put up with it otherwise would be labelled as being a quitter or not being a team fighter. He wasn't treated as a proper asset, just a nameless troop, who (when out of action) was replaced with the dreaded mushroom head of immaturity that, in an ironic twist, gave fans the blues.

This isn't always the case. Yeah, I was mad that Jason got replaced, but that's not why I don't like Rocky. I don't like Rocky because I just see him as completely unmemorable. Steve himself has even said that he didn't work very hard on the Rocky character, and at least to me, it shows. Honestly, if Adam had been Jason's replacement, or some of the later characters like Andros or TJ (hate Turbo, but didn't mind TJ himself), I wouldn't have had a problem. Rocky was just...eh

Urataros
02-20-2009, 09:39 PM
Rocky-See above
Justin-See above
Carter-I agree with Question, Carter basicly went to hell and to save the world, yet he doesn't get respect.
Cole-I don't know why anyone hates him, he seemed unique in the fact that he was the first ranger from earth's jungles.
Dominic-Same with above, noone's cutting him some slack.

Tifaret
02-21-2009, 02:46 AM
I'm just gonna say that I think Aisha was underrated along with Rocky, maybe more. At least Rocky gets some mention because he was Jason's replacement and he was in Zeo. Poor Aisha never really gets any light. Like Rocky being overshadowed by Jason, Aisha is always over shadowed by Trini.

Look at it this way. In Power Rangers the Movie, the rangers would have died had it not been for her. When Ivan had the megazord in his grasps, she was the one to press the giant red button and have the megazord knee Ivan in the crotch, allowing them to escape and Ivan Ooze to be destroyed. What other ranger has ever used a megazord to knee a villain in the crotch? The girl gets my props and that's why she personally my favorite yellow ranger and I really wish she could have stuck around for Zeo instead of being shipped to Africa. >_>

grayguardianranger
02-21-2009, 03:19 AM
I'm just gonna say that I think Aisha was underrated along with Rocky, maybe more. At least Rocky gets some mention because he was Jason's replacement and he was in Zeo. Poor Aisha never really gets any light. Like Rocky being overshadowed by Jason, Aisha is always over shadowed by Trini.

Look at it this way. In Power Rangers the Movie, the rangers would have died had it not been for her. When Ivan had the megazord in his grasps, she was the one to press the giant red button and have the megazord knee Ivan in the crotch, allowing them to escape and Ivan Ooze to be destroyed. What other ranger has ever used a megazord to knee a villain in the crotch? The girl gets my props and that's why she personally my favorite yellow ranger and I really wish she could have stuck around for Zeo instead of being shipped to Africa. >_>

I give you 100 points. EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT!!!!!!!

Razor
02-21-2009, 06:03 AM
I'm just gonna say that I think Aisha was underrated along with Rocky, maybe more. At least Rocky gets some mention because he was Jason's replacement and he was in Zeo. Poor Aisha never really gets any light. Like Rocky being overshadowed by Jason, Aisha is always over shadowed by Trini.

Look at it this way. In Power Rangers the Movie, the rangers would have died had it not been for her. When Ivan had the megazord in his grasps, she was the one to press the giant red button and have the megazord knee Ivan in the crotch, allowing them to escape and Ivan Ooze to be destroyed. What other ranger has ever used a megazord to knee a villain in the crotch? The girl gets my props and that's why she personally my favorite yellow ranger and I really wish she could have stuck around for Zeo instead of being shipped to Africa. >_>

That's exactly one one of the reasons I made her leader of my veteran ranger team in my fanfiction story, Dark Legacy.

Jiemusu
02-21-2009, 09:13 AM
I'm just gonna say that I think Aisha was underrated along with Rocky, maybe more. At least Rocky gets some mention because he was Jason's replacement and he was in Zeo. Poor Aisha never really gets any light. Like Rocky being overshadowed by Jason, Aisha is always over shadowed by Trini.

Look at it this way. In Power Rangers the Movie, the rangers would have died had it not been for her. When Ivan had the megazord in his grasps, she was the one to press the giant red button and have the megazord knee Ivan in the crotch, allowing them to escape and Ivan Ooze to be destroyed. What other ranger has ever used a megazord to knee a villain in the crotch? The girl gets my props and that's why she personally my favorite yellow ranger and I really wish she could have stuck around for Zeo instead of being shipped to Africa. >_>

Don't forget Rita's Pita, Aisha pretty much saved the entire day single handedly... again.

She was the most innovative out of all 6, by far.

Zedd Waves too, who saved the day... Aisha, and she wasn't even a Ranger at that point.

Green Elephant
02-21-2009, 01:07 PM
I bring her back at the end of my fanfic as Zeo Yellow (Tanya goes to Turbo, Ashley remains as Space).

Ernde38
02-21-2009, 10:28 PM
Aisha saved the day in "The Hatemaster" two-parter.

Billy is underrated. He helped the team out in SO many ways with his inventions! He even STEPPED DOWN as a ranger, when he didn't have too!

Question
02-21-2009, 10:29 PM
Billy's not underrated. Everyone and their mother loves him.

You want an underrated genius Blue Ranger? Justin.

Jiemusu
02-22-2009, 12:09 AM
Billy gets kudos for finishing off a monster alone using his shogunzord.

Mustang3173
02-22-2009, 12:49 AM
You want an underrated genius Blue Ranger? Justin.

If Justin were only a few years older, we probably would've liked him more.

Jiemusu
02-22-2009, 01:38 AM
Justin would be liked more if he actually acted like a genius.

We get told he is apparently a child genius, then nothing more happens, and he just acts like a normal kid. That's the thing, and the major difference between Billy and Justin.

Billy actually acted on his stated talent.

Justin didn't, in fact he went the opposite way.

That's why I don't really consider Justin underrated. There was little in his actions to count as underrrated.

Mustang3173
02-22-2009, 02:38 AM
Well you can't really compare Justin to Billy in terms of intelligence. Justin is considered a genius for his age. Billy is older and has thus spent more time to study and become smarter.

Jiemusu
02-22-2009, 02:43 AM
It's not that.

It's the fact that Justin is stated to be such a genius that promoting him up several grades seems natural, yet he doesn't act upon this genius at all. It doesn't make sense. If he's a boy genius, he would have done something 'genius' throughout, otherwise the character doesn't work, and it's a poor character. Why boost him up THAT many grades if he was just going to be a passive kid?

And most of all, it doesn't make Justin that underrated because, well, there is little of Justin's actions to really underrate.

And yes Justin isn't just considered smart for his age, he's considered a genius, possibly more so than the rest of the Turbo cast.

It just, contradicts itself. =/

Mustang3173
02-22-2009, 02:45 AM
Alright you convinced me.
He's the worlds dumbest genius.

Jiemusu
02-22-2009, 02:48 AM
Can't tell if that's sarcasm (internet) but I'm presuming you really are agreeing with me.

But yeah, one minute Justin is one thing, then he's something else, and both those Justins oppose each other.

Being the world's dumbest genius would signify that there isn't really anything special about him because it balances out, and he'll at best be slightly witty and fast thinking to a regular level.

But exaggerating something one minute and not acting on it... it's just confusing, and doesn't work. At least in my view.

It just happens to have happened to Justin, I mean if it was anyone else then I would say the same thing.

Other "geniuses" act upon their genius, thus prove it.

Mustang3173
02-22-2009, 02:57 AM
Can't tell if that's sarcasm (internet) but I'm presuming you really are agreeing with me.

But yeah, one minute Justin is one thing, then he's something else, and both those Justins oppose each other.

Being the world's dumbest genius would signify that there isn't really anything special about him because it balances out, and he'll at best be slightly witty and fast thinking to a regular level.

But exaggerating something one minute and not acting on it... it's just confusing, and doesn't work. At least in my view.

It just happens to have happened to Justin, I mean if it was anyone else then I would say the same thing.

Other "geniuses" act upon their genius, thus prove it.

btw I'm not being sarcastic :)
Maybe Justin has multiple personality disorder :D

Super Jeff
02-22-2009, 03:00 AM
I say Bridge. I mean I know he has his group of fans but I think people don't talk about him as much. He has changed ranger designations almost as much as tommy. He was Intelligent in his own right as he was a technical genious. I also thought he brought more sence of humor to the group.

Heh Buttery

grayguardianranger
02-22-2009, 03:02 AM
I'll agree to that. "Buttery!" I loved that part. he tries to stop his fingers.

Jiemusu
02-22-2009, 03:11 AM
@mustang3173: Ah that's fine then. :D Lol at the disorder.

But actually, Bridge is an awesome example of what I'm talking about, the very opposite of Justin was, and the exact incarnation of what Justin should have been.

Justin gets all this hype to be a super genius, and does basically jack all nothing throughout Turbo to back this up in the slightest. Seems it was a way just to boost him to high school to be closer to the 2nd half of the team then leave him there. Nothing more was said. Aisha is smarter than he is, why? She proved it.

Bridge is a character that got no hype for being a super genius, in fact most of the first impression or character overview was that of a doofus, an idiot, a comic relief, a daft muppet right? What do we get, a borderline genius who single handedly PROVES it on the show through his actions in the line of Ranger duty.

That's the key difference.

Super Jeff
02-22-2009, 03:27 AM
@mustang3173: Ah that's fine then. :D Lol at the disorder.

But actually, Bridge is an awesome example of what I'm talking about, the very opposite of Justin was, and the exact incarnation of what Justin should have been.

Justin gets all this hype to be a super genius, and does basically jack all nothing throughout Turbo to back this up in the slightest. Seems it was a way just to boost him to high school to be closer to the 2nd half of the team then leave him there. Nothing more was said. Aisha is smarter than he is, why? She proved it.

Bridge is a character that got no hype for being a super genius, in fact most of the first impression or character overview was that of a doofus, an idiot, a comic relief, a daft muppet right? What do we get, a borderline genius who single handedly PROVES it on the show through his actions in the line of Ranger duty.

That's the key difference.

I never tried to compare Bridge to Justin but ohwell

Heh Buttery

I also like Bridge in Once a ranger. The way he and Mac teamed up against flurious was one of the team ups best fights.

Jiemusu
02-22-2009, 03:30 AM
I never tried to compare Bridge to Justin but ohwell

Didn't say you did, but the very mention of Bridge reminded me that of how his character contrasts to Justin, and how Bridge's character worked but Justin's didn't, as in opposites. What Justin should have been.

Super Jeff
02-22-2009, 03:37 AM
Didn't say you did, but the very mention of Bridge reminded me that of how his character contrasts to Justin, and how Bridge's character worked but Justin's didn't, as in opposites. What Justin should have been.

Well happy to help.....I think?


Chip is also another ranger I think is also underrated. He was a comicbook geek that became a ranger. He was the only one of the mystic rangers that really was estatic to be a ranger and go on magical quests. Heck he saved Vida from being a vampire and He risked his life for Nick so he could get his battelizer armour.

Jiemusu
02-22-2009, 03:42 AM
Well happy to help.....I think?

You should be lol.

grayguardianranger
02-22-2009, 03:53 AM
I agree with Super Jeff. Chip is really underated, when he messed up with the soul spector, He took it upon his self to seek Daggeron's aid. He took loosing the guy and his daughter to that monster really personally.

Mustang3173
02-22-2009, 04:29 AM
I think every ranger team needs someone like Bridge or Chip. Someone who provides a light sense of intellectual/fanboyish humor. I think Justin was maybe a failed early attempt at that kind of character. It was again attempted during Lightspeed Rescue in Joel. A cheesy little joke every now and then, while being serious when needed.

TokuFan
02-22-2009, 11:06 AM
I liked it when Joel thought he and Miss Fairweather were having a meal alone and then he saw everyone else there!

grayguardianranger
02-22-2009, 01:45 PM
Do you think Ziggy could be this year's Chip/Bridge?

Green Elephant
02-22-2009, 02:14 PM
That was the role his counterpart Hanto played, so I would say yes.

twins1729
02-23-2009, 06:11 PM
I'm trying to think of my favorite Rangers who didn't really get enough credit. IMHO. I won't say why though, I don't have the time! lol

Hunter, Trent, Trip, Rocky, and Carlos.

Razor
02-23-2009, 06:23 PM
MMPR Season 1: Billy
Season 2-Zeo: Billy and Rocky
Turbo: Phantom Ranger
PRIS: Carlos
PRLG: Mike, maybe Kai too
LR: I'll have an answer for this after I watch every ep of Lightspeed like I've been doing for LG.
TF: Trip
WF: Danny (he'd have been better if the guy playing him didn't suck)
NS: Dustin
DT: Trent
SPD: Bridge
MF: Chip and Madison (felt they coulda done more with her)
OO: Rose (I never felt like she was utilizd to her full potential. She was basically a walking encyclopedia)
JF: Theo

TokuFan
02-23-2009, 10:08 PM
Madison is basically just a nicer version of Urara so they couldn't do much with her. And anyway,all Urara did was look at crystal balls all day. At least Madison did something productive.Rose I agree with. Not Theo,because Theo got Lily in the end.

Casey is the underrated ranger in Jungle Fury. Not just because of the girlfriend thing,but also because of the thing with the master stripes. I'm still annoyed he didn't give that kid his money back though.

Razor
02-24-2009, 05:09 AM
I'm still annoyed he didn't give that kid his money back though.

lol :D I noticed that too.

Super Jeff
02-24-2009, 05:18 AM
I think Sam is one of the most uunder rated rangers. I admit I am probably one of the few fans that didn't mind the glowing ball. I just wish he had some more episodes focused on him. After his first appearence though he was never seen that much.

Razor
02-24-2009, 05:33 AM
I heard the whole glowing ball thing was a mistake that was made. I too liked Sam and I felt jipped for not getting to see his morphing sequence. It's not fair. Tetsu (Sam's japanese counterpart) got a morphing sequence. I saw it on youtube. It was pretty cool.

Green Elephant
02-24-2009, 02:12 PM
They could have developed his character better, unquestionably.

TokuFan
02-24-2009, 07:56 PM
If they ever do a Kamen Rider Decade-type series,I want to see Sam. Have him in episode one in the future chasing someone and then the guy goes through the portal and then as a cliffhanger he arrives from the future on his bike,falls off and demorphs.

grayguardianranger
02-25-2009, 12:14 AM
Limited to a glowing ball or a morphed form for the bulk of his presence, it might have been difficult to develop that character. I mean, not much to go by in facial expressions, and in some cases (as a ball of energy) no gestures.

TokuFan
02-25-2009, 07:04 PM
If I was Bruce,I'd have made him a Shurikenger character so he could be Jason for an episode,and then he could be Jack for an episode. And he could be Boom for an episode!

Super Jeff
02-25-2009, 07:32 PM
also the spirit rangers. I liked them and they were cool but after they first appeared they rarely made appearences after they became good.

Jiemusu
02-25-2009, 08:10 PM
also the spirit rangers. I liked them and they were cool but after they first appeared they rarely made appearences after they became good.

This.

I mean there's the explanation involving the cast and crew strikes concering Jungle Fury's production which held off alot of filming and even shortened the season. But I too felt that the Spirit Rangers should have gotten alot more screen time than they did. If not take a perminant place in the team.

Izout
02-25-2009, 10:47 PM
also the spirit rangers. I liked them and they were cool but after they first appeared they rarely made appearences after they became good.

That doesn't make them underrated.

Super Jeff
02-25-2009, 11:54 PM
Ok not under rated just less screentime.

WildForceRanger1985
02-26-2009, 07:55 PM
I think the whole Wild Force team is underrated!!!

Ernde38
02-26-2009, 08:21 PM
I think the whole Wild Force team is underrated!!!

Annoying, but under-rated...

Mustang3173
02-26-2009, 09:55 PM
They may be a bunch of hippies, but they are an underrated bunch of hippies.

Super Jeff
02-27-2009, 02:16 PM
Alien Rangers also. They helped out more then one occasion but you never hear anything about them.

Ernde38
02-27-2009, 07:51 PM
Alien Rangers also. They helped out more then one occasion but you never hear anything about them.

That's because nobody liked their original storyline that much.

Super Jeff
02-27-2009, 08:22 PM
That's because nobody liked their original storyline that much.

That doesn't mean they wern't helpful

Mustang3173
02-27-2009, 09:07 PM
That doesn't mean they wern't helpful

They were underrated. They only got 20 episodes to develop their characters, and mot of that time was spent on searching for the zeo crystals. With all the unused Kakuranger footage, they could've at least given them a few more episodes. I doubt anyone can name all of them of the top of their heads.

Jiemusu
02-27-2009, 10:49 PM
Without looking. I got Cestro (blue), Aurico (red), Delphine (white), Corceus (black), and Tideus (yellow).

But yeah, they are pretty underrated anyway. Considering they had like 13 episodes mimimum (10 MMAR, 2camero appearances in the PRIS finale, 1 apperance all morphed in the Zeo/Alien teamup). Cestro and Delphine were the only Alien Rangers featured unmorphed for 2 episodes in the Zeo/Alien Ranger teamup. Aurico featured in Forever Red, and Corceus and Tideus didn't feature anywhere seperate apart from unmorphed and morphed for 10 episodes in MMAR, as well as morphed in Zeo/Alien Ranger teamup, and in the PRIS finale, which the other 3 Alien Rangers appeared in anyway.

So Tideus and Corceus specifically are two of the most underrated Rangers.

So personally my list of underrated Rangers would consist of (in no particular order): Tideus, Corceus, Taylor, Rocky and Carter.

Ernde38
02-27-2009, 11:11 PM
They were underrated. They only got 20 episodes to develop their characters, and mot of that time was spent on searching for the zeo crystals. With all the unused Kakuranger footage, they could've at least given them a few more episodes. I doubt anyone can name all of them of the top of their heads.

It was 10 episodes. I can name them without looking it up.
Delphine - White
Corcus - Black
Cestro - Blue
Tideus - Yellow
Aurico - Red

Nobody liked their storyline, but they're underrated, yes...

Razor
02-27-2009, 11:22 PM
I have to disagree. I enjoyed the storyline, I enjoyed the characters overall. The only quarrel I had was with the need for unpolluted water. Couldn't that have just used a filter (I know Brita didn't exist back then)?

Jiemusu
02-27-2009, 11:27 PM
It's not that I didn't enjoy MMAR, it's that it wasn't elaborated enough, it was treated mearly as filler, and not material in it's own right. That's my beef with it.

I'm sure that if they got a whole season, we'd be more used to them, and more familar with their characters on a comfortable level of being able to relate to them in discussions... rather than having them as these "aliens" that are just brought in, who have no personality.

Razor
02-27-2009, 11:42 PM
I agree with the "mini-episodes" were filler-thing. I feel like the only reason they made the alien rangers was so that we still got to see the uniforms, since they didn't devote an entire season to using them. Perhaps they didn't wanna screw us out of seeing the costumes the way they did with the Dairanger costumes.

Jiemusu
02-27-2009, 11:51 PM
I agree with the "mini-episodes" were filler-thing. I feel like the only reason they made the alien rangers was so that we still got to see the uniforms, since they didn't devote an entire season to using them. Perhaps they didn't wanna screw us out of seeing the costumes the way they did with the Dairanger costumes.

Yeah, pretty much.

Mustang3173
02-27-2009, 11:51 PM
Without looking. I got Cestro (blue), Aurico (red), Delphine (white), Corceus (black), and Tideus (yellow).

But yeah, they are pretty overrated anyway. Considering they had like 13 episodes mimimum (10 MMAR, 2camero appearances in the PRIS finale, 1 apperance all morphed in the Zeo/Alien teamup). Cestro and Delphine were the only Alien Rangers featured unmorphed for 2 episodes in the Zeo/Alien Ranger teamup. Aurico featured in Forever Red, and Corceus and Tideus didn't feature anywhere seperate apart from unmorphed and morphed for 10 episodes in MMAR, as well as morphed in Zeo/Alien Ranger teamup, and in the PRIS finale, which the other 3 Alien Rangers appeared in anyway.

So Tideus and Corceus specifically are two of the most underrated Rangers.

So personally my list of underrated Rangers would consist of (in no particular order): Tideus, Corceus, Taylor, Rocky and Carter.

I assume you meant underrated.

I guess I underestimated you guys:o, not gonna do that again.

Jiemusu
02-27-2009, 11:57 PM
I assume you meant underrated.

I guess I underestimated you guys:o, not gonna do that again.

Yeah, that was an embarrasing typo actually, it's corrected now.

Super Jeff
03-04-2009, 02:10 AM
You know, you never really hear anything about Tanya either.

Green Elephant
03-04-2009, 03:09 AM
I use her considerably in my fanfic. She's the mentor's wife.

Mustang3173
03-04-2009, 10:52 PM
I hear little mention of Chad

Jiemusu
03-04-2009, 10:58 PM
I hear little mention of Chad

Agreed.

I mean disregarding Carter for a second (since he overrides all the PRLR cast simply for the netherregion daytrip), Chad was the next team member of PRLR that really impressed me.

And why is that? His martial arts skill, he appeared to be the first real decent martial artist (just unmorphed, not counting stunt actors in morphed suits) that impressed me since Passing Of The Torch.

And there is little appreciation of him.

Razor
03-05-2009, 05:39 AM
I felt Billy was very unappreciated and underrated. How many times did he invent something that saved everyone's butts? And how many thank you'd did he get: None. He was basically overlooked. I felt he probably should have been Zeo 5: Red. He was the first back in adult form and was the one who invented the device to turn the others normal too. I would've liked to see Billy be the leader in at least ONE old school season. I always hoped that he had come back as the Phantom Ranger, but I guess that's just my well wishing.

Jiemusu
03-05-2009, 05:06 PM
I felt Billy was very unappreciated and underrated. How many times did he invent something that saved everyone's butts? And how many thank you'd did he get: None. He was basically overlooked. I felt he probably should have been Zeo 5: Red. He was the first back in adult form and was the one who invented the device to turn the others normal too. I would've liked to see Billy be the leader in at least ONE old school season. I always hoped that he had come back as the Phantom Ranger, but I guess that's just my well wishing.

You could say he led MMAR.

But yeah, he was underappreciated seeing as he was practically outcassed and given a minor role in Zeo. Then with Jason returning, there was no longer a place for Billy.

Razor
03-05-2009, 05:15 PM
At least they gave Billy happiness. I mean, he had to go to Aquitar, but he still ended up with Cestria. So far as we know.

And with Jason, Jason was kind of the second choice though. As I recall they tried to make Billy the Gold Ranger first and then when his body rejected it, they decided to go with Jason.

Mustang3173
03-05-2009, 06:08 PM
And why is that? His martial arts skill, he appeared to be the first real decent martial artist (just unmorphed, not counting stunt actors in morphed suits) that impressed me since Passing Of The Torch.


Did he do his own stunts?:confused: I could never tell who did their own stunts after Passing Of The Torch, except for Eric. Do you know all the actors that did their own stunts?

Jiemusu
03-05-2009, 07:21 PM
Did he do his own stunts?:confused: I could never tell who did their own stunts after Passing Of The Torch, except for Eric. Do you know all the actors that did their own stunts?

Don't know whether the actor did his own stunts morphed, but I look at it this way.

The character (and the actor) showed real martial arts skill unmorphed, and wasn't just another post-Zordon era Ranger that seemed to suddenly learn a martial arts style by simply Rangering up.

In-show reason now, the character is a great martial artist compared to all the rest, and since he uses that in his ranger duties, I personally feel he's not appreciated enough for that.

Again, I'm not sure about the actor, it's mostly an in-show character reason.

Izout
03-05-2009, 08:01 PM
Mike Chat in the Martial Arts Hall of Fame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j2jCTcGIH4

Razor
03-05-2009, 08:03 PM
I don't know about in the seasons themselves, but I don't think any of the rangers did their own stunts. I base that on this:

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc262/m3r3t3/motivator6311311.jpg

Izout
03-05-2009, 08:17 PM
The MMPR casts were in the suits until Season two.

Jiemusu
03-05-2009, 08:20 PM
Everyone is in the suits in every season.

It's about fighting morphed in the suits that's the issue. And most of that is copied sentai footage.

Izout: The cast of MMPR1 were only in their suits for American footage with either scenes in the command centre or rare cases such as the dark dimension or scenes when they need to encorperate civilians that aren't from sentai, everything else was Zyuranger. In fact MMPR2 was actually the seasons where the cast finally produced more American footage with the cast fighting in the suits. I'm not seeing your point, sorry.

Izout
03-05-2009, 08:26 PM
No, at Power Morphicon ASJ and Steve Cardenas said the actors were in the suits up till' sometime in season 2 or 3. After Amy Jo Johnson kocked out a stuntman, that's when they decided to use stunt people in ranger suits. Ever notice how the Green Ranger's fighting style was exactly the same as JDF?

Jiemusu
03-05-2009, 08:32 PM
Ever notice how the Green Ranger's fighting style was exactly the same as JDF?

It wasn't though, not in MMPR1, it was Burai in that suit, not Tommy (JDF). Tommy barely did any morphed fight scenes as the Green Ranger, it was all Zyuranger footage apart from the odd scenario when it involved a civilian who wasn't in Zyuranger, or it it was an American creation such as the Dark Dimension.

The simple fact is you can tell by what shield the Green Ranger has.

Come MMPR2 time, that's the time JDF did more and more of his own Green Ranger fights.

Razor
03-05-2009, 08:38 PM
Yeah what was with the 2 dragon shield thing? The one looked hard like maybe they made it out of fiberglass or something and the other was soft and reminded me of a sun visor my mom used to have.

Izout
03-05-2009, 08:55 PM
Come MMPR2 time, that's the time JDF did more and more of his own Green Ranger fights.
Exactly what I was talking about. The Green Ranger's fighting and kicking style looks almost dead-on as JDF. the kicking especially.

Yeah what was with the 2 dragon shield thing? The one looked hard like maybe they made it out of fiberglass or something and the other was soft and reminded me of a sun visor my mom used to have.
Because JDF complained that the Zyuranger version would be too difficult to move around in and so they made the U.S. version to allow him better movement.