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NekoLLX
07-30-2008, 06:56 AM
seriously their vigilanties dealing massive property damage and fighting monsters without goverment approval.

Know what would be a trip if some Cop tried to arest the Rangers for destruction of property, endangerment and vigilanteism

Green_With_Evil
07-30-2008, 07:00 AM
They may technically break the law, but I doubt any jury would actually convict them. An argument that could be made in their favor in court would be "localized damage;" had they not stopped the monster then and there, it would have gone on to destroy everything. Single-handedly saving the entire planet might grant them a shred of amnesty.

Creator
07-30-2008, 07:02 AM
NeroLLX has a certain point I think... I think no Power Ranger genre so far has explored this idea. It's absolutely great! So far, I think only the Kamen Rider genre has the hero being the hunter and the hunted.

NekoLLX
07-30-2008, 07:06 AM
I know no jury would convict its liek sending cops after Batman, you know hes breaking the law and if you let him do it your degrading the athority of the law and inviting more criminals but you have to do it, even as a token gesture.

Otherwise some crime sindicate coudl weary fancy spandex, and use it as a excuse to tear up that resturant that didn't paythe protection money to the Yokuza under the pretense their "power rangers"

Nebro
07-30-2008, 07:22 AM
Probably why the government made their own Rangers and monopolized the Ranger business come 2025 and before.

twister111
07-30-2008, 01:30 PM
The Government in the PR: Universe always struck me as lazy people after the start of MMPR season three and, before MMPR season two. During season two's airing I just didn't think about it much... The only competent police force are Power Rangers or have some kind of Power Rangers affiliation in the Power Rangers Universe.


:cool:

wadeinthewater
07-30-2008, 01:50 PM
The Government in the PR: Universe always struck me as lazy people after the start of MMPR season three and, before MMPR season two. During season two's airing I just didn't think about it much... The only competent police force are Power Rangers or have some kind of Power Rangers affiliation in the Power Rangers Universe.


:cool:

In the PR universe...the police probably just say to themselves "the power rangers will deal with it...let's get some donuts."

NekoLLX
07-30-2008, 02:26 PM
In the PR universe...the police probably just say to themselves "the power rangers will deal with it...let's get some donuts."

"Captain A plane is flying to low and to fast toward the twin towers."

*yawns* "The Power Rangers will handle it"

NekoLLX
07-30-2008, 04:50 PM
A recent Jungle Fury episode showed that policemen aren't really effective against supernatural monsters. I'd imagine the police help get people to safety and block off roads so people don't wind up wandering into a monster battle.


then you call in the SWAT or national guard.

you dont just shrg and say "let the vgilanttes do it"

Dane.
07-30-2008, 04:51 PM
Police are too weak for the Monsters

King
07-30-2008, 04:52 PM
I don't think its without government approval since they've had parades thrown for them, NASADA helping them out and then later asking for there help, and also creating there own ranger teams. They were even put on TV.

NekoLLX
07-30-2008, 04:55 PM
I don't think its without government approval since they've had parades thrown for them, NASADA helping them out and then later asking for there help, and also creating there own ranger teams. They were even put on TV.

anyone cn get on TV

please point to the episode in which NASADA hhelped NS, WF, JF, or well anyone but Turbo.

King
07-30-2008, 05:58 PM
Why do they have to help somebody out besides Turbo? If there criminals like you say then they wouldn't help any of them out.

If the power rangers were really criminals they would not be on TV like they were in that episode. The show they were on was glorifying them.... And how do you explain Angel grove throwing a parade for them if they were really criminals? How do you explain the fact that the PRIS rangers revealed who they really were and yet weren't pursued by the police?


please point to the episode in which NASADA hhelped NS, WF, JF, or well anyone but Turbo.

Forever red!!!

Legendary.
07-30-2008, 06:05 PM
Forever red doesn't explain anything past WF...

Zero
07-30-2008, 06:05 PM
...You know..
Time Force invested in this idea..

As you recall the Silver Guardians for a few episodes were to hunt down and arrest the rangers.

Also, SPD invested in this idea also. The government took over rangerdom and made it a police issue rank. Therefore removing the ability to be sued for property damage, or have the public turn against the government after the Power Rangers belly-flop on an amusement park..

I've always wanted to see a Ranger-Fic or something close to it that sort of resembled Marvel's "Civil War". Old Rangers vs New Rangers, or Ranger vs Ranger about ethics and the law.
Something a little deeper than:
"Muahahahah! I'm going to feed off of people's fear because I'm ugly, and the sight of me frightens people, so I don't have any friends, or a girlfriend! Whaha--*Sniffle.* I hate being a Beast Warrior.."

Green_With_Evil
07-30-2008, 06:14 PM
Y'know, a Civil War arc would be extremely interesting. "The police trying to arrest the Power Rangers" is just silly, considering the fact that anything in the government's arsenal wouldn't have a hope of taking down a monster. But a storyline in which Rangers attempt to police other Rangers is something I could get behind. So here's the question... who would enlist with the authority, and who would go underground?

King
07-30-2008, 06:16 PM
Forever red doesn't explain anything past WF...

Whats the difference between what the rangers did prior to WF and what they've done after WF?

Zero
07-30-2008, 06:24 PM
Y'know, a Civil War arc would be extremely interesting. "The police trying to arrest the Power Rangers" is just silly, considering the fact that anything in the government's arsenal wouldn't have a hope of taking down a monster. But a storyline in which Rangers attempt to police other Rangers is something I could get behind. So here's the question... who would enlist with the authority, and who would go underground?
I think Tommy would end up being the Tony Stark of the situation. Because he believes in the people. His main concern has been the safety of the people, and if the rangers screw up, then they have to register. People have to know who they are, so if something goes horribly wrong there's someone to blame..

On the other side, I think that Jason would be the leader of the underground rangers, because I've always felt that Jason was more concerned with the good of all people, including the rangers, and that saving the day came at any cost.

Green_With_Evil
07-30-2008, 06:28 PM
I was thinking that it would be Jason who took up the Cap role as well. And Tommy in Stark's role, while I didn't even think about it, is surprisingly fitting. I'd have placed Time Force's Jen as Stark, as she's kind of a hardass.

Zero
07-30-2008, 06:38 PM
I was thinking that it would be Jason who took up the Cap role as well. And Tommy in Stark's role, while I didn't even think about it, is surprisingly fitting. I'd have placed Time Force's Jen as Stark, as she's kind of a hardass.
I would assume that Jen would be on Tommy's side as well, and Wes on Jason's side. Now not only separated by time, but now what's right stands between their hearts.

Green_With_Evil
07-30-2008, 06:42 PM
We'd also have a Tommy/Kimberley dynamic as well. I just can't see ol' Kim siding with Tommy on this one, instead joining Jason in the underground. Billy would probably side with Tommy, as would Trini, but Zach would go underground.

This would make an excellent fanfic.

Legendary.
07-30-2008, 07:03 PM
Whats the difference between what the rangers did prior to WF and what they've done after WF?


Well for one the Machine Empire is dead so there is no reason for NASDA to help and I don't recall any space missions lately...

King
07-30-2008, 07:23 PM
I meant whats the difference between what the rangers did prior to WF and after WF that makes one set of rangers more criminal then the others.

NekoLLX
07-30-2008, 07:33 PM
I meant whats the difference between what the rangers did prior to WF and after WF that makes one set of rangers more criminal then the others.

different teams
uniforms
people

in the eyes of the law, different groups

King
07-30-2008, 07:41 PM
If the power rangers are considered criminals (which they obviously are not) then they would be considered criminals because of there actions not because of there teams, uniforms, or being a different group. So when it comes down to actions what separates the actions of rangers after WF from the ones prior?

DaiRed
07-30-2008, 07:42 PM
I was kind of thinking Civil War when I read the first post of this thread.

Zero
07-30-2008, 08:18 PM
LMAO!

Discovery Channel
Gangland: Power Rangers
"It's well documented, their quest to find and fight evil wherever it rears it's ugly head. But few people know the tragic stories of those bearing the burden of the morpher. Tonight Gangland investigates.. The Power Rangers.."

Creator
07-31-2008, 01:46 AM
Very interesting idea, you know Power Ranger being treated as outlaws. This is a depth in story development. I think this is the factor that separates Kamen Riders and Power Rangers.

golden_phantom_ranger
07-31-2008, 05:21 AM
the government is not going to do anything to the power rangers. cuz the military couldnt even fight the monsters that the rangers fight. they are doing the world a favor

NekoLLX
07-31-2008, 05:38 AM
the government is not going to do anything to the power rangers. cuz the military couldnt even fight the monsters that the rangers fight. they are doing the world a favor

so is batman but he's still a outlaw

golden_phantom_ranger
07-31-2008, 05:45 AM
yea but thats a different universe. and they havent always hunted after batman. gordon accepts what batman does and appreciates it.

King
07-31-2008, 05:47 AM
gordon accepts what batman does and appreciates it.

That pretty much sums up how the Government in the PRU feels about the rangers.

NekoLLX
07-31-2008, 06:41 AM
That pretty much sums up how the Government in the PRU feels about the rangers.

they why don they official deputize the Rangers?

it more like their playing the blissful ignorance card

but legally Rangers are outlaws. i mean just look at the Gizaka fight your gonna tell me no one is going o raise a stink about 3 towers beeing atomized?

King
07-31-2008, 07:07 AM
First of all, its not like they're dealing with actual criminals here. These are hostile space aliens or mystical home grown hostile beings. This is on a different and much higher level then some rouge vigilante who chases down car jackers, murderers, and crazy criminals with some sort of psychosis. Secondly, why deputize the rangers? They aren't acting as cops. Cops catch and arrest criminals. The rangers defend the Earth from evil aliens trying to blow everything up. In the PRU the people understand that what the rangers are doing is far from criminal and the circumstances are far beyond something that they should be considered as vigilantes for.

Legally the rangers are not outlaws. If they were then the government wouldn't allow parades in there honor, nor would NASADA help them out and then ask for there help, and majors wouldn't be giving them medals.

Nobody is going to care about buildings getting damaged during a megazord fight because the rangers are defending the city. If they weren't out there with there megazord everybody knows there would be much more damage and that the world would be over. Thats why they are allowed to do it. Again, this is at a much higher level then average citizens going after criminals and taking the law into there own hands..

Green_With_Evil
07-31-2008, 08:03 AM
The aliens/monsters attacking the city fall under the jurisdiction of what ever country they are active in. In the case of MMPR, America (which we'll use for this argument). Now, since the monster falls under the jurisdiction of America, it should fall to the American government to stop this monster. Since the Power Rangers are acting outside of government law, they are effectively vigilantes. And since vigilante activity is illegal, the Power Rangers are technically criminals.
However, the government has no set plan, weapons, or organizations to deal with these monster attacks. For all intents and purposes, the government is helpless... so when vigilantes who have a moral obligation to face evil and protect those weaker than themselves steps in, the government would be stupid to attempt to arrest them. And the government knows that, so they turn a blind eye to the illegality of the Power Rangers' actions. There's a quote from the old Ninja Turtles cartoon that works very well for this situation: "There are times when right overrules rules."

There is a legal loophole that can be used... and that would be the Rescue Doctrine, which states that if Person A places Person B in danger somehow, then Person A is required to rescue Person B from that hazard. It could be argued that the aliens' vendetta against the Rangers is what places the entire world in danger, so it is legally required of the Rangers to come to its rescue without any legal accusations of vigilantism. Unless I've completely misinterpreted the Rescue Doctrine, in which case, ignore what I just said.

King
07-31-2008, 08:26 AM
Defending the Earth against an alien attack doesn't break any laws because there are no laws about what happens when a monster comes through attacking a city and threatening the whole world. Again, these threats to Earth are not criminals which is what the laws against vigilantism are about. If this were real life and some hostile aliens came down attacking Earth and out of nowhere somebody came and stopped them they wouldn't be considered vigilantes. "In this country citizens may use force and violence to defend their lives and their property, and in some instances the lives and property of others, but they must do so under the specific circumstances allowed by the law if they wish to avoid being prosecuted for a crime themselves". Now, don't you think a alien attacking a city or an ancient earthly evil attacking the city counts as a specific circumstance? Obviously the Govt. in the PRU does since they've worked with the rangers before and have allowed a Mayor to give a team of rangers medals for what they're doing..

Green_With_Evil
07-31-2008, 09:23 AM
A citizen of the United States is allowed to bare arms, but are they allowed to possess weaponry on the level of a nuclear warhead? Absolutely not. And the Power Rangers possess weaponry that far surpasses such a weapon. Possession of that is in and of itself illegal.

When aliens/monsters attack, they are breaking several laws, which include the destruction of public property, the destruction of private property, mass murder, mass endangerment, attempted mass murder, willful disregard for the rights of others... need I go on? A monster attacking the United States is, legally, no different than someone from another country attacking the United States.

All of this has been argued before in different stories. Take a look at some comic book arcs in which superheroes are questioned despite the fact that they've saved the world multiple times. The Dark Knight Returns, Civil War, X-Men... the list goes on. The plain, simple fact is that they, whether that refers to Batman, Superman, the X-Men, Captain America, or the Power Rangers, are acting outside of the law. As such, they are technically breaking the law. It's a legal technicality, but it has been overlooked many times because of their heroic actions. It is no different than Superman facing Doomsday, or any other myriad of aliens and villains; the plain, inarguable FACT is that they are breaking the law by acting as a type of law enforcement and taking the law in their own hands. However, in the PRU, the government chooses to turn a blind eye to such technicalities.

Nobody is saying that the Rangers are wrong for protecting the Earth; the authorities are obviously thankful for their help. Again, "there are times when right overrules rules."

WraithGadra
07-31-2008, 11:47 AM
I agree with Green, in that PR activities are breaking the letter of the law, if not the spirit.

Zero
07-31-2008, 01:31 PM
Well, all it will take is one flub-up, like in Civil War(Marvel Comics). One serious mistake with the Rhino Steel Megazord falling on a playground of children, slaughtering them all, and then the public will demand action be taken against the power rangers.
They may act outside of the law, like Batman, they may save the world on a regular basis, but the fact remains, they are masked vigilantes with no ties to the government outside of Lost Galaxy, LightSpeed, TimeForce, and SPD.. They are, by Majority, an independent justice dispensing legal time-bomb..
I can think that the majority of people who watched those kids get squished like grapes under a car tire, would hate the power rangers, and recall every begrudged moment in their lives that involved the power rangers.
The government would have no choice but to issue a mass registration act on all former, and present Rangers in order to properly charge the accused party with said law infractions..
Sorry.. S'just the case..

King
07-31-2008, 04:09 PM
A citizen of the United States is allowed to bare arms, but are they allowed to possess weaponry on the level of a nuclear warhead? Absolutely not. And the Power Rangers possess weaponry that far surpasses such a weapon. Possession of that is in and of itself illegal.

When aliens/monsters attack, they are breaking several laws, which include the destruction of public property, the destruction of private property, mass murder, mass endangerment, attempted mass murder, willful disregard for the rights of others... need I go on? A monster attacking the United States is, legally, no different than someone from another country attacking the United States.

All of this has been argued before in different stories. Take a look at some comic book arcs in which superheroes are questioned despite the fact that they've saved the world multiple times. The Dark Knight Returns, Civil War, X-Men... the list goes on. The plain, simple fact is that they, whether that refers to Batman, Superman, the X-Men, Captain America, or the Power Rangers, are acting outside of the law. As such, they are technically breaking the law. It's a legal technicality, but it has been overlooked many times because of their heroic actions. It is no different than Superman facing Doomsday, or any other myriad of aliens and villains; the plain, inarguable FACT is that they are breaking the law by acting as a type of law enforcement and taking the law in their own hands. However, in the PRU, the government chooses to turn a blind eye to such technicalities.

Nobody is saying that the Rangers are wrong for protecting the Earth; the authorities are obviously thankful for their help. Again, "there are times when right overrules rules."

The power rangers are more then citizens so yes they are allowed to possess those types of weapons? Yes the rangers are allowed to have those weapons because for one, if they weren't then the Government wouldn't have helped them and given them medals for there work. And two, the weapons they have is nothing addressed in the law because they are to advanced. The law says nothing about owning lasers and giant megazords. In most situations you would probably need a license or something to have the type of weapons they have, but all this stuff is on a much higher level then a typical situation and while they might not have a license, they have Government approval.

Monsters attacking the united states is different then somebody from another country attacking us(which would be considered as terrorism). A monster attacking is on a whole other level then terrorism. Like I said, in specific circumstances citizens are allowed to protect the property of themselves and others. If they get thrown into a building by a monster causing damage then they aren't the ones responsible for destruction of property, the monster is. As for mass murder, the only ones they are killing is monsters. If they were killing people they would get charged for it but the law doesn't protect against aliens and monsters. Since there is no such thing as aliens and monsters in the real world the law doesn't even address them.

The rangers aren't vigilantes because vigilantes are people who take the law into there own hands by trying to punish another person without any legal authority. Now as far as taking the law into there own hands, I don't think you understand that they aren't taking the law into there own hands because law and order doesn't apply to alien and supernatural attacks. They apply to criminal and terrorist attacks. The threats in power rangers goes way beyond law and law enforcement. As for punishing another person without legal authority, we aren't dealing with people here and the Government supporting them is giving them legal authority. The difference between a batman and Spiderman and the power rangers is that the power rangers do have the authority given by the Government. Has there been an episode showing the Government telling them they have the authority to do what they are doing? No! But actions speak louder then words and we have been shown on countless occasions in PR that they do have the authority.

Fire Warrior
07-31-2008, 04:40 PM
You know, this remindes me of Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers. That was a pretty good parody of PR. Remember this quote....

"Congratulations! You saved the day and only killed 10,000 people!"

...Or something like that. It's been a while since I've seen it.

oh, and you can't forget...

"Well done Rangers! Violence always works."

Ecliptor_knight
07-31-2008, 05:01 PM
Well I like in some comic books the heroes are pursued by the law because of the fact that they take the law in their own hands, now in PR's case the amount of collateral damage is immense and must cost the city millions if not more to rebuild, but, you can't put a price on your life so maybe all that is worth it if they can live another day.

King
07-31-2008, 05:24 PM
There are good Samaritan laws that can and probably would protect the rangers.

GnomeBandit622
07-31-2008, 07:39 PM
You forget some ranger teams are doing it as a profession, but over all they just save the day and people know it's necessary. Plus, it's a kids show, they wouldn't tell kids to break the law even if you're doing something good. Or at least they wouldn't promote it.

NekoLLX
07-31-2008, 07:49 PM
You forget some ranger teams are doing it as a profession, but over all they just save the day and people know it's necessary. Plus, it's a kids show, they wouldn't tell kids to break the law even if you're doing something good. Or at least they wouldn't promote it.

we didn;t forget were just examining a overlooked aspect of the setting

in my PR inspired novel this is action pone point the frist team deals with as they basicly have to "register" as a offical Champion of the City

GnomeBandit622
07-31-2008, 08:14 PM
A. You have a PR inspired Novel? Cool.
B. When does the first team register to be an officail Champion of the city?
C. I just meant SOME people overlooked that key concept

Scaletex
07-31-2008, 08:55 PM
You are all forgetting, there is a legal distinction that is often made between "Good Samaritans" and vigilantes.

The difference is the following: Aliens/Monsters do not fall under the same jurisdiction as human evildoers. Therefore, they are seen as something more of a natural disaster.

The Rangers deal with these "natural" disasters and often help get others out of harm's way (as Mack did with that family when Moltor sent lava on the city.) Blowing up a monster is seen as a form of containing a disaster.

Most of the time, Superman fought off natural disasters and also trapped ordinary criminals where they were unable to escape from the law. When he fought and killed supernatural foes that were too powerful, he was still viewed as a hero for fending off "natural disasters."

The Rangers, therefore, are viewed as Good Samaritans. In real life, a Good Samaritan rescues those in the crossfire of a crime or detains the criminal in some way to make it easier for police to catch the criminal. Some Good Samaritans do a better job at this than others, which is why police still get nervous when Good Samaritans are involved.

While the help is sometimes appreciated, it does tend to undermine the abilities of the police to actually do their jobs.

Vigilantes, on the other hand, are creatures more like Ghost Rider and Spawn. They often murder the targets they are sent after, and have no gripes about using their supernatural powers to hunt down human criminals rather than detain them for the police.

The Ninja Turtles, in a way, also fall under this category. While they're rarely shown actually killing anyone, it's hard to believe that Leonardo has never killed anyone with those swords of his. Besides, they're freaks and monsters that live in the sewer and would be hunted to extinction merely for being what they are.

Vigilantes, in a real-world sense, often kill targets they deem worthy of being stopped, as does the Punisher. Vigilantes like the Punisher don't sit around and wait for troublemakers and try to stop them in the middle of their troublemaking, as does Spider-Man most of the time. Instead, vigilantes like the Punisher bring the fight to their targets' front door. They also have no gripes about killing the target before gaining a confirmation of guilt.

Vigilantes, because of their lack of concern over actually killing other human beings, don't always care if the target deserved death or not, nor about weighing the evidence before convicting and executing the target.

A Good Samaritan sneaks up behind a rapist and knocks him out with a beer bottle to rescue the female victim.

A vigilante waits for a man he merely suspects to be a rapist to be alone in a dark alley, and then brutally murders the suspect without a prior trial of any sort.

Police make a distinction between these two types, and document at what point someone goes from being a Good Samaritan to an actual vigilante.

In the Batman universe, however, the police make no distinction. The idea that a man dressed as a giant bat has to protect the city is such an insult to the corrupt police in Gotham that they have a personal vendetta against Batman.

In the classic comics, Batman actually did kill a few villains with his Bat-Gun. Since then, this was retconned out of the comics in favor of Batman having a moral predisposition against killing. This was to tidy up his image so that comics would sell better. But the publishers forgot to change the police's attitude about Batman to follow suit with the new moral standards.

Of course, this was all ignored in the 60's TV show, which was heavily sanitized in an effort to pass FCC guidelines at the time for what was considered "wholesome" entertainment.

The Power Rangers would be classified as Good Samaritans, both because of their rescue efforts and because the villains they face are supernatural anyway. In SPD though, the Ranger program was officially taken over by the government anyway, as a means to ensure that there was never any confusion about whose side the Rangers were on.

The Rangers, because of their universal role in policing the universe, were also able to get in good with world governments. This gave them a sense of immunity from prosecution that proved itself to be priceless. The death of Zordon opened up numerous opportunities for expansion in the Ranger programs.

Kamen Riders, however, tend to be a much more exclusive group that are less inclined and less willing to forfeit the sovereignty of their program to any one nation's government. This is why Kamen Riders are frequently feared and mistrusted.

A masked hero with a motorcycle who is utterly non-conformist has always been a red flag to law enforcement. This is why Kamen Riders are often treated the same way as Ghost Riders.

JungleKingRanger
07-31-2008, 09:02 PM
tech. the power rangers are murders. they kill monsters on a daily bases and no one dose a crap about it. it isnt until the racist utopia of 3000s that they start capturing monster instead of killing them. it a bit ironic that a racist world desides to spare evil rather than taking them out.

Green_With_Evil
07-31-2008, 09:10 PM
tech. the power rangers are murders. they kill monsters on a daily bases and no one dose a crap about it. it isnt until the racist utopia of 3000s that they start capturing monster instead of killing them. it a bit ironic that a racist world desides to spare evil rather than taking them out.

I wouldn't go quite that far. The monsters in the PRU are created for one thing: destruction. They are not innocent beings, and they threaten the lives of not only a city, but the entire world.
If a guy wielding a knife breaks into my house and I shoot him in the face with a gun, I've done nothing wrong. There's a law in many states that covers this, called the "Make My Day" Law. Basically, when someone is threatening you or in some way trying to inflict serious bodily harm on you, you have the right to respond with deadly force. The Power Rangers do that on a much larger scale.

Scaletex
07-31-2008, 09:11 PM
tech. the power rangers are murders. they kill monsters on a daily bases and no one dose a crap about it. it isnt until the racist utopia of 3000s that they start capturing monster instead of killing them. it a bit ironic that a racist world desides to spare evil rather than taking them out.

"Murder" is assuming the monsters created by the uber-villains have civil rights and fall under the same jurisdictions of having a soul and therefore rights to life and liberty that are given to human beings and to humanoid aliens.

Monsters, because of their very nature, are more like mutant beasts, even if they can talk. Because of this, calling the Rangers "murderers" is a bit extreme. It's more like they're killing rabid pit bulls than killing shoplifters. This would make them more like unlicensed animal control than like true vigilantes.

You are right about the other thing though. A racist 31st century world decides to teach the 21st century to simply capture evil entities rather than killing them, which is ironic since the 21st century Rangers just wanted to kill off a pestilence before it spread and the 31st century Rangers were racists.

JungleKingRanger
07-31-2008, 09:20 PM
I wouldn't go quite that far. The monsters in the PRU are created for one thing: destruction. They are not innocent beings, and they threaten the lives of not only a city, but the entire world.
If a guy wielding a knife breaks into my house and I shoot him in the face with a gun, I've done nothing wrong. There's a law in many states that covers this, called the "Make My Day" Law. Basically, when someone is threatening you or in some way trying to inflict serious bodily harm on you, you have the right to respond with deadly force. The Power Rangers do that on a much larger scale.

sorry but if i see murder as murder. if someone broke into my house and i killed them i still feel guilty. after all this time i think its a mistake not a single ranger has felt bad for killing a monster. and lets not forget InSpace pretty much states alot of the monster the rangers have kill were really aliens.

Scaletex
07-31-2008, 09:22 PM
tech. the power rangers are murders. they kill monsters on a daily bases and no one dose a crap about it. it isnt until the racist utopia of 3000s that they start capturing monster instead of killing them. it a bit ironic that a racist world desides to spare evil rather than taking them out.

sorry but if i see murder as murder. if someone broke into my house and i killed them i still feel guilty. after all this time i think its a mistake not a single ranger has felt bad for killing a monster. and lets not forget InSpace pretty much states alot of the monster the rangers have kill were really aliens.

By In Space, it had escalated to a situation of full-scale guerrilla war. The Rangers were no longer patrol duty for the rock quarries; they were all-out guerrilla/militia soldiers fighting enemy soldiers of higher ranks.

NekoLLX
07-31-2008, 09:33 PM
A. You have a PR inspired Novel? Cool.
B. When does the first team register to be an officail Champion of the city?
C. I just meant SOME people overlooked that key concept

roughly around page 160

A hour passes quickly as the city charges down from its alert state. The eight champions, seven Armored Core leaders, in their full military dress, and the office staff of the mayor are all seated in a large conference room. After introductions are over the meeting begins in earnest.

“As the recent incident shows,” the second speaker from before starts “The city’s dedicated Champion response hovers on a razor’s edge, at the same time the Armored Core can not keep up a steady presence in a well defended city just due to a razor’s edge.”

“We need a solution; one that gives our multi colored defenders some room foe flexibility, as it stand now if one was injured or sick the city could fall in a hour. However the police are not equipped to handle the threat even on a delaying front.” The uniformed Chief of Police adds.

“There is the Sidekick Support Protocols in the Champion Rights and Responsibilities Constitution,” the sympathetic Armored Core leader states.

“Excuse me,” Kenny interjects, “But what is that? And what do you mean when you say official Champions?”

A murmur raises from the gathered, a man in a suit pops open his laptop and begins to look up something. “Well this is peculiar.” He finally says. “I have an entry in the database for a team matching the core make up the team, red, blue, yellow, black, and pink are all here. But they are listed as inactive and were last in duty in the early 20th century, the Wild West era.”

“Is there a problem?” Tara wonders.

“Well,” the man sates “Your not officially registered, your vigilantes, criminals.”

“Now hold up,” Malcolm protests, “Your telling me we’ve busted our asses for this city and you’re going to arrest us?”

“Heavens no!” the Mayor injects, “I take it you inherited your uniforms and are a legacy team, at least the core five of you. We can get the matter straightened out, no problem, and get to work on paying you’re your back wages. Don’t worry. But we will need some additional information on the other three to smooth out the red tape.”

“Wait? What? We get paid for this gig?” Claire wonders aloud.

One of the Armored Core pilots nods, “Champions are a civil service and are thus subject to regulations and benefits of the station? You were all doing this probono?”

Jason lowered his head as his voice dropped an octave. “We were sort of drafted, I started off as a brainwashed minion of that space witch whose been terrorizing the area; she apparently stole the sixth marine’s power ages ago. The Silver Knight was in a similar situation and the Hydro Hag is one of her monsters turn traitor to her cause. That’s our story.”

“When Reeva was accidentally released by astronauts on the moon the five of us were empowered to counter her advances.” Michael adds.

The man with the laptop was already entering this new info on his computer. “Alright, now we just need a representative who will serve as your banker and handle your paychecks, I trust you all want to maintain your masked or secret identities?”

The seven all nod, all except Hydro Hag. “I don’t have a secret identity, not really, I have a human form but I’m not officially a citizen of your city.”

The mayor smiles, “We’ll work out your details separately then Ms. Hydro Hag. And get each of you a copy of the laws and benefits info. But back to the issue at hand, the Sidekick Protocol. Can you provide some of your technology to a select group, not all of it, but enough to bump them up past Armored Core level as your sidekicks.”

The seven look to Kenny, he pauses in thought. “I’ll need all the Armored Core data, but I think so.”

“Excellent!” the mayor says excited.

Lance9384
08-01-2008, 01:43 AM
I personally laughed when the Rhino zord sacrificed all those buildings in the episode that had just came out.

Creator
08-01-2008, 08:08 AM
I personally laughed when the Rhino zord sacrificed all those buildings in the episode that had just came out.

Oh my that's bad....

GnomeBandit622
08-01-2008, 01:33 PM
A hour passes quickly as the city charges down from its alert state. The eight champions, seven Armored Core leaders, in their full military dress, and the office staff of the mayor are all seated in a large conference room. After introductions are over the meeting begins in earnest.

“As the recent incident shows,” the second speaker from before starts “The city’s dedicated Champion response hovers on a razor’s edge, at the same time the Armored Core can not keep up a steady presence in a well defended city just due to a razor’s edge.”

“We need a solution; one that gives our multi colored defenders some room foe flexibility, as it stand now if one was injured or sick the city could fall in a hour. However the police are not equipped to handle the threat even on a delaying front.” The uniformed Chief of Police adds.

“There is the Sidekick Support Protocols in the Champion Rights and Responsibilities Constitution,” the sympathetic Armored Core leader states.

“Excuse me,” Kenny interjects, “But what is that? And what do you mean when you say official Champions?”

A murmur raises from the gathered, a man in a suit pops open his laptop and begins to look up something. “Well this is peculiar.” He finally says. “I have an entry in the database for a team matching the core make up the team, red, blue, yellow, black, and pink are all here. But they are listed as inactive and were last in duty in the early 20th century, the Wild West era.”

“Is there a problem?” Tara wonders.

“Well,” the man sates “Your not officially registered, your vigilantes, criminals.”

“Now hold up,” Malcolm protests, “Your telling me we’ve busted our asses for this city and you’re going to arrest us?”

“Heavens no!” the Mayor injects, “I take it you inherited your uniforms and are a legacy team, at least the core five of you. We can get the matter straightened out, no problem, and get to work on paying you’re your back wages. Don’t worry. But we will need some additional information on the other three to smooth out the red tape.”

“Wait? What? We get paid for this gig?” Claire wonders aloud.

One of the Armored Core pilots nods, “Champions are a civil service and are thus subject to regulations and benefits of the station? You were all doing this probono?”

Jason lowered his head as his voice dropped an octave. “We were sort of drafted, I started off as a brainwashed minion of that space witch whose been terrorizing the area; she apparently stole the sixth marine’s power ages ago. The Silver Knight was in a similar situation and the Hydro Hag is one of her monsters turn traitor to her cause. That’s our story.”

“When Reeva was accidentally released by astronauts on the moon the five of us were empowered to counter her advances.” Michael adds.

The man with the laptop was already entering this new info on his computer. “Alright, now we just need a representative who will serve as your banker and handle your paychecks, I trust you all want to maintain your masked or secret identities?”

The seven all nod, all except Hydro Hag. “I don’t have a secret identity, not really, I have a human form but I’m not officially a citizen of your city.”

The mayor smiles, “We’ll work out your details separately then Ms. Hydro Hag. And get each of you a copy of the laws and benefits info. But back to the issue at hand, the Sidekick Protocol. Can you provide some of your technology to a select group, not all of it, but enough to bump them up past Armored Core level as your sidekicks.”

The seven look to Kenny, he pauses in thought. “I’ll need all the Armored Core data, but I think so.”

“Excellent!” the mayor says excited.

I thought you meant the actual, original team, from the show. That's really not an arguement then. Even if the damage the rangers did was bad, they're most likely not going to show them being called out on it on a Kids show distributed by Disney, that's the simple truth.

Scaletex
08-01-2008, 01:40 PM
If any of you want to see a movie where the hero actually gets criticized for causing damages to city infrastructure, you're better off watching Hancock.

GnomeBandit622
08-01-2008, 01:48 PM
If any of you want to see a movie where the hero actually gets criticized for causing damages to city infrastructure, you're better off watching Hancock.

Agreed, thank you

NekoLLX
08-01-2008, 03:59 PM
I thought you meant the actual, original team, from the show. That's really not an arguement then. Even if the damage the rangers did was bad, they're most likely not going to show them being called out on it on a Kids show distributed by Disney, that's the simple truth.

i did say it was a novel inspire by PR not a pr Fan Fic though

NekoLLX
08-01-2008, 08:51 PM
And yet it uses Armored Cores, a type of mecha from a video game franchise.

In any case, I think it's clear the Rangers aren't criminals. Police aren't effective against the monsters, the monsters probably don't have sentient rights (and the two eras they do, Time Force and SPD, you'll notice they're merely apprehended, not killed), and I'd imagine damage that's an offshoot from a clear battle situation isn't that big a deal from a fighting force that consistently protects the planet year after year.

armored core is just a generic term for a man sized armored battle suit

GnomeBandit622
08-01-2008, 09:02 PM
i did say it was a novel inspire by PR not a pr Fan Fic though

Hate to burst your bubble, but until now, you never said that in response to my post. Look back, nothin'.

armored core is just a generic term for a man sized armored battle suit

Armored core isn't a generic term, it's actually a video game franchise as Nebro said.

NekoLLX
08-01-2008, 09:08 PM
we didn;t forget were just examining a overlooked aspect of the setting

in my PR inspired novel this is action pone point the frist team deals with as they basicly have to "register" as a offical Champion of the City

Hate to burst your bubble, but until now, you never said that in response to my post. Look back, nothin'.

you were saying?

GnomeBandit622
08-01-2008, 09:14 PM
My point still stands

NekoLLX
08-01-2008, 09:20 PM
My point still stands

what point clear quote you where i siad it was PR Inspired.
Or are you talking about the ACs.
Remember thas a excerpt so you don't have the content of the other 160 pages.

Hailey Hartford
08-01-2008, 09:20 PM
This whole idea is ridiculous.How many times have they saved our butts now? I would think by now they can be granted a lot of lenieincy due to they fact they have saved us more times than you can count.

GnomeBandit622
08-01-2008, 09:29 PM
what point clear quote you where i siad it was PR Inspired.
Or are you talking about the ACs.
Remember thas a excerpt so you don't have the content of the other 160 pages.

You never said 'FanFic,' Inspired could mean any number of things. You never said anything but "inspired". I apologize if my brain doesn't pick up on your riddle words :p

You don't really need the other 160 pages to see that Armored Core (dramatic pause) is the name of a video game, not a generic term.

NekoLLX
08-01-2008, 09:47 PM
You never said 'FanFic,' Inspired could mean any number of things. You never said anything but "inspired". I apologize if my brain doesn't pick up on your riddle words :p

You don't really need the other 160 pages to see that Armored Core (dramatic pause) is the name of a video game, not a generic term.

when they (andthe marines) have about 12 others names yeah, it does.

edit: and i don't see what you problem is
its NOT a fan fic
it is inspired by PR

whats the problem?

Nyteshade Ranger
08-01-2008, 10:08 PM
Ok to bring up a unmentioned point. Whats to say the Rangers don't help the city rebuild after all the destruction from a Megazord vs Giant monster battle??

We never see what actually goes on between episodes so there is a time lapse there and "super powered" heros with giant robots would definately expediate rebuilding efforts.

GnomeBandit622
08-01-2008, 10:14 PM
There's no problem, you just need to get your story straight. You just made it a whole lot more complicated. If it's not a FanFic and only 'inspired' by PR...yet another dramatic pause...then it has no place in this thread. It's a different story entirely because last time I checked this thread was about Power Rangers.

when they (andthe marines) have about 12 others names yeah, it does.

What in the H does this aforementioned quote mean?

NekoLLX
08-01-2008, 11:03 PM
There's no problem, you just need to get your story straight. You just made it a whole lot more complicated. If it's not a FanFic and only 'inspired' by PR...yet another dramatic pause...then it has no place in this thread. It's a different story entirely because last time I checked this thread was about Power Rangers

Which i said, it was a tangent topic. Whihc is something ou can do.

You know like hope were quoteing Cival War here?

its no different then posting scans od Tony Start and Cap disagreeing on meta human registration

JungleKingRanger
08-01-2008, 11:33 PM
i'm still waiting for a marvel comics type cival war to happen in pr. we know it will never happen, unless they were to make a teenage-adult anime version of pr.

GnomeBandit622
08-02-2008, 12:03 AM
Which i said, it was a tangent topic. Whihc is something ou can do.

You know like hope were quoteing Cival War here?

its no different then posting scans od Tony Start and Cap disagreeing on meta human registration

I'm done with this one, bro. Mainly because I've got no clue what you're talking about in this last post. Speak English, man! Or at least proper english.

WraithGadra
08-02-2008, 02:40 AM
Ok to bring up a unmentioned point. Whats to say the Rangers don't help the city rebuild after all the destruction from a Megazord vs Giant monster battle??

We never see what actually goes on between episodes so there is a time lapse there and "super powered" heros with giant robots would definately expediate rebuilding efforts.
That reminds me of one episode of "The Tick." After the big superpowered fight, it shows the various heroes of the show helping to rebuild some damaged buildings. The odd part was when a civilian said "Most heroes would just leave a mess." The Tick then goes into a spiel that basically says "Always clean up your messes, kids." Anyway, my point is that that's a reasonable assumption.