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Ernde38
12-10-2008, 03:49 AM
Had Steve Cardenas/ "Rocky" been able to participate in "Forever Red", which morph do you think they would've given him? His "Tyrannosaurus!" morph from season 2, or his "Red Ranger power!" morph from season 3 (because of Jason using the original)?

Red Tyrannosaurus
12-10-2008, 04:16 AM
He would have probably used the ninja powers from season 3(even though those are destroyed if i remember correctly) because if not he would have been almost identical to jason.

This reminds me....rocky is seriously the most overlooked ranger of all time.....

-only red ranger who coundnt be leader(although he was 2nd in command)
-demoted to blue ranger
-feels replaced by the ranger that he replaced
-then gets the worst exit ever with that stupid back injury wich i still hate...
-then gets replaced by the most annoying ranger ever...justin...
-nobody even makes a slight refference to him in forever red...(they could have at least mentioned he couldnt make it or somethin...)

bulkmier65
12-10-2008, 04:22 AM
Definitely "red ranger power!" and I think that they might have given jason the dragon shield in order for people to distinguish them. There also would have been the problem of the power coins. They probably would have had the gorilla power coin in Rocky's morpher, but that wouldn't have made sense because that coin was destroyed...

On second thought I don't think having Rocky in Forever Red would have worked, and though I'm sad he wasn't, it saved us having to deal with more stupid continuity issues (which wouldn't have mattered if Saban had used the Dairanger costumes, but I digress) as if there weren't enough raised by this episode.

Chris3123
12-10-2008, 05:29 AM
It would have been impossible for both Rocky and Jason to morph together. There were only 2 total MM Red ranger powers: The dino coin and the ninja coin, and the ninja coins were obliterated on screen at the end of the third season. So, the repaired (however that was done) Red Dino Coin is the only MM Red Ranger power source to exist as of Forever Red.

Now, Rocky instead of Jason, that would be possible. But stupid, because what's a red ranger teamup without Jason? :p

DarkProject
12-10-2008, 04:42 PM
I think that Red MMPR Ranger with Dragon Shield and Dragon Dagger Jason would've been the best for him.

Rocky wouldn've gotten the MMPR costume with the Power Sword. He could have worn the Movie Costume, as well...

Jiemusu
12-10-2008, 05:47 PM
Jason = Tyrannosaurus Powers.
Rocky = Ninja Powers.

Rocky was never going to replace Jason, they were both going to be there. Jason as the original Red Ranger, and Rocky in his Ninjetti form.

Steve moved house so they couldn't get hold of him, so they brought in Eric instead to bring the total red rangers unto 10.

This reminds me....rocky is seriously the most overlooked ranger of all time.....

-only red ranger who coundnt be leader(although he was 2nd in command)
-demoted to blue ranger
-feels replaced by the ranger that he replaced
-then gets the worst exit ever with that stupid back injury wich i still hate...
-then gets replaced by the most annoying ranger ever...justin...
-nobody even makes a slight refference to him in forever red...(they could have at least mentioned he couldnt make it or somethin...)

You, sir, should be knighted.

I couldn't agree more.

Magna Defender
12-10-2008, 06:08 PM
Definitely "red ranger power!" and I think that they might have given jason the dragon shield in order for people to distinguish them. There also would have been the problem of the power coins. They probably would have had the gorilla power coin in Rocky's morpher, but that wouldn't have made sense because that coin was destroyed...

On second thought I don't think having Rocky in Forever Red would have worked, and though I'm sad he wasn't, it saved us having to deal with more stupid continuity issues (which wouldn't have mattered if Saban had used the Dairanger costumes, but I digress) as if there weren't enough raised by this episode.

I agree with you,it could be awesome if Rocky could take a apart in FR together with the other rangers.
Also if Jason could use Green rangers power (Shield,Dagger) it was amazing.

Jason = Tyrannosaurus Powers.
Rocky = Ninja Powers.

Rocky was never going to replace Jason, they were both going to be there. Jason as the original Red Ranger, and Rocky in his Ninjetti form.

Steve moved house so they couldn't get hold of him, so they brought in Eric instead to bring the total red rangers unto 10.



You, sir, should be knighted.

I couldn't agree more.

It was a constraint to bring Eric instead Rocky?

Jiemusu
12-10-2008, 06:14 PM
It was a constraint to bring Eric instead Rocky?

Eric was only there because Steve (actor) couldn't make it, and they had to bring the total up to 10.

Red Tyrannosaurus
12-10-2008, 06:39 PM
You, sir, should be knighted.

I couldn't agree more.

LOL thanks,i think in fact this deserves a thread of itself...rocky is seriously overlooked and underrated...

Magna Defender
12-10-2008, 06:58 PM
Eric was only there because Steve (actor) couldn't make it, and they had to bring the total up to 10.

So,according to your saying,Eric was a defult? Even if Steve(Rocky) could make it,Eric wouldn't participate FR?

Rebelde
12-10-2008, 07:21 PM
Eric was only there because Steve (actor) couldn't make it, and they had to bring the total up to 10.

And your sources are..?

DanAbare86
12-10-2008, 07:31 PM
Rocky could have bean in the astro mega ship. We could have a zord figth that would had bean cool.

Jiemusu
12-10-2008, 10:02 PM
And your sources are..?

Wow. You're... kidding right? Tell me you're kidding.

Power Mophicons videos, seriously, watch them.

@Magna Defender: Yeah. Eric is a special ranger, he was never supposed to be there. Steve mentioned at a Power Morphicon that they originally wanted him, but due to him moving house, they couldnt get hold of him. They needed Eric to get the number up to 10. Both Rocky and Jason were supposed to be there, not wearing the same costume, Rocky wearing the ninja costume.

Steve mentioned this on the video, so I'm not making it up. It followed with a comment by JDF that he would have preferred it if Steve had taken over as MMPR Red, and Eric had replaced Jason, which sparked a few suprised remarks in the audience.

Rebelde
12-10-2008, 10:16 PM
Wow. You're... kidding right? Tell me you're kidding.

Power Mophicons videos, seriously, watch them.


Well..I don't search for EVERY SINGLE morphicon vid on youtube -.- I've seen some, but I won't waste my time, searching for all of them -.-

Ernde38
12-10-2008, 11:08 PM
Wow. You're... kidding right? Tell me you're kidding.

Power Mophicons videos, seriously, watch them.

@Magna Defender: Yeah. Eric is a special ranger, he was never supposed to be there. Steve mentioned at a Power Morphicon that they originally wanted him, but due to him moving house, they couldnt get hold of him. They needed Eric to get the number up to 10. Both Rocky and Jason were supposed to be there, not wearing the same costume, Rocky wearing the ninja costume.

Steve mentioned this on the video, so I'm not making it up. It followed with a comment by JDF that he would have preferred it if Steve had taken over as MMPR Red, and Eric had replaced Jason, which sparked a few suprised remarks in the audience.

Man, you and Cmdr. Crayfish/ Chris Funaro do wonders for those of us who have questions like these! Thanks ALOT! Now if I can figure out how to write my FR fanfiction with Rocky in there, as the the Red Ninja Ranger in a way in which he got them back...

Red Tyrannosaurus
12-10-2008, 11:38 PM
Steve mentioned this on the video, so I'm not making it up. It followed with a comment by JDF that he would have preferred it if Steve had taken over as MMPR Red, and Eric had replaced Jason, which sparked a few suprised remarks in the audience.

That comment still blows my mind i mean...does JDF hate ASJ THAT much??

Red Tyrannosaurus
12-10-2008, 11:41 PM
Well..I don't search for EVERY SINGLE morphicon vid on youtube -.- I've seen some, but I won't waste my time, searching for all of them -.-

Not trying to offend or anything but why is it such a waste of time searching for power morphicon videos? I mean,every PR fan cant get enough of them...

Rebelde
12-11-2008, 12:08 AM
Not trying to offend or anything but why is it such a waste of time searching for power morphicon videos? I mean,every PR fan cant get enough of them...

Because there are like 49578743983 of them XD I don't have time to see them all XD

Jasper Hale
12-11-2008, 12:11 AM
Now, honestly, I think Rocky would have been in his Ninjetti costume or would have been in the Red MMPR costume, but with something suggesting that it was under the influence of the ninja powers. With all the plotholes in this particular episode, it would probably work, or just give us more questions and theories. *shrugs* I would have felt Rocky being in Forever Red would have taken away from the general experience, despite the fact that he was a Red Ranger.

He would have probably used the ninja powers from season 3(even though those are destroyed if i remember correctly) because if not he would have been almost identical to jason.

This reminds me....rocky is seriously the most overlooked ranger of all time.....

-only red ranger who coundnt be leader(although he was 2nd in command)
-demoted to blue ranger
-feels replaced by the ranger that he replaced
-then gets the worst exit ever with that stupid back injury wich i still hate...
-then gets replaced by the most annoying ranger ever...justin...
-nobody even makes a slight refference to him in forever red...(they could have at least mentioned he couldnt make it or somethin...)

Wasn't Kim/Billy second-in-command? I mean, Rocky had very little experience to even be like third-in-command or something, let alone second. I otherwise agree with you, though I will say that, in the competition for most underrated ranger, Rocky ties with Carter (IMO, by the way). Rocky still wins in most screwed over ranger.

Wow. You're... kidding right? Tell me you're kidding.

Power Mophicons videos, seriously, watch them.

@Magna Defender: Yeah. Eric is a special ranger, he was never supposed to be there. Steve mentioned at a Power Morphicon that they originally wanted him, but due to him moving house, they couldnt get hold of him. They needed Eric to get the number up to 10. Both Rocky and Jason were supposed to be there, not wearing the same costume, Rocky wearing the ninja costume.

Steve mentioned this on the video, so I'm not making it up. It followed with a comment by JDF that he would have preferred it if Steve had taken over as MMPR Red, and Eric had replaced Jason, which sparked a few suprised remarks in the audience.

Um... condescending attitude, much? I mean, not everyone has the time to look up every single video of the Power Morphicon... I've only watched so many, since they are so scattered in places as well.

I don't remember Steve saying anything about him being replaced by Eric, but I'm not sure. I may have missed it, so I might have to rewatch it for the sake of proof... though, it'd be easier for you to provide it, eh? *nudge*

And I kinda want proof for JDF saying that, since I remember JDF saying in a different convention he actually liked working with Austin, as well as Steve, and would work with him (Austin) again if given the choice. It's kinda just odd to believethat he's two-faced like that.

Man, you and Cmdr. Crayfish/ Chris Funaro do wonders for those of us who have questions like these! Thanks ALOT! Now if I can figure out how to write my FR fanfiction with Rocky in there, as the the Red Ninja Ranger in a way in which he got them back...

With all due respect to Jiemusu, I don't think Jiemusu touches the depth that Chris Funaro can go into when Chris is in a groove. It's not an insult to Jiemusu, but I think Chris is just like... I dunno, extremely good with his explanations and knowledge. I really don't think very many reach Chris in terms of depth and such (this includes myself... I think Chris could utterly kill me in an explanation/debate over PR).

Not trying to offend or anything but why is it such a waste of time searching for power morphicon videos? I mean,every PR fan cant get enough of them...

It's a little hard to find specific stuff and statments, due to the length of each discussion panel of the PM-con (which means, due to YouTube's video time limits, the panels are broken up into several vids). A few users have put up full panels (or parts of panels), though, which helps a lot. But, even if they put them all up, it's not exactly like everyone has the time to watch every single video and interview. The only reason I watched so many was through my fanboy-ism of ASJ (Austin St. John) and JYB (Johnny Yong Bosch).

Chris3123
12-11-2008, 03:09 AM
He could have worn the Movie Costume, as well...

No, he couldn't have. That costume never existed in the real PR universe.

Red Tyrannosaurus
12-11-2008, 03:15 AM
Wasn't Kim/Billy second-in-command? I mean, Rocky had very little experience to even be like third-in-command or something, let alone second. I otherwise agree with you, though I will say that, in the competition for most underrated ranger, Rocky ties with Carter (IMO, by the way). Rocky still wins in most screwed over ranger.

Well,he controlled the megazord(and have commands in it),Usually summoned the thunderzords and usually stood in the middle whenever tommy was not around in battle.I personaly consider him 2nd in command.

2580
12-11-2008, 07:27 AM
I would've liked to have seen Rocky in Forever Red, but it would've required a really good explanation as to how he could still morph.

Magna Defender
12-11-2008, 09:19 AM
For anyone who had a doubt about rocky,watch this vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAdeETutFh8&feature=related

Bty,JDF said that he preferred Steve(Rocky) in forever red instead Austin (Jason)

SilverTigerRanger
12-11-2008, 09:47 AM
When I watched the episode, I really wished that they could at least have waited one more season. That way Shane could have replaced Eric as the tenth Red Ranger, and the one to begin the second era of Red Rangers (not Cole).

Titanium Ranger
12-11-2008, 02:58 PM
Because there are like 49578743983 of them XD I don't have time to see them all XD

Tbh, it was common knowledge even before the Morphicon that they couldn't get a hold of him somehow. The video MD posted now clears that up.


But yeah, I would've liked to see Rocky in Forever Red. Probably not in place of Jason... you can't take Jason out of Forever Red! But still, he could've been his own.. "Red Ranger power" instead of Tyrannosaurus.. or maybe a special ranger appearance as Red Dragon Ranger?

Lol keeping it realistic, I think his ninjetti form would've worked, like Jiemesu said. Also, I watched that video and I have to say I'm booing JDF right now.

Ernde38
12-11-2008, 05:35 PM
What the hell is JDFs problem!? I wonder what convention that was from? JDF wasn't at Power Morphicon, I don't think...

Jam-Jul Lison
12-11-2008, 09:55 PM
I am glad Rocky wasn't in it. It just would have just raised more questions. Also as much as I liked him in Zeo, I kind of lost my respect for him when he quit in turbo. Yes he was injured and justin had to sub for him. But after his back was getting better, they offered him a chance to take back his place as the blue ranger and he declined. This shows me he didn't want to be a power ranger anymore and was quitting his job as a ranger. Though to be fair, i can kind of understand why now. After all. No Pay, no health insurance, constantly putting your life on the line and having to take orders from a giant head and a robot. Not to mention if it was ever discovered that he was a ranger, he might be the victim of some rather large lawsuits for destruction of public property lol. Also the government might even arrest him for possessing weapons of mass destruction.

Gauntlet_Ranger
12-12-2008, 07:42 PM
well Jason and TJ morphed in FR despite the fact their powers had previously been destroyed. Now Rockys Ninja coin was destroyed but a force powerful enough to return Jason's MMPR and TJ's Turbo Powers could easily resurrect Rocky's Ninja powers.

On the point of Rocky wearing only the Ninja costume he would have been alot weaker then the other Rangers, I suggest Rocky would have worn the MMPR suit with "Metallic Armor Power Up!!" now that would be cool.

Red Tyrannosaurus
12-12-2008, 08:15 PM
Yeah the whole ninja suit is a mid morph state,its like an in between,you have a suit but you dont really have lots of superpowers.

Green Elephant
12-12-2008, 10:15 PM
well Jason and TJ morphed in FR despite the fact their powers had previously been destroyed. Now Rockys Ninja coin was destroyed but a force powerful enough to return Jason's MMPR and TJ's Turbo Powers could easily resurrect Rocky's Ninja powers.

The theory on these is that Jason, Zack and Trini's powers were never destroyed, only their copies (in hands of Rocky, Adam and Aisha) were. For TJ, since Justin got a new morpher from Storm Blaster, TJ could get one from Lightning Cruiser

2580
12-13-2008, 06:53 AM
What the hell is JDFs problem!?

Not all of the actors got along and we shouldn't expect them to. It would be nice to know why Jason David Frank prefers to work with Steve Cardenas, but it's really none of our business.

Jiemusu
12-13-2008, 01:20 PM
The theory on these is that Jason, Zack and Trini's powers were never destroyed, only their copies (in hands of Rocky, Adam and Aisha) were. For TJ, since Justin got a new morpher from Storm Blaster, TJ could get one from Lightning Cruiser

Even that has flaws due to the Power Transfer being called what it is because of the transfer of power, not a dublication of power.

I prefer the idea of a coin dublication and a power transfer. So that Jason, Zack and Trini effectively had useless and powerless coins that still existed as an object. Due to the Z Wave, Zordon's goodness within his energy restored (possibly temporary) the powerless coins of Jason, Zack and Trini. Hence why Jason used his in 'Forever Red'.

Think of what happened to Tommy's Dragon coin in 'Return of An Old Friend', just on a much larger scale.

Ernde38
12-13-2008, 09:12 PM
well Jason and TJ morphed in FR despite the fact their powers had previously been destroyed. Now Rockys Ninja coin was destroyed but a force powerful enough to return Jason's MMPR and TJ's Turbo Powers could easily resurrect Rocky's Ninja powers.

On the point of Rocky wearing only the Ninja costume he would have been alot weaker then the other Rangers, I suggest Rocky would have worn the MMPR suit with "Metallic Armor Power Up!!" now that would be cool.

Neither one of their powers was destroyed. Jason kept his power coin, and transferred some of his power to Rocky's power coin. Rocky's weren't destroyed either. They were badly damaged with the destruction of the Thunderzords.

The Turbo powers weren't destroyed. They were knocked offline when the Power Chamber exploded. The source was from Eltar, not the Power Chamber.

Jiemusu
12-13-2008, 11:48 PM
Neither one of their powers was destroyed. Jason kept his power coin, and transferred some of his power to Rocky's power coin. Rocky's weren't destroyed either. They were badly damaged with the destruction of the Thunderzords.

If energy did remain in Jason's coin after the transfer, IMHO it's not enough to full sustain a morph as easily as he did in Forever Red, and he wouldn't have been able to have maintained the form as easily as he did. Something else helped him, which is where I bring the Z Wave in.

But this idea of some of the 'full power' being left behind does explain why Rocky's powers were weaker than Jason's.

Also, one thing I want to mention about discussing Rocky's Red Ranger coin. He had two. Tyrannosaurus and his Ninja coin.

Rocky's Tyrannosaurus coin (as well as Dino coins from Billy, Aisha, Tommy, and Kimberly) suffered the exact same fate as Adam's did when we saw it in PRIS. The object of the coin exists, but the power sustained in the morpher aided the morph, hence why the chances of it literally killing the user with an unstable overload of energy are pretty high, so it's not recommended "using" it. All of the second half MMPR2 team is in the same state, minus Adam because the Sentinal Knight restored his coin to full power (plotdevice hax). The object of Rocky's Dino coin still exists though. Also, if you're wondering why the Z Wave could work on Jason, Zack and Trini's coin, and not the other rangers of MMPR2, is because the latter's coins and powers were (in a nutshell) damanged beyond (seemly) repair, where Jason, Zack and Trini's (technically) were not. If you break a cell phone, you can't charge it, think of it that way.

Rocky's Ninja Coin was literally destroyed, no more, with no more power. Logically I'd be interested to see how they pulled this off, if Steve could make it to return as the part of Rocky. But logically speaking, Rocky shouldn't have his ninjetti powers.

Ernde38
12-14-2008, 12:03 AM
If energy did remain in Jason's coin after the transfer, IMHO it's not enough to full sustain a morph as easily as he did in Forever Red, and he wouldn't have been able to have maintained the form as easily as he did. Something else helped him, which is where I bring the Z Wave in.

But this idea of some of the 'full power' being left behind does explain why Rocky's powers were weaker than Jason's.

Also, one thing I want to mention about discussing Rocky's Red Ranger coin. He had two. Tyrannosaurus and his Ninja coin.

Rocky's Tyrannosaurus coin (as well as Dino coins from Billy, Aisha, Tommy, and Kimberly) suffered the exact same fate as Adam's did when we saw it in PRIS. The object of the coin exists, but the power sustained in the morpher aided the morph, hence why the chances of it literally killing the user with an unstable overload of energy are pretty high, so it's not recommended "using" it. All of the second half MMPR2 team is in the same state, minus Adam because the Sentinal Knight restored his coin to full power (plotdevice hax). The object of Rocky's Dino coin still exists though. Also, if you're wondering why the Z Wave could work on Jason, Zack and Trini's coin, and not the other rangers of MMPR2, is because the latter's coins and powers were (in a nutshell) damanged beyond (seemly) repair, where Jason, Zack and Trini's (technically) were not. If you break a cell phone, you can't charge it, think of it that way.

Rocky's Ninja Coin was literally destroyed, no more, with no more power. Logically I'd be interested to see how they pulled this off, if Steve could make it to return as the part of Rocky. But logically speaking, Rocky shouldn't have his ninjetti powers.

Fan legend Chris Funaro/ Cmdr. Crayfish said he was only going to make a cameo appearance as a "manservant" to Tommy, much like Bulk and Skull did.

I'm currently working on a fanfic involving Rocky and his Ninja Ranger Power. I'm a believer in that they (the Ninja Rangers from MMPRS3) can still use that form, because the Ninja Animal Spirits will always be connected with them, which is what allowed them to use Ninja Ranger Power, not the Power Coins.

Jiemusu
12-14-2008, 12:07 AM
Fan legend Chris Funaro/ Cmdr. Crayfish said he was only going to make a cameo appearance as a "manservant" to Tommy, much like Bulk and Skull did.

That would have sucked, bad.

I'm currently working on a fanfic involving Rocky and his Ninja Ranger Power. I'm a believer in that they (the Ninja Rangers from MMPRS3) can still use that form, because the Ninja Animal Spirits will always be connected with them, which is what allowed them to use Ninja Ranger Power, not the Power Coins.

Sounds awesome.

In theory they would have still had their ninjetti spirits, had Vile not turned back time. More plotdevice hax they were desperate to through in at the end.

Ernde38
12-14-2008, 12:27 AM
That would have sucked, bad.

Yes, it would've. LOL. Even though I wasn't a fan of his during his tenure as Red Ranger, he grew on me during Zeo (it also helps I hated the Justin character and would've preferred Rocky for half the season). I still wish he would've been involved in the episode, as a Red Ranger, some how. Hence the fanfic, which involves "Forever Red".



Sounds awesome.

In theory they would have still had their ninjetti spirits, had Vile not turned back time. More plotdevice hax they were desperate to through in at the end.

Even though we thought they couldn't use Ninja Ranger Power after things were returned to normal by the Zeo Crystal, it's apparent that even though they effectively never gained the Ninja Power Coins, and they never existed thanks to their destruction the past, no matter what, the Ninja Animal spirits were still connected to them based on this evidence:

In the MMAR episode "Along Came a Spider", Kai-Ogi told Young Adam that he (Kai) was able to sense the Spirit of the Frog within Adam. Even though the Power Coins had been destroyed 4 episodes earlier.

In the MMAR episode "Sowing the Seeds of Evil", a young Native American girl pointed to a Falcon in the sky as Tommy looked up at it.

And finally, in the PRZ episode "Challenges", a Falcon appeared on the arm of Sam Truehart from "White" mist. It then disappeared into more White mist, then appeared from White mist in the sky. Sam then sent Tommy on a vision quest with the Falcon as his guid, and told him that when he touches the Falcon, he would have the answers he was looking for. Tommy's brother David (after Tommy saved him instead of touching the Falcon) told Tommy that the Spirit of the Falcon led Tommy to him.

Therefore, my theory suggests that they'll always be able to use Ninja Ranger Power, since the Power Coins didn't have much, if anything, to do with Ninja Ranger Power. The had to do with Power Ranger Power.

Jiemusu
12-14-2008, 08:41 PM
Wait, I forgot to quote these.

Also, I watched that video and I have to say I'm booing JDF right now.

What the hell is JDFs problem!? I wonder what convention that was from? JDF wasn't at Power Morphicon, I don't think...

Not all of the actors got along and we shouldn't expect them to. It would be nice to know why Jason David Frank prefers to work with Steve Cardenas, but it's really none of our business.

JDF is a jerk, he's been a jerk since his early days on the set in MMPR, he's been a jerk all the way through that, and is still a jerk now. He'll always be a jerk. People find it hard to believe JDF can be such a p***k sometimes, but I don't see what's odd about it, he's always been like that.

2580
12-15-2008, 02:06 AM
JDF is a jerk, he's been a jerk since his early days on the set in MMPR, he's been a jerk all the way through that, and is still a jerk now. He'll always be a jerk. People find it hard to believe JDF can be such a p***k sometimes, but I don't see what's odd about it, he's always been like that.

You're coming to this conclusion based on a small fraction of his life. I'm not one of his fans and I don't approve of how he's stepped on the toes of Austin St. John, Walter Jones, Thuy Trang, and David Yost (well, maybe a little when it comes to Yost), but I'm not going to say that he's a jerk in general. I'd say that he was a jerk sometimes as an actor on PR, but that's as far as I'm willing to go because that's all I really know about him.

Red Tyrannosaurus
12-15-2008, 03:12 AM
JDF is a jerk, he's been a jerk since his early days on the set in MMPR, he's been a jerk all the way through that, and is still a jerk now. He'll always be a jerk. People find it hard to believe JDF can be such a p***k sometimes, but I don't see what's odd about it, he's always been like that.

Have you seen the behind the scenes video wich shows JDF's middle finger pointed at david yost's face?...priceless.

Ao Ultimate
12-15-2008, 06:16 AM
If Rocky were to be in Forever Red, he would be the Red Ninja Ranger, which in reality is the only thing that makes since because they wouldn't have two Mighty Morphin' Red running around, even if he was in the armored-suit form MMPR: The Movie.

Paulie explained why JDF wasn't at Power Morphicon at the Bulk and Skull Booth...as for behind the scenes stuff...they are all adults now and I'm sure if you got Jason and David in a room together it would probably be like things were all good as they have both matured and shouldn't be holding onto any grudges for things that happened more then ten years ago. Me personally, I think people put some much on JDF becuase of how he was portay in Power Rangers altogether. If he was to have left it at the Green Ranger like originally planned, done Cybertron and possible onto other things, he would barely get some much notoriety as he does today. I don't think JDF hates Power Rangers but if he does hate it, I think it is becuase of the fans always bashing and bad-mouthing him.

Ernde38
12-15-2008, 02:18 PM
If Rocky were to be in Forever Red, he would be the Red Ninja Ranger, which in reality is the only thing that makes since because they wouldn't have two Mighty Morphin' Red running around, even if he was in the armored-suit form MMPR: The Movie.

Paulie explained why JDF wasn't at Power Morphicon at the Bulk and Skull Booth...as for behind the scenes stuff...they are all adults now and I'm sure if you got Jason and David in a room together it would probably be like things were all good as they have both matured and shouldn't be holding onto any grudges for things that happened more then ten years ago. Me personally, I think people put some much on JDF becuase of how he was portay in Power Rangers altogether. If he was to have left it at the Green Ranger like originally planned, done Cybertron and possible onto other things, he would barely get some much notoriety as he does today. I don't think JDF hates Power Rangers but if he does hate it, I think it is becuase of the fans always bashing and bad-mouthing him.

I'll have to get on YouTube and watch the B&S booth then. I don't recall why they said he wasn't there...

Jiemusu
12-15-2008, 06:27 PM
Red Tyrannosaurus: Yeah I saw that video, it's actually what I based my opinions on. JDF was a jerk on the set, and he's a jerk to other actors behind their back.

I don't think JDF hates Power Rangers but if he does hate it, I think it is becuase of the fans always bashing and bad-mouthing him.

He probably only uses his PR days as a means to boost his dojos up.

Ao Ultimate
12-15-2008, 08:40 PM
I don't think that's true...he's a great martial artist and the fact that he was on Power Rangers just amplifies it.

Jiemusu
12-15-2008, 08:54 PM
I don't think that's true...he's a great martial artist and the fact that he was on Power Rangers just amplifies it.

So how does that mean it's not true, wouldn't his career in PR amplifying anything actually boost his dojo? I don't see how him being a good martial artist would stop publicity from his PR days affecting the reputation and popularity of his dojos. "Yeah, everyone wants to train with a former Power Ranger."

Just saying, if he didn't have his PR career, and just his skills, do you think many early fans of martial arts, who grew up watching PR, would be as interested to the levels they are in this reality?

What I'm saying is, if he didn't have PR, his dojos wouldn't have been as popular as they were. He uses PR in advertising for his dojo to boost up the popularity.

Ao Ultimate
12-15-2008, 11:06 PM
Even if that's true...would you not do the same?

Jiemusu
12-15-2008, 11:21 PM
Even if that's true...would you not do the same?

In joint with acting like a jerk to cast members while on the set for MMPR, then complaing about them later, when the show would practically become about me for three seasons, so I would have nothing to really criticize?

Probably not. It doesn't seem like something I'd do.

Ao Ultimate
12-16-2008, 01:12 AM
JDF wasn't a jerk onset...he just joked around alot. That doesn't constitiute him as being a jerk. As for the middle finger thing to David Yost, I'm sure that was just him playing around too but not everyone is always in the mode for it and I'm sure he's apologized for incidents like this or any others he's done.

Jiemusu
12-16-2008, 04:15 PM
They both add up to the same thing. While joking around, he was acting like a jerk, with almost no consideration for any other cast member. He often went too far, and by the looks of it didn't really change his attitude much.

Ernde38
12-16-2008, 06:59 PM
They both add up to the same thing. While joking around, he was acting like a jerk, with almost no consideration for any other cast member. He often went too far, and by the looks of it didn't really change his attitude much.

I wonder how he treated the PRDT cast?

Rebelde
12-16-2008, 08:48 PM
yeah, I think that's why I don't like Tommy :/ lol
because his actor isn't the nicest dude..and that season 2/3 was aaaaall about him :/
Oh well..

Kazyya
12-17-2008, 04:42 AM
I am really surprised no one thought they would have rewrote the script. In my eyes they probably would have had the story be two episodes long and in the first episode it would have been Rocky getting hurt among all the other red rangers in the battle and the red rangers go on the brink of defeat. In the second episode Tommy finds himself wondering what to do and then his mentor the true original red ranger Jason shows up and takes lead(as he rightfully should) and shows that the original red ranger with or without the dragon shield is still the best and leads the rangers into victory.