Biggest Plot Hole

[RyanRXP]

What do you think is the biggest plot hole in Power Ranger history?
My choice is Tommy getting his doctorate in only 6 years.

[TheRoyalKnight]

the Zeo Powers what even happened to them

[Jiemusu]

The truth behind Jason's morph in Forever Red. This has to be the biggest plothole in the PR fandom.

[RyanRXP]

the Zeo Powers what even happened to them

The truth behind Jason's morph in Forever Red. This has to be the biggest plothole in the PR fandom.

I think this is off to a great start.

[SteelSpaceRanger]

Not the biggest, but still significant, TJ's morph in forever red. how did he get his powers back.

[Jiemusu]

Not the biggest, but still significant, TJ's morph in forever red. how did he get his powers back.

Well Justin got his morpher back in PRIS, and TJ 'was' technically on Earth where the morpher was in Forever Red. It sort of makes sense to me.

[TheRoyalKnight]

Not the biggest, but still significant, TJ's morph in forever red. how did he get his powers back.

maybe the same way justin did

[Omega Sixteen]

...how, from a scientific standpoint, a glowing orb of I don't really care what can heal someone completely who was likely in the ICU.

[Rebelde]

THRAX was the biggest plot hole..enough said xD

[Jiemusu]

THRAX was the biggest plot hole..enough said xD

Actually, that is a huge plothole. Either he was born 10,000 years ago and was mummified in a sense untill his resurrection. Or he was born sometime during the Zordon Era and we were never bothered to be informed.

[Rebelde]

Actually, that is a huge plothole. Either he was born 10,000 years ago and was mummified in a sense untill his resurrection. Or he was born sometime during the Zordon Era and we were never bothered to be informed.

if he was born during the Zordon era..I believe that he would have looked SO much younger XD tbh xD

[Jiemusu]

if he was born during the Zordon era..I believe that he would have looked SO much younger XD tbh xD

That's why he's a plothole. I mean we could say that, due to the whole life he's had, he looks older due to the harshness. Then again, the rangers themselves look 30 years old when they're trying to pass for high school students (=p).

[Rebelde]

Lol, true xD xD

[Legendary.]

Actually, that is a huge plothole. Either he was born 10,000 years ago and was mummified in a sense untill his resurrection. Or he was born sometime during the Zordon Era and we were never bothered to be informed.

They never said how old he was did they?

[Rebelde]

They never said how old he was did they?

no, but he looked quite old..

and when we saw him escape from the dumbster, he said "After ALL THESE years, I'm free!" ....it wasn't THAT long

[Legendary.]

lol But still Alien's could age really weird.

And he could've been adopted or something in the nature of that degree.

[Jiemusu]

Most alien species in PR will live for 10,000 years and only look 20 or 30 sometimes. It just seems odd that Thrax would look 30 if he was born sometime near Countdown to Destruction.

I still believe he was born 10,000. It's actually a theory of mine of why Rita hates the Power Rangers and hates dinosaurs. It links her character more to her Zyuranger counterpart.

In Zyuranger, Bandora's son was killed by dinosaurs, and this was why Bandora raged war on dinosaurs and the Zyurangers. So, my theory is. Rita conceived Thrax long ago, 10,000 years ago (Zedd as the father? An ancient relationship between the two was indicated) before she was sealed in the dumpster. Believing Thrax was killed by dinosaurs, Rita swore to dispose of anything dinosaur related (Power Rangers) and turned into a villain. Later we would learn that Thrax was not killed, mearly mummified and sealed by the Sentinal Knight until he was resurrected later.

[GForce]

Maybe Thrax was born around Zeo.

[Jiemusu]

We would have seen 'something' or at least had some sort of indication.

[Izout]

In MMPRS3, we were told that Ninjor and his Temple are key parts of the rangers' new power, and that if either one falls into Evil's hands, their power will be lost.

And then Ninjor falls into Evil's hands and their powers are perfectly fine.

[doomranger]

in mf Chip should be a knight but it was plot hole joke

[fire wolf ranger]

The truth behind Jason's morph in Forever Red. This has to be the biggest plothole in the PR fandom.

As far as this plothole stands,there are four popular theroies that I have heard.

#1. During his time as the gold ranger, Rocky returns Jasons coin to him.The Gold Rangers power not only repairs the coin,but reenergizes it.

#2. Zordon had Alpha repair the coin and then Zordon gave it a tempoary recharge.

#3. Zordons energy wave fully restores all the lost ranger powers.

#4. Tommy and Andros use some of the limitless energy of the red Zeo crystal to restore Jasons powers.

As far as my opinion on the biggest plothole? Its a tie between when the hell was Thrax born,and how the hell did Alpha 6 wind up on earth and taller?:confused:

[Jiemusu]

As far as this plothole stands,there are four popular theroies that I have heard.

#1. During his time as the gold ranger, Rocky returns Jasons coin to him.The Gold Rangers power not only repairs the coin,but reenergizes it.

Seems logical, I mean they were in contact. Except Rocky's Tyrannosaurus coin was practically destroyed, and would be in the same state as Adam's in Power Rangers In Space. Zordon wasn't able to truely energize the Green Ranger coin. Only the Sentinal Knight seems to be one of the few warriors we know of that can perform such an act.

#2. Zordon had Alpha repair the coin and then Zordon gave it a tempoary recharge.

Again, I personally question if Zordon has that kind of power. But if it's temporary, I guess it's possible, for one battle (episode). Meaning Jason cannot morph again.

#3. Zordons energy wave fully restores all the lost ranger powers.

The Z Wave theory, one of the most popular explanations. To me it seems flawed, as there was no indication that it would restore the powers, only that it would wipe out evil.

#4. Tommy and Andros use some of the limitless energy of the red Zeo crystal to restore Jasons powers.

Never heard this one, and I personally don't think the Zeo Crystal could do that.

I thought the fourth one would be the cloning of the Tyrannosaurus, Mastadon and SabreTooth Tiger coins in the Power Transfer.

As far as my opinion on the biggest plothole? Its a tie between when the hell was Thrax born,and how the hell did Alpha 6 wind up on earth and taller?:confused:

Lol Thrax is defiantly one, mentioned earlier in this thread. The Alpha 6 one too is confusing, I'll count this one as a major plothole aswell.

[Izout]

Eh, Jason got his Red Ranger powers back by defeating the evil Red Ranger from the comic books. (Ask Chris Funaro aka Cmder Crayfish about this. He knows more about this than I do.)

[Jiemusu]

Eh, Jason got his Red Ranger powers back by defeating the evil Red Ranger from the comic books. (Ask Chris Funaro aka Cmder Crayfish about this. He knows more about this than I do.)

Are those things even canon?

[DaiRed]

1. Thrax
2. How did Alpha 6 get back to Earth from Mirinoi?
3. How did Bulk get back to Earth from Mirinoi?
4. Whatever happened to the Zeo powers and zords?
5. Where are Tor and Titanus?

[Izout]

Are those things even canon?

Eh, according to Chris whose friends with Amit Bhaumik who was the story editor for WF and the guy who wrote Reinforcements From the Future and Forever Red, that's how Jason got his power's back.

[Jiemusu]

Eh, according to Chris whose friends with Amit Bhaumik who was the story editor for WF and the guy who wrote Reinforcements From the Future and Forever Red, that's how Jason got his power's back.

Well just because he's the friend of someone who helped on Wild Force doesn't automatically mean his information is canon. But I'll give these comics a whirl.

[Ryufire_Ultimate_Mode_2]

First, I have to agree That Thrax is a Major Plothole that needed to be explained.

Second (and third), another plothole is who really created Turbo Zords, and how did the rangers the turbo power so fast, even though none of them had ever created power ranger powers before (Zordon and Alpha didn't really do that much when the rangers created them. Hell, Zordon himself implied that nethier he nor Alpha [Alpha might have at least have built the actual morphers, and might have helped some in the overall creation of the turbo powers] had created them when he{Zordon} said this in the movie, "The Powers YOU are now creating", which implied that the rangers themselves created them). Yes, I'm aware that Billy was supposed to have created the Zords at the very least and proably the powers too, but seeing as he was written out of the show the Zords seems like they were just unintended bonuses for creating the powers. I mean, the when the rangers first see the Zords, they acted like they didn't know where the came from or never even saw the blueprints for them.

That ends my rant.

[Izout]

Well just because he's the friend of someone who helped on Wild Force doesn't automatically mean his information is canon. But I'll give these comics a whirl.

Never said it was canon, just that's the closes you're going to get an answer on how Jason got his powers back.

[Jiemusu]

Never said it was canon, just that's the closes you're going to get an answer on how Jason got his powers back.

Oh I get you now.

I've always gone with the cloned coin theory though, it seems to be the most logical IMO.

[RyanRXP]

#1. During his time as the gold ranger, Rocky returns Jasons coin to him.The Gold Rangers power not only repairs the coin,but reenergizes it.

The Gold Ranger Powers were just as strong as the whole Zeo Crystal, so I'd say that was probable. The only problem is that the coin was destroyed. However, if you take a power source with that much power, with Ninjor's help it is not hard to believe that they could have replaced the coin.

[fire wolf ranger]

The Gold Ranger Powers were just as strong as the whole Zeo Crystal, so I'd say that was probable. The only problem is that the coin was destroyed. However, if you take a power source with that much power, with Ninjor's help it is not hard to believe that they could have replaced the coin.

The ninja coins were compleatly destroyed.As we seen in "Always a chance"
Adams mastadon coin and morpher was damaged. Also is there a link to the comics online?

[RyanRXP]

The ninja coins were compleatly destroyed.As we seen in "Always a chance"
Adams mastadon coin and morpher was damaged. Also is there a link to the comics online?

It is posible that for the mission they found Trey and he used the Gold Ranger powers, they didn't have to use the powers in Zeo.

[King]

Biggest plot hole is that Zack all of a sudden had 10 fingers when morphed.

[Hear All]

Biggest plot hole is that Zack all of a sudden had 10 fingers when morphed.

LOL

Thrax is the biggest plot hole, they could have gave us a timeline of when he was born or something!

[Jiemusu]

Thrax is the biggest plot hole, they could have gave us a timeline of when he was born or something!

If several members are saying this same thing after the other. It pretty much qualifies for the biggest plothole.

[wadeinthewater]

What do you think is the biggest plot hole in Power Ranger history?
My choice is Tommy getting his doctorate in only 6 years.

The quest he went on for 18 episodes in Zeo helped him with that.

[RyanRXP]

The quest he went on for 18 episodes in Zeo helped him with that.

I thought you said it went on for 834 episodes?

[wadeinthewater]

I thought you said it went on for 834 episodes?

It might as well have been...it took 3 months to get through that set of episodes..made me mad...:mad:

[Ernde38]

1. Thrax
2. Turbo Powers creation
3. Morph's from MMPR-PRT (minus MMAR) in "Forever Red" - although I think there are easy explanations for each

Morph Explanations:
Jason - The Tyrannosaurus Dino Coin was never physically destroyed. It, along with the morphing grid was only damaged (watch the "Ninja Quest" three parter again) when Alpha 5 was trying to give the Thunderzords more power, but when Rito attacked the zords, it overloaded the grid, permanently damaging the zords, as well as damaging the power coins - this is proved twice, Adam morph's with the Mastodon Coin in Power Rangers in Space, and again in Power Rangers: Operation Overdrive. We can probably assume that when Jason returned to become the Gold Ranger, Rocky gave him back the Tyrannosaurus Dino Coin.

Tommy - The Zeo Crystal was never physically destroyed either, so this is the easiest one to figure out because with the crystal never destroyed, the rangers could morph at their own free will as long as they still had the Zeonizers.

TJ - The Turbo morphers weren't destroyed either. Storm Blaster and Lightning Cruiser were somehow able to get ahold of the Turbo morphers, and TJ was able to use it to morph.

[Izout]

I don't see how the Turbo powers creation is a plothole, they said the keys were model after Lerigot's golden key with the source being Eltar.

[Green_With_Evil]

1. Thrax


If they wanted to fix this plothole, all they'd have to do is include time travel. The plotholes in the Power Ranger series are really not that hard to fix if the creators just give it some thought.

[Jiemusu]

Disney and Kalish lol? Doubt it.

Morph Explanations:
Jason - The Tyrannosaurus Dino Coin was never physically destroyed. It, along with the morphing grid was only damaged (watch the "Ninja Quest" three parter again) when Alpha 5 was trying to give the Thunderzords more power, but when Rito attacked the zords, it overloaded the grid, permanently damaging the zords, as well as damaging the power coins - this is proved twice, Adam morph's with the Mastodon Coin in Power Rangers in Space, and again in Power Rangers: Operation Overdrive. We can probably assume that when Jason returned to become the Gold Ranger, Rocky gave him back the Tyrannosaurus Dino Coin.

These are basically what I've heard on the matter.


During Jason's time as the Gold Ranger, Rocky returns the Tyrannosaurus coin to him. The Gold Rangers power not only repair the coin, but re-energizes it. They were in contact throughout Zeo. Except Rocky's Tyrannosaurus coin was practically destroyed, and would be in the same state as Adam's in Power Rangers In Space. Zordon wasn't able to truely energize the Green Ranger coin. Only the Sentinal Knight seems to be one of the few warriors we know of that can perform such an act.


Alpha repaired the coin and then, like he did with Tommy's coin, Zordon recharged Jason's coin for the timebeing. This would be during Zeo.


Zordons energy wave in the finale of PRIS fully restores all the lost ranger powers. The Z Wave theory, one of the most popular explanations. To me it seems flawed, as there was no indication that it would restore the powers, only that it would wipe out evil.


Tommy and Andros use some of the limitless energy of the Zeo crystal to restore Jasons powers.


The cloning of the Tyrannosaurus, Mastadon and SabreTooth Tiger coins in the Power Transfer.

[Titanium Ranger]

IMO, Thrax was only an excuse for a teamup, so not surprisingly he didn't get much thought. They wanted some connection to the retro PR and they brought forth Zedd and Rita's son, which was fine by me. At least they took on the children of the retro rangers/villains concept. I'd worry about him if he was a series regular villain (which I was hoping to see for while). Else it'll be something like Forever Red, with Serpentera and Beetleborgs and the plotholes in that episode.

[BRIDGEtte]

THRAX was the biggest plot hole..enough said xD
:D SPD-fury, you hit it right on the head!

[Red Master]

Tharx is not a plot hole.Time travel isn't needed for him to be explained.
Rita,Zedd pretty much like most villians in the PR univerese are immortal.They don't die of old age.They only die if they are destroied or are made human.
It not impossible for them to have had a fling,rita giving birth to him,then both of them forgetting about him since their villians i.e. bad parents. (Rita was stuck in a dumpster with Goldar,Finster,Squatt & Babbo for 10Thousand years.Wouldn't you be more occupied with getting the fuck outta their.Zedd was like a Biker asshole who just wanted to ride around the univeres and being a jerk to everyone.) And i stress this next fact the most,you do not need to be married to have children.I don't know why people are so jaded to think its impossible for then to have had a child before their married.
And since Thraxs battle with Sentinel Kinght took place just before SK scattered the crown and jewels on earth,Thrax is millions of years old,not ten thousand.
What baffles me even more is that we never see or hear of 98% of the rangers parents or even most of the villians origins,yet everyone accepts that they exist and don't even question it.As soon a Thrax is mentioned most people cry "WTF...thats bullshit"

People over look other actual plot holes like......
Kendrix dies...then comes back in the last episode acting like all that happend was she went to the bathroom and took a long shit.
or
When Sam travels back in time he ends up with an energy form.Yet every other ranger that time travels are left unchanged.Why only Sam.
or
How is Alex able to tell the other Time Force rangers that Wes dided in the battle after he sent them back to their time.If Wes is his ancestor and he died,Alex shouldn't exist to be able to tell them he died.In general TF is just a bunch of paradoxes.

[Green ranger]

for me the biggest plot hole is the return to Earth in lightspeed rescue for in Quasar Quest it seemed that the Earth was finished and that why Terra venture was built to take nearly everyone to a new world so why all of sudden is Earth back in the limelight for all future Power rangers stories?

[Jiemusu]

Tharx is not a plot hole.Time travel isn't needed for him to be explained.
Rita,Zedd pretty much like most villians in the PR univerese are immortal.They don't die of old age.They only die if they are destroied or are made human.
It not impossible for them to have had a fling,rita giving birth to him,then both of them forgetting about him since their villians i.e. bad parents. (Rita was stuck in a dumpster with Goldar,Finster,Squatt & Babbo for 10Thousand years.Wouldn't you be more occupied with getting the fuck outta their.Zedd was like a Biker asshole who just wanted to ride around the univeres and being a jerk to everyone.) And i stress this next fact the most,you do not need to be married to have children.I don't know why people are so jaded to think its impossible for then to have had a child before their married.
And since Thraxs battle with Sentinel Kinght took place just before SK scattered the crown and jewels on earth,Thrax is millions of years old,not ten thousand.
What baffles me even more is that we never see or hear of 98% of the rangers parents or even most of the villians origins,yet everyone accepts that they exist and don't even question it.As soon a Thrax is mentioned most people cry "WTF...thats bullshit"

Someone missed their bed time...

Anyway, if it's not explained, it's a plothole, simply because it's a hole in the plot because it was never explained in the show. Regardless of whether people have theories on it or not, it's officially a plothole.

[King]

Anyway, if it's not explained, it's a plothole, simply because it's a hole in the plot because it was never explained in the show. Regardless of whether people have theories on it or not, it's officially a plothole.

Thats not true. A plot hole is something that can't happen in a story because of something already established in the storyline. For example, if Tommy's video from DT showed him as the white ranger first instead of the Green Ranger then that is a plot hole because it was established already in the story that Tommy was the green ranger first. Thrax's existence isn't something that goes against the storyline. Especially since we know Rita and Zedd knew each other thousands of years before MMPR ever happened.

[TheRoyalKnight]

for me the biggest plot hole is the return to Earth in lightspeed rescue for in Quasar Quest it seemed that the Earth was finished and that why Terra venture was built to take nearly everyone to a new world so why all of sudden is Earth back in the limelight for all future Power rangers stories?

i doubt it took all of earths popultaion with it only a select few

[Red Master]

Ryuk Ori
I still believe he was born 10,000. It's actually a theory of mine of why Rita hates the Power Rangers and hates dinosaurs. It links her character more to her Zyuranger counterpart.

In Zyuranger, Bandora's son was killed by dinosaurs, and this was why Bandora raged war on dinosaurs and the Zyurangers. So, my theory is. Rita conceived Thrax long ago, 10,000 years ago (Zedd as the father? An ancient relationship between the two was indicated) before she was sealed in the dumpster. Believing Thrax was killed by dinosaurs, Rita swore to dispose of anything dinosaur related (Power Rangers) and turned into a villain. Later we would learn that Thrax was not killed, mearly mummified and sealed by the Sentinal Knight until he was resurrected later.

So i use entirely PR known canon to put my theory together,you use half Senti/half PR canon to put your theory together and their both non valid.WTF!Are you on crack?
So i guess by your logic Theo and RJ are brothers because of geki ranger.

[Jiemusu]

So i use entirely PR known canon to put my theory together,you use half Senti/half PR canon to put your theory together and their both non valid.WTF!Are you on crack?
So i guess by your logic Theo and RJ are brothers because of geki ranger.

Not really, you kind of missed the point.

Saban usually copies a large chunk of Sentai in order to adapt, they may have adopted alot more of Sentai than we know, but failed to explain. They tend to adapt more than they change.

Using the Theo and RJ point there to try and post against me almost worked, except it was actually contradicted by a change that Disney made from Sentai. So it's not the same thing, I'll give you kudos though.

[Green_With_Evil]

And i stress this next fact the most,you do not need to be married to have children.I don't know why people are so jaded to think its impossible for then to have had a child before their married.


If this dealt with reality, I would agree with you. But seeing as it is a kids' show, I can hardly see the creators even remotely referring to pre-marital sex. Does it happen in today's world? All the time. Hell, high school kids are constantly getting frisky with each other. But this is Disney we're talking about, here. Considering that they try to steer away from anything really dealing with sex, especially in Power Rangers, it's easy to assume that Thrax is indeed a plothole rather than the illegitimate son of two (at the time) unmarried people.
One way I'd like to explain Thrax, and not cross Disney's "family-safe zone," involves genetics. Basically, a splicing of Zedd's and Rita's DNA would have produced Thrax. He would be the two combined, essentially an offspring as it were. It's the same as the whole Boba/Jango thing from Star Wars: Boba is a clone of Jango, but both consider Boba as Jango's son, not copy.
I was going to take the time travel route; Zedd and Rita go back in time for some foul deed, and end up having Thrax. But that route has too many holes that could be poked into it, and really doesn't work.

[2580]

As far as Jason's fully-functional powers in Forever Red, I subscribe to the theory that Ryuk Ori does, which is that the Black, Red, and Yellow Power Coins were cloned by the Sword of Light. I realize that it was impossible for the producers of the show to do a demorph because the actors were already gone, but the fact still remains that they didn't demorph and whatever happens outside of the show is ultimately irrelevant. Tommy demorphed when he gave the Green Power Coin to Jason and all of the others demorphed when they gave their Power Coins to Goldar.

As far as the Zeo Crystal is concerned, look no further than Zordon's famous words, "Rangers, the power of the Zeo Crystal now resides within you." In fact, if you watch the clip you can see the subcrystals energize and enter their bodies. Even if the Zeo Crystal was separate from them, it did survive the destruction of the Command Center fully intact, so it could certainly do the same in the event of the Power Chamber's destruction.

Just as it's presumed that Storm Blaster allowed Justin to morph again in PRiS, it can also be presumed that Lightning Cruiser allowed T.J. to morph again in Forever Red. Then again, the power source of the Turbo powers was never actually specified. Some have speculated that the Turbo powers were built upon the foundation of the Zeo powers, but if that were true, then it wouldn't be possible for both Tommy and T.J. to morph in Forever Red.

I think the biggest plothole in PR history is how the Turbo, Astro, Lightspeed, and Time Force powers weren't explained. Just what is their power source? Do they originate from the Morphing Grid like the Mighty Morphin, Operation Overdrive, and Jungle Fury powers?

[Question]

Thats not true. A plot hole is something that can't happen in a story because of something already established in the storyline. For example, if Tommy's video from DT showed him as the white ranger first instead of the Green Ranger then that is a plot hole because it was established already in the story that Tommy was the green ranger first. Thrax's existence isn't something that goes against the storyline. Especially since we know Rita and Zedd knew each other thousands of years before MMPR ever happened.

More people need to read and understand this comment.

Simply not being explained does not make something a plothole. A plothole is something that goes against the previously established logic and consistency of the story and the universe.

TJ being able to morph in FR is not a plothole. We've seen a Turbo power being recreated, by Storm Blaster. Jason being able to morph is not a plothole. We've seen at least five different ways for someone to receive a Power Coin, at least two of which were the creation of new coins. It may have happened offscreen, but that doesn't make it a plothole.

Someone pointed out Ninjor being captured by evil and the Ninja Coins still working as a plothole. That is indeed a plothole, as it contradicts previously established rules of the PR Universe.

(Of course, if this thread was simply mistitled and we're supposed to be talking about unexplained events that happened, that's all well and good. I'm just nitpicky.)

[Jiemusu]

Someone with moderating privileges should rename this thread then, Wolf Ranger or DarkBlaze I'm looking at you.

[Green_With_Evil]

More people need to read and understand this comment.

Simply not being explained does not make something a plothole. A plothole is something that goes against the previously established logic and consistency of the story and the universe.

TJ being able to morph in FR is not a plothole. We've seen a Turbo power being recreated, by Storm Blaster. Jason being able to morph is not a plothole. We've seen at least five different ways for someone to receive a Power Coin, at least two of which were the creation of new coins. It may have happened offscreen, but that doesn't make it a plothole.

Someone pointed out Ninjor being captured by evil and the Ninja Coins still working as a plothole. That is indeed a plothole, as it contradicts previously established rules of the PR Universe.

(Of course, if this thread was simply mistitled and we're supposed to be talking about unexplained events that happened, that's all well and good. I'm just nitpicky.)


You, good sir, live up to your username.

[RyanRXP]

(Of course, if this thread was simply mistitled and we're supposed to be talking about unexplained events that happened, that's all well and good. I'm just nitpicky.)

This thread was not mistitled. People just started talking about things they don't understand. I started off with the example of Tommy getting such a high degree in such a short amount of time, while when we last saw him he was entirely devoted to racing. How do you go from that to getting a doctorate in only 6 years? You can't. Thus it was started with a plot hole, don't blame the title for people missunderstanding a word.
Hope this informs you about my intentions and title.

[Question]

To be fair, I edited that in without reading over your original post because I'm very lazy. My apologies if I offended you in any way.

[RyanRXP]

To be fair, I edited that in without reading over your original post because I'm very lazy. My apologies if I offended you in any way.

Wasn't picking on you, just silencing the mistitled talk.

[Red Master]

Ryuk Ori
Not really, you kind of missed the point.

Saban usually copies a large chunk of Sentai in order to adapt, they may have adopted alot more of Sentai than we know, but failed to explain. They tend to adapt more than they change.

Using the Theo and RJ point there to try and post against me almost worked, except it was actually contradicted by a change that Disney made from Sentai. So it's not the same thing, I'll give you kudos though.

1)You have no point.Your useing unconnected logic to make a theroy.

2)Yes they do adapt a lot of they senti like you said.But they don't adapt all of it.Untill OO we didn't even know they had a son.Rita never says or expresses any hatered for dinosaurs.She expresses hatred for Zordon and his rangers for always thrwarting her plans to conquer earth.

3)It worked perfectly against you,your just unwilling to admit it.Your theory used Senti canon to try and explain a PR characters existance when said Senti canon was never used.Useing that i could easily come up with some retarded reason that Rj & Theo are brothers in PR because Retsu & Gou are in the Senti.

You being asinine.And just so im clear im using the PR asinine,not the Senti asinine.

If you want a real plot-hole,one that goes against establish logic like Question stated, i once again direct you to Sam.
Sam travels through time and ends up in an energy form.Yet every ranger before him (MMPR,Time Force) and after (SPD-Wormhole,OO-Once A Ranger) travel through time and are unchanged.That is a real plot-hole.

[Red Mystic Ranger]

Not exactly a plothole, but definately a dumb mistake.

How horses and the Rangers could survive being on the moon in Forever Red.

[RyanRXP]

Not exactly a plothole, but definately a dumb mistake.

How horses and the Rangers could survive being on the moon in Forever Red.

You would think the machine empire would have machine horses. But it can be explained by saying they are alien horses.

[Question]

There's always been air in space in the PRU.

[2580]

Okay, here's a good one: how could Tommy break the Zeo Crystal into five sub crystals with Saba, but the implosion of the Command Center didn't damage it in the slightest?

[RyanRXP]

Okay, here's a good one: how could Tommy break the Zeo Crystal into five sub crystals with Saba, but the implosion of the Command Center didn't damage it in the slightest?

1. Not a plot hole
2. A small concentraited beam in a certain place could easily do more damage.

[2580]

How is it not a plothole? One Ranger can shatter the Zeo Crystal into five sub crystals, yet an implosion device strong enough to destroy the Rangers' fortress wasn't powerful enough to do anything to it? Yeah, that's obviously not an inconsistency at all. And where do you get the idea of a small, concentrated beam? Tommy sliced the Zeo Crystal with the blade of Saba; he didn't zap the Zeo Crystal with Saba's eye beams, which would be plural, not singular.

[RyanRXP]

How is it not a plothole? One Ranger can shatter the Zeo Crystal into five sub crystals, yet an implosion device strong enough to destroy the Rangers' fortress wasn't powerful enough to do anything to it? Yeah, that's obviously not an inconsistency at all. And where do you get the idea of a small, concentrated beam? Tommy sliced the Zeo Crystal with the blade of Saba; he didn't zap the Zeo Crystal with Saba's eye beams, which would be plural, not singular.

1. I forgot
2. this is an enexplained event, not a plot hole. A plot would mean that it was impossible or changed the story. We don't now how he did it, but nothing said he could not do it.

[2580]

The only definition of a plot hole that I could find by doing a Google search is as follows:

"A plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot."

What I'm talking about is something that clearly goes against the flow of logic.

[RyanRXP]

The only definition of a plot hole that I could find by doing a Google search is as follows:

"A plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot."

What I'm talking about is something that clearly goes against the flow of logic.

1. Thank you for the definition, I was trying to word it that way.
2. Like I said before, it was never said that it could not be done.
3. So I said before, minus the beam part, one blow in a certain spot could easily break it apart.

[King]

Okay, here's a good one: how could Tommy break the Zeo Crystal into five sub crystals with Saba, but the implosion of the Command Center didn't damage it in the slightest?

How is it not a plothole? One Ranger can shatter the Zeo Crystal into five sub crystals, yet an implosion device strong enough to destroy the Rangers' fortress wasn't powerful enough to do anything to it? Yeah, that's obviously not an inconsistency at all. And where do you get the idea of a small, concentrated beam? Tommy sliced the Zeo Crystal with the blade of Saba; he didn't zap the Zeo Crystal with Saba's eye beams, which would be plural, not singular.

Thats not a plothole. The reason why he was able to do that was because the Crystal is able to be disassembled and then reassembled again. Why do you think it was able to be put back together so easily and why each sub crystal had the zeo shapes? Also, the whole reason why they broke it into pieces in the first place was because they didn't think they could damage it(they wanted to destroy it at first).

[Fire Ranger]

I would say Thrax, would definitly be one of the biggest plot holes.

As far as Tommy's doctorate we don't know what he was doing in forever red so you can't say he got it in only 6 years.

[RyanRXP]

I would say Thrax, would definitly be one of the biggest plot holes.

As far as Tommy's doctorate we don't know what he was doing in forever red so you can't say he got it in only 6 years.

He graduated at the begining of Turbo(1997) and he had it in Dino Thunder
(2004), 6 years later, so at the most it was 6 years.

[RangerKing]

What do you think is the biggest plot hole in Power Ranger history?
My choice is Tommy getting his doctorate in only 6 years.

A doctorate can be achieved in as little as three years.

[Gauntlet_Ranger]

So many plotholes
Maybe Thrax was born that way
The Morphs in Forever Red Jason to TJ Are the result of Sentinel Knight re-empowering them as he did the team in Once a Ranger
Tommy' Doctorate he worked his ass off
thats all I got

[Red Master]

Fire Ranger
I would say Thrax, would definitly be one of the biggest plot holes.

Zeo_Dragonzord
Maybe Thrax was born that way

Please read all the posts before posting.Thrax is not a plot-hole.Rita
& Zedd never say they don't have children.Its very possible thay forgot they had one or thought he was destoied since Tharx had been sealed for millions of years.But just because you forget something doesn't make it atuomaticly not exsist.

Zeo_Dragonzord
The Morphs in Forever Red Jason to TJ Are the result of Sentinel Knight re-empowering them as he did the team in Once a Ranger

Umm use some logic...its teh teck.Sentinel Knight was dormant until the crown was found.The crown wasn't found unitl 5 years after forever red.
It's more plausible that Alpha repaired their morphers/reconnected their powers to the morphing grid.

[Jiemusu]

1)You have no point.Your useing unconnected logic to make a theroy.

2)Yes they do adapt a lot of they senti like you said.But they don't adapt all of it.Untill OO we didn't even know they had a son.Rita never says or expresses any hatered for dinosaurs.She expresses hatred for Zordon and his rangers for always thrwarting her plans to conquer earth.

3)It worked perfectly against you,your just unwilling to admit it.Your theory used Senti canon to try and explain a PR characters existance when said Senti canon was never used.Useing that i could easily come up with some retarded reason that Rj & Theo are brothers in PR because Retsu & Gou are in the Senti.

You being asinine.And just so im clear im using the PR asinine,not the Senti asinine.

If you want a real plot-hole,one that goes against establish logic like Question stated, i once again direct you to Sam.
Sam travels through time and ends up in an energy form.Yet every ranger before him (MMPR,Time Force) and after (SPD-Wormhole,OO-Once A Ranger) travel through time and are unchanged.That is a real plot-hole.

I never said they adopt all of it, I said they adopt more than they create. You need to rest people's posts.

You're a very opinionated little one ain't you? I won't get a reasoning out of you. I know exactly what I mean, but you're overlooking it.

But I'll just say this.

Could you

A) Actually read people's posts the first time, and try not repeat the same generic thing like a stuck record, especially after someone already explained it to you why it's not relevant (which you didn't bother to take in)?

B) Try and learn to spell and use grammar correctly before you label other people and their actions as retarded? It makes you look very silly.

Kthankbye.

[2580]

2. Like I said before, it was never said that it could not be done.

Why does it need to be said in order for it to be a plot hole? You're just making up a rule to support your position.

Thats not a plothole. The reason why he was able to do that was because the Crystal is able to be disassembled and then reassembled again. Why do you think it was able to be put back together so easily and why each sub crystal had the zeo shapes? Also, the whole reason why they broke it into pieces in the first place was because they didn't think they could damage it(they wanted to destroy it at first).

I know that the Zeo Crystal can easily be assembled and disassembled; that has nothing to do with my argument. You and RyanRXP have both been attacking a strawman, which is the position that Tommy couldn't break the Zeo Crystal into five subcrystals. That was never my position. My position was that if Tommy could break the Zeo Crystal into five subcrystals, then it should follow that the force of the implosion of the Command Center should be able to do the same since it would be a much bigger force. In my opinion, the logic isn't consistent and therefore it's a plot hole, whether the logic is established by character dialogue or not.

[King]

An explosion hitting the crystals randomly is not going to have the same impact as Tommy cutting the crystal in its 5 pieces. Especially since it was doing this weird glowing thing when the rangers found it. It could have very well protected itself from being damaged. And its not really a plot hole since the rangers themselves were inquiring about what effect the explosion had on the crystal.

[2580]

An explosion hitting the crystals randomly is not going to have the same impact as Tommy cutting the crystal in its 5 pieces. Especially since it was doing this weird glowing thing when the rangers found it. It could have very well protected itself from being damaged. And its not really a plot hole since the rangers themselves were inquiring about what effect the explosion had on the crystal.

Tommy gave the Zeo Crystal one random slice and had no idea what effect it would have on the crystal. Since you've brought up the fact that the Zeo Crystal was glowing, which could be taken as a sign that it protected itself (it was hinted at being sentient), then I'll give you that. I also didn't think of the Rangers' inquiries about the state of the Zeo Crystal. Somebody has finally given me satisfactory reasons to discount my perceived plot hole and I appreciate it.

[RyanRXP]

A doctorate can be achieved in as little as three years.

I looked into it, the average is 6 to 7 years, and I am not sure if that includes the average 4 year degree. He may have gotten it, but highly unlikely. Tommy was not the smartest person in the world, so I doubt he could have done it a shoter amount of time. Plus he also had to decide to go into paleontology, last we saw him he was trying to be a pro racer. I just feel that Dino Thunder put him into a very improbable role.

About the 3 year comment, only a few characters could have got it in that short of a time, Billy, Justin, and Hayley.

[RyanRXP]

I fell that it is now a good time to summarize this thread.

Most talked about
Jasons Forever Red powers.
Thrax


Here are some that I found intersting(Not mine)
How the Power Rangers kept their powers after Ninjor was captured
How Mirinoi got a huge city built in only a year on a planet that is all jungle.



My purpose of doing this summary is to add a little bit more structure as the thread gets older.

[RangerKing]

That's with a bachelor's; but it also depends on the type of degree you're going for. A JD (which is essentially a doctorate in law) takes only three years after a bachelor's, but obviously a MD is going to take longer. But if you think about it, if you are really committed and continue to take classes during the summer I'm sure its possible regardless.

[ForeverBlue]

I think the biggest plot hole is the LR/TF team up "Time for Lightspeed". It was considered by almost all fans as the worst team up ever in history. The team up didn't really have a plot. No explanation of how Eric and Ryan met before the battle. Alison McInnis bailing out a few times when filming the team up before it was aired. Also, it was only 1 episode.

[RyanRXP]

I think the biggest plot hole is the LR/TF team up "Time for Lightspeed". It was considered by almost all fans as the worst team up ever in history. The team up didn't really have a plot. No explanation of how Eric and Ryan met before the battle. Alison McInnis bailing out a few times when filming the team up before it was aired. Also, it was only 1 episode.

That is not a plot hole.

[Ernde38]

I don't see how the Turbo powers creation is a plothole, they said the keys were model after Lerigot's golden key with the source being Eltar.

How is it NOT a plothole!? They never say happens to the Zeo Powers, and exactly how the Turbo powers are created. It just says they're modeled after the key, not created by it, or from it.

[Ernde38]

If they wanted to fix this plothole, all they'd have to do is include time travel. The plotholes in the Power Ranger series are really not that hard to fix if the creators just give it some thought.

I don't think the Disney creaters for the show, could be that creative...

[King]

How is it NOT a plothole!? They never say happens to the Zeo Powers, and exactly how the Turbo powers are created. It just says they're modeled after the key, not created by it, or from it.

Again, just because something isn't explained doesn't make it a plothole.

[Red Master]

Ryuk Ori
I never said they adopt all of it, I said they adopt more than they create. You need to rest people's posts.

You're a very opinionated little one ain't you? I won't get a reasoning out of you. I know exactly what I mean, but you're overlooking it.

But I'll just say this.

Could you

A) Actually read people's posts the first time, and try not repeat the same generic thing like a stuck record, especially after someone already explained it to you why it's not relevant (which you didn't bother to take in)?

B) Try and learn to spell and use grammar correctly before you label other people and their actions as retarded? It makes you look very silly.

Kthankbye.

I misread that part,in the end we agree on that.

:: puts fingers to temples and rubs:: The problem here is your doing that to me and not the other way around.I stated how your theory,which is what i've been talking about not the "what is a plot hole argument" is wrong.You stated that both of our theories are equal which they are not.
This is like you and i both being givin the same multiple choice test.I'm filling in answers we're allowed to use,while you are makeing up your own answers and circling them because you like your answers better.Will the timeline make you see how your theory is wrong or will you just ignore that you theory is a plot hole itself?
Millions of years ago Thrax is sealed by the Sentinel Knight in a space dumpster.
Millions of years later Rita is sealed in a space dumpster 10K years prior to 1993.

Your theory would equal Rita having Tharx after hes already been sealed away.

A)I have to keep repeating because you keep ignoring facts givin.Refer to my paragraph as to why this was not about "the definetion of a plot hole argument".
B)Your taking a superior high road about grammar on the internet?Where phrases like "all your base are belong to us" & "redonkulous" are coined like wildfire.Is this where i apologize to and admit i was wrong because "you spel gudder dan mi" and "spek cowect"?Your acting as if my argument is not readable.I guess people who txt message are complete morons for not spelling out the entire word.
Saddly i've seen this before where someone uses "superiority" when they have nothing else left in an argument.
Furhtermore i never said you were retarded.I said using your flawed logic i could come up with a retarded reason.But read it whatever way you like.

Dayhavegood.

[Jiemusu]

Someone's taking a kid's show a bit seriously.

Millions of years ago Thrax is sealed by the Sentinel Knight in a space dumpster.
Millions of years later Rita is sealed in a space dumpster 10K years prior to 1993. Your theory would equal Rita having Tharx after hes already been sealed away.


No, because you see, Rita wouldn't have the same lifespan as a normal human. She could live for a million years like it was nothing, most of the villains do.


B)Your taking a superior high road about grammar on the internet?Where phrases like "all your base are belong to us" & "redonkulous" are coined like wildfire.Is this where i apologize to and admit i was wrong because "you spel gudder dan mi" and "spek cowect"?Your acting as if my argument is not readable.I guess people who txt message are complete morons for not spelling out the entire word.
Saddly i've seen this before where someone uses "superiority" when they have nothing else left in an argument.
Furhtermore i never said you were retarded.I said using your flawed logic i could come up with a retarded reason.But read it whatever way you like.

Well, to be honest, it is kinda unreadable, a huge pain to try and read. It's difficult to try and take someone's post seriously when most words aren't spellchecked, it gives the impression that you aren't taking your post seriously, so others won't take your post seriously either. Unless you are from a country where English isn't your first language, there isn't any excuse. Can you at least 'try' to make your writing illegible? It would help.

And text talk? You don't need to use text talk. Ranger Talk doesn't tax you 60p if you go over the number of characters for a line.

[Red Master]

See your doing it again.Your ignoring any kind of factual information and just telling me im wrong without actually backing it up.Or when you try to defend it you contradict yourself.

Ryuk Ori
Someone missed their bed time...

I go to sleep when im tired.I'm not a child who has a set bed time.Also this doesn't do anything to invalidate my theory.

Ryuk Ori
Using the Theo and RJ point there to try and post against me almost worked, except it was actually contradicted by a change that Disney made from Sentai. So it's not the same thing, I'll give you kudos though.

I have to point this out to you again,maybe this time you'll a read it.
So you say RJ & Theo can't be brothers because disney didn't use that part of the story im making JF.
And we know Rita doesn't hate the dinosaurs because saban didn't use it in the story for MMPR.
So explain to me how if i made up some theory about how RJ & Theo being brothers by useing story information not carried over from geki ranger would be wrong,but your theory that say Rita hated the dinosaurs for she thought at the time for killing killing Thrax which saban didn't use from zyu ranger woud be right.

Ryuk Ori
No, because you see, Rita wouldn't have the same lifespan as a normal human. She could live for a million years like it was nothing, most of the villains do.

Umm i said it not,once but twice in my quote.Rita would have to exsist before Thrax so she could give birth to him now wouldn't she.Thrax then goes after the crown and then Sentinel Knight seals him in a dumpster.
Your theory states that Thrax is 10K years old.Which is impossible since information giving in Kick into Overdrive pt1 and Once a Ranger pt1 clearly state otherwise.

Ryuk Ori
Well, to be honest, it is kinda unreadable, a huge pain to try and read. It's difficult to try and take someone's post seriously when most words aren't spellchecked, it gives the impression that you aren't taking your post seriously, so others won't take your post seriously either. Unless you are from a country where English isn't your first language, there isn't any excuse. Can you at least 'try' to make your writing illegible? It would help.

So im useing the same spell throught all my posts yet now you can't understand it?
Well im am American born and raised.Which lets me know first hand that most americans don't use correct grammar.Any high school or college english teacher will tell you that.I would use a spell checker if the majority of my post were misspelled but their not as horrible as your making them out to be.
How about you useing the PR timeline connected to these forums when forming a theory involving PR timeline.

Ryuk Ori
Someone's taking a kid's show a bit seriously.

Your sentence is incorrect.The correct sentence is "Someone's taking a kid's show a bit too seriously."Strange how i understand your sentence even though it's incorrect,yet you can't understand the minor spelling errors in my posts.

[RyanRXP]

Red Master and Ryuk Ori, can you two drop it? You are turning this entire thread as your personal battle ground. Can you please fight this out through private, or vistor messages?

I am not doing this to insult you, but your arguement is just insult after insult, having very little to do with this thread.

[LFR]

Red Master and Ryuk Ori, can you two drop it? You are turning this entire thread as your personal battle ground. Can you please fight this out through private, or vistor messages?

I am not doing this to insult you, but your arguement is just insult after insult, having very little to do with this thread.

Ok that's enough. I see that you are trying to get things back on topic, but that is the staff's job.

If this thread does not stay on topic, I will close it.
Now, back to the discussion.

[Green_With_Evil]

Umm i said it not,once but twice in my quote.Rita would have to exsist before Thrax so she could give birth to him now wouldn't she.Thrax then goes after the crown and then Sentinel Knight seals him in a dumpster.
Your theory states that Thrax is 10K years old.Which is impossible since information giving in Kick into Overdrive pt1 and Once a Ranger pt1 clearly state otherwise.

I feel it necessary to point out that Rita was locked in a dumpster herself for 10,000 years, as it says in the MMPR intro ("Ah! After 10,000 years, I'm free!"). So in concordance with Red Master's information, Thrax would have to be older than 10,000 years.

[Jiemusu]

I see nothing unusual about Rita concieving Thrax before she was locked in the dumbster, followed by Thrax being sealed by Sentinal Knight, then later (at some point) Rita being locked in the dumpster by Zordon. Anyone who thinks it is must think that Thrax and Rita have the same lifespan as we do.

[Green_With_Evil]

Yes, but when Thrax was sealed in his dumpster by Sentinel Knight, he was of adult age. Admittedly, I have no idea how a being of alien descent ages, but I would assume that he would have grown from infant size in the same manner as virtually all life (which begs the question: is Rita really alien?). As such, he would be older than 10,000 years by a significant margin, considering that the aliens of PR age much slower than normal humans.

[Jiemusu]

Yes, but when Thrax was sealed in his dumpster by Sentinel Knight, he was of adult age. Admittedly, I have no idea how a being of alien descent ages, but I would assume that he would have grown from infant size in the same manner as virtually all life (which begs the question: is Rita really alien?). As such, he would be older than 10,000 years by a significant margin, considering that the aliens of PR age much slower than normal humans.

Rita is the daughter of Master Vile, I'll say she's pretty alien.

Also, about Thrax being aged, you didn't think that 20 or 30 year olds trying to play high school teenagers throughout Power Rangers WASN'T unusual? Lmfao.

Storywise, I guess Thrax aged faster because of the hassle and hardship he had to endure.

[Green_With_Evil]

Ah yes, I forgot about Master Vile. I was thinking only of when Zordon's energy wave hit, and she looked human. Whoops.

When I was in third grade, I never even noticed. I only saw the Power Rangers, and didn't think twice about them appearing older than regular high school kids. Then again, as a third grader, I didn't interact much with any high school kids; none were around where I went. But I don't see what this has to do with Thrax's aging.

I still maintain that he was over 10,000 years old, not 10,000 years exactly. The impression that he knew his parents was given, so that pretty much rules out Rita giving birth then getting locked in a dumpster right away. At the very least, I'd put Thrax at 11,000 years old.

[Jiemusu]

When I was in third grade, I never even noticed. I only saw the Power Rangers, and didn't think twice about them appearing older than regular high school kids. Then again, as a third grader, I didn't interact much with any high school kids; none were around where I went. But I don't see what this has to do with Thrax's aging.

I'm saying the actors tend to look older than the characters actually are, so I wouldn't look into it too closely.