Official Power Rangers Jungle Fury Discussion thread

[Jasmine Reimon]

This thread is about the Jungle Fury series in general rather than the last episode. Opinions, theories, hopes and such can be posted here. Rumors and news preferably go to the other thread.

[Tempest]

Well I guess I might as well post here XD. I must say, I have a love/hate relationship with Jungle Fury. I like that it's somewhat original, it's got good fight scenes, and for the most part, good acting. I find it rather disappointing that Fran {who is one of my favourites} has disappeared in the last little while, but I hope they'll bring her back.

I'm also enjoying the fact that they're having their own original rangers, which I've always been a fan of. Although I am kind of disliking the fact that they're forcing Kalish down our throats, I am starting to love Jungle Fury much more then I hated it at first. Anyway, I know that was probably more of a rambling session than anything else, but it's my opinion XD.

[Ao Ultimate]

I think it's going good so far. I'm look most forward to the Spirit Rangers saga then anything

[Hear All]

A very good season with a funny, charasmatic cast. The plot is going at a good pace and the villians are probably the most interesting in the Disney Era for sure

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

the spirit rangers are coming in whech eps?

[Hikaru Todoroki R1]

the spirit rangers are coming in whech eps?

They're coming next week, I assuming...

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

I hope so. I need to believe again.

[Titanium Ranger]

Lol the Spirit Rangers are confirmed anyways. What I'm curious about is whether their fighting will be dumbed down (as much as the others' is) or something like RJ's, which is better.

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

They are 100%, PR-made. This is a good start. I want this to rock on many levels...

[Saka Yuura]

I honestly can not wait for the spirit rangers. I hope its not just random beings that don't talk. That would make me very sad and make me not like them as much.

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

^Me too, just what we don't need: emotionless rangers

[Fire Ranger]

So far I would rank jungle fury as a great season I think one of my favorites. I have like the Rhino Ranger since I first watched Gekichopper, I just think he is a great ranger that will be remebered by fans for years


I also hope that the spirit rangers aren't emotionless none talking rangers.

[Titanium Ranger]

We surely don't need those. But I guess we can imagine Disney imagining spirits when they think of the rangers. I doubt the masters will be voicing the rangers, so hopefully it won't be some spiritual Sentinel Knight-ish voice (it was cool on him, just wouldn't work here)

[Hear All]

We surely don't need those. But I guess we can imagine Disney imagining spirits when they think of the rangers. I doubt the masters will be voicing the rangers, so hopefully it won't be some spiritual Sentinel Knight-ish voice (it was cool on him, just wouldn't work here)

I hope the 3 Masters just do their voices, the Sentinel Knight voices would be good if they got the right actors though

[ForeverBlue]

As of now, Jungle Fury is doing great for me :D I like it alot. Jungle Fury is already on my most favorite seasons list.

[Green Mystic Ranger]

Couldn't have said it better FB! Jungle Fury is really shaping up to be a top season. The characters are really great, and I really like RJ's character. They each have great personalities which make it more awesome!

[Ao Ultimate]

You can thank all those letters and emails from the fanbase.

[Kawaii Japan Lover]

I'm rather enjoying JF as well, can't wait for the Spirit Rangers!

[golden_phantom_ranger]

yep jungle fury is growing to be the best disney season in my opinion.

[Crimson Soul]

So far I have enjoyed every single episode of Jungle Fury except one, which would be "There is No 'I' in Leader." The other episodes have all been fantastic in my opinion. I am glad to see Disney is finally learning how to produce a 32-episode Power Rangers season (after two failed attempts).

[Hear All]

Jungle Fury is very good, its not perfect though, if Disney allowed for a 38 episode season, then there would be no doubt in my mind JF would be up there in the top 5

[WraithGadra]

JF is one of Disney's strongest seasons, and as long as they don't screw the Spirit Rangers up, it will most likely be favorably remembered for a few years to come.

I REALLY hope they don't screw up the Spirit Rangers. With all this hype, it would be too damaging.

[Crimson Soul]

Link to summarey of Episode 23 (Fear of the Phantoms): Click Me (http://henshintalk.com/showthread.php?t=183)

[DaiRed]

So far Jungle Fury is becoming one of my favorite Disney seasons.

[Hikaru Todoroki R1]

After looking at the spoiler of "Fear and the Phantoms", I felt pretty disappointed that JF's version of Long is not Dai Shi separated from Jarrod. Anyone else feel this way?

[Crimson Soul]

After looking at the spoiler of "Fear and the Phantoms", I felt pretty disappointed that JF's version of Long is not Dai Shi separated from Jarrod. Anyone else feel this way?

I feel very dissapointed as well. Right when I saw Long in "Fear of the Phantoms," my heart nearly sank. My prediction is that Scorch (Long's JF Counterpart) will betray Dai Shi, and take over the entire darkness army. Dai Shi and Camille will have to turn to the Rangers, and together they will defeat Long once and for all. Finally, Dai Shi and Camille's Spirits will pass on to the after life, and Jarrod will be free.

I know the prediction sounds dissapointing, but it looks like something similiar to this is going to happen. Unless maybe Dai Shi's Spirit decides to possess Scorch? Either way, I feel like the scab writers let a great oppurtunity slip by.

[Hear All]

Am I the only one who hates Casey and feels like punching him in the face? Or am I just weird and alone on this one??:confused:

[ThisSpaceForRent]

I like this season, I really, really do. It has it's problems, but so has every season preceeding it (Saban's included). It has strong writing (stronger than OO and MF, certainly), good acting, and some nice action. I find all of the characters likeable and think the set-up of the show is pretty good so far. But, that's just my opinion.

[DarkBlaze]

Am I the only one who hates Casey and feels like punching him in the face? Or am I just weird and alone on this one??:confused:I don't hate Casey. He's a cool character and all, it's just his Ranger status and leadership needs an upgrade. I'm hoping, regardless of how random it may be, that his recent increase in power is the start of his development.

[DaiRed]

After looking at the spoiler of "Fear and the Phantoms", I felt pretty disappointed that JF's version of Long is not Dai Shi separated from Jarrod. Anyone else feel this way?

I feel very dissapointed as well. Right when I saw Long in "Fear of the Phantoms," my heart nearly sank. My prediction is that Scorch (Long's JF Counterpart) will betray Dai Shi, and take over the entire darkness army. Dai Shi and Camille will have to turn to the Rangers, and together they will defeat Long once and for all. Finally, Dai Shi and Camille's Spirits will pass on to the after life, and Jarrod will be free.

I know the prediction sounds dissapointing, but it looks like something similiar to this is going to happen. Unless maybe Dai Shi's Spirit decides to possess Scorch? Either way, I feel like the scab writers let a great oppurtunity slip by.

This disappoints me greatly. :( It's even worse that they call him Scorch.

[Crimson Soul]

This disappoints me greatly. :( It's even worse that they call him Scorch.

I don't mind them calling him Scorch. They had to call him something, and Bandai never gives the villians the same name as their Sentai counterpart. I seriously think that "Scorch" is a better name than the other two Phantom Beast Generals (Whiger and Snapper).

[Hear All]

This disappoints me greatly. :( It's even worse that they call him Scorch.

Maybe if Dai Shi fuses with Scorch he'll get a cooler name:D

[Ecliptor_knight]

The PR names haven't been great but at least they're halfway creative.... I say halfway cause some are just out there.

[DaiRed]

I don't mind them calling him Scorch. They had to call him something, and Bandai never gives the villians the same name as their Sentai counterpart. I seriously think that "Scorch" is a better name than the other two Phantom Beast Generals (Whiger and Snapper).

You know someone will probably read his name and pronounce it "Wigger". Lol.

[Hear All]

Just saw "Fear and the Phantoms" and i was wondering, are the 3 Masters the Spirit Rangers? Or did the 3 Masters summon the Spirit Rangers from somewhere else?

[DarkBlaze]

No, Whiger, Scorch, and Snapper used three Crystal Eyes (I assume theirs), to summon their (Swoop, Finn, and Phants) Animal Spirits and create these Ranger's. But, according to recent spoilers, the Spirit Ranger's are nothing more than Radio Waves. Yet, whatever moves the Master's make, the Ranger's make (their under a spell).

[rmssw]

It's possible that Disney created their own Dai Shi. It wouldn't be the first time they've made their own master villain. I'd much prefer that than if they had used Long as Dai Shi. Long isn't threatening enough to be Dai Shi.

[ForeverBlue]

Yeah, I'm shocked that Dai Shi's is not Long's counterpart. Dai Shi's spriit is a chinese dragon while Long's is a Avron (sp?) Dragon.

Now as for remaining 5 Crystal eyes, 2 of them would be Rio's form and Mele's form. What would the other 3 be?

[DarkWish]

Yeah, I'm shocked that Dai Shi's is not Long's counterpart. Dai Shi's spriit is a chinese dragon while Long's is a Avron (sp?) Dragon.

Now as for remaining 5 Crystal eyes, 2 of them would be Rio's form and Mele's form. What would the other 3 be?
I don't know if we can assume that. As of now, the rangers have the other 5 crystal eyes and it's possible that Dai Shi and Camille get upgraded forms another way, possibly through Rin Sin power. I wonder if those other crystal eyes will even be used much more.

[Legendary.]

Jungle Fury is right behind Dino Thunder and SPD and Ninja Storm...It's good thing though.

The same can't be said about OO and MF...they won't even be put on a list! I liked OO but it's not nearly as good as Lily is.

[ThisSpaceForRent]

Haters be darned, I'm officially putting Jungle Fury in my top echelon of favorite seasons. Like Legendary said, right up there with NS, SPD, and DT.

I LOVED "Fear of the Phantoms" (especially because it had a Lily-centric subplot) and the reveal of the Spirit Rangers literally made me squee with joy.

In other news, Master Phant's niece (who I'm going to guess is his great-neice because he is OLD) was super cute and I loved that she wore PINK the entire episode. I enjoyed that little nuiance, I don't know if anyone else caught it...

So, yeah, I'm psyched about the rest of this season. Stoked, really. <3

By the way, I happen to think the name Scorch is quite awesome. A bit too youngish for the look of this 'Long' character...but I'd rather he had a unique 'American' identity rather than be a rehash of a Sentai guy. And at some point, Jared is going to break from Dai Shi...so whatever becomes of him will eventually be seen, I'm going to venture to guess.

[Hear All]

I think Dai Shi will leave Jarrod and use Scorch's body as a host instead. They can't ignore the SS Zord footage when Rio and Mele join the GekiRangers

[Ao Ultimate]

I agree, Jungle Fury is by far on of the best Disney seasons along with NS and DT. Really not that big on SPD but I still like it and its a hell of a lot better then thos atrocities known as MF and OO.

[ForeverBlue]

I think Dai Shi will leave Jarrod and use Scorch's body as a host instead. They can't ignore the SS Zord footage when Rio and Mele join the GekiRangers

Yeah, good point there Hear All

[rmssw]

I think Dai Shi will leave Jarrod and use Scorch's body as a host instead. They can't ignore the SS Zord footage when Rio and Mele join the GekiRangers

They can use that footage without necessarily having to deal with the separation of Dai Shi and Jarrod. I would imagine that Dai Shi and Camille would team up with the Rangers to destroy the Phantom Beasts. There's a good chance that Long/Scorch will have absolutely nothing to do with Dai Shi. At this point, I expect that Disney has created their own Dai Shi that we will see in the finale.

[Platinum Ranger]

I'm a little bit behind so I have a question or two... In the show, have they explicitly said the colors of the wolf ranger (violet, purple, or something else) and the shark ranger (blue, cyan, or something else)?

[Izout]

No and no.

[Hear All]

"One Last Second Chance" hasn't aired on Verizon FiOS or Disney XD? Looks like everyones go to wait:(

[DarkWish]

"One Last Second Chance" hasn't aired on Verizon FiOS or Disney XD? Looks like everyones go to wait:(
There's no reason for it to be on there now. The episodes are always one week early on Verizon FiOS. This Monday is "Blue Ranger, Twin Danger" so that episode is up on Verizon FiOS. Since "Blue Ranger, Twin Danger" is premiering on Toon Disney this Monday, I think it's safe to say that "One Last Second Chance" will also be on Verizon FiOS this Monday and hopefully on the Disney Jetix XD site like this week.

[Hear All]

^^My mistake then

[ForeverBlack]

Am I the only one loving the Zord battle locale and settings?

it used to be in the middle of the day ALL the time,and now its sunset,night,and in the Ocean..so wicked.

[Hear All]

Wheres Fran been? Jungle Fury seems to empty without her:(

[Saka Yuura]

She's off learning the equivalent of Leopard-ken from Mao's ghost.

[Hear All]

She's off learning the equivalent of Leopard-ken from Mao's ghost.

Which episode did the say that:confused:?

[RainbowTempest]

Which episode did the say that:confused:?

I'm not sure, but I think he said that as a joke.

[ForeverBlue]

Which episode did the say that:confused:?

He made a joke Hears All lol

[Legendary.]

Im actually extremely happy with the new locations they've decided to film at. Seeing that one shop center/mall or whatever it was got really annoying.

[Hear All]

I got to be honest with everyone, I don't think Jungle Fury is that good of a season (so far), but before you kill me look at my points

Cons:

- Casey, can't stand the guy, I think he's a complete dick and obviously dosen't have the skill to lead a team

- Lily, I liked her at first, now her character is so nice to people that its unrealistic and honestly very annoying

- Theo, he has improved I think hes better than he was at the beginning, he's alright, nothing special though

- Dominic, the most rushed Ranger of all-time and probably the biggest failure, since his Rhino Zord Arc has he even had some serious dialogue or screen time?

- Dai Shi and Camille, I like these two villians, but their not truly evil. Disney shouldn't have tried to make Dai Shi seem evil the whole time, we should have been seeing more signs of Jarrod

- We never get any explanation on how the Jungle Fury team gets new powers or morphers. Who made Casey, Lily and Theo's morphers? Where and who made RJ's Wolf Morpher? Who made Dom's morpher and where did it come from (some people say RJ but thats not concrete)?

Pros:

- RJ, best Ranger we've gotten in a long time, he's the #1 reason I keep watching Jungle Fury

- Spirit Rangers, do I need to say more?


I think Jungle Fury is the second worst Disney season (the worst being Operation Overdrive)

[Zero]

*Claps.* I liked everything but the Pros.. Oh well..

Well put though, I kind of have to agree with you on the RJ thing, because he fits being a ranger.. Just not.. The wolf ranger.. Had he been someone a little different.. Like.. The Rhino Ranger, then I would totally agree with you that he's a great ranger, but.. I'm stuck with the Holy Grail of rangers, Gou Fukami.. *Nods.* But.. The series hasn't ended yet, he still has to reveal his American equivalent of his GekiWaga..

Anywho..
Well put Hear All!

[ThisSpaceForRent]

*cackles* Oh, you people are an bottomless bag of unintentional hilarity.

Can't wait to see what you all will be saying next year with RPM.

It always makes me sad when we're given a good season and it's sh*t on. Turbo, NS, and now JF. I guess nothing can please certain people.

Oh, and just my opinion. Not bustin' anybody's chops, just sayin'.

[RyanRXP]

Jungle Fury has been getting bad lately. If this keeps up it could just suck. I liked RJ, but now am getting board of him, I never liked Dom, and I hate the spirit rangers. I still the the original 3, but, like all of Disney's characters lately, they don't have much depth. They are still over using the CGI and wires. I still have it as my 10th ranked season, but largely because I didn't like Turbo or the other 6, ranked lower. I am almost certain that it will drop to 12. I do not think that Disney has the right people needed to make a good season anymore. That said, I still think Jungle Fury is a step in the right direction.

P.S. I fear for the next season of Power Rangers.

[Hear All]

Thanks Jūken GekiViolet:D

*cackles* Oh, you people are an bottomless bag of unintentional hilarity.

Can't wait to see what you all will be saying next year with RPM.

It always makes me sad when we're given a good season and it's sh*t on. Turbo, NS, and now JF. I guess nothing can please certain people.

Oh, and just my opinion. Not bustin' anybody's chops, just sayin'.

I'm actually looking forward to RPM and going in with higher expectations since Kalish won't have anything to do with it

The thing is I don't think Jungle Fury is that good, I think Disney seasons like Mystic Force, Dino Thunder, SPD and Ninja Storm are much better. Most Disney season has had that one special something that makes it really good

Ninja Storm- Brought interesting villians and introduced their Rangers almost perfectly. It was a perfect mix of comedy and seriousness

Dino Thunder- This season was pure nostalga and made both older and newer fans happy

SPD- The cast is probably the best Disney has ever put together (my opinion)

Mystic Force- The story was amazing, they kept all their secrets hidden well and was one of the most shocking seasons. The finale was really good too, Nick using the Koragg armor was the highlight of the season

[ThisSpaceForRent]

I'd agree with you about nearly everything but Mystic Force. I mean, I liked the season, but it was completely predictable.

I guess I just don't get the JF hate. Some people hate if for not being a clone of Gekiranger. That's one of the top reasons I love it. If I want Gekiranger I'll watch Gekiranger. I come to PR for a different spin on whatever the concept of the Sentai title it's honed from. That's why iS was so amazing to me. That's part of the reason why I really am not a fan of TF.

Kalishisms are annoying, yes, but I don't let them ruin the story for me.

And the pacing with JF has been poor, I will admit that, but it's never been unenjoyable for me. The progression of character makes sense...even if it feels accelerated. They only have like 32 or something episodes, it's not like they can fit every single minute detail into a 22-minute block of programing.

But, it's just my opinion. I've enjoyed all of the Disney seasons except OO.

But, I too am excited for RPM...especially since I don't find Go-Onger that impressive anymore. n.n

[Hikaru Todoroki R1]

I really don't wanna complain, but, what is with all the JF hate? Seriously...

@Hear All:
I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but you are looking at JF at a surface level. You need to dig deeper more like I do--I "read between the lines" and think critically about what's going on, the background, and all that shit, just like what I do when I analyze an essay.

@Jūken GekiViolet:
I'm not trying to threaten you, Juken, but you say JF is bad? Turn off the TV, watch Sentai and Sentai only, and don't watch PR ever again, if it's that big of a threat to you. It's as simple as that. You obviously trying to degrade and ruin the fandom here.

---

I do respect your opinions, guys, but this is what I think when you say these kinds of things. JF is doing a great job. Plus, I am looking forward to RPM, I have high hopes for it being a great season as much as Go-onger is.

[Titanium Ranger]

*Claps.* I liked everything but the Pros.. Oh well..

Well put though, I kind of have to agree with you on the RJ thing, because he fits being a ranger.. Just not.. The wolf ranger.. Had he been someone a little different.. Like.. The Rhino Ranger, then I would totally agree with you that he's a great ranger, but.. I'm stuck with the Holy Grail of rangers, Gou Fukami.. *Nods.* But.. The series hasn't ended yet, he still has to reveal his American equivalent of his GekiWaga..

Anywho..
Well put Hear All!

Agreed on everything there. Overall, I could do with some serious sides to RJ but he's really the most realistic of the rangers. The others seriously need to take tips from the older seasons (NS, DT and SPD) and try not to scream too much.

I too am looking forward to RPM, but mostly because unlike Geki, Go-onger hasn't been super-amazing so far (save for the Go-ong Wings). I think Disney has less of a standard to live up to here, so it might work out better. Also, it'll be interesting to see a different take from it's sentai counterpart.

[RyanRXP]

I'd agree with you about nearly everything but Mystic Force. I mean, I liked the season, but it was completely predictable.

I guess I just don't get the JF hate. Some people hate if for not being a clone of Gekiranger. That's one of the top reasons I love it. If I want Gekiranger I'll watch Gekiranger. I come to PR for a different spin on whatever the concept of the Sentai title it's honed from. That's why iS was so amazing to me. That's part of the reason why I really am not a fan of TF.

I don't get why people say Power Rangers should be more like Sentai. I feel that Power Rangers should only take the morphed fight scenes, and create a new story around that, with the writters not even seeing the sentai episodes.

[DarkWish]

I got to be honest with everyone, I don't think Jungle Fury is that good of a season (so far), but before you kill me look at my points

Cons:

- Casey, can't stand the guy, I think he's a complete dick and obviously dosen't have the skill to lead a team

- Lily, I liked her at first, now her character is so nice to people that its unrealistic and honestly very annoying

- Theo, he has improved I think hes better than he was at the beginning, he's alright, nothing special though

- Dominic, the most rushed Ranger of all-time and probably the biggest failure, since his Rhino Zord Arc has he even had some serious dialogue or screen time?

- Dai Shi and Camille, I like these two villians, but their not truly evil. Disney shouldn't have tried to make Dai Shi seem evil the whole time, we should have been seeing more signs of Jarrod

- We never get any explanation on how the Jungle Fury team gets new powers or morphers. Who made Casey, Lily and Theo's morphers? Where and who made RJ's Wolf Morpher? Who made Dom's morpher and where did it come from (some people say RJ but thats not concrete)?

Pros:

- RJ, best Ranger we've gotten in a long time, he's the #1 reason I keep watching Jungle Fury

- Spirit Rangers, do I need to say more?


I think Jungle Fury is the second worst Disney season (the worst being Operation Overdrive)

I actually think Jungle Fury is Disney's best season and I've been enjoying it a lot overall. Here are my thoughts on what you said:

- I actually like Casey. He started out leading the team with not really a reason to, but as we've seen in the past few episodes, he can fight. I think he's proven that he can lead the team well. I agree that more could be done to show him as a leader, but it's not as bad as other seasons.

- I kind of thought the opposite about Lily. At first, I couldn't really put her personality into words. I can see now how she is and I'm enjoying the focus episodes with Lily in them.

- I've liked Theo since the beginning. He's a cool character and I like how he is slowly not trying to be the best in everything.

- Dominic, I can agree on. He hasn't had any focus since he first came and since the control dagger episodes. Oddly enough though, it seems like he's been there for a while. To me, he just sort of is there and I feel like he's been there for a while, though I don't know him as well as I do the others.

- I am actually enjoying Dai Shi and Camille a lot. Most villains try to act all badass up front and end up getting whooped every time. Dai Shi and Camille are slowly gaining more and more power. I actually like the fact that whenever Dai Shi gets a new power, another stronger power appears and he tries to obtain it. It shows that he is constantly getting stronger and when he finally unleashes his strength, it's going to be one heck of a battle. Camille trying to get Dai Shi's attention is awesome too. He's actually begun to recognize her more often too, so that's been great.

- As for the morphers, honestly I don't care much. Yes, it's annoying to see them just get ranger technology with no explanation, but I see that as a minor thing. The show is all about the rangers themselves, and that's what needs to be focused on. Yes, it would be nice to know, but I don't see it as something that is hurting the season.

- I totally agree on RJ. RJ is such an awesome ranger and he's my favorite character this season.

- As for the Spirit Rangers, at first I was disappointed. But ever since "One Last Second Chance", I am really enjoying them. They are quite awesome.

So, in short, I agree with your pro's, but disagree with your con's. Maybe I'm just not that picky, but Jungle Fury is giving me Mighty Morphin-esque vibes, and that's awesome. Ninja Storm was too comical for me, Mystic Force was too lame for me (so many things were just so obvious that it annoyed the heck out of me, like the stuff about Nick), and Operation Overdrive could have been so much better. The only other Disney season I can compare Jungle Fury to is Dino Thunder, and both are great seasons.

So yea, that's what I think. I respect your opinion, but I thought I'd share mine as well.

[Titanium Ranger]

I kind of agree there, but on this one (and I have watched Gekiranger complete), those who have seen Geki realize that JF has a lot to live up to. I wasn't even that big of a sentai fan but when it ended, I even called it THE best show at the time. I like Jungle Fury on its own accord, but sometimes it just gets under my skin with all those crap-ass explosions and unnecessary grunts. That is the only part I believe should be more like Geki, because it was downright awesome martial arts stuff rather than wire-fu.

Also, the acting needs to be more believable but other than that, it's a definite improvement from Overdrive. I honestly loved the latest episodes and if they keep that up, JF is good to go.

[RyanRXP]

I forgot to mention the villians, I hate Dai Shi and Camille. What ever hapened to villians being strong. Every 10 episodes, there is a new villian with a new power that makes those 2 weaker. Camille might just be the most anoying villian in the shows history. All she does is get weaker and weaker. Dai Shi is the weakest "main villian" the show has ever had. I just want one of the stronger villians to destroy them.

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

I think if JF had more Kung Fu-like, less rangerific wire-fu fights, I'd like it more. If you're gonna use the wire, do it sparingly. I see absolutely no moves that show real Tiger or Jaguar technique

[Hear All]

Jungle Fury shouldn't be like Gekiranger, I don't think Power Rangers seasons have to be based on their Super Sentai counter-parts, thats why i'm such a big fan of Dino Thunder

@Darkwish

I can't change your opinions on the Rangers, everyone is different and has different tastes. I don't like the JF Rangers (except RJ) and you do like them. What we can agree on is the season itself. My main problem with the season is the Rangers and that they have little depth to them and their very unrealistic

Dai Shi dosen't seem very strong or menacing, he dosen't put fear into the Rangers, which makes the whole season seem very unconvincing because as a viewer I don't know what the Rangers are so worried about (espcially after RJ fought Dai Shi unmorphed 1-on-1 and almost won). All he does is talk tough, but when its time to fight he can't back it up

[ThisSpaceForRent]

I kind of agree there, but on this one (and I have watched Gekiranger complete), those who have seen Geki realize that JF has a lot to live up to. I wasn't even that big of a sentai fan but when it ended, I even called it THE best show at the time. I like Jungle Fury on its own accord, but sometimes it just gets under my skin with all those crap-ass explosions and unnecessary grunts. That is the only part I believe should be more like Geki, because it was downright awesome martial arts stuff rather than wire-fu.

Three words for you. "Standards And Practices". American television is a completely seperate entity from Japanese television, if that wasn't completely obvious already. PR couldn't get away with some of the things that Sentai does. It just couldn't. The culture is different. That doesn't make either one better than the other, in my opinion. That just makes them different from one another. You have a preference to Gekiranger. That's cool, and I guess I get it, but I still don't think it's fair to judge JF based on Gekiranger. JF should be compared to other PR seasons whereas Gekiranger should be compared to other sentai seasons. That's just what I think. And the core theme (i.e. Martial Arts) remained intact. It may not be as intensive as some would like it, but it's there.

And I love the sounds the JF Rangers make when they fight, particularly Lily and Theo.

Not very different from JDF's "Hut-Zee-YAH!", I don't think.

Also, the acting needs to be more believable but other than that, it's a definite improvement from Overdrive. I honestly loved the latest episodes and if they keep that up, JF is good to go.

You do realize this is PR, yeah? The acting has NEVER been prime-time worthy.

I happen to think JF has some of the best Disney-era acting since SPD. People hate on Disney, but I happen to think that they have done some excellent casting.

And a bowl of okra would have been an improvement over Overdrive. JF is so above that dreck for me, I can't even mention them in the same sentence directly.

I forgot to mention the villians, I hate Dai Shi and Camille. What ever hapened to villians being strong. Every 10 episodes, there is a new villian with a new power that makes those 2 weaker.

Some would say, y'know, that that was intentional. I.E., part of the plot. Part of the reason I adore Dai Shi and Camille so much IS their limitations and their, for lack of a better term, humanity. They are *gasp* RELATABLE VILLAINS! They aren't completley, explicitly evil. And I for one am intrigued by that concept.

Camille might just be the most anoying villian in the shows history. All she does is get weaker and weaker. Dai Shi is the weakest "main villian" the show has ever had. I just want one of the stronger villians to destroy them.

Now that's just crazy talk, in my opinion. Camille...more annoying than Vypra? Nadira? Toxica? Seriously? No. Not in my opinion, anyway...but that's your opinion, so I respect it.

I just don't think people are appreciating the cool literary devices that JF has been employing...and rather well, if I may say so.

Oh, and a friend of mine who doesn't have access to the boards wanted to weigh in with his opinion. He asked me to relay it to you all and I was only too happy to oblige.

I don’t get the Jungle Fury hate. I mean, I get it, but I don’t get it. I don’t understand why people have become so harsh or critical Jungle Fury. Supposedly the pacing’s bad, supposedly Dai Shi’s not evil enough.

But isn’t that evident in two distinct fan loved seasons?

Let’s talk about Tommy for a minute. He became a Ranger in his very first appearance. Tommy’s first outing in the show was one of the most horribly written things in a show known for some terrible, terrible writing (but, we love it anyway.) This new kid, who just happens to be SUPER SPECIAL AWESOME, also totally had Kimberly all up on him AND was awesome enough to be turned into the first Ranger with a shiny shield who just happened to be able to take all of the original Rangers by himself.

Eh…what?

Tommy’s introduction as a Ranger was poorly done and rife with Mary Sue-ish tendencies. He instantly appears, becomes an evil Ranger in mere minutes after his introduction, and we have to care? It’d be okay if we considered him some sort of evil menace, but we don’t. Once the Rangers figure out who he is, they’re so worried and want to save him. But, why should we care? We don’t know this character and have no reason to be attached other than Kimberly’s teenage infatuation (a phenomenon so common that it shouldn’t even be within the realm of concern). Oh, but it gets better when he then joins the Rangers and they all act as if they’ve always belonged together despite not truly knowing Tommy for more than a good five minutes.

Poor pacing. Terrible. Five episodes of who was essentially a personality-less drone who we were supposed to care about. Kimberly likes him, apparently we have to as well. There’s nothing about him or his relationship with the MMPR that was established prior to his taking over other than he was a mean kung fu fighter. Suddenly he’s a good guy and we’re supposed to shout hooray? I don’t buy it. I did when I was 3 or whatever, but not anymore. Nostalgia’s not enough.

Tommy’s was duller than Dominic’s. Both of them appeared out of nowhere, but Dom’s Ranger form was actually better paced than Tommy’s: he didn’t get his Ranger power quite as fast. Not only that, but we got to know Dominic. You know what? He’s a nice guy. He felt like many friends I’ve had in my life, and his interaction with Fran was just cute. He was a reader, a dreamer, a deep thinker, and someone who wasn’t afraid to be a little goofy. All in one episode.

Tommy was just some guy who we were supposed to care about for no reason who ended up becoming leader for no reason.

“Dai Shi isn’t evil enough.”

A bad guy isn’t evil enough? Whenever I read about Gargoyles or Spider-Man or some random anime series, people tend to praise the villains for being multidimensional and not evil for the sake of evil. But we get to Power Rangers and suddenly everyone has a hissy fit because the current bad guy isn’t Zeddified? So what if Dai Shi isn’t “evil enough”? He’s INTERESTING because of that.

Why Time Force is praised for Frax and Ransik, the two most morally ambiguous villains in the entire franchise, but Jungle Fury is put down because of a villain who just might not cut it as a villain is something I’ll never understand. I always thought the great thing about Dai Shi was that he just didn’t know what he was doing now that he was back and mixed with Jarrod’s psyche. Nobody criticizes Ransik for having realistic motives, but everyone criticizes Dai Shi for having a realistic reaction to his recent rise to power? That doesn’t make sense. Dai Shi was interesting because he just didn’t know what to do: people wondered why he sought masters when he himself controlled the Rinshi (no one seemed to understand he meant master in terms of trainer, though), but nobody wondered why they were not rooting for a bad guy trying to stop genetic racism.

It’s nice to have things different once in a while. It’s okay for the villain this season to be a little aimless and realize that his plans for getting stronger haven’t worked. He obviously has gotten out of that by having the Phantom Beasts kill Jellica. But he grew out of it, and why is that bad? He’s a kid. A kid with a symbiote, no less. Dai Shi is his Venom, and he’s the Eddie Brock. The only difference is that Dai Shi/Jarrod is actually tolerable and fits well within the context of the show. The core Rangers’ journey is just a giant learning process, why can’t Jarrod’s be too?

If you’re going to criticize villains for being “not evil enough”, then criticize Ransik for fighting for the good of the future while his sanity allowed him to.

I love Jungle Fury because it reminds me of MMPR: Does it have flaws? Oh, viciously so. But Goddamnit, despite those flaws, it’s still a really fun, enjoyable show. Just like MMPR was.

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

The action/fight scenes all have become the same semi-bland fights with the same ranger-tricks used to battle foot soldiers. Would it hurt to see someone get crescent or roundhouse kicked anymore on PR?

[ThisSpaceForRent]

Would it hurt? Probably the stunt person who recieved the kick.

Again I say "Standards And Practices". The FCC would be all over PR if they did that.

I will say that I do miss good, grounded, realistic fights...but, y'know what? All of the over-the-top fighting stuff works for me in JF because of the theme of the season. I would say that a paramilitary season would be the best to bring back more hard-hiting fights...

Not that the older seasons were really that much better. I think we're letting nostalgia cloud our memories and thinking. PR fighting has never really been on the level of an old kung-fu film. It's more of a Peking Opera sort of thing...

[Saka Yuura]

I love it how people complain about how shows are bad and yet they watched them anyways. :p

[Titanium Ranger]

Three words for you. "Standards And Practices". American television is a completely seperate entity from Japanese television, if that wasn't completely obvious already. PR couldn't get away with some of the things that Sentai does. It just couldn't. The culture is different. That doesn't make either one better than the other, in my opinion. That just makes them different from one another. You have a preference to Gekiranger. That's cool, and I guess I get it, but I still don't think it's fair to judge JF based on Gekiranger. JF should be compared to other PR seasons whereas Gekiranger should be compared to other sentai seasons. That's just what I think. And the core theme (i.e. Martial Arts) remained intact. It may not be as intensive as some would like it, but it's there.

And I love the sounds the JF Rangers make when they fight, particularly Lily and Theo.

Not very different from JDF's "Hut-Zee-YAH!", I don't think.

Er... American television.. standards and practices... you need to watch some CW shows (not saying I'm comparing those to PR, but that's in response to your S&P thing). And it is different from zuyt-kyah... way more so.

And just so we're clear, I don't mean gore or stuff either. Just some realistic aspect, something like what consequences jumping off even a two-storey height down to the ground could have (this is only an example).

You do realize this is PR, yeah? The acting has NEVER been prime-time worthy.

I happen to think JF has some of the best Disney-era acting since SPD. People hate on Disney, but I happen to think that they have done some excellent casting.

Similarly, you do realize this is a PR board right? So I'm naturally talking by PR standards. I was recently watching DT and NS. Save for Hunter there, it's pretty believable stuff so I'm comparing it to PR seasons themselves. Tell me that thoughts of really bad acting never even once crossed your mind while watching Jarrod 'trying' to be evil?

Now that's just crazy talk, in my opinion. Camille...more annoying than Vypra? Nadira? Toxica? Seriously? No. Not in my opinion, anyway...but that's your opinion, so I respect it.

It's good you respect opinions, because my answer is yes to all except Nadira. Camille shares first place with her.

Would it hurt? Probably the stunt person who recieved the kick.

Do you really think the stunt person would be hurt shooting some fight footage?

[Hikaru Todoroki R1]

Oh. My GOD. This is already turning into a battle of opinions...

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

I love it how people complain about how shows are bad and yet they watched them anyways. :p

I like how people make a note of the obvious. That whats loyal fans do...It's like sports, you stick with your team no matter what

[Saka Yuura]

I like how people make a note of the obvious. That whats loyal fans do...It's like sports, you stick with your team no matter what

I know right...it helps when someone does...

Yeah okay, I get that comparison...BUT, just because you LOVE a team doesn't mean you're gonna watch every game when they are losing, right?

[ThisSpaceForRent]

Er... American television.. standards and practices... you need to watch some CW shows (not saying I'm comparing those to PR, but that's in response to your S&P thing). And it is different from zuyt-kyah... way more so.

Well, that is your opinion, to which you are more than entitled...but please allow me to counter that with my own thoughts on the subject.

Standards and Practices are different, y'know, from daytime shows/children's programing and prime-time shows. Gossip Girl, the new 90210, Supernatural, Smallville, etc. are all PRIME-TIME shows. They can get away with more because they are targeted towards an OLDER audience. Meanwhile, violence in children's television is hardly ever allowed to push envelopes without being pushed back.

The only exceptions to that, in terms of Power Rangers, that I can think of Time Force and Wild Force...and that period in time was very shady for PR as no one was too sure about the future, so they took chances. Apparently, some of those paid off in their favor (in the fandom, anyway), but don't ever expect to see that again in the series...ESPECIALLY not out of Disney.

That isn't to say that Disney can't do dark. Disney has a way of doing dark..i.e. ever notice that every Golden Age-- meaning the 80's-90's-- Villain from Disney's animated features dies a horribly gruesome death that's usually only hinted at? Guaston was impaled by a gargoyle, Jafar was sentenced to eternity in a lamp that was submerged in lava (if I remember correctly), Clayton hung himself (you can hear his neck snap in the sequence), Scar was eaten alive by hyenas, Frollo fell into an all engulfing inferno...Oh, and his character was disgustingly evil, in a somewhat Hannibal Lector sort of way...

And let's not forget Gargoyles. Disney's responsible for that, too.

All I'm saying is that Standards and Practices would destroy PR if they tried to pull any of that now. They'd up the viewer rating, which would drastically decrease the audience and then the entire franchise would probably be f*ck all from there.

And just so we're clear, I don't mean gore or stuff either. Just some realistic aspect, something like what consequences jumping off even a two-storey height down to the ground could have (this is only an example).

Supernatural and Smallville (CW's big Sci-Fi/Fantasy titles) are geared towards an older audience, so the realism is punched up. Besides the ability to procure big-name actors for their shows, the major difference between PR and those shows is the target audience. More mature viewers want the sort of things people here keep asking of PR. That, in itself, is unrealistic. It's not going to happen.

And, honestly, if PR was more realistic, all of those times Rangers have been ejected and flung from their Megazords would have resulted in a lot of dead Rangers.

Similarly, you do realize this is a PR board right? So I'm naturally talking by PR standards. I was recently watching DT and NS. Save for Hunter there, it's pretty believable stuff so I'm comparing it to PR seasons themselves. Tell me that thoughts of really bad acting never even once crossed your mind while watching Jarrod 'trying' to be evil?

Now, see, that-- to me-- doesn't make sense. JF acting is WAY better than OO, MF, and WF, in my opinion. DT, NS, and SPD's acting was all exemplary, and I think JF is right up there with them.

In terms of the PR universe, it IS belivable and it makes sense. To me, JF has some of the MOST relatable Rangers, ever.

The core three are just kids, and they reflect that well, I think.

I don't care much for Casey, but Lily and Theo are great. People who think Lily is 'too nice' baffle me. I know at least three people exactly like Lily. There is nothing wrong with being bubbly and kindhearted. In fact, that's a trait I value in my friends. Theo started off as somewhat of a pompous little twirp, but through the course of the show, the reasons why he acted that way were revealed, especially in this latest episode where he admited to envying his twin brother. I get them. I can relate. Thusly, I enjoy them.

Dom was a wandering nomadic type guy trying to find his place in the world. In all of three episodes, I think I got a pretty good idea of who he is. He's kind of like those guys in college who reach a point where they want to backpack across Europe and such, y'know? Well, maybe you don't, but yeah, that's what he reminded me of.

And RJ...RJ is love. He really reminds me of some friends I've had. He's such a hippie, but I can definitely see his serious side that people keep saying he hasn't shown or whatever.

It's good you respect opinions, because my answer is yes to all except Nadira. Camille shares first place with her.

Well, that's your opinion. n.n I completely disagree, but I can't fault you for having your own thoughts on the subject.

Camille, for me, is relatable and (strangely enough) realistic. She has romantic feelings for Dai Shi, and has shown throughout the show just how serious she is about it. She's gone through the fire for him, and she still loves him.

Conversely, Dai Shi began as this egomaniacle bully who treated Camille as a pawn...but here lately it seems as if she's growing on him. Could it be that Dai Shi and Jarrod are struggling within his psyche? That's what I'm willing to bet, but whatever. That's my opinion. I enjoy the villains just as much as the Rangers. I love this season.

Do you really think the stunt person would be hurt shooting some fight footage?

Anyone who's watched a Jackie Chan movie can atest to this: stunts do not ALWAYS go according to plan. I'm sure a stuntman has been kicked pretty hard in the head before. I wouldn't doubt it.

[Titanium Ranger]

Hmm I do see your point there. Well explained with the whole TF thing, because that is quite the perfect example of the type of 'violence' PR should have.

Now, see, that-- to me-- doesn't make sense. JF acting is WAY better than OO, MF, and WF, in my opinion. DT, NS, and SPD's acting was all exemplary, and I think JF is right up there with them.

~snip~

That's opinion I guess. The acting is no doubt better than MF alright, but something close to OO and WF for me...

Anyone who's watched a Jackie Chan movie can atest to this: stunts do not ALWAYS go according to plan. I'm sure a stuntman has been kicked pretty hard in the head before. I wouldn't doubt it.

I had a feeling you'd say that. But this is assuming it's a normal thing. Of course we don't want to see it completely connecting and the guy's jaw rattling. Wait, that's the thing. A guy in a monster suit might have some cushion for the blow.

[RyanRXP]

Would it hurt? Probably the stunt person who recieved the kick.

Again I say "Standards And Practices". The FCC would be all over PR if they did that.

You are totally overpowering the FCC. All the FCC would do is raise the rating back to Y7. Disney lower the target audience so they lowered it to TVPG.

I like people debating opinions, but you are all acting like you have the ultimate opinion. Saying he is wrong and I am right. People view the seasons differently. One great example is that I hate SPD, where as most people say it was great. I accept that people like what I hate.

Back to the villians, the reason I don't think they are good is, because when I think of "main villians" I think of Darth Vader(before the prequels), Megatron(from beast wars) and the Joker. Why? They are clearly powerfull and wouldn't let anyone question their power(except for the emperor), plus they are what I grew up thinking are pure evil. Don't count out what evil villians you grew up with, the shaped what you feel is fictional evil.

[DarkWish]

Jungle Fury shouldn't be like Gekiranger, I don't think Power Rangers seasons have to be based on their Super Sentai counter-parts, thats why i'm such a big fan of Dino Thunder

@Darkwish

I can't change your opinions on the Rangers, everyone is different and has different tastes. I don't like the JF Rangers (except RJ) and you do like them. What we can agree on is the season itself. My main problem with the season is the Rangers and that they have little depth to them and their very unrealistic

Dai Shi dosen't seem very strong or menacing, he dosen't put fear into the Rangers, which makes the whole season seem very unconvincing because as a viewer I don't know what the Rangers are so worried about (espcially after RJ fought Dai Shi unmorphed 1-on-1 and almost won). All he does is talk tough, but when its time to fight he can't back it up
On the subject of the rangers, it's kind of funny that you say that. I actually feel that I can sort of relate to these rangers, unlike most of the other Disney seasons. Casey has a role that he wasn't prepared for at first, but seems to be doing an okay job of it. Lily is really nice to others and sometimes people take advantage of that, and she's starting to learn to toughen up a little bit I think. And Theo always wanted to prove that he was worth something and wanted to be the best. He's now learning that it's all about team work. These things I can all either relate to or imagine how it feels. I'm actually quite surprised at how much I can relate to them, especially since I felt I couldn't relate much to the Mystic Force and Operation Overdrive teams. I mean, who can relate to being an android? While I did like that plotline, it wasn't done well. Anyways, that's going off-topic.

About Dai Shi, I do agree that he doesn't seem that strong. To me though, it seems that whenever Dai Shi gets more power, the rangers seem to get an equal or stronger power. I can feel that both the rangers and Dai Shi are growing in strength. I have a feeling that the rangers will end up underestimating Dai Shi's power. And they've hinted that Dai Shi isn't as strong as before cause he's in a human's body. I'm thinking he'll take Scorch's body and show us his true strength. And after all the training that has been done, I get the feeling that he's going to be pretty strong. We haven't seen much evidence of his amazing power yet, but we have seen how he is getting stronger throughout the season. It's all just building up to a climax I think.

And lastly, this goes for everyone. I don't see why anyone thinks it makes sense to compare Power Rangers to Sentai. All they are doing is taking the morphed footage and using it, so there's no reason to compare the two. It's actually quite annoying to me to hear "Gekiranger did this so much better" or even "Jungle Fury actually did something different than Gekiranger". While Gekiranger is the source material, they are two different shows with different audiences with different characters. It just doesn't make sense to compare the two. I can understand if you say that in general, you like sentai or power rangers better. But to compare each season and to say this episode was done better in one show just doesn't make sense. I know someone wrote out this super long post about this subject (was it ThisSpaceForRent?), but I think that was on the old forums and I don't know where it is anymore. Anyone else agree/disagree with me on the whole PR/Sentai thing and want to share their opinion?

[RyanRXP]

I think that people are just complaining that Casey is underdeveloped because, unlike the past few red rangers, the show is not all about him. Unlike the past few seasons, they are developing the other rangers. If Casey was not the red ranger, I think people would not be so down on him.

[Izout]

I think that people are just complaining that Casey is underdeveloped because, unlike the past few red rangers, the show is not all about him. Unlike the past few seasons, they are developing the other rangers. If Casey was not the red ranger, I think people would not be so down on him.

Or maybe it's because Casey is a poorly written character. His ranger color has nothing to do with it.

[RyanRXP]

Or maybe it's because Casey is a poorly written character. His ranger color has nothing to do with it.

I don't feel he is poorly written. Sky, Chip, everyone from Overdrive, they were poorly written. Casey just is written differently than previous characters(most carachters from Jungle Fury are). The writers suck, but we knew that, just be glad we didn't get him written like Dax. Which they could have done, Disney considers this nothing more than another kid's show.

[ThisSpaceForRent]

You are totally overpowering the FCC. All the FCC would do is raise the rating back to Y7. Disney lower the target audience so they lowered it to TVPG.

No, you are obviously unaware of the reputation of the FCC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC). And let's not forget S&P (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standards_And_Practices). Mess with them, and you won't just get a higher rating...you could face potential cancelation. Trust.

I like people debating opinions, but you are all acting like you have the ultimate opinion. Saying he is wrong and I am right. People view the seasons differently. One great example is that I hate SPD, where as most people say it was great. I accept that people like what I hate.

Welcome to the nature of fandom, dude. You're getting worked up and it's obvious. It isn't even all that. A lot of people here diss stuff I love CONTINOUSLY, and yeah a lot of them act like their word is law. But I'm going to keep putting my opinion out there, because I'm not intimidated by the numbers because I have logical reasons for the way I feel about things, so that gives me the drive to keep discussing.

Back to the villians, the reason I don't think they are good is, because when I think of "main villians" I think of Darth Vader(before the prequels), Megatron(from beast wars) and the Joker. Why? They are clearly powerfull and wouldn't let anyone question their power(except for the emperor), plus they are what I grew up thinking are pure evil. Don't count out what evil villians you grew up with, the shaped what you feel is fictional evil.

Pure Evil. Every villain, every criminal, and even every hero isn't completely black or white. There is such a thing as moral ambiguity. I mean, if you don't like the subtlty that that concept brings, that's your perogative and no body can hate on you for it, I just don't agree.

And Dath Vader didn't start off as the homocidal sociopath he became. One of the very few good things about the prequels is that they showed that. He's my favorite kind of villain...like Mesogog and David Xanatos, not completely evil.

Heck, even Voldemort didn't start off completely evil...well, maybe he did, but it was in response to his surroundings and the turns that life dealt him. Those things are what help make a character lasting and interesting.

I think that people are just complaining that Casey is underdeveloped because, unlike the past few red rangers, the show is not all about him. Unlike the past few seasons, they are developing the other rangers. If Casey was not the red ranger, I think people would not be so down on him.

Now, you make a very good point, and I think I agree with you. If he wasn't the Red Ranger, Casey probably wouldn't get near the ammount of flack he does now.

[RyanRXP]

Welcome to the nature of fandom, dude. You're getting worked up and it's obvious. It isn't even all that. A lot of people here diss stuff I love CONTINOUSLY, and yeah a lot of them act like their word is law. But I'm going to keep putting my opinion out there, because I'm not intimidated by the numbers because I have logical reasons for the way I feel about things, so that gives me the drive to keep discussing.

Pure Evil. Every villain, every criminal, and even every hero isn't completely black or white. There is such a thing as moral ambiguity. I mean, if you don't like the subtlty that that concept brings, that's your perogative and no body can hate on you for it, I just don't agree.

Now, you make a very good point, and I think I agree with you. If he wasn't the Red Ranger, Casey probably wouldn't get near the ammount of flack he does now.

1. I was not talking about you. You made it clear that those were your opinions.
2. I was pointing out that I grew up with those villians, and they shaped what I want from villians. I did not grow up with the prequels, so they don't change what I view as evil.
3.Thank You:)

[DarkWish]

I knew it, it has to be ThisSpaceForRent that wrote that awesome post a while ago. He always says everything perfectly. And RyanRXP, you bring up a great point that I didn't think about before. Jungle Fury has been focuses on the other rangers as well. I've been so sick of just red, red, red all the time and we've gotten quite a bit of focus on the other rangers (for the most part).

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

wouldn't be the first time a red ranger was nearly completely forgotten. I remember Jack was done the same way in SPD. I thought he was awesome

[Zero]

I really don't wanna complain, but, what is with all the JF hate? Seriously...

@Hear All:
I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but you are looking at JF at a surface level. You need to dig deeper more like I do--I "read between the lines" and think critically about what's going on, the background, and all that shit, just like what I do when I analyze an essay.

@Jūken GekiViolet:
I'm not trying to threaten you, Juken, but you say JF is bad? Turn off the TV, watch Sentai and Sentai only, and don't watch PR ever again, if it's that big of a threat to you. It's as simple as that. You obviously trying to degrade and ruin the fandom here.

---

I do respect your opinions, guys, but this is what I think when you say these kinds of things. JF is doing a great job. Plus, I am looking forward to RPM, I have high hopes for it being a great season as much as Go-onger is.
Okay..
First off,
"Read Between the Lines"? It's a child's television show first of all. Honestly, there shouldn't be "reading between the lines" for an age range barely allowed to watch PG rated television shows.. That's a tad bit ambiguous, wouldn't you say?
I recognize that it is a child's television show, and I lament the fact that the characters are so shallow/surface area when it comes to story. If you're going to teach children anything, which I hope is still the aim of Power Rangers, you have to create characters that children will trust, and in this day and age they have to know a character through and through before a child can truly absorb what's going on. If not all it is, is Dragon Ball Z with multi colored spandex suits, explosions, yelling, and fighting. These shallow characters that barely have any pre-development, as in any type of back story aside from little snippets of history from the Academy and their childhood fears are really a step toward Barney, regretfully because there's really no story to these characters, they're face value characters. Granted Barney was astoundingly sucessful, but all I remember from the show is the Purple Dinosaur himself and how addictive it was to stand up and sing. If you're going the way of a toddler's with characters that have no story, they just appear on the screen for 22 minutes, dance around, say funny things, and then the fancy music plays, lose the title of power rangers and adopt "Rainbow Warriors of Happy Fun Town!"
That, is where my hatred comes from, and it's hate, OHHHH BOYYYY is it hate..

Secondly, Hikaru Todoroki R1.. I'm allowed to voice my opinion. Please don't pull a Doctor Phil on me, like I'm some kind of mental case that needs to be locked up because I don't like a weakest season of power rangers yet (In My Opinion). I watch Power Rangers still because I believe in them. But so far, they're letting me down, I keep watching, looking for the glimpse of what a season and a half ago, I held close to my heart, but.. It's not there.. YET anyway..

[ThisSpaceForRent]

Okay..
First off,
"Read Between the Lines"? It's a child's television show first of all. Honestly, there shouldn't be "reading between the lines" for an age range barely allowed to watch PG rated television shows.. That's a tad bit ambiguous, wouldn't you say?

I wouldn't say it's "ambiguous" because ambiguous doesn't mean what I think you think it means. If anything, you've just aided in validating Hikaru's point.

am·bi·gu·i·ty [àmbi gyətee]
(plural am·bi·gu·i·ties)
n
1. doubt about meaning: a situation in which something can be understood in more than one way and it is not clear which meaning is intended

2. statement with more than one meaning: an expression or statement that has more than one meaning

Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Also, is Power Rangers rated PG? If it is, I've never noticed it. I wouldn't be surprised, but still, that would be rather odd as similar shows don't really carry that high of a rating that I'm aware of. I've always thought it was something along the lines of Y7 with a warning about minimal or cartoon violence... Oh well, that's neither here nor there.

I recognize that this is your opinion, and you're more than entitled to it. However, please allow me to counter with my own set of opinions.

A lot of reading between the lines goes on in children's television. More often than I can count, writers, producers, and actors slip some multidimentional humor, some moral dilemma that can reflect on several different levels, or some sort of unifying factor that makes a show enjoyable for all ages into whatever it is they are working on. There are a treasure trove of examples: Rugrats, SpongeBob, Hey Arnold, etc. And just because something is aimed at children, that doesn't immediately make it 'low-brow'. A prime example of that would be Gargoyles.

Most cartoons have this, and-- in my opinion-- so does Power Rangers.

I recognize that it is a child's television show, and I lament the fact that the characters are so shallow/surface area when it comes to story. If you're going to teach children anything, which I hope is still the aim of Power Rangers, you have to create characters that children will trust, and in this day and age they have to know a character through and through before a child can truly absorb what's going on.

You give children too little credit, I feel. Children, at least before the age of 6, are completely without bias or prejudice. They are open, eager to learn, and curious. They only have to have their interest peaked by something to engage in it.

And the characters and stories are only one-dimensional or flat if you aren't of a sufficient mental level to disect it and look for deeper meaning in certain actions and responses by the characters in the show. Power Rangers has always been filled with a certain morality, and that is one thing, in my opinion, that has never and will never change.

If not all it is, is Dragon Ball Z with multi colored spandex suits, explosions, yelling, and fighting.

The same could be said of any live action tokusatsu or sentai title, including Super Sentai.

These shallow characters that barely have any pre-development, as in any type of back story aside from little snippets of history from the Academy and their childhood fears are really a step toward Barney, regretfully because there's really no story to these characters, they're face value characters.

They are only 'face value' characters if you lack the cognitive skill to look deeper. In my opinion, anyway.

And their fears weren't 'Barney' to me as they are legitimate fears. People ARE really scared of spiders, public humiliation, and the unknown. Granted, I thought Casey's fear was the weakest of the three, but dispite that they did a nice job of characterizing him with that. That was part of his history; he was afraid of potential closet monsters in his childhood.

And what more do you need than snippets? Even SS doesn't map a Ranger's life out from begining to the end of the series. I mean, it astounds me how people can cut SS SO much slack but come down extra hard on PR. I don't get it.

Again, I must reiterate at this juncture that this is nothing more than how I feel. In other words, my opinion.

Granted Barney was astoundingly sucessful, but all I remember from the show is the Purple Dinosaur himself and how addictive it was to stand up and sing. If you're going the way of a toddler's with characters that have no story, they just appear on the screen for 22 minutes, dance around, say funny things, and then the fancy music plays, lose the title of power rangers and adopt "Rainbow Warriors of Happy Fun Town!"

Again, I think you take everything overboard when it comes to PR. PR is a kid's program, yeah, so a fair amount of 'kiddish' things will be present in the show...

BUT, if you could stand to be more intellectual, perhaps you could see that beyond what you believe are 'face value' characters and 'flat' storylines are interesting, intriguing concepts. To be honest, I just think you dislike it for not being a carbon copy of Sentai...and I just don't get that method of thought. I'm sorry, I just don't.

That, is where my hatred comes from, and it's hate, OHHHH BOYYYY is it hate..

Really silly, petty things to hate a series for. It's your opinion and your taste, so you definitely don't have to change it to please any one else...but it certainly amuses me how you'll belittle PR and praise SS when they are essentially the exact same thing seen from two different perspectives.

And if you hate it so much, why keep watching? Why not take the advice people keep suggesting and go stictly Sentai? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It's like you're trying to pick apart the series before even giving it a chance. I'm almost certain you hated it before the opening even finished playing, huh?

And yet you enjoy Go-Onger? Doublethink is hilarious to me.

Once again, let me pause to state that this IS ALL MY OPINION. Nothing here is law. It's just how I feel. It's based in logic, though, so...yeah.

Secondly, Hikaru Todoroki R1.. I'm allowed to voice my opinion. Please don't pull a Doctor Phil on me, like I'm some kind of mental case that needs to be locked up because I don't like a weakest season of power rangers yet (In My Opinion).

You rank JF lower than OO and WF. That makes me sad. Your taste, whatever, but still.

And, in my opinion, you've been really juvenille in this whole situation. It's like you really enjoy coming in here, busting on JF, and trying to make it seem like the people who enjoy it are...stupid, for lack of a better term. That's what I get from each and every one of your posts, anyway.

You really ought to watch that. It isn't cool to insinuate that someone is of lower intellegence...especially when it seems like you're having trouble with your grammar. Just my opinion.

I watch Power Rangers still because I believe in them. But so far, they're letting me down, I keep watching, looking for the glimpse of what a season and a half ago, I held close to my heart, but.. It's not there.. YET anyway..

That first sentence sounds insane to me. If you hate a season, don't watch it. What's so hard about that? If you're more of a SS fan than a PR fan, watch SS more. It's not rocket science.

You make it sound like PR OWES you something when it most certainly doesn't. But if you love to hate, keep on with the keepin' on...I, for one, will continue wondering just exactly why you do it (because this excuse makes absolutely no sense to me), but whatever. You don't owe me anything either, and certainly not a reasonable explaination.

NOTE: MY OPINION, NOTHING MORE.

[RyanRXP]

Also, is Power Rangers rated PG? If it is, I've never noticed it. I wouldn't be surprised, but still, that would be rather odd as similar shows don't really carry that high of a rating that I'm aware of. I've always thought it was something along the lines of Y7 with a warning about minimal or cartoon violence... Oh well, that's neither here nor there.

I know that Overdrive was PG, I think Disney switched it to PG a while ago, but I did't check. Power Rangers was Y7 up to Wild Force, they stopped showing the ratings after that year. Disney lowered the age range so that 7 was the oldest. Saban used the Y7 rating to put in more "mature" content. I put mature in quotes for obvious reasons(still a kids show). Saban's seasons were targeted to older kids than Disney's seasons.

And about why people say Sentai is so much better, subtitles. Don't forget, people allow more room for error, when it is in another language(like me and PGSM)

[Hikaru Todoroki R1]

I wouldn't say it's "ambiguous" because ambiguous doesn't mean what I think you think it means. If anything, you've just aided in validating Hikaru's point.



Also, is Power Rangers rated PG? If it is, I've never noticed it. I wouldn't be surprised, but still, that would be rather odd as similar shows don't really carry that high of a rating that I'm aware of. I've always thought it was something along the lines of Y7 with a warning about minimal or cartoon violence... Oh well, that's neither here nor there.

I recognize that this is your opinion, and you're more than entitled to it. However, please allow me to counter with my own set of opinions.

A lot of reading between the lines goes on in children's television. More often than I can count, writers, producers, and actors slip some multidimentional humor, some moral dilemma that can reflect on several different levels, or some sort of unifying factor that makes a show enjoyable for all ages into whatever it is they are working on. There are a treasure trove of examples: Rugrats, SpongeBob, Hey Arnold, etc. And just because something is aimed at children, that doesn't immediately make it 'low-brow'. A prime example of that would be Gargoyles.

Most cartoons have this, and-- in my opinion-- so does Power Rangers.



You give children too little credit, I feel. Children, at least before the age of 6, are completely without bias or prejudice. They are open, eager to learn, and curious. They only have to have their interest peaked by something to engage in it.

And the characters and stories are only one-dimensional or flat if you aren't of a sufficient mental level to disect it and look for deeper meaning in certain actions and responses by the characters in the show. Power Rangers has always been filled with a certain morality, and that is one thing, in my opinion, that has never and will never change.



The same could be said of any live action tokusatsu or sentai title, including Super Sentai.



They are only 'face value' characters if you lack the cognitive skill to look deeper. In my opinion, anyway.

And their fears weren't 'Barney' to me as they are legitimate fears. People ARE really scared of spiders, public humiliation, and the unknown. Granted, I thought Casey's fear was the weakest of the three, but dispite that they did a nice job of characterizing him with that. That was part of his history; he was afraid of potential closet monsters in his childhood.

And what more do you need than snippets? Even SS doesn't map a Ranger's life out from begining to the end of the series. I mean, it astounds me how people can cut SS SO much slack but come down extra hard on PR. I don't get it.

Again, I must reiterate at this juncture that this is nothing more than how I feel. In other words, my opinion.



Again, I think you take everything overboard when it comes to PR. PR is a kid's program, yeah, so a fair amount of 'kiddish' things will be present in the show...

BUT, if you could stand to be more intellectual, perhaps you could see that beyond what you believe are 'face value' characters and 'flat' storylines are interesting, intriguing concepts. To be honest, I just think you dislike it for not being a carbon copy of Sentai...and I just don't get that method of thought. I'm sorry, I just don't.



Really silly, petty things to hate a series for. It's your opinion and your taste, so you definitely don't have to change it to please any one else...but it certainly amuses me how you'll belittle PR and praise SS when they are essentially the exact same thing seen from two different perspectives.

And if you hate it so much, why keep watching? Why not take the advice people keep suggesting and go stictly Sentai? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It's like you're trying to pick apart the series before even giving it a chance. I'm almost certain you hated it before the opening even finished playing, huh?

And yet you enjoy Go-Onger? Doublethink is hilarious to me.

Once again, let me pause to state that this IS ALL MY OPINION. Nothing here is law. It's just how I feel. It's based in logic, though, so...yeah.



You rank JF lower than OO and WF. That makes me sad. Your taste, whatever, but still.

And, in my opinion, you've been really juvenille in this whole situation. It's like you really enjoy coming in here, busting on JF, and trying to make it seem like the people who enjoy it are...stupid, for lack of a better term. That's what I get from each and every one of your posts, anyway.

You really ought to watch that. It isn't cool to insinuate that someone is of lower intellegence...especially when it seems like you're having trouble with your grammar. Just my opinion.



That first sentence sounds insane to me. If you hate a season, don't watch it. What's so hard about that? If you're more of a SS fan than a PR fan, watch SS more. It's not rocket science.

You make it sound like PR OWES you something when it most certainly doesn't. But if you love to hate, keep on with the keepin' on...I, for one, will continue wondering just exactly why you do it (because this excuse makes absolutely no sense to me), but whatever. You don't owe me anything either, and certainly not a reasonable explaination.

NOTE: MY OPINION, NOTHING MORE.

Thank you, TSFR. I for one support your opinions.

And I don't wanna point my fingers at people, but still, I am outraged by the fact people like Juken Gekiviolet tend to march in here, bust on JF and make people who enjoy it feel stupid without any excuse, without ANY good reason whatsoever. And I feel that way EVERY SINGLE TIME a person disses a good season like this. This is my opinion, and this is how I feel, NOTHING MORE. END OF DISCUSSION.

[Legendary.]

If JF was a girl I'd get her pregnant so I could see her again. I think it's that good.

[Izout]

So..... am I the only one whose wondering how RJ manage to run Jungle Karma Pizza by himself for almost a year until the Rangers' showed up? And does anybody else think RJ should hired more employees since it's gotta suck for Fran to have to run JKP all by herself while the others are off doing ranger things?

[RyanRXP]

So..... am I the only one whose wondering how RJ manage to run Jungle Karma Pizza by himself for almost a year until the Rangers' showed up? And does anybody else think RJ should hired more employees since it's gotta suck for Fran to have to run JKP all by herself while the others are off doing ranger things?

You answered your own question, if Fran could handle it, so could RJ. Plus JKP is not that big. They use camera angles to make it look larger on TV, but it only has around 6 tables(I think it might be only 5, but not sure)

[Green Space Ranger]

After watching One last second chance i was left wonder

1: can the Masters morph now?

2: are they joining the team?

[RyanRXP]

After watching One last second chance i was left wonder

1: can the Masters morph now?

2: are they joining the team?

Of course, the only question I have left is will they morph, or do the whole out of body thing(they did say spirit rangers)

[DarkProject]

It strikes me that they have Spirit Rangers much like the 'zords' are just manifestations of the spirit animals. In other words, no morphing, just being able to command their ranger forms outside their bodies.

[RyanRXP]

It strikes me that they have Spirit Rangers much like the 'zords' are just manifestations of the spirit animals. In other words, no morphing, just being able to command their ranger forms outside their bodies.

The thing that bug me about the spirit rangers is that they come in so late, but will instantly become part of the team, fighting like they have been fighting together for years.

[transformering101]

Earlier on they hinted the rangers continue to train with them. So its not like their perfect strangers. I like some others feels it late for them to join. I guess the term astro projection would be too complex for little kids, so disney calls them spirits. Still spirits isn't too far off from astral projection. Why split hairs?

[Green Space Ranger]

I hope they can morph, but im betting that they can not

[DarkProject]

Yes, but the Masters trained the Rangers each individually. They also trained in the same school. It seems likely that their styles would complement each other. Especially since Lily has used the Elephant Style in their battles, Theo's used the Bat style, and Casey has used the Shark style. Having a second member who uses the same style wouldn't mess that up.

[transformering101]

Yes, but the Masters trained the Rangers each individually. They also trained in the same school. It seems likely that their styles would complement each other. Especially since Lily has used the Elephant Style in their battles, Theo's used the Bat style, and Casey has used the Shark style. Having a second member who uses the same style wouldn't mess that up.

Agreed :cool:

[RyanRXP]

True. Earlier on they hinted the rangers continue to train with them. So its not like their perfect strangers.

It is one thing to train with some one, its another to fight with them. The rangers were trained to use the spirit rangers's weapons against others, they had no reason to train them so they could fight together. I am not saying that they could not fight together, but they will have about 5000 attacks that work together, with perfect timing required, by the next episode.

[DarkProject]

If anyone can train them to work as a cohesive team, RJ can.

Wolf Pack tactics, anyone?

[Green Space Ranger]

I look forward to seeing the Masters more

[Bushbabygirl]

I love this season of power rangers. It has everything and more to look forward to each week. Being a college student reliving childhood memories of power rangers is what i live for. Not to mention easy on the eyes with the amazing cast. Love Dai Shi, RJ and Casey. Lily is amazing I loved her in Bad to the Bone episode she really was woah woah even a girl like me has to admit that. Now if they would only would have the guys with no shirt of maybe a shirtless compeition for us to thread on here. :D

[atomic1fire]

I think that the masters will play a significant role in assisting the rangers But by complementing the rangers, the masters have probably had years to master their respective styles, and the rangers each have styles seperate from the styles, their core cats and the jungle mastery animals. not only that, but the masters wont be a huge asset as far as zord battles and stuff goes, since not much of the bat/shark/elephant stuff goes on from long/ron on

[RyanRXP]

I think Disney just made the spirit rangers so that the rangers could counter all of the power-ups they gave the villians. If each power-up was stronger than the last, the rangers would have need help to defete the evil forces in only 5 or 6 episodes, which is all that remains.

[Titanium Ranger]

Earlier on they hinted the rangers continue to train with them. So its not like their perfect strangers. I like some others feels it late for them to join. I guess the term astro projection would be too complex for little kids, so disney calls them spirits. Still spirits isn't too far off from astro projection. Why split hairs?

This is more of a question from me, but I've seen astral projections to be spiritual. Can they interact with their surroundings at all? I think they'd phase right through whereas the Spirit Rangers are real (kind of).

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not only that, but the masters wont be a huge asset as far as zord battles and stuff goes, since not much of the bat/shark/elephant stuff goes on from long/ron on

I'm thinking maybe that's another place where Disney goes original. If the spirits are here to stay, they will no doubt be helping out the rangers in a lot of the future battles.

My only problem with them is that now, the villains will be destroyed sooner, so we probably don't have that many phantom beasts left and by that extension, not too many episodes.

[transformering101]

This is more of a question from me, but I've seen astral projections to be spiritual. Can they interact with their surroundings at all? I think they'd phase right through whereas the Spirit Rangers are real (kind of).

I know exactly what you mean. I have seen astral projections to be spiritual as well. In some of these cases the person projecting couldn't even be seen. In some tv series or movies, the person needed to concentrate to become visible as well as touch objects and communicate with others.

In away its like the projectie is a ghost. Ever see Casper: A Spirited Beginning? Casper needed to train to become invisible and be able to pick things up. Finally ghost can shape shift. (at least in casper's different series they can.) Think of it this way. Ghost equals spirit out of body and your dead. Astral projection form equals spirit or mind out of body and your alive.

[DarkProject]

As far as the zord battles go, there is a possibility that Disney is going to actually use the Elephant/Bat/Shark megazord combo from the toyline. It'd be a first, but so are the Spirit Rangers themselves.

[Green Space Ranger]

Good point DarkProject. id love to see the Spirit Rangers get their own Megazord.

[Pink Ninja Ranger]

I really dont think they will be getting their own megazord

[DarkProject]

I really dont think they will be getting their own megazord

Any reason why, or just your gut feeling?

[ForeverBlue]

If Bandai did a delux megaord of the 3 auxillory zords together....we would have seen a pic of it and it would have been used in the show. So the answer will be no.

[Green Space Ranger]

thats a shame

[DarkProject]

You don't think this qualifies?

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2967816

[Legendary.]

You don't think this qualifies?

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2967816

The Strike Ryder is an arm?

[DarkProject]

Any of the motorcycles can be added as arms, but the Panther and Leopard zords are the original in-package arms.

[mbozzo]

I love Jungle Fury. I just wish that it will last more than 32 episodes. :(

[RyanRXP]

I love Jungle Fury. I just wish that it will last more than 32 episodes. :(

If we get 32 episodes. Remember, Disney has been cutting episodes for years.

[Titanium Ranger]

Any of the motorcycles can be added as arms, but the Panther and Leopard zords are the original in-package arms.

Lol I just read something on the site

Manufacturer's Age: 4 years and up

Looks like it. The Strike Rider as an arm of a megazord? There's a size difference...is it supposed to pull a Justin on us?

[RyanRXP]

Looks like it. The Strike Rider as an arm of a megazord? There's a size difference...is it supposed to pull a Justin on us?

Why does it have to be a "Justin"? The first ranger to pull a size change was Kim, she was alot shorter than her morphed form, Kat was the fist to shrink. P.S. Justin did not gain any height compaired to Tommy, who grew to the size of a megazord.

P.S. the biggest mystery involving size changing, is MMPR's megazord's hand.

[Titanium Ranger]

Why does it have to be a "Justin"? The first ranger to pull a size change was Kim, she was alot shorter than her morphed form, Kat was the fist to shrink. P.S. Justin did not gain any height compaired to Tommy, who grew to the size of a megazord.

P.S. the biggest mystery involving size changing, is MMPR's megazord's hand.

Kim was still the shortest of the group, as was the morphed Pink Ranger. Same with Kat... it wasn't a notable size difference. You can't realistically say that a kid turning into an adult is the same as losing or gaining a few inches (not to mention on a topic I've never heard of before... no one ever mentioned Kim or Kat's height thing because it wasn't ever that noticeable)

[RyanRXP]

Kim was still the shortest of the group, as was the morphed Pink Ranger. Same with Kat... it wasn't a notable size difference. You can't realistically say that a kid turning into an adult is the same as losing or gaining a few inches (not to mention on a topic I've never heard of before... no one ever mentioned Kim or Kat's height thing because it wasn't ever that noticeable)

Kim was 5'2", and Kat was 5'10", tell me that wasn't noticable. Last I checked, Tanya was shorter than Kat.

[RyanRXP]

I must say that the ending of Jungle Fury is starting to look just like I thought it would, after the first few episodes.

I just knew that Jarrod was going to force out Dai-Shi, and then the rangers have to fight Dai-Shi's true form. Plus some how Camille will turn good, and there would be too much rangers on the team.

I have never seen the Sentai(or any Sentai), so I had nothing but other seasons to base this off of. I will say that some things have changed, but it was still very predictable. That might be the reason why I don't like the past few episodes.

[malfion]

I must say that the ending of Jungle Fury is starting to look just like I thought it would, after the first few episodes.

I just knew that Jarrod was going to force out Dai-Shi, and then the rangers have to fight Dai-Shi's true form. Plus some how Camille will turn good, and there would be too much rangers on the team.

I have never seen the Sentai(or any Sentai), so I had nothing but other seasons to base this off of. I will say that some things have changed, but it was still very predictable. That might be the reason why I don't like the past few episodes.

I liked the Phantom Ranger arc..and I even liked some episodes that everyone else didn't...and didn't like the ones everyone else did lol. I guessed the same as you, but I didn't expect the team to have 10 members. It'll end differently from the sentai...you're prediction is exactly what happened in the sentai..except they had 7 members.

[Titanium Ranger]

I must say that the ending of Jungle Fury is starting to look just like I thought it would, after the first few episodes.

I just knew that Jarrod was going to force out Dai-Shi, and then the rangers have to fight Dai-Shi's true form. Plus some how Camille will turn good, and there would be too much rangers on the team.

I have never seen the Sentai(or any Sentai), so I had nothing but other seasons to base this off of. I will say that some things have changed, but it was still very predictable. That might be the reason why I don't like the past few episodes.

Like he said, it's close to the sentai world. very close, save for the Camille part. If they follow through with that (and I hope they do), Camille dies a crushing death thanks to the Avalon Dragon.

The past few episodes were predictable? The Spirit Rangers hype has been building up for quite a while now... loads of discussion has been carried out so after all that, yeah, they probably were. But PR carried out the arc in a unique fashion, which wasn't predictable. If you want to say the major plot was predictable, heck, every episode is. Monster shows up, ranger fights monster, there's probably a sub-plot, rangers defeat monster, good triumphs.

[RyanRXP]

I hate the spirit rangers, for once I would like there to not be a villian who turns good. Will Camille die, I highly doubt it, she will probably turn human. I just want once for there to be somthing unexpected. The only thing hat hapened, in the past few years, that surprised me was Mack being a robot. But that was because I put way too much faith in Disney, my exact words were "Not even Disney would do something that dumb and unthoughtfull"

And if anyone says that the spirit rangers were original, explain to me how a group of evil rangers that turn good, is original.

I hold Jungle Fury to a higher standard, than seasons like Overdrive and Mystic Force, but only because of the earlier episodes. I have it ranked at 10th out of all 16 seasons, but it is at a high risk of falling to 11. It was ranked 9th, but fell from that, now it is about to fall behind Turbo. I really don't think the ending will be good at all, judging on the rest of Disney's seasons.

[Zero]

I have to agree with Ryan. I mean, I agree with you too TR, but..
In the realm of PR, it's almost sickening how obvious this is. But, maybe they'll throw a curve ball and reveal Dai Shi's true form to be Rio's Griffon Armor.. I don't know.. But.. It's probably Long's final form.. But.. Who knows..
Jarrod's voice became sinister and gravelly when Dai Shi possessed him, I wonder if Dai-Shi's true voice is Christian Bale's Batman voice. I'd 'ROFL' if such were the case.

Again, I don't know, I just hope it makes up for this season.. I really wanted to like this season, but.. Eh.. It escapes me..
Anywho, before I get flamed out again..


Note: Although this material was constructed with hateful feelings behind it, it is, and always will be, JUST MY OPINION. I am not cutting down your's or nor anyone else's opinion. Take no offense, I meant none, please understand that I am simply voicing my opinion in a discussion realm, where such things are allowed. Please don't start with "Well if you hate it don't watch it" because I obviously cannot answer that question without coming across as a complete mental case to some people, of which will remain, un-named. Thanks for reading!

[Hikaru Todoroki R1]

I have to agree with Ryan. I mean, I agree with you too TR, but..
In the realm of PR, it's almost sickening how obvious this is. But, maybe they'll throw a curve ball and reveal Dai Shi's true form to be Rio's Griffon Armor.. I don't know.. But.. It's probably Long's final form.. But.. Who knows..
Jarrod's voice became sinister and gravelly when Dai Shi possessed him, I wonder if Dai-Shi's true voice is Christian Bale's Batman voice. I'd 'ROFL' if such were the case.

Again, I don't know, I just hope it makes up for this season.. I really wanted to like this season, but.. Eh.. It escapes me..
Anywho, before I get flamed out again..


Note: Although this material was constructed with hateful feelings behind it, it is, and always will be, JUST MY OPINION. I am not cutting down your's or nor anyone else's opinion. Take no offense, I meant none, please understand that I am simply voicing my opinion in a discussion realm, where such things are allowed. Please don't start with "Well if you hate it don't watch it" because I obviously cannot answer that question without coming across as a complete mental case to some people, of which will remain, un-named. Thanks for reading!

I don't wanna do this, and don't want to offend you guys, but if you're gonna continue your stupid hatred (which I'm afraid you will spread it to Kamen Rider Dragon Knight and RPM next year), simply leave this area of discussion and don't bother coming back with negative opinions that will make us PR and JF fans feel extremely offended and stupid. Seriously. It's not rocket science.Some of us here may have started stuff that caused major drama but you're just fuelling it and making it more worse.

And I'm not saying that I hate what you say about JF, therefore I respect your opinions. You may hate JF with your heart, soul, mind, and strength, but, I'm sorry, this is too much for most of us to handle. Again, just LEAVE, and don't bother coming back with more of your negative shit that'll bring us all down.

[Pinkranger]

Ok I am soooooo behind on JF, watched only 10 episodes, so which episodes are important for watch like skip the pointless ones lol mainly as I don't have time to watch them all :p

If anyone could help that would be great :D

[Zero]

Spirit Ranger Arc is something to invest in, the past three episodes in essence.

Err..
You'll probably want to watch Dominick's debut..

anndd.. Probably you'll want to watch this Monday's episode (If you're in the USA).

[Hikaru Todoroki R1]

Ok I am soooooo behind on JF, watched only 10 episodes, so which episodes are important for watch like skip the pointless ones lol mainly as I don't have time to watch them all :p

If anyone could help that would be great :D

One episode you should ignore is "No 'I' In Leader", which was a huge letdown. I would say Race to the Nexus, Arise the Crystal Eyes, Fear and the Phantoms, One Last Second Chance...that's all I can think of.

[ThisSpaceForRent]

I guess some things will ALWAYS defy logical explainations *ehem*. But anyway, I'm going to be waiting with bated breath until the next episode.

[Hikaru Todoroki R1]

I guess some things will ALWAYS defy logical explainations *ehem*. But anyway, I'm going to be waiting with bated breath until the next episode.

I really hate to see another battle of opinions. To me, it's just building up more nonsense drama, more nonsense complaints, more nonsense arguments.

Seriously, give it a rest, people.

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

I don't wanna do this, and don't want to offend you guys, but if you're gonna continue your stupid hatred (which I'm afraid you will spread it to Kamen Rider Dragon Knight and RPM next year), simply leave this area of discussion and don't bother coming back with negative opinions that will make us PR and JF fans feel extremely offended and stupid. Seriously. It's not rocket science.Some of us here may have started stuff that caused major drama but you're just fuelling it and making it more worse.

And I'm not saying that I hate what you say about JF, therefore I respect your opinions. You may hate JF with your heart, soul, mind, and strength, but, I'm sorry, this is too much for most of us to handle. Again, just LEAVE, and don't bother coming back with more of your negative shit that'll bring us all down.

Negative? look at the hate that was spewed on the TF/Inspace topic! It's human nature and by now you know it's what's done best here: attempting to destroy anyone's opinion that doesn't match yours or someone gets alot of flack for expressing a personal opinion(this person clearly wrote it is HIS opinion) and this "just leave" remark is just fanning the flames

[Legendary.]

Everyone is entitled to hate what they want.

Like I said Jungle fury is pregnant with my babies=P

[Izout]

I honestly don't get why some fans are getting pissy over people saying negative things said about JF, barking at them, and telling them to either stop watching or leave the thread? Fans have a right to dislike something and still enjoy the show itself. They should have to be told to leave just because you can't handle hearinf negative things said about your favorite show. We all can't just give mindless praise all the time.

And it's not like complaining about the show is a bad thing. It's because of fans complaining about how Tommy lost his powers got us Return of a Old Friend and thus, Zyu2. From what I heard from Chris Funaro ,it's because of fans complaining about how TF ended that made Reinforcements From the Future what it was. It was because of fans complaining about the problems in NS that help Doug make DT what it was.

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

I wonder has anyone interviewed and of JF's production team? I wanna know how some of them react to fan criticism, do they care or even attempt to please in the smallest ways possible? Are they even aware that there's just too damn many explosion in PR? LOL

[RyanRXP]

I wonder has anyone interviewed and of JF's production team? I wanna know how some of them react to fan criticism, do they care or even attempt to please in the smallest ways possible? Are they even aware that there's just too damn many explosion in PR? LOL

I'd go with, they don't care. I think that Koichi Sakamoto(head of stunts) likes them, and he is the only person left from MMPR, so I think he has alot of power over that. But this is all just my opinion:D

[ThisSpaceForRent]

Honestly, does anybody even understand the concept of 'discussion' anymore?

My problem isn't with the constant JF hate...my problem is with people who seem to go out of their way to hate on it. Oh, and wanting it to be GekiRanger with Kiwi actors. That annoys me, too.

Look, criticism and nagging are two completely different things. Apparently, not enough people here know that. Criticism...You discuss problems at length, pinpointing distinct instances, occurances, themes, etc. that you don't like and talking, sensibly,about why exactly you don't like them in a way that doesn't make you come off looking like a spoilt child.

Nagging is making consistently negative remarks without having anything intellegent to say. Nagging is what 90% of fandom is...though in PR it seems to be a good 95%.

So, yeah. You don't have to like JF. You can even TALK about why you don't...but don't expect the fans of the season to sit here and read it over and over again...especially if you don't ever document any kind of sensical argument as to WHY you don't like it.

[Pink Ninja Ranger]

So how many episodes are left of Jungle Fury?

[Hikaru Todoroki R1]

So how many episodes are left of Jungle Fury?

Well, it looks like we're getting 32 episodes, so 7 episodes left.

[Green Space Ranger]

Just noticed something. Look closely at the intro to Once Last Second Chance and you will see the Spirit Rangers Morphing/energising sequesnce.

[Jyukai Rahziel Azu]

Honestly, does anybody even understand the concept of 'discussion' anymore?

My problem isn't with the constant JF hate...my problem is with people who seem to go out of their way to hate on it. Oh, and wanting it to be GekiRanger with Kiwi actors. That annoys me, too.

Look, criticism and nagging are two completely different things. Apparently, not enough people here know that. Criticism...You discuss problems at length, pinpointing distinct instances, occurances, themes, etc. that you don't like and talking, sensibly,about why exactly you don't like them in a way that doesn't make you come off looking like a spoilt child.

Nagging is making consistently negative remarks without having anything intellegent to say. Nagging is what 90% of fandom is...though in PR it seems to be a good 95%.

So, yeah. You don't have to like JF. You can even TALK about why you don't...but don't expect the fans of the season to sit here and read it over and over again...especially if you don't ever document any kind of sensical argument as to WHY you don't like it.


JF is a watchable season, not the greatest to me, this is true

The Spirit Rangers are a welcomed extra effort, I take it this is a apologizing attempt to make up for the lack of team-ups, which is an issue I DON'T blame on the season itself. But I thought it could have been executed a little better. I mean, what was it about the crystal eyes power power that made them battle the rangers? Did the Phantom Beasts create them? If so, how did they get sealed in them? (I forgot)

Everyone knows that I learned to ignore the solar morphers, nice attempt, lame device

Everyone's getting on Casey's back because of his very human struggle of him working his way up to leading the team and getting upset when RJ started calling the shots on the field. I watched No I in leader and RJ apologized for getting overzealous as a ranger and told Casey to trust his instincts like Rj believes in them. Now it hit me! This is the ep that pushes Casey down the tiger instinct path and i was too busy taling the hardcore JF fans advice to ignore the ep, which I found not bad....

What's the deal with the fight scenes? I