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transformering101
08-20-2008, 05:57 PM
What 5 Rangers do you never want to see again? Excluding the fallowing 7: Tommy, Justin, Rocky, Chip, Cole, Jack and Bridge.

Here are my five.
Dustin
Danny
Trip
Katie
Will

Titanium Ranger
08-20-2008, 06:24 PM
Camille
Camille
Camille
Camille
Camille

Too annoying.. I hate her.


Just in case she counts as one ranger only, others would be:

Vida - I don't even need to explain why

Jen - The actress is fine, but the character's too bossy (hope we don't start a discussion on that here)

Danny - He was weird. Seeing he had a bison animal, he could've been so much more. I never saw how he was the strongest of the group, aside from that one time he tossed minions around.

Will (if I have to pick a fifth) - That smile he always wore.... just mega-bad acting. Now that I think about it, maybe it was supposed to indicate cockiness...

Jiemusu
08-20-2008, 06:30 PM
Max
Danny
Dax
Will
Mack

Kawaii Japan Lover
08-20-2008, 06:31 PM
WILL! (I tend to get emphatic when I think of Will)
Taylor
Kelsey
Zhane
Katie

SteelSpaceRanger
08-20-2008, 06:34 PM
Vida
Dax- he will never live up to the awesomeness that is bridge
Kimberley
Tyzonne- worst 6th ranger ever
Mack

RyanRXP
08-20-2008, 10:12 PM
You just had to not allow Bridge, and Tommy(the first 2 I thought of when I saw the title)

Syd
Adam(done with him comming back)
And any 3 from Overdrive(you can pick yourself)

Green Space Ranger
08-20-2008, 10:14 PM
the main 5 wild force rangers

cant stand them

tsda
08-20-2008, 10:15 PM
My list isn't big: only Tommy and Danny (although you can't count them ¬¬) and Max (as I recall).

Rebelde
08-20-2008, 10:17 PM
Tommy, Justin, Theo, Adam, Dax

RyanRXP
08-20-2008, 10:34 PM
Tommy, Justin, Theo, Adam, Dax

Did you even read the first post? You put down 2 rangers that were listed as "rangers you can't choose".

tsda
08-20-2008, 10:41 PM
Did you even read the first post? You put down 2 rangers that were listed as "rangers you can't choose".

Lol, I did the same - although I already corrected it. Blame my laziness of reading the first post for it. XD

Kazyya
08-21-2008, 12:17 AM
#1. Rocky. He completely destroyed the red ranger image and he was lame as a ranger anyway.
#2. Tommy. He did not deserve to be, white ranger, red zeo ranger,leader and is overrated and over used.
#3.Billy. He never really did anything for me.
#4. Aisha. I never really noticed her. She was kind of boring.
#5.Justin. He should have been on Beetle Borgs

Jiemusu
08-21-2008, 12:23 AM
People need to read the first post, I'm seeing alot of Rangers that were excluded for use in the first post.

#1. Rocky. He completely destroyed the red ranger image and he was lame as a ranger anyway.
#2. Tommy. He did not deserve to be, white ranger, red zeo ranger,leader and is overrated and over used.
#3.Billy. He never really did anything for me.
#4. Aisha. I never really noticed her. She was kind of boring.
#5.Justin. He should have been on Beetle Borgs

1. How could he have 'completely destroyed' the image when no one thinks of him as the Red Ranger, only Blue Zeo, and we had Tommy, TJ and Andros after, who get praised for their status as Red Ranger, as do every other Red Ranger after? Name me one Red Ranger who's image was damaged because of Rocky.

2. I agree with the Tommy part by the way, completely. To be honest, he was probably the worst choice for leader, what with all the forgetting, the sulking, and the general laziness to cooperate as a contributing team member.

That's all I've got.

transformering101
08-21-2008, 12:32 AM
People need to read the first post, I'm seeing alot of Rangers that were excluded for use in the first post.

Tell me about it. I want to expand and reset this pole http://www.rangertalk.com/showthread.php?t=934 However i am not gonna ask a mod until i get a few list that fallows the rules. FYI. the pole options wont open.

RyanRXP
08-21-2008, 12:36 AM
People need to read the first post, I'm seeing alot of Rangers that were excluded for use in the first post.

I've noticed that people not reading the first post is common with alot of threads. Too bad:(

Kazyya
08-21-2008, 12:38 AM
People need to read the first post, I'm seeing alot of Rangers that were excluded for use in the first post.



1. How could he have 'completely destroyed' the image when no one thinks of him as the Red Ranger, only Blue Zeo, and we had Tommy, TJ and Andros after, who get praised for their status as Red Ranger, as do every other Red Ranger after? Name me one Red Ranger who's image was damaged because of Rocky.


That's all I've got.


I would say it damaged Jason's and a boost for Tommy. Here is my reasons. When Jason left and was replaced, Tommy being nominated leader was able to shine even more because the red ranger then started to suck. If Jason would have stayed I don't think Tommy would have gotten all the glory-Spotlight-leadership title because if you noticed the first day as leader Tommy even said himself he needed Jason and in the Zeo series It was amazing how much Tommy needed Jason.Who really is the better leader???=Jason. Another point is that Rocky sucked so bad as red ranger that when it came time for Zeo the red ranger image was tainted and low and behold Tommy for some reason is given the red ranger title and still retaining the leadership title for some strange reason(favoritism) while Rocky gets demoted and Billy gets fired.If you ask me Adam would have been a good choice as red zeo ranger.But if Jason would have stayed he would have been red zeo ranger and the image would have not been tainted. Tommy or Zach more than likely would have been green zeo or gold ranger.

RyanRXP
08-21-2008, 12:45 AM
#1. Rocky. He completely destroyed the red ranger image and he was lame as a ranger anyway.
#5.Justin. He should have been on Beetle Borgs

How did Rocky destoy the image of what a red ranger is? Do you not like him because he wasn't the leader, because Jason allowed Tommy to be the leader. Rocky just gets a bad deal because he had to follow some one like Jason.

Justin's actor was too much of a high calibur actor for Beetleborgs(1 word:)) People forget that Blake Foster was a successful child star.

Chriz
08-21-2008, 12:55 AM
1st - R.J. from Jungle fury. I hate his character so much it's not funny. He's worse than Justin to me.

2nd - Danny from Wild force - So annoying plus bad acting.

3rd - Alien rangers (I know it's a group but i needed them all on it and wouldn't have enough room with R.J at top.) 'Nuff said.

4th - T. J. from turbo and space. In space I could tolerate him but as red he was the worst red ranger ever. I do not like this character

5th - Mack operation overdrive - annoying

Tommy5
08-21-2008, 01:45 AM
Max
Will
Sky
Trip

KamenRiderKiva
08-21-2008, 02:06 AM
Justin

that name alone compensates for 5 mediocre rangers

Jyukai Rahziel Azu
08-21-2008, 01:26 PM
Carlos
Chip
Zhane
Dustin
Dax

ForeverBlack
08-21-2008, 08:06 PM
The Justin hate is getting old..most of you just didn't like the series and had to blame it on someone...

Rocky was a replacement jock with no leadership skills.
Aisha was pretty useless imo
Kimberly was..uninteresting.
Same goes for Kat.
And..hmm,thats it.

KamenRiderKiva
08-21-2008, 08:11 PM
let's see, the emo trips, the whole "I'm a super pre-teen genius that can go toe to toe in high school with seniors", more emo "i want my daddy" trips...

you can stop me at any time

Jiemusu
08-21-2008, 08:14 PM
There are plently of reasons why Justin was terrible.

As well as plently of reasons, excluding him, on why Turbo was poor.

People who say 'Oh you're just using Justin as a way to blame Turbo, he's just a kid, get over it' are the ones who are trying to defend Turbo, but can't find any pros to give about the season, so they just defend Justin (when most of the Turbo blames aren't even directed at him).

ForeverBlack
08-21-2008, 08:22 PM
You've yet to give any cons though Jie,so I'm waiting to hear why Justin and Turbo are so bad..

and BVR,that's what goes on in life.Just because your life may not be like Justin's doesn't mean you have to hate the guy.

Jiemusu
08-21-2008, 08:32 PM
I don't need to give any cons really, the burden of proof lies on your shoulders. It's you who needs to give pros of Turbo.

As it happens, I'll give cons anyway. And I will expect someone to counter it with some pros, if they are any.


Didn't follow on from Zeo barely at all. the Machine Empire just vanished, the Zeo powers were still active, it was totally unflowed.
Divatox was an annoying villain who didn't do anything special. Her brother, however, did.
Scrapping Zordon and Alpha 5, bringing in Dimitria and Alpha 6, for no reason whatsoever.
The way the power transfer just happened, an 'Oh hi, ok bye' kind of thing. Completely new rangers, mid-season.
It was like they took Zeo, got rid of all the things that made Zeo great, and basterdized it.
No interesting twists or tricks, no deep storylines.


Now, for the Justin cons.


Trying to make him out to be an incredibly smart child genius, yet they gave him complete zero common sense. It didn't blend.
Trying to pass a child in the 'older teenage' world. It didn't work, at all.
As stated above, the constant 'oh daddy' and crap. I have no beef with Justin being a child, but that doesn't mean he has to act like a stereotypical child each episode.


I await for someone to give me some pros of Turbo, rather than defending one thing that people hate on.

KamenRiderKiva
08-21-2008, 08:37 PM
trust me, i've been through a lot, but let's put that aside for a second and place events in life in "ranger verse":

-the whole idea for a show is for a lighter show, close to home, but not too realistic, if i wanna see someone moping and being annoying, i can turn on HBO or NBC
-He comes out as a Uber-Genius, i know there are kids like that in the world, but someone as cocky and unbearable as him? hardly
-He even drove some of the rangers insane, both old guard and new gen
-He was just a tactic to approach younger kids, sacrificing Steve Cardenas in the process, they could've waited until he recuperated, but no...

that's my main reasons, i'm sure there are plenty more but i dont wanna start something that rifts fellow members, after all, we are friends

ForeverBlack
08-21-2008, 08:38 PM
Call it whatever you want buddy,I'm just tired of hearing Turbo hate.

1.So what villians from MMPR to Turbo weren't annoying at all?..
2.I think they said Zordon had to 'recharge' or something like that,so he took a leave of absence.
3.I personally thought that the Turbo power should only have been used to save Rocky and Kim..but then again,if the power was only in the movie,people would likely want to see more of that..I sure did.
4.So every single series needs to have a trick or twist in it?..they needed to pull a 'Luke,I am your father'?I think they just wanted kids to relate and enjoy the show,thats all.

as for Justin..

1.You can be a complete genius but still know little about the world around you.It's like the classic nerd who stays in their room and hides from society.
2.At least they tried,it may have worked for people other than yourself.
3.He missed his father,I don't see what's wrong with that.

Jiemusu
08-21-2008, 08:44 PM
Call it whatever you want buddy,I'm just tired of hearing Turbo hate.

1.So what villians from MMPR to Turbo weren't annoying at all?..
2.I think they said Zordon had to 'recharge' or something like that,so he took a leave of absence.
3.I personally thought that the Turbo power should only have been used to save Rocky and Kim..but then again,if the power was only in the movie,people would likely want to see more of that..I sure did.
4.So every single series needs to have a trick or twist in it?..they needed to pull a 'Luke,I am your father'?I think they just wanted kids to relate and enjoy the show,thats all.

as for Justin..

1.You can be a complete genius but still know little about the world around you.It's like the classic nerd who stays in their room and hides from society.
2.At least they tried,it may have worked for people other than yourself.
3.He missed his father,I don't see what's wrong with that.

1. Nope
2. Either way, it was a flawed move, an awful decision, a reason why Turbo fails.
3. It's not that they used the Carranger suits, it's that they didn't tie off the Ohranger suits correctly.
4. It makes for good storytelling and season depth, and Turbo didn't have it. So Turbo fails.

Well, you wanted other reasons why Turbo sucks. You got them. ;) My point still stands, you've yet to give any pros for Turbo.

You know.

I could say you are backing up Justin and Turbo just because of your Rocky hate. :p

It's sort of the same principle really, bias hate.

ForeverBlack
08-21-2008, 08:48 PM
1.So they were all a bit annoying,there.
2.For people like you,obviously it was.
3.You must be the only person who feels that way about those suits.
4.It fails because it lacks something you like to see...wow,ok then.

Well I countered your reasons,so I've got no regrets.;)

I'm not trying to back up anything,I know why you hate Turbo,but not everyone else..everyone else just blames Justin.

oh,and I may HATE Rocky,but I don't hate an entire series because of him.

Jiemusu
08-21-2008, 08:50 PM
1.So they were all a bit annoying,there.
2.For people like you,obviously it was.
3.You must be the only person who feels that way about those suits.
4.It fails because it lacks something you like to see...wow,ok then.

Well I countered your reasons,so I've got no regrets.;)

I'm not trying to back up anything,I know why you hate Turbo,but not everyone else..everyone else just blames Justin.

oh,and I may HATE Rocky,but I don't hate an entire series because of him.

No you haven't. Fans worldwide feel the same way about Turbo than I do, and it's the public reception that judges a season's reputation.

I'm still waiting for you to give the pros of Turbo. As it happens, you haven't given any yet. I wonder why that is.

Because you haven't given me any Turbo pros. I'm left to say that the season is poor. Because even if someone who is backing up the season can't give me any pros for it, that says alot about it.

The point is, Justin's character sucks, and people don't like it, because nothing blended right. The same would go for any other character, regardless of age. In many ways, I'm not hating Justin because he is a kid, I'm judging him on the same levels and ways I judge other ranger characters that suck. People want Justin as an equal, I'm judging him as an equal.

ForeverBlack
08-21-2008, 08:53 PM
God..when was the last time I checked out Turbo..xD..

let me try to remember,haven't seen much since I was a young kid.

and again..YOU are the one who thinks nothing blended right..your probably one of the few who actually think about it.Others just thought he was annoying.That's all I'm saying.

I've got a pro that almost everyone likes..

-A Fresh Start.

I'm liking the new stories told,and JF isn't too bad,even after NS drove me away.

EDIT: Ok,you keep thinking your right about everything that comes out of your mouth then.I'm not doing that,even if it seems like it.I'm taking in what you say and considering it,but counter anyway.The point is,you have your own opinion,others have theirs..so we should listen to you then?

KamenRiderKiva
08-21-2008, 08:53 PM
There is also synergy and the chemistry between characters, and interaction with the viewer, and justin didnt deliver, at least in my case

Jiemusu
08-21-2008, 08:56 PM
Seems there are more cons than pros for Turbo, interesting.

Anyway, just ask anyone who doesn't like Turbo, they'll probably agree with me too.

People can like Turbo, that's fine. But as it goes, the cons outweight the pros, that's how it is. People can choose to accept that, or be in denial.

ForeverBlack
08-21-2008, 08:58 PM
Every show has faults,Con's can outweigh Pro's but the show can still be good if you adapt to the change,and accept the faults made.

And they'll likely agree with you because you've made reasons that they wouldn't even dream of.I'm glad you actually thought it out though.Good Discussion.

KamenRiderKiva
08-21-2008, 08:58 PM
Thats true, and as a result we got a helluva season in In Space

Jiemusu
08-21-2008, 10:51 PM
Lol, you make out like I like Time Force.

I never saw the hype with that one either.

RyanRXP
08-21-2008, 11:33 PM
Why are you people getting all worked up about a character that is not even a part of this thread? Justin was banned in the first post. Did you even read the fist post? I doubt it.

Jiemusu
08-21-2008, 11:40 PM
I read the first post, and even pointed it out to people who hadn't, and avoided nominating Justin for my list actually.

But when there is a heated debate, I just can't say no. :D

ForeverBlack
08-21-2008, 11:43 PM
No one was really debating anything..I posted,and you wanted to argue.that's it,lol.

DarkBlaze
08-21-2008, 11:59 PM
Seriously guy's, if you just READ the first post, none of this would have started. The dude clearly said, "Excluding the fallowing 7: Tommy, Justin, Rocky, Chip, Cole, Jack and Bridge." Is it possible you all can draw away from those 7...and focus on others? There's a logical reason why he excluded them.

Jiemusu
08-22-2008, 12:02 AM
Thing is, I never mentioned any of those in my lineup. Not one, not at all. I even pointed out to members how they haven't read the first post because they kept saying names that were excluded.

Yes, I talked about them, but I never mentioned them in my list. I mentioned them because I go by the forum rule of "It's always better to post in an existing thread than to start a new one". A discussion started, I wanted to keep it contained rather than just 'making new threads' when I felt like it for every tiny thing.

ForeverBlack
08-22-2008, 12:02 AM
Thanks mom,you always know best -_-.

Jiemusu
08-22-2008, 12:05 AM
Out of interest.

Are you actually the moderator of this section? Because it says you are when it lists the 'moderators of the section' below on the section's main page, yet it doesn't indicate it on your user title.

No beef, just interested.

DarkBlaze
08-22-2008, 12:08 AM
^Yes, I'm a mod.

^^ForeverBlack, your comment wasn't needed. Thank you.

I was simply pointing out to those individuals that did list one or more of those 7.

ForeverBlack
08-22-2008, 12:10 AM
Whatever you say.


Dustin's comic relief,and I hate to say this,but he needs to go.

DarkBlaze
08-22-2008, 12:12 AM
What?! Dustin was like...one of the most realistic characters we've ever had. I can so relate to him (if I were back in my old days).

But, if that's your opinion, I totally respect it. I just think Dustin was simply an enjoyable guy, and I'd love to see another of him around someday.

ForeverBlack
08-22-2008, 12:15 AM
What else would it be?..

Also..Shane and Tori are close to the edge..Early Cam does too,thank god he matured a little.

2580
08-22-2008, 01:11 AM
I really only have three: Billy, Carlos, and Zhane.

DaiRed
08-22-2008, 02:30 AM
The whole Overdrive team.:cool:

Ernde38
08-22-2008, 02:33 AM
Kendrix, Cole, Danny, Taylor, and Max.

RyanRXP
08-22-2008, 05:03 AM
I read the first post, and even pointed it out to people who hadn't, and avoided nominating Justin for my list actually.

But when there is a heated debate, I just can't say no. :D

I didn't mean you, I was just reminding people that Justin was not a part of the thread. I saw more and more people started listing Justin(not you) Look I know you didn't start all of the Justin talk, but you were fighting about it. I was just trying to help you get back on topic(I know how easy it is to get caught up in an argument)

HMR
08-22-2008, 07:22 AM
Personally, I think restricting the choices of characters is not exactly the best way to go about this. That being said, here is my list:

Justin- I loved turbo EXCEPT for him. Saban was just trying too hard.
Nick- I get it. Nick is special... good for him... I don't care
Tommy, Post-season 3- Tommy was an okay character until around season 3. All that limelight he got made me get sick of him, and fast.
Cruger- He was a dick. Plain and simple.
Cast of OO, sans Rose- Other than Rose, I pretty much hatted the OO cast. They were rather too dumb or too annoying to like.

And, if anyone has a problem that I used the listed characers from the first post... meh, I'm not really carring.

Also, side note. If this thread begins to spiral into a "Justin is the scourge of the PRVerse yet again and ruined Turbo" fight again, I'm shutting this thread down.

transformering101
08-22-2008, 08:15 PM
To anyone whom thinks the exclutions are wrong.

I excluded them: Tommy, Justin, Rocky, Chip, Cole, Jack and Bridge for a reason. If i had'nt I have a thread with the same answers with the same reasons. Don't you get sick of hearing the same reponds? Also it provents blaming a seasons' bad parts on those characters. Finally to HMR, i believe Darkproject already solved the flaming of justin thing.

RyanRXP
08-22-2008, 08:24 PM
To anyone whom thinks the exclutions are wrong.

I excluded them: Tommy, Justin, Rocky, Chip, Cole, Jack and Bridge for a reason. If i had'nt I have a thread with the same answers with the same reasons. Don't you get sick of hearing the same reponds? Also it provents blaming a seasons' bad parts on those characters. Finally to HMR, i believe Darkproject already solved the flaming of justin thing.

I don't uderstand why anyone would have a problems with excluding them. Even after you excluded them, they were always on everyones lists, proof of the reason you excluded them.

GekiViper
08-22-2008, 08:38 PM
The whole Jungle Fury team.

Casey - Nothing sticks out to me, nothing that sets him apart from anyone else in the whole wide world. He's not special, he's not smart, he's just an average guy that fell into being a power ranger. He doesn't even feel like a leader, he's just the guy in the red suit trying to get noticed. I don't know if you guys think that's a selling point, but I don't, and that's just me.

Theo - Hey there short guy, where's your green three piece suit, with the top hat that has a four leaf clover in it? Aww, left it at home? Oh well, do that little dance you do! Yeah, this whole character is wrong. It's backwards, and honestly I could live the rest of my life with out Theo's character ever reappearing on TV. I mean, seriously, it's bad. Further more.. It's the Justin phenomenon again.. He grows like 2 feet when he morphs! Hello! If you cast someone to match 5'11" footage, you don't cast someone who's 5'2!

Lily - Thanks for trying sweetheart. I really don't care for this character either. It's like she has anger issues she takes out on the monsters, and Rinrishi when she morphs, with all the screaming, growling, grunting, and then when the suit comes off, she's happy-go-lucky goodie-goodie Lily that just goes through life as the only beam of PURE sunlight on the face of the planet. I've gotten so annoyed with her, really really.

RJ -"Please, redesign the suit! *Crosses Fingers*" Now that was a caption from when RJ first made his appearance on the TV and I connected that he was going to be the American GekiViolet equivalent. But they didn't, thus a life long tree hugging, toilet paper recycling hippy, gets a Thai Boxing/Fighting themed suit.. Not only that, his hand mannerisms are wayyy to Jack Sparrow'ish, and here, I come across news that Disney's afraid that the Go-Onger's talking zords will remind kids too much of Cars.. UGH!! Yet they have a "Green" Jack Sparrow prancing around "Ocean Bluff". Had RJ been Disney's Black Puma Ranger, or even the Cougar or Leopard Ranger, I would've highly approved of it. But RJ just doesn't strike me as the owner of a wolf spirit, he's not a loner, in fact I honestly only recall three or four times that he was by himself this whole series. Even his back story leaves a lot to be desired, I don't know I had high hopes and they were smashed to bits by RJ being the Wolf Ranger.

Dominick -Wow, you sir, are like the team mate, no one wants. I don't know, I just really don't approve of him. PR junkies cry to the Sentai Snobs that we push the idea of PR mirroring SS too much, but.. Really.. Dominick is a CLONE of Ken, watch the footage, Dominick acts like Ken, talks like Ken, and aside from waving the "RhinoBlade" around like it's a dinner knife, is every bit of what makes up Ken. For those of you who haven't seen GekiRanger, Ken is "GekiChopper" i.e. "RhinoRanger" from the Super Sentai Series GekiRanger. Just a side note.

Oh, and while we're on the topic of Epic Failure, can we just throw Tyzonn into mix, 'cause honestly, alien guy + bad wig + bad series to begin with = Epic Fail.

Note: Although this material was constructed, written, and read aloud with hateful feelings behind it, it is, and always will be, JUST MY OPINION. I am not cutting down your's or nor anyone else's opinion. My anger and disgust is there in all of it's ugly form above, take no offense, I meant none, please understand that I am simply voicing my opinion in a discussion realm, where such things are allowed. Please don't start with "Well if you hate it don't watch it" because I obviously cannot answer that question without coming across as a complete mental case to some people, of which will remain, un-named as they have been put on my ignore list, AGAIN.. Anywho.. Hope I made you chuckle just a couple times..


-JGV

golden_phantom_ranger
08-22-2008, 09:39 PM
The whole Overdrive team.:cool:

i completely agree. also all of wildforce but merrick he made that season

GekiViper
08-22-2008, 09:42 PM
i completely agree. also all of wildforce but merrick he made that season
Merrick, ohh.. Man..
I wish RJ would act more like Merrick, and be more wolf'ly! I mean, Merrick had his own set of rules that had him butting heads with the Princess all the time, but gosh.. I totally miss Merrick..

Revived Interest
08-22-2008, 10:07 PM
From most hated to slightly less hated:

1. Danny

2. Dax

3. Max

4. Cole

5. Justin

HMR
08-22-2008, 10:25 PM
To anyone whom thinks the exclutions are wrong.

I excluded them: Tommy, Justin, Rocky, Chip, Cole, Jack and Bridge for a reason. If i had'nt I have a thread with the same answers with the same reasons. Don't you get sick of hearing the same reponds? Also it provents blaming a seasons' bad parts on those characters. Finally to HMR, i believe Darkproject already solved the flaming of justin thing.

Hey, I was just giving everyone in this thread a general warning. No more spiraling out of control about why a ranger ruined a season. And, to be honest, excluding something because it's a common answer is not the best way to go about something.

"The JF, OO, and MF cast has been ragged on a lot, let's exclude them now!"

See the point I'm trying to make? Just because you know an answer is going to be common, doesn't mean it should be excluded at the get-go.

Ernde38
08-22-2008, 10:29 PM
i completely agree. also all of wildforce but merrick he made that season

I agree on everything you said, except for one thing. I could tolerate Alyssa, just because she looked good. The rest of that cast though (not counting Forever Red) stunk like the barns at a county fair!

HMR
08-22-2008, 11:48 PM
Why? because, I don't want to see 5000 similar threads pop within a week of one another. Making a thread with a general topic helps stop that. Also, just because one person says something in the first post, doesn't mean it will carry on. Threads change so much from the first post to the last.

Now, consider this subject closed, because it keeps getting this thread off-topic. I was just giving my two cents about why I didn't see the point of excluding characters, in a thread titled "The 5 Rangers you never want to see again!" For some reason, you seem to want to jump on my case about it.

Hikaru Todoroki R1
08-23-2008, 12:56 AM
Why? because, I don't want to see 5000 similar threads pop within a week of one another. Making a thread with a general topic helps stop that. Also, just because one person says something in the first post, doesn't mean it will carry on. Threads change so much from the first post to the last.

Now, consider this subject closed, because it keeps getting this thread off-topic. I was just giving my two cents about why I didn't see the point of excluding characters, in a thread titled "The 5 Rangers you never want to see again!" For some reason, you seem to want to jump on my case about it.

I for one support what you think, HMR. Thank you.

And I don't wanna sound like I'm going off-topic, but to me, this is just building up towards the drama we had before, and I believe we're going on that road again.

2580
08-23-2008, 01:46 AM
Please don't start with "Well if you hate it don't watch it" because I obviously cannot answer that question without coming across as a complete mental case to some people, of which will remain, un-named as they have been put on my ignore list, AGAIN.. Anywho.. Hope I made you chuckle just a couple times..

I think it's silly to ignore people and you might understand why by watching this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qVuE_I6Y1g), but I'm going to give you my two cents even if you choose to ignore me for like the third time.

Theo - Hey there short guy, where's your green three piece suit, with the top hat that has a four leaf clover in it? Aww, left it at home? Oh well, do that little dance you do! Yeah, this whole character is wrong. It's backwards, and honestly I could live the rest of my life with out Theo's character ever reappearing on TV. I mean, seriously, it's bad. Further more.. It's the Justin phenomenon again.. He grows like 2 feet when he morphs! Hello! If you cast someone to match 5'11" footage, you don't cast someone who's 5'2!

Wow, really? You don't like a character because his height doesn't match his stunt double's height? Even Justin-haters have more reasons to hate Justin than a height discrepency.

Lily - Thanks for trying sweetheart. I really don't care for this character either. It's like she has anger issues she takes out on the monsters, and Rinrishi when she morphs, with all the screaming, growling, grunting, and then when the suit comes off, she's happy-go-lucky goodie-goodie Lily that just goes through life as the only beam of PURE sunlight on the face of the planet. I've gotten so annoyed with her, really really.

All of the rangers have agressive voices after they morph; this is just a result of Disney taking over and it has nothing to do with the character.

RJ -"Please, redesign the suit! *Crosses Fingers*" Now that was a caption from when RJ first made his appearance on the TV and I connected that he was going to be the American GekiViolet equivalent. But they didn't, thus a life long tree hugging, toilet paper recycling hippy, gets a Thai Boxing/Fighting themed suit.. Not only that, his hand mannerisms are wayyy to Jack Sparrow'ish, and here, I come across news that Disney's afraid that the Go-Onger's talking zords will remind kids too much of Cars.. UGH!! Yet they have a "Green" Jack Sparrow prancing around "Ocean Bluff". Had RJ been Disney's Black Puma Ranger, or even the Cougar or Leopard Ranger, I would've highly approved of it. But RJ just doesn't strike me as the owner of a wolf spirit, he's not a loner, in fact I honestly only recall three or four times that he was by himself this whole series. Even his back story leaves a lot to be desired, I don't know I had high hopes and they were smashed to bits by RJ being the Wolf Ranger.

You criticize Dominick for being a Ken clone, yet you think that R.J. should be a loner like Gou? That makes a lot of sense. Wolves typically aren't solitary animals by the way; they're pack animals.

Jyukai Rahziel Azu
08-23-2008, 02:07 AM
^Dom is something like Ken when it comes to being a goof at times, but Ken doesn't pull pranks. He's just a free spirit with a big heart

RJ is no Gekiviolet, I get that and shouldn't be a carbon copy of Gou but take some of those characteristics. But I too hate seeing a Ranger do jack Sparrow's hand gestures while in-suit

GekiViper
08-23-2008, 05:39 AM
It's not worth it Jyukai.. It really isn't. We're not allowed to complain about Jungle Fury, because it hurts people's feelings, and or makes them feel "stupid".

So.. Really, it's not safe to post in the PR discussion area.. With negative things, like... Of course.. "talking trash" or "unreasonable hate" for, generally PR, because of course..

If you don't like one season..
You hate PR as a whole..

*Sigh*

Just some helpful advice to keep ya on the safe side! Don't end up like me, the big bad hate spewing demon of Sentai Snobs..

HMR
08-23-2008, 07:12 AM
It's not worth it Jyukai.. It really isn't. We're not allowed to complain about Jungle Fury, because it hurts people's feelings, and or makes them feel "stupid".

So.. Really, it's not safe to post in the PR discussion area.. With negative things, like... Of course.. "talking trash" or "unreasonable hate" for, generally PR, because of course..

If you don't like one season..
You hate PR as a whole..

*Sigh*

Just some helpful advice to keep ya on the safe side! Don't end up like me, the big bad hate spewing demon of Sentai Snobs..

Not to single you out , but let me be blunt for a moment: STOP painting yourself as a victim, especially because a) it's totally off topic of this thread, and b) you are bringing this thread off topic. I know exactly what you are talking about. It's in the past, and that is where it should stay. rehashing it only will piss people off.

Seriously, this thread is getting one more warning. If any more talks about anything other than PR characters erupts out, I'm shutting this thread down. I'm tiered of everyone's pointless bitching.

Jyukai Rahziel Azu
08-23-2008, 01:08 PM
To be fair, Dom's trickery and prank pulling really was only featured in his debut episode.



I, for one, LOVE RJ's hippie-isms. It's obvious he was inspired a bit by Captain Jack, but he's completely different. It's a new spin on that sort of 'out-there' persona, and I think it really fits. And, honestly, when has he ever gestured in the suit? I've not seen it if he has.
RJ made the gestures In:
In Arise the Crystal eyes, Wolf Ranger Debut episode and there's another I can't remember.

see herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xoZpRItDsY

and herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Czsaz6L8L8&feature=related

though the gestures are brief, you can see it. It's wierd to see RJ kick-ass out of character, that act like that once he calms down, LOL

also he does it in NO I IN LEADER

Hikaru Todoroki R1
08-23-2008, 05:48 PM
Eric was too bitchy for me...

Jiemusu
08-23-2008, 07:53 PM
I'm seeing quite a few Overdrive names pop up.

This is lulzy, because the season was so bad.

Keep it up guys. ^_^

Acatl
08-23-2008, 08:10 PM
5 rangers uh?
Mmmm....
Tommy as the Green Power Ranger
Tommy as the White Power Ranger
Tommy as the Red Zeo Ranger
Tommy as the Red Turbo Ranger
Tommy as the Black DinoThunder ranger.

Green Mystic Ranger
08-23-2008, 08:51 PM
5 rangers uh?
Mmmm....
Tommy as the Green Power Ranger
Tommy as the White Power Ranger
Tommy as the Red Zeo Ranger
Tommy as the Red Turbo Ranger
Tommy as the Black DinoThunder ranger.

Oh my god! You read my mind!! Thumbs up to you sir! :D

Ernde38
08-23-2008, 09:06 PM
I would say it damaged Jason's and a boost for Tommy. Here is my reasons. When Jason left and was replaced, Tommy being nominated leader was able to shine even more because the red ranger then started to suck. If Jason would have stayed I don't think Tommy would have gotten all the glory-Spotlight-leadership title because if you noticed the first day as leader Tommy even said himself he needed Jason and in the Zeo series It was amazing how much Tommy needed Jason.Who really is the better leader???=Jason. Another point is that Rocky sucked so bad as red ranger that when it came time for Zeo the red ranger image was tainted and low and behold Tommy for some reason is given the red ranger title and still retaining the leadership title for some strange reason(favoritism) while Rocky gets demoted and Billy gets fired.If you ask me Adam would have been a good choice as red zeo ranger.But if Jason would have stayed he would have been red zeo ranger and the image would have not been tainted. Tommy or Zach more than likely would have been green zeo or gold ranger.

Billy wasn't fired! He stepped down. You can't really say Rocky was "demoted" because he was never going to be the leader in the first place. His role was basically as just another ranger, but wearing a red suit. The day Tommy became White Ranger, was the day Jason became the 2nd in command. Don't let people on the forum fool you, Zordon said it himself that Tommy was the leader (because behind the scenes, Walter, Thuy, and Jason were only going to be around for a few more episodes).

Ernde38
08-23-2008, 09:17 PM
I don't need to give any cons really, the burden of proof lies on your shoulders. It's you who needs to give pros of Turbo.

As it happens, I'll give cons anyway. And I will expect someone to counter it with some pros, if they are any.


Didn't follow on from Zeo barely at all. the Machine Empire just vanished, the Zeo powers were still active, it was totally unflowed.
Divatox was an annoying villain who didn't do anything special. Her brother, however, did.
Scrapping Zordon and Alpha 5, bringing in Dimitria and Alpha 6, for no reason whatsoever.
The way the power transfer just happened, an 'Oh hi, ok bye' kind of thing. Completely new rangers, mid-season.
It was like they took Zeo, got rid of all the things that made Zeo great, and basterdized it.
No interesting twists or tricks, no deep storylines.


Now, for the Justin cons.


Trying to make him out to be an incredibly smart child genius, yet they gave him complete zero common sense. It didn't blend.
Trying to pass a child in the 'older teenage' world. It didn't work, at all.
As stated above, the constant 'oh daddy' and crap. I have no beef with Justin being a child, but that doesn't mean he has to act like a stereotypical child each episode.


I await for someone to give me some pros of Turbo, rather than defending one thing that people hate on.

These may not be "pros", but here's a few things about Turbo "storyline" wise that go with your list.

1. Rita Repulsa and Lord Zedd blew up The Royal Family of Gadgetry in the series finale of Zeo. They were rebuilt though (as seen in PRIS), and Rita and Zedd went on vacation. Rumor has it that Rita and Zedd were supposed to return as the main villains in PRT, but either the character actor, or the voice actor for Zedd had family problems and couldn't do it.

2. I agree on the Zordon. Alpha 5 thing. I probably wouldn't have minded Alpha 6, had he had his PRIS voice to start with.

3. Yeah, the Power Transfer was kind of rushed. I can understand why it was so poorly done in MMPRS2, but not here since all 4 actors (the originals of the season) were still participating, plus they all knew they were only working up through like the 18th episode, so they had time to make it better. The writing for this season was just bad.

4. Indeed on the "deepness". It was like they were trying to move back towards being more childish (like S1), than moving farther away from it like it seemed Zeo did.

RyanRXP
08-23-2008, 09:49 PM
5 rangers uh?
Mmmm....
Tommy as the Green Power Ranger
Tommy as the White Power Ranger
Tommy as the Red Zeo Ranger
Tommy as the Red Turbo Ranger
Tommy as the Black DinoThunder ranger.

Oh my god! You read my mind!! Thumbs up to you sir! :D

Did you to read the first post? If not then let me point out one thing from it, Tommy is not a choice. transformering101 said he does not have Tommy as a choice because everyone will chose him, so if you want to obey the rules of the thread, pick some one else:D

Acatl
08-23-2008, 10:15 PM
Did you to read the first post? If not then let me point out one thing from it, Tommy is not a choice. transformering101 said he does not have Tommy as a choice because everyone will chose him, so if you want to obey the rules of the thread, pick some one else:D

I obviously didn't, as the thread already had a gazillion post and only clicked on the "Last page" thingie
Also, i think it's unfair to leave him(Or the others) out of this list. Bridge, Chip, Jack and Rocky, specially, doesn't seem as hated as the other three.
But since i can't chose the only ranger i can't really stand, then i chose no one.

BRIDGEtte
08-23-2008, 11:05 PM
Here's mine. I only have three, anyway.

Shane
Taylor
Kat

RyanRXP
08-23-2008, 11:09 PM
I obviously didn't, as the thread already had a gazillion post and only clicked on the "Last page" thingie
Also, i think it's unfair to leave him(Or the others) out of this list. Bridge, Chip, Jack and Rocky, specially, doesn't seem as hated as the other three.
But since i can't chose the only ranger i can't really stand, then i chose no one.

They are characters that people either really love or extremely hate(my list would be Brigde 17 times, hated him that much)
Plus last I checked most people hate Chip and Rocky. I don't haet Rocky, but most hate him like they hate Justin(only he is treated a little better) Just my observations.

OriginalGreenRanger
08-26-2008, 06:04 AM
the only rangers i cant stand are OO rangers

Jacen Solo
08-26-2008, 06:26 AM
I obviously didn't, as the thread already had a gazillion post and only clicked on the "Last page" thingie
Also, i think it's unfair to leave him(Or the others) out of this list. Bridge, Chip, Jack and Rocky, specially, doesn't seem as hated as the other three.
But since i can't chose the only ranger i can't really stand, then i chose no one.

You know, I also think it's unfair to leave Tommy out, but in the same respect, surely there were other Rangers you didn't care for? Choosing Tommy five times is kind of ... well, unfair.

Mine are:

(1) Jack
(2) Sky
I would have been perfectly okay with it if Cruger had chosen Syd as the Red Ranger, because as far as I'm concerned, neither of them deserved it ... but hey, at least Sky had some motivation for it (his father)

(3) Justin
What the hell was Zordon thinking, letting a 12-year old boy become a Ranger? Ever hear of liability? Not in the PR universe, I guess.

(4) Tyzonn
One day, he's a grieving almosthusbandwhosawhisentireteamdieinahugecaveinri ghtinfrontofhim (look it up in any dictionary :D), suddenly he's a comedian. Several episodes later, he's back to the former. I'm not as disgusted with him as I was Jack and Sky, it's just that the way his character was written (somewhat inconsistent) rubbed me the wrong way.

(5) Nick
I liked him at first, but it wasn't long before it seemed the entire season was about him.

Acatl
08-27-2008, 12:00 AM
You know, I also think it's unfair to leave Tommy out, but in the same respect, surely there were other Rangers you didn't care for? Choosing Tommy five times is kind of ... well, unfair.

Justin is also on the list.

Every other ranger that i don't particulary like is either "eh", neither interesting enough or annoying enough to not wanting to see again.

Jiemusu
08-27-2008, 12:05 AM
You know, I also think it's unfair to leave Tommy out, but in the same respect, surely there were other Rangers you didn't care for? Choosing Tommy five times is kind of ... well, unfair.

Lol it's his own fault for being power hungry and having 5 Ranger powers. With only one, he'd be down once.

Jyukai Rahziel Azu
08-27-2008, 12:34 AM
Jack will never be on my list anyway. He's selfless and did his duty as Red Ranger until the threat was over.

Acatl
08-27-2008, 04:54 AM
as a boy genius, one can only imagine how he's like as a young adult. probably could even give billy a run for his money.

blasphemy!

Rebelde
08-27-2008, 02:59 PM
Did you even read the first post? You put down 2 rangers that were listed as "rangers you can't choose".

well, too bad

if I have to leave them out..then my list will only have 3 persons... >_> and no..I didn't read the first post... I thought reading the title was enough

Jiemusu
08-27-2008, 03:07 PM
If certain names, be it if they are on the first post or not, keep cropping up from various members, then it's gotta count for something IMO.

King RR
08-27-2008, 04:14 PM
- Mack : i don't think he was a good leader
- Max : i didn't like his character much
- Ethan : i really didn't like him
- Nick
- Tyzonne

White Ranger Power
09-02-2009, 08:16 PM
Danny nick, Jen, Dax, and Max.

TokuFan
09-02-2009, 09:54 PM
Replace Jen with...Ronny and I'll agree.

DaiRed
09-02-2009, 11:48 PM
The OO team.

Savage2003
09-03-2009, 05:15 PM
I really can't put Justin? Anyway

Trent
Kat
Madison
Ronny
Ryan

White Ranger Power
09-03-2009, 06:04 PM
why trent and ryan i thought they were pretty cool especially trent he was so charasmatic.

TokuFan
09-03-2009, 06:49 PM
Yeah Trent's awesome. One of the most underrated rangers. Savage2003 go and watch Strange Relations.

Plus Ryan...Lightspeed Rescue hasn't really got interesting characters but it doesn't matter because the American fight scenes are just so good.

Savage2003
09-03-2009, 07:09 PM
Sorry guys, I can't think of Trent as anything other than a third-rate Tommy rip off, and I have seen Strange Relations thank you.

As for Ryan, I have nothing against the fight scenes, actual new fight footage was such a rarity back then. Everytime Ryan had to talk though the actor annoyed me.

Digifiend
09-03-2009, 10:44 PM
That's ironic, because Trent appeared in the one of the same seasons as Tommy!

Gauntlet_Ranger
09-04-2009, 05:46 AM
Gee I like just about all the Power Rangers but I will list the 5 that I did not really care for.

Carlos
Cole
Justin
Kimberly
Dustin

2580
09-04-2009, 08:50 AM
So anybody but Tommy, Justin, Rocky, Chip, Cole, Jack, and Bridge? Well, I didn't have a problem with Rocky or Chip and I haven't seen S.P.D. yet, so my only real problem will be to come up with a list of five without the help of Tommy and Justin. Well, here goes nothing:

The Five Rangers I Never Want to See Again
Carlos; annoying and dull as dishwater.
Kat; sickly-sweet and not much else.
Billy; in place of personality, he had niches: nerd of the group and tech guy of the group.
Zhane; he usually wasn't there anyway and when it came down to the most important battle, he managed to get the Mega Winger destroyed by Velocifighters of all things. The Astro Megaship (less powerful than the Mega Winger) was left unpiloted and it managed to survive until near the end of Lost Galaxy.
Karone; she just wasn't a memorable Ranger and was little more than a body occupying the Pink Galaxy Ranger suit.
Mack; too much of a daddy's boy and I don't like curly hair.

TokuFan
09-04-2009, 12:04 PM
That's ironic, because Trent appeared in the one of the same seasons as Tommy!

Yeah and I thought of something else! He's the only Caucasian extra ranger!

And Karone I thought it was the other way round! Kendrix was the body occupying the suit!

Digifiend
09-04-2009, 02:18 PM
No he's not. Jason - Zeo.

Savage2003
09-04-2009, 05:04 PM
That's ironic, because Trent appeared in the one of the same seasons as Tommy!

Which made me recognise it all the more. I think it was the whole "now he's evil! no he's good, evil!, good! there's two of them now!" And of course the Trent/Kira thing was quite the early Tommy/Kim rehash but without the kiss, because Disney seems to have banned them.

Also my other choice that has been questioned, Ryan was also an extra Caucasian ranger.

TokuFan
09-04-2009, 08:38 PM
Well yeah I agree about the evil and good thing but the Trent/Kira pairing was awesome,it's a shame that disappeared.

electrical wind
09-06-2009, 06:03 PM
Rocky - IMHO one of the worst red rangers (although he was better as Zeo Blue)
Justin as a kid (I would love to see him in a Ranger team now :) :) )
Nick, Chip, Vida - it's clear why I choose them... :)

Digifiend
09-07-2009, 03:15 PM
Re: Caucasian extra ranger, I simply mentioned Jason because he was the first - we thought Tommy was originally, but he turned out to be native American, once his backstory was revealed in Zeo.

Here's a list:
MMPR - Tommy - Native American
Zeo - Jason - White
Turbo - no sixth Ranger
Space - Zhane - White
Galaxy - Mike - White
Lightspeed - Ryan - White
Time Force - Eric - White

Seeing a pattern yet? In fact, Cam, Gem and Gemma are the only others who aren't Caucasian, all three being oriental.

TokuFan
09-07-2009, 06:45 PM
You've...lost me now. Are you sure Jason's Caucasian?! He sounded pretty American to me.

DaiRed
09-07-2009, 06:50 PM
Re: Caucasian extra ranger, I simply mentioned Jason because he was the first - we thought Tommy was originally, but he turned out to be native American, once his backstory was revealed in Zeo.

Here's a list:
MMPR - Tommy - Native American
Zeo - Jason - White
Turbo - no sixth Ranger
Space - Zhane - White
Galaxy - Mike - White
Lightspeed - Ryan - White
Time Force - Eric - White

Seeing a pattern yet? In fact, Cam, Gem and Gemma are the only others who aren't Caucasian, all three being oriental.

You forgot Trent.

Digifiend
09-08-2009, 01:01 PM
You've...lost me now. Are you sure Jason's Caucasian?! He sounded pretty American to me.Caucasian ia a race i.e. white. American is his nationality.

TokuFan
09-08-2009, 09:24 PM
Oh I thought it was like an island or something.