Justin

[RyanRXP]

I think that Justin gets beat up by fans. The only reason people don't like him is that he is a kid.

P.S. I think if any ranger were to come back it should be him, as he waould only be 22/compared to others who would be in their 30's.

[wadeinthewater]

I think that Justin gets beat up by fans. The only reason people don't like him is that he is a kid.

P.S. I think if any ranger were to come back it should be him, as he waould only be 22/compared to others who would be in their 30's.

Agreed. He had a lot of spunk to him and he would be the appropriate age at this point.

[ForeverBlack]

I feel the exact same way.Looking back,he wasn't as annoying as everyone made him out to be.Even now he isn't much of a pain,the whole suit growth thing was strange,and I didn't really like that.But overall he wasn't bad..I honestly didn't like Rocky,so Justin was pretty cool.

[RyanRXP]

Agreed. He had a lot of spunk to him and he would be the appropriate age at this point.

Plus he could do all the computer stuff along with his experience as a Ranger.
Also everyone loves pointing out rangers that come back, well Justins one of them.

[ForeverBlack]

He lost the Turbo Ranger power right?..

[wadeinthewater]

He was definitely the comic relief that was needed at some points. I liked that.

[Ao Ultimate]

If he was a teenager or an adult no one would even rag on him the way they do but thats out PR fanbase

[ForeverBlack]

He was definitely the comic relief that was needed at some points. I liked that.

Comic Relief?..I found him as a mere change in the usual "Teenager's with Attitude'' standing.Bulk and Skull didn't need a third member.

Then again..when I think about it,he was only add on..I gotta check out Turbo again.

[RyanRXP]

He lost the Turbo Ranger power right?..

Storm Blaster gave them back in Space.

[ForeverBlack]

Storm Blaster gave them back in Space.

I can't recall Space..but didn't TJ,Carlos,and the girls leave him on earth to go find new power?

[wadeinthewater]

Comic Relief?..I found him as a mere change in the usual "Teenager's with Attitude'' standing.Bulk and Skull didn't need a third member.

Then again..when I think about it,he was only add on..I gotta check out Turbo again.

He was only comical in the fact that he was a kid compared to the rest of them and was very "kid oriented" in his actions.

[ForeverBlack]

Ah,I gotcha..did you find his Comical actions good,or more of an annoyance as everyone else?

It wasn't a bad idea for the writers to put him in,don't get me wrong,but I preferred the 'Teenage' attitude from MMPR,when they didn't kid around unless under a spell of some sort.

[RyanRXP]

I can't recall Space..but didn't TJ,Carlos,and the girls leave him on earth to go find new power?

It was in the ep "TRUE BLUE TO THE RESCUE"

[ForeverBlack]

It was in the ep "TRUE BLUE TO THE RESCUE"

Alright,I guess I'll check that out for PR historical reasons.I only remembered that he was left behind because Tommy went over what happened with the Dino Thunder rangers..

[wadeinthewater]

Ah,I gotcha..did you find his Comical actions good,or more of an annoyance as everyone else?

It wasn't a bad idea for the writers to put him in,don't get me wrong,but I preferred the 'Teenage' attitude from MMPR,when they didn't kid around unless under a spell of some sort.

I thought he was a great addition. I found his "kidness" to be just what turbo needed.

[ForeverBlack]

I thought he was a great addition. I found his "kidness" to be just what turbo needed.

Well the ratings didn't agree I guess..why was Justin such a let-down for fans?..I didn't mind the kid actually,better than Rocky,and probably better than a different Blue Ranger.

...But AGAIN with the whole Size thing..the morphing he had was..lame..tbh

[wadeinthewater]

Well the ratings didn't agree I guess..why was Justin such a let-down for fans?..I didn't mind the kid actually,better than Rocky,and probably better than a different Blue Ranger.

...But AGAIN with the whole Size thing..the morphing he had was..lame..tbh

To the show's defense... what elese were they gonna do LOL I agree that is was a bit off...but I'm sure options were limited.

[ForeverBlack]

Yeah..*sigh* I miss the old 5-man teams..not these 3-rangers crap..

but y'know,if Justin did return,what's to stop people from shutting the T.V off as soon as he's mentioned? XD

[wadeinthewater]

Yeah..*sigh* I miss the old 5-man teams..not these 3-rangers crap..

but y'know,if Justin did return,what's to stop people from shutting the T.V off as soon as he's mentioned? XD

1. I completely agree with you about not having 5 rangers anymore...that bothers me all the time

2. Nothing is stopping them except for the fact that it's a blast from the past...and people respond to that regardless of if it was a bad, or good experience. To me, it would represent what a time when power rangers was much more worth it to watch.

[ForeverBlack]

1.Glad you think so..didn't watch Ninja Storm because of that.Just wasn't the same anymore.

2. I think it all went downhill at about..maybe Wild Force?Any ranger taken before this era would be perfect to take in Jungle Fury(Has not seen a single episode of it)Maybe Justin could be placed together with..idk maybe Adam,when Adam appears in an episode.I don't get the whole issue on how Justin was actually written off the show.Money issues?

[wadeinthewater]

1.Glad you think so..didn't watch Ninja Storm because of that.Just wasn't the same anymore.

2. I think it all went downhill at about..maybe Wild Force?Any ranger taken before this era would be perfect to take in Jungle Fury(Has not seen a single episode of it)Maybe Justin could be placed together with..idk maybe Adam,when Adam appears in an episode.I don't get the whole issue on how Justin was actually written off the show.Money issues?

Dude...I couldn't agree with you more...like we're on the exact same page about ninja storm (which I boycotted) and wildforce! It's all disney's fault lol

[ForeverBlack]

Haha,yeah,finally someone agrees with me.I think they basically took NS from Ninjor in MMPR.and Jungle Fury is basically in relation to the MMPR Dinozords...why can't they be original? XD..

[wadeinthewater]

Haha,yeah,finally someone agrees with me.I think they basically took NS from Ninjor in MMPR.and Jungle Fury is basically in relation to the MMPR Dinozords...why can't they be original? XD..

They can't be original because they exhausted all of the good ideas it would seem lol...id love to see something new and fresh but it doesn't seem likely to happen. :(

[ForeverBlack]

Well they took Space,Dinosaurs,Cars,Rescue(boring series) and Lost Galaxy(which was amazing)

They either need to go with Animals or Technology.a.k.a MMPR and LR.

[RyanRXP]

Alright,I guess I'll check that out for PR historical reasons.I only remembered that he was left behind because Tommy went over what happened with the Dino Thunder rangers..

Yea, true blue was the episode that added closure to Justin.

[NekoLLX]

Haha,yeah,finally someone agrees with me.I think they basically took NS from Ninjor in MMPR.and Jungle Fury is basically in relation to the MMPR Dinozords...why can't they be original? XD..

Que?

How is a Red Tiger, a Black Lion, A Blue Jaguar, a Yellow Cheetah, a Violet Wolf and a White Rhino related to a Red T-Rex, Blue Triceratops, Black Mastadon? Yellow Sabertooth and a Pink PTeradactyl related?

[ForeverBlack]

Oops..I meant Dino Thunder.My mistake..and even if the zords aren't exactly the same as the MMPR zords,they could have at least though of a different name..Dinosaurs again?..Ninja's again?..

[NekoLLX]

Oops..I meant Dino Thunder.My mistake..and even if the zords aren't exactly the same as the MMPR zords,they could have at least though of a different name..Dinosaurs again?..Ninja's again?..

Blame Super Sentai

(or republicans, republicans always works)

I mean seriously if their source footage is Rangers with KAtanna or rangers Piloting Dinos WHAT are they going to do?

Really, id love to hear a non Dino Themed Power Ranger that uses Abarangers footage.

I hereby task you to create such a thing.

Go and make a non Dino series that uses Abaranger Footage! I'd love to hear the concept!

[ForeverBlack]

Even though footage is taken from Sentai,I've never seen it.
Saw the first episode of Wild Force in Japanese,but little else.

[NekoLLX]

Even though footage is taken from Sentai,I've never seen it.
Saw the first episode of Wild Force in Japanese,but little else.

So if its so easy toss out a concept that uses Abarangers ranger and zord footage that doesn't focus on Dinosaurs

[Titanium Ranger]

...But AGAIN with the whole Size thing..the morphing he had was..lame..tbh

Lame compared to what we have now? Lol size differences have been used so many times nowadays it's quite the "in thing" (reference to Sky, Jack and of course, Theo. Even though they don't specifically show them growing taller (or smaller) in the morphing, you know it's happening.

Sorry for going off topic though. Justin, I wasn't a fan of him in the movie but somehow he's fine in the series. I don't mind him there at all. Probably because I've gotten used to the fact that we have a kid ranger who is going to grow in size whenever he morphs. He does his job fine, that's what matters. For all we know, he could be a better candidate than most other adults. Zordon was around when Justin was picked, so I think he made the choice for a reason? (other than Rocky breaking his back lol)

[ForeverBlack]

I never said it would be easy,did I?..Ninja Storm is fine in terms of name,but Dino Thunder could have had something else really.

So keep biting my head off about this,if it really makes you feel better.

[NekoLLX]

I never said it would be easy,did I?..Ninja Storm is fine in terms of name,but Dino Thunder could have had something else really.

So keep biting my head off about this,if it really makes you feel better.

Your the one saying Dino Thunder didn't have to be about Dinosaurs Well if not Dinos then what? You have to use Abaranger footage so what would it be about?

[ForeverBlack]

I was talking about the name,more than the actual theme of it.And with the name Dino Thunder then yeah,it would pretty much need dinosaurs.

Are you feeling better about this yet?

well,better yet,to stop the whole discussion,I'll submit."You were right"..ok?..I'd rather not argue about what the next PR themes will be based on..I'd like to 'discuss'

Maybe we can go back on topic now...

[Scaletex]

That, or, come up with a Ranger theme that is entirely new footage shot with entirely original stunt men and uses no stock footage from Japan whatsoever!

If the Japanese can make rubber look like metal to create Zords, then why would a multi-million-billion dollar company like Disney find it so difficult to come up with their own ideas?

They could end up with suits that are their own theme, instead of having to be themed around anything in particular. They could also be named after gem colors. Power Rangers: Gem Glory. Voila!

All original monster suits, all original Ranger suits, all-original Zords, and fill it with real plot and character development instead of slo-mo wire-fu. Have characters bleed when reasonable, just no excessive blood. (Because that's venturing into Buffy territory.)

Or better yet...have the CW produce it! The only rules from Disney are that there can be:

1. Only violence that is necessary and sensible.
2. Monsters can be more believable as long as they aren't completely overkill for kids.
3. No swearing.
4. No sex (on-camera).
5. No drug use (on-camera).
6. Go easy on the homosexuality, adultery, incest, and bigamy references.

Basically, let the guys who made Buffy and Smallville have a shot at making their own Power Rangers team.

It'd be a lot more realistic, a lot darker, would appeal to a much wider audience, and would not be restricted by the fact that the Japanese are stuck in a rut thanks to Ban Dai. You could even include plots with more down-to-Earth villains, so it's not just aliens and demons all the time.

Would that not be a good idea?

- Rangers worry about money.
- Rangers worry about grades.
- Monsters are less restricted in how they can express their evilness.
- Rangers have to cope with their parents' behaviors.
- Ranger mentors can have issues with the police.
- Suits can be something more than just spandex and a helmet.
- The mayor can hate the Rangers because of property damages to housing incurred during Zord battles.
- Rangers can deal with not only evil monsters, but also with street thugs and hookers and stalkers who cause trouble.
- Rangers can have very complicated relationships (Closest Saban came was Time Force)
- Weapons can look more realistic.
- American actors, not New Zealanders, so no accent issues.
- Better teleporting effects.
- If it can work for a young Superman, it might work for the Rangers.

Who's with me on that?

[ForeverBlack]

I'm with you on the last list..but I'd prefer no sex or drug use at all..sounds like more maturity than power rangers really needs..

I'm not saying your idea's are bad..but think of how young the audience is.

[NekoLLX]

well actually i took PR and made my own story that a bit more real inspired by it...the book will be out before years end

[Jacob Hart]

well actually i took PR and made my own story that a bit more real inspired by it...the book will be out before years end

sounds interesting? are you going to post any of it here on the boards?

[WraithGadra]

well actually i took PR and made my own story that a bit more real inspired by it...the book will be out before years end

Now you have to share it with the rest of us. :)

On-topic, I don't mind Justin at all. When he joined, Big Bad Beetle Borgs was in its heyday and Saban wanted to capitalize on its popularity. He wasn't a bad ranger, he just wasn't what people expected.

[Rebelde]

I think that Justin gets beat up by fans. The only reason people don't like him is that he is a kid.

P.S. I think if any ranger were to come back it should be him, as he waould only be 22/compared to others who would be in their 30's.

What? XD I don't hate him because he's a kid...I hate him because he is ANNOYING..he's all like "Wow, awesome, cool, oh let's do it again!" it's like.."Shut up!" XD

[Titanium Ranger]

That, or, come up with a Ranger theme that is entirely new footage shot with entirely original stunt men and uses no stock footage from Japan whatsoever!

If the Japanese can make rubber look like metal to create Zords, then why would a multi-million-billion dollar company like Disney find it so difficult to come up with their own ideas?

They could end up with suits that are their own theme, instead of having to be themed around anything in particular. They could also be named after gem colors. Power Rangers: Gem Glory. Voila!

All original monster suits, all original Ranger suits, all-original Zords, and fill it with real plot and character development instead of slo-mo wire-fu. Have characters bleed when reasonable, just no excessive blood. (Because that's venturing into Buffy territory.)

Or better yet...have the CW produce it! The only rules from Disney are that there can be:

1. Only violence that is necessary and sensible.
2. Monsters can be more believable as long as they aren't completely overkill for kids.
3. No swearing.
4. No sex (on-camera).
5. No drug use (on-camera).
6. Go easy on the homosexuality, adultery, incest, and bigamy references.

Basically, let the guys who made Buffy and Smallville have a shot at making their own Power Rangers team.

It'd be a lot more realistic, a lot darker, would appeal to a much wider audience, and would not be restricted by the fact that the Japanese are stuck in a rut thanks to Ban Dai. You could even include plots with more down-to-Earth villains, so it's not just aliens and demons all the time.

Would that not be a good idea?

- Rangers worry about money.
- Rangers worry about grades.
- Monsters are less restricted in how they can express their evilness.
- Rangers have to cope with their parents' behaviors.
- Ranger mentors can have issues with the police.
- Suits can be something more than just spandex and a helmet.
- The mayor can hate the Rangers because of property damages to housing incurred during Zord battles.
- Rangers can deal with not only evil monsters, but also with street thugs and hookers and stalkers who cause trouble.
- Rangers can have very complicated relationships (Closest Saban came was Time Force)
- Weapons can look more realistic.
- American actors, not New Zealanders, so no accent issues.
- Better teleporting effects.
- If it can work for a young Superman, it might work for the Rangers.

Who's with me on that?

I agree with some points, not with some others. But a discussion like that deserves it's own thread. There's a lot to talk about on what an awesome job the CW could do :)

[Jiemusu]

I hate Justin for alot of reasons, and it's not because he's a kid. Billy was technically the same age.

I will say this. If Justin did return to PR, people would scream his name and devote websites to his 'now excellent' role. Literally JUST BECAUSE he returned. It's the same reason people rave about Adam and Tommy. The more you return in PR, no matter how shit you are, the more you're liked.

[wadeinthewater]

I hate Justin for alot of reasons, and it's not because he's a kid. Billy was technically the same age.

I will say this. If Justin did return to PR, people would scream his name and devote websites to his 'now excellent' role. Literally JUST BECAUSE he returned. It's the same reason people rave about Adam and Tommy. The more you return in PR, no matter how shit you are, the more you're liked.

there is some truth to that...i doubt however that today's current rangers would ever be revered just as much if they returned in a new season of PR years from now...that means something at least

[Hear All]

Back in the day (when I was a little kid) I liked Justin, but now that I look back and realize his faults and the attention hogging he did, I can say I dislike him

[wadeinthewater]

Back in the day (when I was a little kid) I liked Justin, but now that I look back and realize his faults and the attention hogging he did, I can say I dislike him

But that was kinda the point to his character. It separated him away from the rest of them. That kind of character was never experimented with before.

[NekoLLX]

Now you have to share it with the rest of us. :)

On-topic, I don't mind Justin at all. When he joined, Big Bad Beetle Borgs was in its heyday and Saban wanted to capitalize on its popularity. He wasn't a bad ranger, he just wasn't what people expected.

the entire story can be found here on my DA

http://nekollx.deviantart.com/gallery/#Powered-Marines

its all written what the book will do is pair the story with a apedix of concept art and illustrations in the book of key events.

the actual book itself also supports 6 different charities with 6 variant covers. 1/3 of the cover price coves printing, 1/3 gos to a different charity based on the cover and the last 1/3 is my royalty.

but i warn you since iits a PR grown up thing there is MATURE content.

On Justin i actually liked him, was his character perfect? No. But he was likable.

[NekoLLX]

I agree with some points, not with some others. But a discussion like that deserves it's own thread. There's a lot to talk about on what an awesome job the CW could do :)

and a discussion was made (didn't want to do a merged reply cause it would be pretty lengthy)

http://www.rangertalk.com/showthread.php?t=91

[RyanRXP]

Back in the day (when I was a little kid) I liked Justin, but now that I look back and realize his faults and the attention hogging he did, I can say I dislike him

Justin was made so that they could connect with newer kids. The kid aspect was popular in other shows so they put him in Power Rangers. If you liked him when you were a kid, it worked. You forget the show was not made so that if you watch it again in 10 years you would still like it.

[golden_phantom_ranger]

i loved justin. he was a great ranger. i dont think he was an attention grabber at all. he did bring in a lot of kids, because kids could relate to him. i really would like to see him come back. i think he could come back and be the leader for pr 2009/. i started a fan fic with hime coming back i just havent got around to finishing it yet. i think he would be a great leader. i mean he could easily tap into the morphing grid. he could still be in contact with people like tommy.

[Hear All]

Justin was made so that they could connect with newer kids. The kid aspect was popular in other shows so they put him in Power Rangers. If you liked him when you were a kid, it worked. You forget the show was not made so that if you watch it again in 10 years you would still like it.

Thats true, but a truly great character is supposed to be popular with all ages, Justin hogged the spotlight from every character in Turbo

[wadeinthewater]

Thats true, but a truly great character is supposed to be popular with all ages, Justin hogged the spotlight from every character in Turbo

To be honest I really don't remember there being a whole lot of character depth in Turbo to begin with. Justin's character was a spark in some ways.