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Ryan H. Nelson
11/16/02, 09:34 AM
Wow...... For the most part, this finale f***ing RULED!!! However,
some things sucked a little. Here's what I disliked.
1. Too bad we couldn't see a little Isis action. Or the Pegasus, for
that matter.
2. They should have made some reference to how Master Org's form is a
combo of Retinax, Nayzor, Mandilock, Jindrax, and Toxica. That's how
it was in GaoRanger, and it was obvious enough just looking at him.
Oh, by the way, am I the only one who thought the whole deal with
parts of your head as Org Generals was ri-goddamn-diculous? I guess
they made it work sort of, but generally I'm not gonna be scared by a
big green nose with ears comin' out of it.
3. Speaking of them, what the hell were Jindrax and Toxica doing
during this whole ordeal? If they really wanted peace, they
should've been getting off their asses and helping the Rangers fight
Master Org. It just would've been appropriate, and just plain right.
4. The ending was mostly good, showing their futures and all, but one
thing was really missing: Danny and Kendall. Something HAD to have
happened between them, and I was really looking forward to seeing
what the future had for them together. Hopefully they'll be smart
and pull together something for the WildForce/Ninja Storm teamup next
year.
5. Hey, anybody notice that in this series more than any other,
nobody seems to know how to die? The 3 generals, Toxica, Animus, the
WildZords, Zen Aku, Master Org... Jesus Christ, the only ones to stay
dead were Cole's parents!
Well, now that I've bitched enough, time to share the good parts.
1. The extra WildZords bein' shown (Rat, Stingray, Zebra, Peacock),
and the Ultra Roar from all the Zords surrounding him.
2. The Rangers' spirit, not willing to give up. (btw, anybody catch
Merrick's last name when he said it? I couldn't understand it.)
3. The battle against Master Org. Nothin' particular, just the
battle in general.
4. The Animarium falling right into its old place in Turtle Lake.
Though from the commercials, I was expecting a harsh, crash landing.
5. On an unrelated note, Am I the only one who thinks that "Wild West
Rangers" was FAR from an appropriate episode to play for the
MegaBattle Marathon? It should've been the episode with the Orb Of
Doom, technically. Though, if it were going to be any random
episode/battle, it would've been awesome to have "Master Vile and the
Metallic Armor". That was, in my opinion, the best Mighty Morphin'
battle ever, and the atmosphere of defeat and revival would've fit
perfectly with the mood of the rest of the series finales!
6. It's good to know Max and Danny are stayin' true to each other.
7. Seeing Taylor flying alongside the EagleZord was pretty slick. I
have a feeling she'll be the key to reuniting the team for the
WildForce/Ninja Storm team-up.
8. Cole... my hero...... heh heh, ok, it was pretty cool seein' him
in his true jungle roots, swingin' from the vines to help that kid.
I'll admit, I actually shed a tear.
Well, I know there was more, but it's all a jumble now. Overall, it
was awesome, and kinda moved me at times. Seriously, my eyes got
moist at times. It was good, and I'll miss the WildForce team.
Ry-Guy

MattEmily
12/04/17, 01:35 AM
Wow... For the most part, this finale ****ing RULED!!! However, some things sucked a little. Here's what I disliked.
1. Too bad we couldn't see a little Isis action. Or the Pegasus, for
that matter.
2. They should have made some reference to how Master Org's form is a
combo of Retinax, Nayzor, Mandilock, Jindrax, and Toxica. That's how
it was in GaoRanger, and it was obvious enough just looking at him.
Oh, by the way, am I the only one who thought the whole deal with
parts of your head as Org Generals was ri-****-diculous? I guess
they made it work sort of, but generally I'm not gonna be scared by a
big green nose with ears comin' out of it.

I wouldn't say it ruled or anything but it was definitely impressive but I do agree with you about the Isis Megazord and while it would've been nice to see the Pegasus Megazord sadly the Red Lion growing was a special case.

I do agree about your points about Master Org's final form having parts of the Generals and the main Dukes and that they should've mentioned it but maybe they thought there wasn't a good way to since the Dukes had already left.

The Org Generals having those parts might be weird but I thought it gave them an extra line of character.


3. Speaking of them, what the **** were Jindrax and Toxica doing
during this whole ordeal? If they really wanted peace, they
should've been getting off their asses and helping the Rangers fight
Master Org. It just would've been appropriate, and just plain right.
4. The ending was mostly good, showing their futures and all, but one
thing was really missing: Danny and Kendall. Something HAD to have
happened between them, and I was really looking forward to seeing
what the future had for them together. Hopefully they'll be smart
and pull together something for the WildForce/Ninja Storm teamup next
year.

who knows what they were doing but even if they had wanted peace they probably weren't anywhere nearby I mean we really have no clue where they were going.

yes I agree with you about Danny and Kendall but perhaps they wanted to give them "a not obvious ending" like every Disney or fairy tale writer would. People don't always get a happy ending.

5. Hey, anybody notice that in this series more than any other,
nobody seems to know how to die? The 3 generals, Toxica, Animus, the
WildZords, Zen Aku, Master Org... Jesus Christ, the only ones to stay
dead were Cole's parents!
Well, now that I've bitched enough, time to share the good parts.
1. The extra WildZords bein' shown (Rat, Stingray, Zebra, Peacock),
and the Ultra Roar from all the Zords surrounding him.
2. The Rangers' spirit, not willing to give up. (btw, anybody catch
Merrick's last name when he said it? I couldn't understand it.)

that's true but in both Animus and the Master Org's case it was a special case. Master Org was destroyed but his remains (his seeds) were still around, Viktor Adler becomes so jealous and bitter and enraged that he eats some of these seeds so he starts becoming like the original Master Org he shares apparently some of the exact memories of him but he doesn't truly become THE Master Org until Cole beats the superhuman powers out of him then Mandilok kills him at which him the original Master Org takes over Viktor's body much like a demon would.

3. The battle against Master Org. Nothin' particular, just the
battle in general.
4. The Animarium falling right into its old place in Turtle Lake.
Though from the commercials, I was expecting a harsh, crash landing.


yea those scenes were good as was that battle especially the ground battle against him and the beginning scenes of the first Giant battle.

5. On an unrelated note, Am I the only one who thinks that "Wild West Rangers" was FAR from an appropriate episode to play for the
MegaBattle Marathon? It should've been the episode with the Orb Of
Doom, technically. Though, if it were going to be any random
episode/battle, it would've been awesome to have "Master Vile and the
Metallic Armor". That was, in my opinion, the best Mighty Morphin'
battle ever, and the atmosphere of defeat and revival would've fit
perfectly with the mood of the rest of the series finales!

It was a Mega Battle marathon not a finale marathon so any ep with big stakes in it would've been a good choice and if it was going to be a finale marathon the MMPR finale would've went to "Hogday Afternoon"

6. It's good to know Max and Danny are stayin' true to each other.
7. Seeing Taylor flying alongside the EagleZord was pretty slick. I
have a feeling she'll be the key to reuniting the team for the
WildForce/Ninja Storm team-up.
8. Cole... my hero...... heh heh, ok, it was pretty cool seein' him
in his true jungle roots, swingin' from the vines to help that kid.
I'll admit, I actually shed a tear.
Well, I know there was more, but it's all a jumble now. Overall, it
was awesome, and kinda moved me at times. Seriously, my eyes got
moist at times. It was good, and I'll miss the WildForce team.

yea that was cool with Taylor and her Eaglezord flying nearby.

Massive Ego
12/04/17, 04:50 PM
In a lot of ways it truly was the end of Power Rangers. Since it was the end of the last real good season. Only the first half of RPM ever got back to the level of the first Saban Era.

White Tiger Fan
12/04/17, 04:56 PM
I loved the finale, it was a masterpiece that only Amit could create. I loved that he had the guts to actually kill off Master Org and not have him healed by a care bear stare. He had plenty of chances to back out and has no sympathy for me since he murdered Cole's parents in cold blood and would have done the same to Cole if he could.

KimandTommy
12/04/17, 04:57 PM
i don't think you guys will argue with me about Master Org and/or Adler being evil.

No Green Spandex
12/04/17, 04:59 PM
No,but Tommy as the next Master Org sounds good to me.

Inner Senshi
12/04/17, 05:02 PM
Isn't it a little much to bump a thread from 2002?

MattEmily
12/04/17, 05:05 PM
In a lot of ways it truly was the end of Power Rangers. Since it was the end of the last real good season. Only the first half of RPM ever got back to the level of the first Saban Era.

I beg to differ granted Ninja Storm wasn't the best but I thought things got better once the Thunders got active. I didn't like most of the villains except for the male Generals with the exception of probably Motodrone and maybe Shimazu.

Dino Thunder was one of the better seasons on par with one of Saban's seasons granted I hated the Abaranger ep but other than that most other things were fine. I did hate the "Inspector Gadget" Battlizer and I hated how we had an extra Ranger as a power-up.

SPD I wasn't a big fan of. I didn't like the villains except for Broodwing, the monsters and the mooks. Jack's Battlizer was fine but the Sonic Mode was a more proper fit due to all of the extra armor that came from R.I.C. I hated the idea of the Ball of Light and how they introduced us to his friend Nova.

Mystic Force was a pretty good season my only complaints was no focus on Maddie and too much focus on Nick but other than that I really don't have a problem with it except I wasn't a huge fan of Morticon or Imperious.

Overdrive and Jungle Fury not the greatest.

RPM one of the best.

Samurai and Megaforce were both bad.

Dino Charge wasn't bad in fact it would've been one of the best if the finale wasn't horrible and IF we had gotten more focus on the Aqua Ranger.

I loved the finale, it was a masterpiece that only Amit could create. I loved that he had the guts to actually kill off Master Org and not have him healed by a care bear stare. He had plenty of chances to back out and has no sympathy for me since he murdered Cole's parents in cold blood and would have done the same to Cole if he could.

of course an Amit lover would think that since in your mind he can do no wrong but some of us like me aren't blinded by how we feel but you do have a point about the Master Org being killed off but that wouldn't have been his decision to begin with anyway since if Saban and FOX was still running the show then we all know they'd be saying to purify him. I do agree with you about the Master Org being a cold blooded murderer he doesn't have any sympathy from me either although I think we've all been there when someone rejects our advances or feelings and we feel as if that person was the perfect match for us.

i don't think you guys will argue with me about Master Org and/or Adler being evil.

what do you mean? of course they were evil granted Adler wasn't always evil but I do think he was mentally unstable due to how easy it was for him for him to get so enraged and angry through jealousy due to Elizabeth winning Richard's heart and because the Evans kept sharing the credit in what they were doing with Animaria and not sharing that credit with Adler even though all 3 were part of the same expedition team.

No,but Tommy as the next Master Org sounds good to me.

not me that wouldn't make any sense and Tommy being evil would be so 1994.

Isn't it a little much to bump a thread from 2002?

who cares? We have no rules on bumping ancient threads if someone sees a thread from hey let's say 1982 or even before Jesus was born then go ahead and bump it up if you have something to say to it.

Byron Stinger
12/04/17, 05:13 PM
Isn't it a little much to bump a thread from 2002?


Not if the topic is worth revisiting and the reply adds to that

PRangerX
12/04/17, 05:18 PM
This thread was in the Ezboard forum, so its either from the threads imported from the Ezboard or old Yahoo Group. I am thinking the yahoo group. But its a good topic to expand on.

I don't mind bumping old threads if the reply adds to the thread or its a topic worth revisiting. It also allows are newer members to comment on threads from before there time here.

MattEmily
12/04/17, 05:19 PM
Not if the topic is worth revisiting and the reply adds to that

not to mention we have no bumping rules here we're not like Rangerboard or RangerCrew who outlaw such stuff.

MattEmily
12/04/17, 05:21 PM
This thread was in the Ezboard forum, so its either from the threads imported from the Ezboard or old Yahoo Group. I am thinking the yahoo group. But its a good topic to expand on.

I don't mind bumping old threads if the reply adds to the thread or its a topic worth revisiting. It also allows are newer members to comment on threads from before there time here.

I'm presuming from the yahoo since I don't recall seeing that user's name on the ezboard/yuku board.

ah yes that's a good point of mentioning with the bumping of old threads.

Disney Ranger
12/04/17, 05:40 PM
I beg to differ granted Ninja Storm wasn't the best but I thought things got better once the Thunders got active. I didn't like most of the villains except for the male Generals with the exception of probably Motodrone and maybe Shimazu.

Dino Thunder was one of the better seasons on par with one of Saban's seasons granted I hated the Abaranger ep but other than that most other things were fine. I did hate the "Inspector Gadget" Battlizer and I hated how we had an extra Ranger as a power-up.

SPD I wasn't a big fan of. I didn't like the villains except for Broodwing, the monsters and the mooks. Jack's Battlizer was fine but the Sonic Mode was a more proper fit due to all of the extra armor that came from R.I.C. I hated the idea of the Ball of Light and how they introduced us to his friend Nova.

Mystic Force was a pretty good season my only complaints was no focus on Maddie and too much focus on Nick but other than that I really don't have a problem with it except I wasn't a huge fan of Morticon or Imperious.

Overdrive and Jungle Fury not the greatest.

RPM one of the best.

Samurai and Megaforce were both bad.

Dino Charge wasn't bad in fact it would've been one of the best if the finale wasn't horrible and IF we had gotten more focus on the Aqua Ranger.



of course an Amit lover would think that since in your mind he can do no wrong but some of us like me aren't blinded by how we feel but you do have a point about the Master Org being killed off but that wouldn't have been his decision to begin with anyway since if Saban and FOX was still running the show then we all know they'd be saying to purify him. I do agree with you about the Master Org being a cold blooded murderer he doesn't have any sympathy from me either although I think we've all been there when someone rejects our advances or feelings and we feel as if that person was the perfect match for us.



what do you mean? of course they were evil granted Adler wasn't always evil but I do think he was mentally unstable due to how easy it was for him for him to get so enraged and angry through jealousy due to Elizabeth winning Richard's heart and because the Evans kept sharing the credit in what they were doing with Animaria and not sharing that credit with Adler even though all 3 were part of the same expedition team.



not me that wouldn't make any sense and Tommy being evil would be so 1994.



who cares? We have no rules on bumping ancient threads if someone sees a thread from hey let's say 1982 or even before Jesus was born then go ahead and bump it up if you have something to say to it.

I actually think the Disney era was so much better. Not counting Wild Force, since it felt like a later Saban Era Season!Its amazing how Disney understood the show more than Saban.

No Green Spandex
12/04/17, 05:47 PM
I was just joking about Tommy being the next Masters Org. I know they would never do that or make him evil. I would rather not have Tommy come back to the show for any role a anyway.

MattEmily
12/04/17, 05:53 PM
I actually think the Disney era was so much better. Not counting Wild Force, since it felt like a later Saban Era Season!Its amazing how Disney understood the show more than Saban.

I actually don't know which 1 would be better Saban Entertainment-era or Disney-era but let's see shall we?

MMPR = Season 1 was mostly boring until we got the evil Green Ranger but once that wrapped up it went back to being boring until the next big ep.
Season 2 got a little more interesting with Zedd's arrival, Green losing powers, White becoming the new power, Scorpina's return, the Stone Canyon Ninjas' arrival, the ninjas replacing half of the Rangers, the evil Wedding, Green's return

Season 3 was much better since most of the season was all story so so far I'll give 2 seasons to Saban Entertainment.

Zeo wasn't too bad but there still wasn't much of a story. Turbo was horrible.

Space got better. Galaxy had a better story so I'll give 4 to Saban Entertainment.

Lightspeed wasn't too bad but still wasn't a whole lot of story. Time Force was good and technically the Saban Entertainment crew was in charge of Wild Force so while it (Wild Force) was a Disney season it was still technically produced by Saban's old crew and both Forces were good so I'll give Saban Entertainment a 6.

Now Disney.

Dino Thunder, Mystic Force and RPM would be the automatic good ones so they would get a 3.

MattEmily
12/04/17, 05:56 PM
I was just joking about Tommy being the next Masters Org. I know they would never do that or make him evil. I would rather not have Tommy come back to the show for any role a anyway.

whether you want him back or not it's not something you can even control. People can cry all they want to about how much they hate either the character or the actor (whichever one it is that they hate some hate both) but they have no power to tell a Producer what to do.

Sentai Is Forever
12/04/17, 07:19 PM
I like how "End of ***** ******" actually used a lot of Super Sentai footage despite some of the American Storylines. Which I guess they needed to finish out. Master Org was just a distraction though and unneeded. It waa a lot better than the oroginal footage finalies we got with Turbo-Galaxy.

No Green Spandex
12/04/17, 07:24 PM
whether you want him back or not it's not something you can even control. People can cry all they want to about how much they hate either the character or the actor (whichever one it is that they hate some hate both) but they have no power to tell a Producer what to do.

Right but I was just using that as an example why I didn't seriously want Tommy to be Master Org 2 or even thought it could happen. I don't even think there will be a Master Org 2 in any season.

Inner Senshi
12/04/17, 07:27 PM
Why can't people ever stay on topic in threads around here ?

MattEmily
12/05/17, 12:51 PM
I like how "End of ***** ******" actually used a lot of Super Sentai footage despite some of the American Storylines. Which I guess they needed to finish out. Master Org was just a distraction though and unneeded. It waa a lot better than the oroginal footage finalies we got with Turbo-Galaxy.

I didn't like how much Sentai footage the finale ended up using but I was fine with them creating Master Org as a new original character now if he was a bad character like we had in SPD then I would've wanted them to just stick to the Gaoranger villains.
I disagree that he was a distraction since he was one of the better villains and I disagree that it was a lot better than the Turbo-Galaxy finales however I do agree that it's better than the Turbo finale.

Why can't people ever stay on topic in threads around here ?

because topic drift is a serious disease of which there's no cure for.

Itzy Bitzy Carter
12/05/17, 06:08 PM
Its funny how close it really came to being the end of Power Rangers for real.

Ranger Black
12/05/17, 07:54 PM
I think it was a great idea to create a real main villain in Wild Force.Their storyline for him was great as well.

Massive Ego
12/05/17, 08:26 PM
I don't see how anyone can say Master Org hurt Wild Force. The only complaint I can see was the actor being very dry. But it for the character since Adler was originally a nerd with no idea how to socialize with people . And when he became Master Org he showed no emotion.

MattEmily
12/05/17, 08:44 PM
I think it was a great idea to create a real main villain in Wild Force.Their storyline for him was great as well.

I don't see how anyone can say Master Org hurt Wild Force. The only complaint I can see was the actor being very dry. But it for the character since Adler was originally a nerd with no idea how to socialize with people . And when he became Master Org he showed no emotion.

The character was awesome but shockingly I do agree with Massive Ego that his actor was bad. I'm shocked that we're actually agreeing on something however I do agree that his bad acting kind of worked for the character.

Samurai Forever
12/06/17, 08:22 AM
Wild Force just came off has way too bland and boring. Master Org was loke a bad 30s horror film charcter, and not in a good way. I didn't like this finale at all. And what was it with Princess firing the Rangers after they just saved the world.

MattEmily
12/06/17, 08:54 AM
don't forget that Master Org's suit was basically a recycled version of an old Dairanger suit.

Shayla had to go back to sleep since she was only there to keep the city safe from Orgs if there were no Orgs then there's no point to her remaining awake.

Lightspeed Zeo
12/06/17, 11:31 AM
She had a very tragic backstory as she always had to say goodbye to the ones she loved.

Countdown to Destruction
12/06/17, 07:19 PM
C2D set the tone for PR finalies. Galaxy and Lightspeed carried this on with major finales of their own.Time Force's was more character bases. But Wild Force's finale really felt lame in comparison.

No Green Spandex
12/07/17, 08:23 AM
I am just glad the whole team got to shine and not just one person.

Quantum Blue
12/08/17, 12:05 PM
I just didn't like how it was unexplained how the Zords just came back to life. It was a good episode otherwise.

KimandTommy
12/08/17, 05:15 PM
Wild Force was one of the better post MMPR seasons. Although not perfect. I did lime the finally. Except for how Shayla and Merrick didn't get together.